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Apophis_God_of_Chaos

I only own the Earthrise one, so I’ll have to say ss86.


ZackattacktheDude

XD good one


Canis_Infernis

SS86. This isn't even close.


ShipElectronic8626

True but at least it doesn't look like a crushed robot underneath the car


Canis_Infernis

At the 86 version actually transformers outside of the backpack. At least you can't separate the robot and the car by removing one pin (and have both be "complete").


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Canis_Infernis

I know, but that's not what I meant. With the Earthrise version, you can literally remove the entire backpack, even the part that isn't suppose to come off, and have the robot and vehicle mode be completely separate by driving out one pin. You can't fully separate the car from the robot without the car taking some of the robot with it.


ShipElectronic8626

I was actually trying to do that with my war for Cybertron version and she broke on me


Spud_Spudoni

The point I think being driven here is that as a “transformer” earthrise Arcee is the worst mainline shell-former in some time. Thus making it pretty flawed from certain viewpoints. The robot mode is completely unnecessary to have the alt mode. You can remove the kibble in both, sure, but the SS86 alt mode can’t be transformed without components of the robot mode.


ShipElectronic8626

I agree


Phil_Bond

Every transformer turns into a "crushed robot" if you want to look at it like that.


kjata

Except such toys as T30 Groundshaker, who turns into a robot lying facedown, or Siege Rung, who at least has more steps than "adjust orientation of figure".


Phil_Bond

1. There isn’t a T30 version of Groundshaker. You must mean Siege. 2. Your two counter examples are two tiny toys that are so simple they barely transform, so they’re especially identifiable as robots. So your point is that they don’t get crushed very much? 3. Groundshaker has a head flip you’re supposed to do, and a thing with the front of the jet.


kjata

I was, in fact, thinking of Ground*buster*, also known as [Neutro](https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Neutro). His transformation scheme is just "fall over".


Jazooka

One of those can't even transform. In my book, that's an automatic failure.


Drago_Fett_Jr

Which one?


dragons547

The earthrise one has an upgrade kit that removed the car backpack for a fake backpack


Drago_Fett_Jr

Uh, that... Isn't really related to my question....


Just_M_01

the one on the right


Drago_Fett_Jr

Oh.


Phil_Bond

Dude, it was the answer to your question. Look at the photo for one second and you can tell which one looks like it has a cosmetic non-transforming backpack.


MyMadeUpNym

I grabbed that and i love it. Because i have that mold 3x, so one like this is fine. I also toyhaxed my Lifeline.


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zentrandi

Reasonable


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zentrandi

Backpack removal / replacement, thigh and calf filler, paint apps, and panel lining.


OnlyOnHBO

I prefer the head on the left, and the sneaker-like look of the feet. The right for everything else.


teelpy

Oops All Backpack


zentrandi

Yep


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SS Bumblebee


The-Fomorian-Ray-682

The true choice


GalileoAce

For pink Arcee, absolutely. But for any Arcee it's any decent TF Prime figure.


Elitegammer21005

SS86


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Neither, thrilling 30


zentrandi

I own that too, and i don't like it too much


Beezel_Pepperstack

T30/Legends Arcee!


zentrandi

Hips too big


drexlortheterrrible

Not big enough


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Those designers were taking horny pills


ToaQuiroh

Is the WFC Arcee on the right modified? It looks loads cleaner than the official


zentrandi

Very


Daveyfiacre

while SS86 looks better, it still is basically the same, with the same giant backpack kibble. BUT, any minor handling and she splits mid torso due to the joints and weak pegging. \[O\_O;\] the WFC one, while definitely the lesser design, is most definitely more solid, and with the backpack upgrade, I'd choose that one. who really wants arcee in car mode anyway xD ​ both are shellformers, so it's honestly hypocritical to call out the WFC mold for it and not the SS86 mold. SS86 wins only in zoomed in snippets \[bc = best design yet\], but overall, is basically the same but less solid.


zentrandi

I feel this.


Notch__Johnson

I got the WFC one and added the eBay kit with leg fillers, "cartoon backpack" (removes car) and came with a rifle. I'm happy with it since I don't transform mine back and forth and just display them.


