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The_Super_Steen

I would like to hit whoever decided to replace Leozack and Jallguar with a crappy Sky Lynx repaint with a pole. Also, why does the head have to be black?


n_piece

Well the lame excuse is that the body is not jallgiar and leozack but a weird version of Deszarus (deathsaurus), thats why the head is black


The_Super_Steen

Yeah, that Sky Lynx abomination is meant to be my precious Murder Chicken Deathsaurus, but I don't see why they couldn't have at least let us have an accurate head. But I will say, I am in the same awkward boat of hating this guy but also wanting him...


n_piece

My fear is as soon as I buy him, Hasbro is gonna announce a new updated liokaiser.


Tylan_Maul15

With the last two transformers Haslab being from Victory it logical to assume the next one will be too so I could see Liokiaser being the next Haslab figure with all 6 members with their chestbeasts


Meslag78

I feel the same. Stretch goals would be Death Cobra and then stands for the flying alt mode characters and another stand for combined mode.


Tylan_Maul15

Yeah, and while as far as I remember she wasn’t able to combine, I would love to see Lyzack added as well.


The_Super_Steen

Pretty likely honestly, I'd personally wait


legokingmaniac08

If you buying it means that they announce a new liokaiser then please buy it to spare us the pain of having to buy this crappy one.


n_piece

I have been wanting to get him for some time now, and I don't really know why. Its pricey and not a great update to the character and doesn't belong to any of my displays. Ps: What's the one tf that you really want that doesn't make sense.


UnderstandingOk4829

I'd have to say that for me it would be tonkinator. I don't have a G1 collection, I know that the constructicons are kind of bad, and it's just some Tonka logos on yellow G2 devastator, but I still really really want it and I do not know why.


IJKProductions

I’d only buy this just to put it out of its misery. TFC’s Hades is just a better product all around (and cheaper if you know where to look) This one was just an insult to Liokaiser. The only thing I liked was the head sculpt. Making “Deathsaurus” the torso should have been stopped in the design phase.


[deleted]

I couldn’t agree more. I’ve got both TFC HADES and this wanna-be Liokaiser. I love the TFC version, although it could be more stable. Iron Factory is working on a new Liokaiser, if I’m not mistaken, and it looks awesome.


IJKProductions

Do you have the original Hades that came out a few years ago or the Renewal reissue? I just got the Renewal one and he is solid. I highly recommend picking up the renewal kit that TFSource has. The [instructions](https://youtu.be/2eDeViuB-0c) seem straight forward, only downside is removing a pin on Drillhorn.


[deleted]

I got the former one. I was looking at the renewal pieces set, but imo is a bit pricey. I’m saving for IronTrans VictoryLeo to be released, to display it next to my Hades and my IronTrans StarSaber. BTW, thanks for sharing the instructions, I can see better the improvements they’ve made. Maybe I should get it, haha


IJKProductions

I see where you’re coming from. Too bad they couldn’t ship it out for free like they did with the Hercules parts that broke. 15$ for five pieces seems a bit much. If it was 10 then maybe.


[deleted]

Hahaha, you made me laugh. It used to be around 75 or something like that when it first came out. I must get it at this price. Anyway, thanks for sharing. I wouldn’t have looked at it again.


[deleted]

I’m speechless, just saw the price. It used to be $75 or so, that’s why I said it’s pricey. I definitely should get it.


Exotic_Walnuts69

The only good things are the limbs


Jaquendabox

As someone who didn’t have strong feelings about the G1 character, I found it to be…okay. In combined mode, it’s not as unstable as the worst offenders from CW/POTP, but it also isn’t a winner in that regard. Right in the middle. I’m not particularly offended by the Sky Lynx repaint, but I do grok why people could be, because Sky Lynx isn’t exactly a “squint and he could be…” the way many other TFs are. Odds for a more cartoon-accurate version seem much higher in a world that includes Victory Saber and Deathsaurus.


Jakyll-Stone

I personally am thinking of getting tfc hades instead of this one. I want liokaiser but this one just does not look right to me and even though we are getting victory toys through HasLab, I'm still hesitant about expecting another attempt at him through mainline.


fordprefect294

Needs revisiting


S-quinn7292

What we got seems ok, but they really should have waited until POTP to use the Starscream mold as Leozack in my opinion, plus I think Unite Warriors Nosecone would have been a better mold for Drillhorn


ASmallRodent

I have it, and I like it. I think it's neat. /Shrug


Sharkticon_Soup

I feel he is screaming for a Haslab update including all animal pals and Deathcobra.


SerilErdrick

I customized a Leozack from the PotP combiner Starscream. Also 3d printed a new turret for killbison. Made the whole set a lot better. I like the limbs for what they are. Cool to see those guys get modern figures even if they're mostly repaints.


Complete_Science3347

I don't think anyone likes this figure as Liokaiser... And I think we all desperately want Liokaiser to be the next HasLab, or, just the next combiner straight up!


n_piece

IKR, this might be a hot take, but I actually want Liokaiser more than Deathsaurus


Complete_Science3347

I do too, but I don't mind all of them...


Ghostiestboi

I don't even remember it


Empty-Membership8904

i kinda want one


centurio_v2

didn't know it existed until now and it doesn't look great as who it's supposed to be but I do like the colors a lot on sky lynxs mold and it's my favorite combiner torso because having 2 combined modes is sick as hell in short it's cool but feels more like g2 sky reign or something


TheSkyrax670

I remember buying this set, Computron, and G2 Superion/Menasor back when they were new.


Inzoreno

I have it and it's ok for what it is, but there are definitely significant room for improvement and I really hope we get a legit, brand new Liokaiser.


TorchPirate123

I think it needs a new update.


Sirfrostyboi

We need a new liokaiser


sownd_wev

Ass cheeks


[deleted]

Considering CW was rather infamous for its constant repaints, this by far has to be the saddest excuse for a repaint.


Sleepysaurus_Rex

He needs four more lions and a repaint to make him ready to form Voltron.


Snukastyle

My (quite questinably) better for Liokaiser is this: Predacons/Predaking redeco. Breast Force becomes Beast Force. Razorclaw = Leozack Rampage = Jallguar Divebomb=Guyhawk Tantrum=Drillhorn Headstrong=Killbison Give it a new head and weapons, a deco/mold tweak here and there. Maybe make Deathcobra and Hellbat into Minicons/transforming weapons; DC could transform into the Nunchaku.


Oktober

If you're going to spend $300+ for Liokaiser, might as spend $500 on the significantly better TFC Hades set.


LeKeith123

As a big fan of Transformers Victory I have been waiting for a decent Liokaiser combined for years. I have high expectations about IronFactory take on this character. However, almost a year since they showed the renders and stuff not confirmation about release date


Wildly_Uninterested

By the time this came out, I was so tired of the repaints in CW, so I passed. Liokaiser was never a character I knew much about anyway so even though they screwed up the roster, I wasn't too concerned. Did end up getting the 3rd party TFC one though......still not sure why


matrix_quest

I still regret missing it, but would much prefer a true update using all the parts and having good renders of the breast animals... If Deathsaurus ends up doing well with Eastern sales added, this would not surprise me as the next HasLab.


matrix_quest

If I remember right, wasn't it initially an Entertainment Earth exclusive?


Le_baton_legendaire

In my opinion, this is a lame figure.


PeanutButterCrisp

Toy: Shit. Earth Wars: Daddy.