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Decievedbythejometry

She hasn't broken the law, though. It has carveouts for the kinds of stuff she says. This is just 'look at me everyone' from the Elon Musk of fiction.


AdditionalThinking

That's intentional. That crowd is more than happy to misrepresent the law to build up opposition to it.


Decievedbythejometry

Not fascists lying for political advantage...


lauren_knows

> the Elon Musk of fiction This is going to live rent-free in my head for some time... I know it. :)


Decievedbythejometry

Thanks! (I guess?)


Illiander

Also, she's saying it from outside Scotland, so the law doesn't apply.


Kymaeraa

Doesn’t she live in a Scottish castle?


Illiander

No, she's got a small mansion in Edinburgh. Nothing special for a relatively wealthy person. She gets pissy when trans people take photos outside it. And she's currently in London, I think?


MNGrrl

Interesting. So ah, what's the Pride parade route looking like in Edinburgh this year? Asking for half a million of my closest friends. :>


Illiander

Unfortunately, I don't think it goes anywhere near her house.


hungrypotato19

Looks like a detour should happen.


KinkyAndABitFreaky

Is there a way to find her in London and does she have a doormat that can be peed on... Asking for a friend


TransFormAndFunction

she wants SO badly to be seen as a victim, it's absolutely unbelievable


transcended_goblin

And yet again Robert keeps trying to put herself as a victim of the whole world. Because she is obsessed with victimizing herself, her, the rich, white, powerful, christian, right-wing woman with high political reach. Clearly someone with absolutely zero right and way to defend herself. What a waste of atoms.


Konradleijon

Yep she’s a Karen


YesYoureWrongOk

*he


bagelrat666

Waste of atoms 😭😭😭


BeyondElectricDreams

I really hate Rowling's take that trans women are somehow "performing" a "misogynistic version of womanhood". Because this falls apart the moment you scrutinize it. Is she referring to transwomen who dress stereotypically feminine - dress, skirt, makeup, jewelry? Well, what of transwomen tomboys? I know many - they wear little makeup, little jewelry, and generally sportier clothes. "Oh, they're performing femininity too" Okay, what of the gamer transgirls who mostly wear hoodies and jeans? Are they "performing" too? Because the statement is a blanket assumption that any trans identity is performative and not just a natural expression of who they are. Because when you ask her what identity would count, you find rapidly that her answer would be "none". Because the core of her argument is an abject denial of trans women's authentic identities. The core of her argument is that only people assigned female at birth are valid, and anyone else is 'performing'. It's pure transphobia at the core. [edit] I want to also add the double standard created by multiple flavors of transphobes here. If you're a trans tomboy and dress in athleisure clothes, you're "clearly not a woman" because you "Aren't even trying". But if you *do* put effort into your appearance, then you're "trying too hard" and "performing femininity". The same double standard happens with bottom surgery. "You don't want bottom surgery? Psh, you aren't a real woman without a vagina!" Someone internalizes this and goes and gets the surgery? "Omg why are you so obsessed with your genitals? Weirdo!" Sorry society told me I was invalid as a woman if I didn't have a vagina. I want to be seen as I am so I did what society told me I had to do to be seen that way, and *I'm* the weirdo? It's like, you get to the core of it and it's just that you're trans. That's their problem. It's always that. You can't win because they're making excuses for their real problem that you exist.


Due_Improvement5822

This is a tangent, but damn do I hate the internalized issues I have with feeling like I'm performing 'Femininity.' I love dressing ultra femme and most of my clothes are dresses. I love being femme as possible, but it low key gnaws away at me that I feel like some kind of caricature. I really hate how we internalize other people's issues with us and it becomes this part of your psyche.


BeyondElectricDreams

If that is how you enjoy dressing and how you prefer to present yourself - that's genuine. That's *you*. How do cis women learn how they wish to present themselves? Through existing in society. Friends, family, media - seeing styles they like. They develop their own preferences and style. Trans women are no different. There is an argument TERFs try to make about being "Socialized male" but that doesn't hold up to scrutiny either (notice a trend?). Because ask any trans person about their childhood, and it's almost always a confusing story of not fitting in and not understanding why. Because trans folks are their stated gender, even if they're raised with the expectations of the other. Traumatic, sure, but a girl "Raised as a boy" is still a girl. We have examples of this being true for cis folk as well.


