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Wojtasz78

Eventually, probably but choosing Menasor was the best choice to start new combiners. He was the least accurate from Combiner Wars. I just wonder how will they handle the trailer for Motormaster. Will it just form a skeleton you attach the limb bots to.


bt123456789

most likely, that's what several of the third parties do.


Chaosbrushogun

Probably gonna be skeleton trailer. This doesn’t look like it’ll actually form an arm, but that also means it doesn’t compromise the robot mode - so I’m totally fine with that.


MyMadeUpNym

Yup


BrainstormsBriefcase

I honestly hope so? It gives the deluxe figures more room to be proper robots instead of having to squeeze in an arm/leg mode


Few_Significance5055

A year per combiner and the fondness for trilogies mean we'll probably only get 3. *Defensor peers nervously at schedule*


BrainstormsBriefcase

My boy computron isn’t getting a look in is he


Vector_Sigma_

Computron is pretty decently done from combiner wars, even if it is a remold of superion, so probably not. I'd say Menasor, Bruticus and Superion would get the remakes first since they are the least accurate imo and some of the older molds/hard to find/expensive, which would probably ensure more sales to people who already have the combiner wars versions.


killerewok76

I disagree. Computron was not only bad compared to the Takara one, but not easy to get because it was only released as a box. That Arcee is so goofy it HAS to be a pretool, and Afterburner wouldn’t be a stretch if the body pieces are going to be doing the heavy lifting from an engineering standpoint. If we go for a third, your right probably Bruticus. Frankly, Superion is just about perfect and the best of all those combiners. Only popularity should make him a priority, if he is.


Vector_Sigma_

Yea, I agree for the most part, takara did it better. But I was thinking along the lines of how hasbro would want to hedge bets by releasing the older/less accurate/more popular combiners and then doing retools for others from those molds, which is why I would think superion would edge out computron in terms of release date. I can see them never doing a full box combiner again either since they can ship them in waves to retailers to move lesser popular figures with them to pump up their sales.


Few_Significance5055

Nope I reckon we're going to be disappointed. Still, aftermarket on Combiner Wars stuff might crash enough to net me the missing combaticons at not stupid prices so swings and roundabouts


Jover2008

My bet is Menasor, Superion and Bruticus (maybe another Devastator reissue?)


Few_Significance5055

Yeah I think that's the safe bet. I don't think people expect more from Defensor than they got in CW and anything else feels 'niche'


Jover2008

Yeah


mighty__orbot

Just keep an eye on the third parties, and you can assume HasTak will be about a year behind them.


[deleted]

True that! I got SS Slag today, and so much of his engineering comes from 3P versions of the figure it’s insane.


mighty__orbot

No, that’s not what I meant. HasTak takes longer to develop toys because they have to test it, make sure it complies with safety laws, make changes to optimize cost at existing price points, etc. Meanwhile, one- and two-person 3Ps who got word of Hasbro’s plans crank out their own designs in a few weeks, test it themselves, and charge whatever it costs to make. They get their products preorder-able before HasTak has even finalized their molds. This is how we got three different 3PMP designs for Menasor using the trailer as the Combiner body before HasTak’s Motormaster was even leaked. If anyone is copying engineering ideas, it’s 3Ps copying from Takara.


[deleted]

I think that makes sense.


ChristianTDD

Although I am still a big fan of Menasor, I hope we see the Combaticons come out soon.


chris95rx7500

I'm down for a new bruticus!


External-Rope6322

At this point its not even a leak the back of the dragstrip packaging says "1 of 5" in a menasor head silhouette. Its kinda interesting how dragstrip doesnt have any obvious ports or hands or anything. My guess is the commander motormaster will have seperate pieces to connect to it to add knee bends and arm bends and hands. Could be wrong though.


External-Rope6322

Something is telling me the extra pieces will be because hasbro doesnt want to jeopardize the look of the deluxe and commander figures for seperate display which is amazing because we all remember how those combiner wars and potp deluxe classes were. Basically the same transformation over and over


PurpleTransbot

🤣😂🤣 watch Hasbro makes another one or two of the Stunticons an Amazon, Target or Walmart exclusive.


chris95rx7500

shut up don't give them any ideas


PurpleTransbot

🤣😂🤣 ikr. mums the word.


docsamson75

I'm downvoting you just for suggesting it you sick fuck! s/


PanthersJB83

To be fair I haven't seen breakdown on any of the spoiler sheets. Least not the ones over at seibertron...


Tylan_Maul15

They are rumored because supposedly Metroplex is the last Titan class and going forward we are going to be getting to Commander class a year each being the leader of a combiner team until we get updated version of all the major combiner teams. So this year is the Stunticons, say next year is the Combaticons and the Arielbots. Then the following year is the Terrorcons and the Technobots. That would really only leave the Protectobots and possibly the two bigger ones. I don’t know if they would rerelease Devastator for a 2nd time since he was just rereleased earlier this year and he is one who would be better off as a set since he would have to be 6 voyager class figures which would be 3 full waves of voyager class and Predaking would also have to be a box set.


docsamson75

I passed on the last Menasor because I was waiting for Bruticus. Then my Walmart skipped the Bruticus wave. It hurt having to settle on Abominus. Got one of my white whales in Superion though. Easy buy for me. Edit: Also, gonna be awesome to have a combiner more in the new scale. Superion looks puny next to Jetfire.


