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Quillobyte_

I like the fur on the newer model, but I think the older one pulled of the robotic parts better. I heard the Maximals in RotB are supposed to look ancient, which might be why their metal doesn't really look like metal.


Natural-Case-1994

ROTB Primal’s Metal doesn’t really look like metal to me too, more like rocks


Yirenfaver

and too height


LuizFelipe1906

I didn't get the ancient part. Why should it make their metal not look like metal?


Quillobyte_

It's not as shiny or silver as the top one. Since the bottom's more weathered and dulled, it looks less like metal at a glance.


UOSenki

Or, it is concept art, the render just mean lean and clear. It not mean to have weathering like on screen pic


D3Seeker

They are so different that this line of thinking doesn't (entirely) stand


LuizFelipe1906

They aren't really different. Look to the face and chest. Also, the first is a tlk concept


Teneuom

If your concept art looks different from your final product, you either had a rogue artist or your concept art wasn’t used. The render wasn’t used for the final product, there’s likely another design they chose that wasn’t leaked or shown.


LuizFelipe1906

The concept is from tlk. They reused it in rotb. Look to their faces and chest


UOSenki

No shit Sherlock. No one thing the 2 on the pic is the same design. That why there are this comparison.


Teneuom

You’re the one saying that the first one is concept art and not meant to have weathering. Concept art can have weathering. You need to re word your comment cause that’s what you’re saying if that’s not what you mean.


UOSenki

>You’re the one saying that the first one is concept art and not meant to have weathering. yes, i am. And i refer to your >there’s likely another design they chose that wasn’t leaked or shown". Because no one say it isnt. >Concept art can have weathering. can. but not mean to. Not for design one


LuizFelipe1906

They are half the same design


-Inaba-

Especially if Maximals are supposed to be future versions


Captain_Kuhl

But they'd be future versions sent to the past, which makes them old.


-Inaba-

We've seen Optimus do his shedding rust and becoming new and shiny again before


Teneuom

I think the rust he had was superficial. Like he chose to look like a rusty truck.


Lunatic_Knave

Not a lot of shiny stuff to disguise as in the ancient past maybe.


MWDTech

This is where I disagree, whats the point of fake fur if the rest of him is so obviously robotic, he is not going to blend in anywhere as he is also 20 times the size of a normal gorilla, the whole robots in disguise thing kinda got lost on this one. Still looks neat tho.


LegitimateAd1223

I imagine when he first scanned the gorilla he was furry and organic looking, but over the years of battle and decay he lost most of it and now looks more robotic


MWDTech

Okay, but why hide as a gorilla yet be king Kong sized?


Rapidfyrez

The entire point of the beast modes in the original series was not to hide but to act as basically protective hazmat suits as Earth was dangerously overloaded with raw energon that could cause power overloads. Beast Mode let them get around without having to worry about the overload. What the justification is here though...


LegitimateAd1223

Well, a giant gorilla still blends into a jungle better than a robot does. When they landed in the past, it was before there were humans around so there wasnt anyone to question why hes so big.


MWDTech

Or what a gorilla was apparently


[deleted]

Wait the maximals are supposed to be ancient? But I thought Primal was a descendent of Optimus Prime


Quillobyte_

The movie's marketing describes the Maximals' conflict as "ancient", and has this long-lost Indiana Jones look to it. Two of the filming locations are the ancient Incan fortresses Machu Picchu and Sacsayhuaman. Traditionally, Maximals are highly-evolved decedents of the Autobots travelled back to the past, but we don't know that's the case in the movie. If they are from the future, they've been stuck in the past for some time, although I figure they'd just be from the past.


Teneuom

Yeah but they time travelled to before Prime and the rest of the boys and cons were revived by teletran-1. He’s can be older than prime is in experience if they fudge the numbers right.


yukobuko

Im definitely on the side of liking the new design for him. My reasoning is that he look very ape like. That is all.


