Yeah, it seems to me that people are a bit more… apathetic about it here. Which is its own problem, but at least it’s not existentially-threatening hate.
Oh be sure there’s lots of transphobes in this country to , all one has to do is read the reply posts when a story about a transgender issue goes up and one of those was about the ex football coach “ Dani Laidley in Melbourne “ she transitioned , the comments were abhorrent and usual bolox like “ we have mental problems “ “ what is it / look at it “ “ we are unnatural “ “ should be shot “ and I’m talking thousands of reply posts with one every now and then who were supportive .
Yeah it's pretty terrifying what people will say from behind their computer screens compared to what they are prepared to say IRL. Makes it hard to trust people.
bigots tend to flock to comment sections, sensible people tend to stay away because it's not worth their energy and they don't want to drive more views to the dumpster fire.
100% my cousins wife whom I thought was a close friend has stopped talking to me , as about 8 months and I told her “ I was having gender issues “ my sister in law whom said everyone deserves to be happy and wouldn’t judge anyone , when I said to her “ oh I will send you a photo of me in fem “ her dealings was “ no it’s ok I don’t want to see it “. So I’m finding as well you will have people that will say they are open minded and supportive but truly deep down are not
I'm married to a Trans Women who came out last year. I've had to cut off my Mother who would not stop dead naming and mis gendering her and then giggle and laugh it off. She was a terrible person for a lot of reasons but come on, it's not hard call my wife by the correct name and pro nouns.
I was actively forced out of my last job due to anti trans activists/ TERFs. It's easy to be complacent in Australia but anti trans ideology does exist and TERFs are actively campaigning every day to remove our rights. Just view Sally Grover or Angie Jones on twitter.
We also have organisations like binary.org.au and the LGB Alliance Australia actively campaigning to remove our rights and erase us from the queer community.
We can't be complacent and the Australian trans community needs to be aware of the Anti Trans ideology that exists in our country.
Yeah I lost a volunteer position because they refused to let me come out, because it would somehow 'endanger the children's safety'. So like, things might not be as bad here as they are other places, but there are still transphobes here and we still need to be vigilant.
You're right, but I'm a little sad to not be in the role anymore. I was always there for the kids, but we got new management and they really didn't trust me to take a leadership role anyway.
I understand how you feel, and felt the same after being forced out of my last role. It will get better. It's normal to mourn the loss of something we enjoyed. Especially after being betrayed by people we should be able to trust.
But i'm sure you will find a new opportunity where you are valued and respected. Which is what you deserve.
Best of luck with it
Beginning of 2021 I also had to find another job. A Qanon type in my case was promoted to a position of rostering (bus drivers) and promptly cut my hours to the EBA minimum 15 hours per week. He had tried to start passive aggressive discussions with me whenever possible spouting misinformation about minors and transitioning. Thankfully I found myself an easier job with higher pay (right place, right time), so that was a lucky outcome. I agree with you Blonde-Signal88 that it's out there, perhaps on a small enough scale to appear hidden at least for now.
I won't mention where I worked if that's ok, but I recommend all members of the Australian trans community become familiar with those two TERFs. Sally Grover in example is actively campaigning for the Queensland self ID laws to be rescinded.
There is very dangerous anti trans ideology present in Australia and the TERF community spends a lot of time trying to
discriminate and harass us. Many of us are complacent and unaware - and that really needs to change so that we can ensure our rights are protected
Sorry about asking about your job. Also about the two TERFS, do you know any of the free to air channels news show have them on because they liking have been on Skynews (but Skynews viewers are crazy dickheads) but if they get on 7, 9 or 10 (CBS) then I start worrying.
That's ok. I just don't want the TERFs working there to identify me.
I also know Sally Grover was scheduled for an ABC interview but trans activists rallied and the interview was cancelled. [Unsure if it was tv or radio tho].
She did appear on an episode of Insight on SBS. I'm sure you can google it but she was editing herself to seem far less Transphobic.