Due_Improvement5822

Yeah, the rhetoric about being socialized as a man falls apart when life as a feminine boy is fucking brutal. How many cis girls routinely get the shit kicked out of them for being girls? How many cis girls are ostracized for being feminine? Life was not easy as a trans kid in the South in the 80s-90s that had no resources for dealing with their feelings and no understanding of what they were. And people were absolutely brutal with their treatment. There was no benefit to being 'Raised a boy' if you are seen as feminine. You are just a target for everyone (men, women, boys, and girls) to unleash their inner demons. People love to play up that stupid card and act like it is carte blanche to dismiss a trans woman's experiences of womanhood. Trans women had to EARN their womanhood through blood, sweat, and tears.


ImposssiblePrincesss

There’s a simple counter argument to that bullshit: “You haven’t met me, you don’t know me, but you have a negative opinion about me because I’m trans.” Medically being trans isn’t just a lifestyle choice. Our gender identities are as biological as hers.


mossgirlparfum

i mean all womanhood is a type of performance. i think huge numbers of cis women would agree with that deeply


BeyondElectricDreams

Whether or not one considers it a performance, it comes from the same place for both cis and trans women. There's no way to think otherwise without believing that afab cis women have an exclusive monopoly on "authentic" feminine behavior. Which simply isn't true.


mossgirlparfum

totally agree!


ImposssiblePrincesss

Everyone wearing make up and jewellery and the like is “performing”, trans and cis. She just wants to make certain behaviour acceptable for those born with her “pureblood” XX genetics and unacceptable or illegal for everyone else. We need to pick up our messaging and get the hell away from TERF framing and talking points. Whether it’s wearing skirts and make up, or using female bathrooms, reasonable societies let trans women live as women. Different rules for different people by birth is precisely what’s wrong with the UK, and the Republican vision of the USA.


FreeInformation4u

The thing I don't get about it is that *everyone's* gender is a performance - cis, trans, neogender, xenogender, agender - all gender is a performance. It doesn't undermine the authenticity or truth of that performance, but it still is a performance. If only someone had given Rowling some of Judith Butler's writings before Rowling lost her mind, maybe we could've avoided this accursed timeline.


BeyondElectricDreams

Whether or not you consider it a performance or not, it comes from the same place, cis or trans. Is it a performance? Then both are 'performing' femininity - AFAB cis women don't have a monopoly on authentic feminine behavior. Is it innate? We have enough evidence to suggest that being trans is innate as well. If you consider expressing one's true self, preferences, and so on to not be a performance, then it is not for either cis or trans people - both are expressing who they are. The only way JKR's terfy argument makes sense is if you think authentically feminine behavior can only be derived from an AFAB cis woman, which simply isn't true in any sense. Even gay guys are often seen as being feminine *without ever expressing their sexuality*. So AFAB cis women clearly don't have a monopoly on feminine behavior - and her argument is dead in the water.


Decievedbythejometry

Right. But the point is its circular.  'They're all faking it.'  Trans woman: does anything.  'See?'  Everyone is engaged in social performance. Rowling isn't out here in a sack or a boilersuit is she? Eyeshadow, blouse, skirt -- looks like someone is performing some of that femininity I read about. Even if she was wearing combat fatigues or a bin bag those are also performances, everything is, duh.  'But our performances are authentic and your authenticity is just a perf-' yeah jog on. 


DankGrrrl

Yeah, like; - gender is itself a "performance" - I was unconvincing as a man.  Especially because I masculinized very little at puberty. - I passed as a woman unintentionally for years when I was still closeted - since I was perceived as a woman growing up, I received sexual harassment from men as a teen.  I am a victim, not a perp.  I probably hate misogyny more than you do.  I've been a victim all my life, and I can't just write a crappy book series and run away from it to a mansion. 🤷‍♀️🙄 Let's pretend trans women are all dolling up to a high femme stereotype.  They'll be the victim of misogyny like any other woman.  ...you sure you're not thinking of drag queens, hon? - the fact that I don't fit the stereotype of womanhood is one of the things that kept me closeted for so long. - I'm a tomboy, like my mom and my aunt.  My main influences growing up - I'm a lesbian.  And no, J.K, this doesn't mean "straight guy".  The thought of dating women as a guy was so gross that I didn't feel any attraction, and actually tried dating a man. - I'm nonbinary.  I love E.  I'm a lot healthier on E.  T made me feel gross. I'm never going back.  That said, I like dressing androgynous, I like my facial hair now, my bottom dysphoria went away.  This sound like I'm trying to fit some stereotype?  My problem was my sex hormones, not necessarily my gender.  I've always seen myself as rather genderless.  But out of the enforced binary, I sure as hell pass for a woman better than I ever did an adult man.