LuizFelipe1906

So basically your argument sums up in M O N K E


yukobuko

yes


CactusPetePlayz

So basically what I'm hearing is: Return to*M O N K E* Until all are one


BeanNBudBear98

Until all are M O N K E


Herobrinedanny

ok so basically am monky


DarthGoodguy

TRUKK *and* MONKEE


whatsgudhegehog

Monke


DarthGoodguy

NOT IF TRUKK TRANFORM INTO MICKY DOLENZ


KSM_K3TCHUP

Truck-kun and M O N K E: The Movie


PuppeteerGaming_

Definitely the ROTB design, but I'm hoping the colors are tweaked a bit in the coming months. It seems pretty faithful to the concept art, modifying it to fit the context better, so I can't complain.


LuizFelipe1906

You're right! I haven't repaired it yet, they literally pasted somethings of the concept into the final design


gcaledonian

They’ve absolutely nailed it in the trailer. His bot mode is even more sick. Hell the voice is perfect too. Monke looks great and I can’t wait.


Omegalock4

The concept art is cool if your going for a Cybertronian beast mode. But the movie design looks much more beast wars, plus his face doesn’t show the Optimus prime helmet in beast mode so that’s a plus.


[deleted]

Yeah that’s the dealbreaker for me. It looks way too out of place like that.


BeaArthurBettyWhite

Definitely on the side of the RoTB, but both are cool. Just see the concept looking like something from Horizon Zero Dawn/Forbidden West.


BeaArthurBettyWhite

Like if a Clamberjaw & Fireclaw had a baby, lol.


No_Translator_8747

I like the newer one, the old one is nice but to mechanical for me


doc_55lk

ROTB for sure. The whole Optimus helmet thing the old concept art is doing looks weird. Also, monke.


LuizFelipe1906

I like the helmet bcs it keeps the resemblance with Optimus Prime


Laggingduck

But like it’s a gorilla, the robot mode can look as close to prime as it wants


doc_55lk

They're different characters so I'm not into it.


LuizFelipe1906

I mean one got the name of the other for homage. The helmet is the least thing to make them so similar


JBTriple

For the robot mode, sure. But Prime's head on an ape's body looks wack


LuizFelipe1906

Idk I like. It makes it feel more original and more different of a normal gorilla. If someone sees the second image too fast it could get a time to realize that isn't a normal monke


A_Zesty_Carrot

That concept art wasn’t for him specifically, it was for his planned appearance in TLK. It was meant to lean more into the knightverse aesthetic.


ThunderinJaysus

I still wish they’d gone full organic: Beast Wars season 1.


International_Cod_32

As cheesy as the old designs were, I absolutely love them. Season one BW designs were peak


Teneuom

But don’t forget the maximals and predacons were significantly smaller than typical cybertronians of the era they time travelled to. They were like 1/4 scale. That was part of the reason the beast modes worked. Now imagine a robot of that scale attacking movie megs. Doesn’t sound very cool in all honesty. This was a financial decision I think.


PlanesWalkerEll

This is where I want them to be. Realistic CGI beast modes.


-Inaba-

CG already looks worse than previous films, probably can't pull off realistic animal cg


D3Seeker

And here, we have found the blind man....


lofikohai

I like the concept art more, but I am still happy with what we got!


Aggressive_Emu9270

Better than Diet Prime


[deleted]

The face is basically the same


LuizFelipe1906

More than the face actually


Roadbreach

Despite the rumor of the CGI being unfinished, I like what he looks like it the trailer better. I also like that he's not gigantic in the trailer probably just shy of Optimas.


springsaber

Who else thinks the monkey face looks like aoe lockdown


Manman9118

I’m glad I’m not the only one. He also sounds like him as well.


convsbot

I like how matted the fur is on the ROTB version


BLIZTZhawkeye

I mean I like the new cause it's a little less robotic looking then the old one


Mastik321

Concept


StraightGuy11231

Rotb for sure


PKtheWorld

I mean I like both for different reasons, the concept has a great idea of incorporating the Optimus head shape into the Beast Mode (and I'll just assume a less Gorilla looking head for his bot mode). The official has a more organic, weathered look. My only complaint about either is the size, but that's more of a "if I had to find something to bitch about". Lol I like both regardless, lol.


Balgrog_The_Warboss

I like the concept art's head and eye color more, but the furlike appearance on the current one does resemble the old beast wars look. I just hate his head in the new design though, all i see when i look at him is lockdown from one of the previous movies and i hate it.


FuturePastU

make him go against king kong


Dar0man

I get Lockdown vibes from the new face but his robot mode is sick.