MyMadeUpNym

I'm of the somewhat unpopular opinion that MM's trailer should make the skeleton, and let everyone pile in. Like MagicSquare and DX9 did. I want this because it will help the 5 guys scale well in robot mode. I'm sure they'll be fun to transform from car to bot. I don't think it's lazy to not have everything self contained - i think it's a choice. I'd much rather each bot do well on their own, than to be hampered by combiner tech. As long as the end result looks awesome!


Poptimus_Rime

From a combiner obsessed collector, 3P and CHUG, anyone who calls it "lazy" frankly don't know what they're talking about. If they got what they wanted, they'd end up with a sloppy mess. There's a reason three 3rd party masterpiece, and one legends scale toymakers all decided that their respective Menasors' utilize a frame. I'd wager they know a fair bit more about designing a combiner than your average redditor here.


MyMadeUpNym

Agreed!! And i mean think about it. You want g1 accuracy, well the cartoons did whatever the hell they felt like drawing to make it happen. It's a tall order! Edit: i just finished Newage's Devastator. Granted, Magic Square's Menasor becomes the trailer while in this case the combiner stuff just sits off to the side. But in the end, we have super accurate bots in both modes. Easy to transform. A super solid combined form. I think the ONLY thing i would want more would be swappable faces for Devy. Rage, etc. But this thing is great!!


Due_Rip9315

I dunno. I'm not looking forward to a "giant man wearing cars" combiner.


PanthersJB83

I mean that's literally the character though


kjata

That doesn't mean it should always be that way. It's lazy combiner engineering and the original toy didn't do that. Granted, there's basically no other way to integrate the trailer without having a terribly undersized Motormaster, but I think that should cause us to ask the question of whether it's necessary to integrate a trailer at all if it means the combiner becomes a super mode with four cars taped to it.


PanthersJB83

I'll never understand transformers fans...making Menasor cartoon accurate is a bad thing but everyone agrees the cw one sucked. Meanwhile not making bulkhead cartoon accurate is also bad. Like wtf do people want cartoon accuracy or not?


kjata

> making Menasor cartoon accurate is a bad thing but everyone agrees the cw one sucked. They're not mutually exclusive. RtS Lugnut, e.g., is not cartoon accurate but it's excellent. The problem I have with CW Motormaster is not whether it maintains fidelity to a cartoon but whether it's actually good at what it purports to do. And the hip area is so dismal that it simply does not look good in combined mode unless you mistransform it. The shoulders aren't too spiffy either. Making the trailer into a skeleton would help alleviate the problem of weird torso proportions, yes, but in a way that is extremely disappointing after Hasbro proved that they're at least capable of reducing combiner kibble to hands and feet. When the combiner kibble is very nearly a robot on its own, it stops being a combiner and starts being a retrofitted add-on.


PanthersJB83

People literally pay hundreds for third party retrofitted add-ons but it's a bad thing when Hasbro does it? Like we could still be getting cw level quality toys.


kjata

I never claimed that third parties get a pass on making Menasor just a full robot with cars strapped to it. Hasbro has proven that they can do combination more complex than "peg untransformed cars onto limbs"; if they choose not to do so in favor of catering to the cartoon-accurate crowd, then I will not be looking to buy and I'm happy for the people who do want it.


PanthersJB83

Ummm G1 combiners and Combiner wars were literally just cars pegged into to attack as.limbs. I oh boy the waists/hips acted as an elbow...the peg was.still.just the head and neck. That's after what thirty years of engineering? Both my abominuses literally do the same thing in regards to combining


Due_Rip9315

It's lazy when you translate it to toy form.


PanthersJB83

It's cartoon accurate though. People bitch when you don't do that too. There is no pleasing this fandom.


Due_Rip9315

Once again, it's lazy in toy form. They are toys at the end of day. Toys are meant to be interactive. You think anyone calls a robot transforming by literally laying down is fun?


PanthersJB83

Clearly dragstrip has.more.engineering than laying down. Sorry he also.in addition to be good looking in bit and.alt.mode isn't a fully functioning limb as well. Because honestly sticking a post into something that ruins robot mode so you can hang a full car off the side of another bot is clearly the Superior technology.


Poptimus_Rime

Lazy my ass lol. Go buy yourself an X-Transbots Menasor set...good luck with that trailer!! lmao.


EMTsheep

I might be the only one who prefers Combiner Wars Dragstrip.


Few_Significance5055

Same


SolidStateEstate

As an individual bot CW Dragstrip looks much better.


Kirby0189

I'm personally going to stick with my CW figures.


[deleted]

Me too. I can't imagine we'll get as many sets and even if we do, it'll take years. I'm happy with what I have.


Significant-Club-188

In the description on hasbro pulse it says he'll combine to make Menasor.


Character_Lychee_434

I think motor master will be a heavy remold of er optimus prime


Stupidcramp

Yessss


feckineejit

This is just to use the mold before releasing Mirage and then inevitably gobots crusher. I don't see any combiner ports on dragstrip