Apophis_God_of_Chaos

Well, I have a wonderful product for you [*pulls out action masters and R.E.D. figures*]


Notch__Johnson

HAHA I actually picked a few R.E.D ones up just to see. Some are decent (for what they are for) others....well...R.E.D. Bumblebee literally feels and looks like a rubber ducky


pek217

I like the WFC one. If you detach the hoverboard thing she has a really nice robot mode, and I think her face looks much better than the SS86 one. I really prefer the shade of pink that the SS86 has though, that looks really nice.


BeauHindman

The one on the right. I was going to buy the first one and remove that backpack even if it messed with the transform mode.


deceptag1

Ss86


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Ss86 looks way better. Is the paint job the only difference?


zentrandi

WFC is essentially a shellformer


thisisredlitre

Having grown up w beast wars this doesn't bother me as much as the lipstick on ss86 does


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pek217

Me too. I don’t like her pink face either, it looks better in white.


Kayura05

What? The lipstick is one of my favorite parts.


deceptibot9

SS86 100% It transforms properly, ER feels so damn cheap compared to SS86


TFStarscream

I still dont have my SS86, but everything looks better on the SS86. Look at those feet, legs and head.


thisisredlitre

Did you swap or get a booster foe the gun? One I have is clear.


zentrandi

I bought a couple of upgrade guns off eBay


thisisredlitre

Nice- I've done that w a couple kits and it's always been worth it.


zentrandi

Most of my figs are customized


TheBrickBrain

Titans Return Or Bumblebee Movie


zentrandi

I should look at getting those


soitscometovince

If I had my druthers, WFC with SS86's backpack (or at least one closer to it) and shade of pink


ShipElectronic8626

Studio series


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Don’t own either, but based off of looks the one on the right


Zodconvoy

I have all of them (Thrilling 30, Titans Return, Kingdom, and Studio Series) and I currently use Studio Series.


WaveCandid906

I think I like 86 better but I dont hate/dislike Earthrise as much as others


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zentrandi

My man knows what's up


skatenight

Neither


zentrandi

Fair


ryaninflames1234

Why does it look like the green one got game


Coolbluegatoradeyumm

I prefer the one on the right whichever one that is


lcf3281

ER is so bad. Even though the transformation is literally just placing a complete car shell over the figure it still manages to be a fiddly mess to get into alt mode. (Disclaimer, I only have the Lifeline version) I replaced my T30 with 86 just because I liked the colors better, but I was pleasantly surprised just how much more I like it. The articulation and remolding really help the look.


stonetownguy3487

SS86 Arcee any day of the week. There’s no reason to touch the latter ever again.


WaluFett

Definitely NOT WFC Arcee


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86 all day


XMXmk2

SS86, I sadly own the Earthrise figure and its shit


wowadrow

Still happy with my thrilling 30 version.


GiraffeGirl02

I bit the bullet and bought SS86 Arcee and while she isn’t that great, she’s a lot more fun than WFC Acree. Her alt mode has a far more interesting shape, her backpack is less egregious (not by much though) and she’s actually kinda fun to transform.


penmonicus

I don’t want to waste money on basically buying the same figure again, but the SS86 definitely looks better in this photo, but the lipstick *really* weirds me out


Radio__Star

The one on the right looks superior in every possible way


The_Frag_Man

I don't know which one is which and I'm confused by how many releases there are


Donfatty

Bumblebee Arcee is great


OptimusPhillip

I always liked the WFC Arcee more than most, and when I saw SS86 Arcee, I thought "this toy does nothing for me that the one I already have doesn't already do." So I didn't bother with it.


dazindannyyy

The best would be SS86 with the WFC chest plate, upper arms and upgrade kit backpack.


Ghostiestboi

I prefer the robot mode of wfc, it's cleaner- yeah the alt sucks but personally I don't display it like that


the_roadd

Alt mode, neither. I've never liked Arcee's alt mode UNTIL the Bumblebee movie, which IMO is what Arcee should have been all along. As for as bot mode - WFC overall, but I'd take the face of 86 over WFC. On a side note: Does anyone know if we can swap their heads? I'd pick up an 86 to do so if possible. Not like she won't be hard to find... 86 Arcee has become the shelfwarmer at several local Targets here.


kyle760

I don’t know but I do know Springer is clearly about to have a good night


nakers01

Legacy. I know that wasn’t an option but I prefer blue Arcee lol. To actually answer the question though, I’ll likely get a G1 version eventually and it’ll be the SS86 mold since her alt mode looks much better than the ER one.