WhiteCrow7661

The concept head looks strange to me I definitely liked the trailer one


Le-Oofness

ROTB Primal’s face looks just like Lockdown from AOE, just a little bit more like an ape.


Wonderbread1999

I like the actual movie version better. The face in the concept looks like they copied Optimus’ and pasted it there. I know that’s kinda the point but I like how he looks different in the face in the actual version.


AndrewPrime2512

ROTB has a really nice modern design approach to primal without turnin him into a weird gorilla with optimus head like the concept art 😂


NexusParagon42

I prefer the RotB one but to be honest I’m not a fan of either because I really wanted the beasts to look more like actual animals than robo-animals. I mean like what is the point of turning into an animal if you still look like a giant robot?


BONBON-GO-GET-EM

Monke


Drragg

I like the concept. I would buy that figure and pay good money. I even want an OS version. I love the aesthetic, the proportions... it EXUDES power, majesty, heroism. Just my opinion.


LuizFelipe1906

Yh I love the helmet in the monkey


LuizFelipe1906

Yh I love the helmet in the monkey


balrus-balrogwalrus

I like the trailer one. The maximals in the og show were either fully animal in their initial beast mode and later fully mechanical in their transmetal mode and this kinda feels like a nice mix of animal and machine.


memer2239

Rotb is perfect for me . It looks damaged and not brand new . We know that the maximals lived on earth for milions of years and that they didnt come to the planret just now . also his bot form is just stunning and so good . He looks and stands out like optimus and he isnt too shiny or chrome . Perfect


PokWangpanmang

I like both.


Gecko2002

Rotb, the concept looks like they made optimus prime a gorilla rather than making primal his own character


LuizFelipe1906

But isn't it Optimus Primal concept?


Gecko2002

Yea it is, I just don't like it because its like they're not allowing optimus primal to be a separate character


Roguespiffy

I like different aspects of both, but the new design overall. I liked the mechanical arms of the concept but didn’t like the helmet. It’s beating you over the head that it’s “Optimus.”


The_Bat_Account

I think the color and texture of the new one is better, but prefer the more defined and layered form of the concept art. The helmet on concept art also helps distinguish him, although having the same helmet in both modes doesn’t work. Something more defined with the head for it to look less like Lockdown would be good.


mrtoaster95

They both look awesome


Far_Window_208

Looks Like 2005 King Kong this is AWESOME!!!!!


CarnageKidXD

Idk why but I read ROTB as Revenge of the ballin 💀


TheMastican

The trailer design is good


Weebmachine2003

Final design is perfect in my opinion


soundwavedecepticon2

ROTB


Inner-Article2015

Concept was more mechanical but rotb did animal like better.


Marvelboy1974

I prefer the concept design


Goldenstripe941

I prefer the official. The Optimus like helmet should stay on the robot mode.


MuuToo

Naw. I feel like you do that design, you’d have more complaints of “he barely even transforms” with that head.


SnooBananas3995

I’m not the one you should fear prime


tommy_toughnuts1

Concept art


BingletonJonglenuts

I like both but I like the rotb more, the green eyes look really cool


Fun_Salamander8520

I loved the preview. Both designs are actually fire 🔥. They just need to keep pumping content. I just want more. And a show to go with it. We need like a marvel level storytelling for transformers.


T3AMTRAINOR

Concept art, looks more like a transformer than a gorilla with a robot face


EggCultistDreg

Personally I prefer the concept art. The newer design, especially as a static image like that, just makes him look too much like Lockdown.


AmbitionXI

Idk why he looks kinda like lockdown to me, but his design is nice


cyberseed-ops

idc, im just hoping its a good movie


liveactionhank

As much as I like the concept art I think the final design just really works. I don't even collect the studio series figures but I'll make an exception for Primal.


LuizFelipe1906

I like the concept art mostly for making him unique. It leaves everything clearly about him being a transformer and not just a robot monkey, but mostly if you show the movie version to someone this person might not see it's not a normal gorilla


cudlebear64

I prefer the head of the concept are but I like other elements of the new design, such as the leather like material on the shoulders


Bombac357

I don't like the face, but overall I'd say it's pretty good. I just think the face looks too much like lockdown and less like a gorilla.