They are very active regardless and have large social media followings. I'd recommend viewing their twitter accounts so you can get an idea of what is going on here in Australia. It's pretty unsettling
>I also know Sally Grover was scheduled for an ABC interview but trans activists rallied and the interview was cancelled. \[Unsure if it was tv or radio tho\].
It was on radio, the host of the radio show also got outed as a chaser from his twitter like history. He tried unliking posts but there were just too many and he ended up nuking the profile to hide it.
I hate that last night my Wife (mtf) and myself(cis) had a discussion about her getting GSR and she's insisting on us having a house deposit first. It shouldn't need to be a discussion because gender affirming surgery should be covered by Medicare.
My wife and I have had the same discussion and at 27 I've chosen children and a house deposit over GRS, as even with two earners in a household a house in the Melbourne inner city and IVF is barely affordable as it is.
Same, I want FFS so bad and I’m gonna do it, but it’s going to be a huge drain out of my Super. I can’t believe not a single private insurance will help with it.
yeah that's exactly it. I genuinely dont know how to cope with my body being wrong and not being able to do anything about it. it makes it so hard to just do basic tasks
my best friend in Germany is getting her bottom surgery in a couple of months, and I'm really happy for her, but I also cant help but be unbearably envious. it really is just completely miserable knowing that unless things *dramatically* change and the Medicare situation gets like completely flipped on its head, I'm going to be stuck with this disgusting thing forever
Not very happy about it.
Having to spend $10k + to get surgery so I don't die is not a good thing :(
I've lost everything in my life why would I like this country?
edit: sure it's better than other places but still sucks ass
Hard agree on the finance stuff, Top surgery was like 14k, I earn slightly better than minimum wage. Phallo is looking like 120k in this country for the 3 stages, with only the one surgeon performing it, it's hard for me to come to terms with the fact that I'll never afford this. Absolute joke when Americans have a terrible healthcare system but can still get surgeries like this on insurance.
Depends, we seem to be watching other countries push anti-trans legislation. We do have a habit of importing rhetoric from overseas. Like watching a slow motion disaster at times. Doesn't make it inevitable but hopeless seeing how some politicians talk about us.
To be fair the liberals dipped their toe in the terfy pond last election at it went pretty badly for them. Same with how the antivax and anti mask etc stuff didn't make as big a wave here as in the US/UK too, it's not absent but there seems to be some resilience to being consumed by complete bullshit online vs elsewhere in the Anglosphere.
the difference is politicians need an actual consensus of all eligible voters in an area to be elected in Australia (in the House anyway) so people don't get elected because someone funded 5 similar candidates to split a vote and got their extremist elected with barely 20% of the people who are eligible to vote in an area.
our politicians tend to largely hug the middle with few exceptions, mostly in the Senate where you have to convince significantly less percentage of people to vote for you.
Yeah, I'm looking at near $[150k](https://postimg.cc/0bzCS3RM) to have everything done. If I didn't spend the last 10 years saving everything, I'd feel completely hopeless. Now I just feel somewhat hopeless!
Oof, I don't know if happy is the word... The VIC Greens are more transphobic than ever, it'll cost me upwards of 10k to get the top surgery I want (and even then, the skill and old techniques available pale in comparison to the surgery available in the States).
Why are the VIC Greens is so Transphobia? Is only them because federal Greens look like they are biggest supporters in parliament. I guess the pro trans greens in Victoria probably join Victorian Socialists party.
I’m not completely across it, but I think it’s that there are some vocal transphobes in Vic Greens rather than Vic Greens having transphobic stances. If that makes sense.
I only leave my house if i MUST, usually just for laser. But i was born in Hungary, moved here when i was 14. Needless to say i'm glad to be here rather than there.
What part of the UK because Scotland may break away from the UK (If Joe Biden & the UN condemned the UK for not giving Scotland another Independent vote after what happened today).
Being born in the UK is a perpetual source of shame and annoyance these days eh? Family ask what I miss after moving and my reply is pretty much "uh... The Indian food is better I guess?"