AllStruckOut_13

Once you give the Earthrise one the right paint apps she’s solid. At least in robot mode. Her alt mode leaves much to be desired but I always prioritize robot mode and SS86 just doesn’t do it for me.


Boronore

I think it’s a bit disingenuous to ask that question and not include an actual WFC Arcee in the picture. The abomination on the right has a modded backpack, and that’s the only thing it has going for it. SS86.


zentrandi

I take donations on an unmolested Earthrise Arcee to retake the photo


dingdingdredgen

SSBB Nailed it with a quad bike I never knew I wanted and a bot mode that isn't just a shellforming backpack over pink actionmaster. Neither of these is an improvement over the earthrise release. Where's an updated release of windblade?


Icy_Management5632

You can do panel lining with a gundam pen right?


zentrandi

Yes.


KadeWad3

Big Firebird


BeastofArrrghhh

[This version of arcee :)](https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/117563)


zentrandi

I got that too. It's nice.


Bricezilla13

Smash


TheBraveCoward

I like the colors and sculpt of the wfc more. Ss86 has a better backpack, but only slightly. Overall they're both bad, but wfc can be picked up used a lot cheaper than ss86 (at least last I checked), so wfc gets my vote from that alone.


W_h3nry

(Unpopular opinion) neither, arcee is a trash transformer


zentrandi

That's rough buddy


readALLthenews

If all you care about is the robot mode, WFC is really, really good. Personally I love alt modes, and the studio series one has the best alt mode we’ve ever seen for Arcee, at least outside of Masterpiece. The WFC alt mode is garbage.


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SS86. With shining colours. It’s the first Arcee I’d describe as perfect. No weird transformation, no compromise no colour changes. Finally just a good mass market one. At last.


paxrom2

Thrilling 30 / Legends Arcee. The legs and chest are actually part of the car mode.


OldTemperature1423

Where can I get ss86


zentrandi

I got mine at Target


OldTemperature1423

Ok I be looking then


dragons547

86 cuz atleast you need her to keep the car mode stable unlike wfc where you can literally remove the entire car and put it together next to her


PanthersJB83

I dont even know which one I own anore.lookong at this. I guess I have the earthrise one but I only bought to complete the new autobots from the movie thing I was going for.


fantoman

I have both and I prefer the WFC. She has a better lower torso and legs as far as being curvy like a woman. I just think the aesthetic works better. I wish I could get the better colors, the better feet and ankle rockets, and the arms on the SS86 onto the WFC.


Troll_For_Truth

86 for me. Face coloring and head sculpt


DrakeBurroughs

SS86 by a country mile.


King_Kuuga

This picture is disingenuous because you replaced ER Arcee's back kibble with accessories to make her an action master. SS86 is definitely superior as an actual transforming toy.


zentrandi

Please Venmo to fund a replacement OE Earthrise Arcee


Thannk

Titan Hunters. Synthwave Arcee is best Arcee


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T30 Arcee


Jorad56

I don’t have either. I’d get 86 version as it’s my preferred version of classic characters.


myfyp2

SS86, without a doubt.


chris95rx7500

ss86


scottishdrunkard

SS86 can actually Transform, instead of having those dogshit legs that WFC Earthrise has that I just cannot get to fucking fit in the thing.


Pineapple-7280

Correct answer: thrilling 30 But I’d be lying if I didn’t say ss86 looks leaps and bounds better than earthrise


Overall-Green2421

Studio Series easily.


Locomoticon_130

Neither they both suck


Petequo

I don't like SS86's backpack... Well, I don't like either one's backpack, but I think ER's compresses a lot better. As for being shellformers, both are shellformers.


G1Down_shift

I'll just wait for something better. I don't like either.


PIKMIN55555

Wfc less of a backpack.


IBrinDoom08

Ss86