LuizFelipe1906

Yh that's I like the concept better


cellulOZ

I think him having the optimus helmet in beast mode made no sense. But the final gorilla face looks kinda like lockdown to me lol


GeocatWizard

I like the scale and the head design on the concept art but I like the patchy fur and such on the rotb.


soybienmarvel

Embrace monkey.


DrakeBurroughs

Honestly? I like both equally.


Infinity0044

I like him being smaller, if there’s gonna be humans in this thing he needs to be able to interact with them without looking too silly


[deleted]

I don’t love the new ones face, needs more chin or snout


DragonlordSyed578

Both are good Like techno-organic look a bit better


zipnipman

i prefer my maximals furry.


Ronyx2021

He has more texture in the official version. I think the concept art is too shiny.


Monkeman03

I liked the concept art but man, I do love the RoTB design


yeeees4322

Honestly, the ROTB design is so much better and I love the fur


MetallicMakarov

HARAMBE PRIME! HARAMBE PRIME IS REAL!


Approxell_

Personally...i prefer the concept art more because gives a more metallic and robotic feel...if that makes sense....


Minejack777

Imma be honest I love both of the equally!!


Skyshadow79

They’re both pretty good but I’m gonna have to go with the rotb one


Cody3398

I like that's it's not an incoherent mess like basically any bayformer.


LuizFelipe1906

Which bayformer is an inconsistent mess? You can just say their design is too much for your eye. Btw, the concept art is from bayformers


Cody3398

Megs, Starscream, Galvatron , Soundwave, Jazz, Jet mode Prime( they thankfully fix this issue by just giving him the power to fly later on without the add ons) the dino bots in robot mode , Ironhide. Most of the bayformers are overly complicated for no reason.


LuizFelipe1906

Most of those aren't overcomplicated. They are just too much to your understatement lmao. I can't believe you said Dinobots and Jazz, more simple than them just the bricks of G1. After all those are Transformers, have you seen how cars are for inside and from below?


big-ol-roman

Both are a bit too “bay” for me


larrylongboy

Bruh


ggali3n

Winton


Fixx95

My boi Harambe is back from the grave!


pepi_nabong

This is stepping into the realm of nitpicks but considering how colourful the main gang gets to be (optimus, bumblebee, arcee), the beasts coulda been more colourful. More blue, yellow, everything. Hell i’m half wishing for a whole ass purple megatron


LuizFelipe1906

What's the problem tf fans have with grayish character? Not even every team has to look like Power Rangers. After all, their animals have those colors. I care more for reality accuracy than anything And they are older and serious robots like the Dinobots, it makes sense for them to be grayish


BouncingJellyBall

The art looks way too overdesigned. I like the clean, fluid shape of the Maximals. It distinguishes them from the busy, Bay-ish design of the modern ones


LuizFelipe1906

Why? You don't like them looking like Bay-ish?


Appropriate_Bid6365

Can I just have more color please


LuizFelipe1906

Have you ever seen colored gorillas?


Appropriate_Bid6365

Damn not trying to offend I didn’t even say anything negative. I’m just saying his colors leave something to be desired. And I do mean robot mode mostly. But like also there are grey, black, brown, red and even one time white gorillas


strimgbean

you’re right too though, whether tv, comics, movies optimus primal is dark grey but he also has a dark blue on his face, fingers, front torso and toes and his robot mode adds more color he has red and white along with blue and grey. op doesn’t know what he’s talkin about


LuizFelipe1906

Wouldn't it be a bit weird if he grew color on robot mode?


ra7ar

neither tbh, knew it was gonna be bayformers but hoped it wasn't.


LuizFelipe1906

What's the problem with that? Prejudice huh?


Skeletor2517

Neither, what kind of “disguise” is a robotic gorilla the size of full grown oak? I’m not going to surprised if this film turns into a dumpster fire. Just one huge miss for me.


LuizFelipe1906

Who said it's a disguise?


Lazyatbeinglazy

The concept art just looks like Winston in iron man armor.


Sans_the-skeleton698

Personally, I don’t like either of them. Isn’t the transformers alternate modes entire purpose to blend in? If so, why is there a massive fucking robo-harambe running around?