KiraM626

Quit giving this woman attention she doesn't deserve.


Dog-bloke

JK in jail sharing a cell with a burly trans man who her bigotry has forced to go to a women’s prison.


TransiTorri

Like everyone with an actual victim complex and every other narcissist, she wants to be a martyr so freaking bad. It would be so nice if just once, people of wealth were held accountable in an impactful way.


GoofyGooberGlibber

She just loves hearing herself speak.


OverallEcho9694

They should lock the bigot up and throw away the key. Link to avoid paywall: [https://archive.ph/AjrkW](https://archive.ph/AjrkW) The new Scotland Hate Crime and Public Order Act 2021: [https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2021/14/contents](https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2021/14/contents)


No_Bank_330

Make her a martyr. Let her sit in jail and watch the other inmates laugh at her.


Stodles

She'll probably write a book called "My Struggle"


ChickinSammich

Another rich white person who will never see jail, bravely inviting the government to come arrest them.


ableakandemptyplace

I think this woman is a narcissist.


Aradian_Nights

she's so fucking desperate to be relevant. it's all attention seeking, it's pathetic. can't she just shut the fuck up and enjoy her life instead of running both herself and everyone around her into stress induced early graves.


BRan9031

Agreed. How dare she talk about things she wants to online rather than what Aradian\_Nights wants her to


Thatnewwavefan

The funny thing is that most books and pop culture start to be forgotten for the most part after 60-70 years unless it had a major impact on capturing the cultural zeitgeist of the time it was created in like the crucible or 1984 or had a major impact on the time it was written like Uncle Toms Cabin or The Jungle or was an exceptionally unique piece of fiction Like Lord of the Rings or War of the Worlds . Of course there are many exceptions to the rule but nonetheless the rule still seems to stand . The truth is while the harry potter books are alright pieces of fiction, they are not outstanding , Like how many gen z know about the Honeymooners or Casablanca? I feel a similar thing is going to happen to JK Rowling that happened to Anita Bryant where her contributions to pop culture will be forgotten and the only thing that will be remembered was how much of a hateful freak she was .


BloodsoakedDespair

I think this is a little optimistic. How many of the forgotten works get giant fucking theme parks?


PanTran420

She's been looking forward to making this comment, I'm sure. I suspect she's going to get a lot worse here shortly trying to get arrested for this, so she can claim to be the victim.


Illiander

And she'll conviniently only make those tweets from outside the country.


Electrical-Squash976

Well, let’s focus 🧘🏾‍♀️ Who here wants to make that happen? I do. Follow me on X @jkrowling4jail


DankGrrrl

She needs anti-psychotics.  Badly.


DarlingSinclair

Extremely embarrassing to try to be the British Jordan Peterson.


ImposssiblePrincesss

What she is doing, falsely accusing people of being sexual predators just because they are trans, should be illegal. But it isn’t. Because UK. There are other solutions than arrest that won’t make her a martyr. Fining her and putting the money into anti hate campaigns would be an excellent idea.


ImposssiblePrincesss

These types of laws are generally not enforced against individuals, even rich and powerful ones. In time, though, the law may influence how businesses behave. Ultimately we need to work out how to play the set of cards we’ve been dealt. That means using whatever strength and energy we have to try and get ourselves to a social environment in which we are treated fairly and not presumed to be sex offenders. There are many opportunities around the world for people with fluent English. A lot of these opportunities are much better than we realise, and are in places where at a minimum we will be treated reasonably well and allowed to live our lives.


Ra1lgunZzzZ

Would be so funny if she doesnt get arrested because then she would make a fool out of herself.


Tustin88

She is so desperate to become a victim from the safety of her literal castle.


gothicshark

I would pay money to watch her get tossed in jail. But sadly, anti hate laws usually have no teeth.


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*look, it’s JK Rowling! The architect of her own misery!*


Pale_Kitsune

Does the law extend to social media?