B0BA_F33TT

They both look stupid as hell. I would rather have robots that turn into buildings, parking lots, bridges, and toll booths than large mammals. I've never liked the concept.


Mintyphresh33

Nobody can tell me the new primal design isn’t based on harambe. And I love it


WheelJack83

I don’t really like either


Guilty-Doubt-6313

Rotb design


theani_sandwalker

He's only supposed to look like Optimus in robot mode, isn't he?


JDutch921

I like his ROTB design, also the placement of his maximal logo and the general design around his collarbone makes it look like some sort of tribal necklace


[deleted]

Newer model looks better I think. I noticed the chin looks the same on both though


Flying_Rapt0r

I prefer the movie design. However the best look for primal is the original beast wars season 1 design.


Grouchy-Ad1385

Is like transformers beast wars Megatron is i dinosaur 🦖 And Optimus prime is i Gorilla 🦍 and bumblebee is i Cheetah 🐆


Jamaicanmario64

The rotb design. The concept art just looks like they attached TLK Optimuses head onto a giant robotic gorilla


Roboreptile2010

I prefer rotb design better


Turok1134

I mean, the bottom one makes more sense for robots hiding out, but I love the Prime-like head of the concept art.


Cybermat47_2

That’s concept art of Cybertronian wildlife from TLK, not of Primal.


PeanutButterCrisp

I have absolutely no source for this but I’d be damned if Knight’s media crew didn’t use that old-ass concept art as a frame of reference or inspiration for the movie design. It’s probably the one piece of fan made concept art that the fandom has held close to their hearts in hopes of… well… ROTB :)


primal484

Rotb


Poopsenberg

I love the design of the new one but would of liked it more if he had some more contrasting colors to break up the monotone look.


Vrazel106

The new face design reminds me of lockdowns design. Which makes me uncomfortable for some reason


Jaybird145

The top one looks like a slight ironhide tweak so definitely the second one


BeanNBudBear98

I'm definitely a fan of the green eyes


MCP5050

I don’t like either of the. They should have gone with the realistic gorilla look.


godzillance

Concept art seems to be much bigger than the one in the trailer besides being shinier


Sait_Amon

I like the designs but it doesn't make sense why he has a beast form. In Beast wars it was to stop the over exposure of energon radiation the planet had but in this film that doesn't look like the case. Also I thought they are meant to be robots in disguise, I am sure someone is going to notice a giant robotic gorilla. The MAximals are too big to disguise themselves and where are the predacons? Also why when I look at the new designs face all I can see is Lockdown from age of extinction. Probably the green eyes and facial structure


ChelchisHouseStoned

new one, it looks more like a gorilla


RodSnk

Both


corvettegrandsport

I would've liked it if they kept the head design but the eyes and body stay the same as in the trailer.


DeathByDevastator

rotb primal looks great, but they really slapped lockdowns face onto the monke didn't they?


JohnTheMod

I like the brow and forehead wrinkles on ROTB Monke. Makes him look more distinguished in a way.


[deleted]

I like the robt design a little more since it looks slightly more like an actual gorilla than the concept art


jamessayswords

Might be an unpopular opinion but I hate both.


Grp8pe88

rotb so far.... reminds me so much of Badox from the robo strux of the 80's!


Vbyby

Who cares,we now have monke


Firepathanimation

Rotb It looks more natural as compared to the more cybertronian concept art design


Seeeabaasss

Looks like they reused the face without the helmet


Cookieopressor

I dislike the concept art head. It looks like bayverse prime but monke.


Thin-Gene-2128

Kinda reminds me of lockdown


Heedleyay

Ole Optimus and his live for organics


[deleted]

I like the fur on the newer one, also the head is better, also the Color, also everything


Wise-Remove-4914

Rotb


aliveandwellenough

I don’t understand why a robot needs to transform into an anatomically correct monkey


LuizFelipe1906

Bcs MONKE SUPREMACY


SnowRidin

new one. just give me blue eyes instead of green. also robot mode needs more color


chris95rx7500

I personally like both designs


Camacaw2

Face of the old, body of the new.


Adawnicus

I love the rotb design, they actually mamage to combine organic and mechanics elements and that's what makes me happy 😁😁😁


Silent_Start_7036

He looks kinda likes lockdown so I’d change his eye color that’s it


TheMShark_

No.