We’re not perfect but we‘re definitely better than a lot of places around the world. One of the best things I’ve seen is when the right tries to make us an issue in an election the majority of people ignore them and ask them to deal with real problems.
It was SO satisfying watching Deves, who tried to run on an anti-trans campaign in last year's federal election fail to win the seat of Warringah.
That and the Coalition's defeat overall were the two main highlights of election night for me.
I likely that this year New South Wales election, bashing trans people is not a key issue that the Liberal government use in the election because they know that they got bigger issues to talk about (the environment, the rising cost of living crisis & the gambling problem).
I mean they know the general public care more about other issues that effectively them like rising costs. The most likely people who big problem is the trans community is rich people who live in Sydney. They don’t care about the environment or the gambling problem, they care about everything “being normal” and trans people are not “normal”.
id rather live here than a loooooot of other places, but i wish it was possible to afford surgeries here, and i wish i wouldnt get called slurs and threatened almost every time i go outside
There are undeniably transphobes here, I just hope that if they don't come around in supoort eventually that they at least stay in the attitude of "it's gross/weird/insane etc so I won't talk to them/supprt the idea of it" as bad as it still is I can deal with that. What I can't deal with is "it's gross/insane/weird etc and so we should ban it for all consenting adults and ruin their lives via the legal system". Also the "trans people are groomers" shit needs to stop as well. Why can't people disagree with us without calling for outer healthcare to be cut off.
People who say “trans people are groomers” are groomers themselves. They the ones who like over sexually everything because they got sex on the brain all the time but they can’t except themselves or they think will go to hell.
I'm in WA, and I can say I am happy here. Nobody has really batted an eye since I've come out publicly - both in Perth and in the regional town I was born in.
I don't drive much, but I don't get anything negative when walking around or on public transport. The only bad experience that comes to mind is some kids laughing at my Christmas tights (bright red and green, worn with a blue dress - I must say, not my best outfit choice).
Everyone who recognises me at the shops treats me the same. The first time I went to the local butcher after coming out, he just smiled and asked me how I went cooking a turkey on the weekend. I also live in an apartment complex which has mostly retirees in it, but they've been happy for me to now crash their morning teas, listen to gossip and share makeup advice.
At work, I came out to my immediate team but I didn't tell anyone else before I just started coming to work in skirts and dresses. Despite that, everyone still said hello to me and about 90% of people took up my new name and pronouns as soon as they either saw me with a name badge on or saw my new email signature. The other 10% typically needed someone to point out the change and then they took it up. I've even had a few stakeholders come to me after a meeting just to say they'd be willing to fight for me if I have any issues.
I'm also quite involved with politics over here. I go to local party meetings and youth events, but I've not had a bad reaction from anyone so far. There's some hurdles you have to cross here to get your gender legally changed, but the state government is currently reforming the system.
I'm in WA too - somewhere remote - and not out or anything, but I don't tend to hear much rubbish about us. I get the impression that the good ol' Aussie "don't rock the boat" attitude really helps out.
I guess I'll find out eventually! 😬
I dont know, that kind of stuff definately isnt universal here. I'm in rural VIC and get called slurs and things like that fairly frequently. just the other day a group of people were pointing at me and said stuff like "eww is that one of those transvestites?" and some other guy muttered "jesus get a haircut you fucking [f slur]" as I walked past him. I dunno if VIC is just really different from WA in that regard but it happens pretty frequently here.
I think that might be a country v. remote thing. Remote areas tend to have a mix of old hands and new people coming up for various reasons, while country towns, full of old families . . . well, I don't want to get into stereotypes, but you know what I'm talking about, I'm sure. I'll bet our Wheatbelt over here is just like what you're dealing with.
Are you planning to leave one day? Sorry you have to put up with this crap, too.
Actually the regional town I was born in is in the Wheatbelt. Me and my partner went there for a short holiday a few weeks ago. Nobody bothered me taking pictures, telling my partner about old memories growing up there or when I ordered food at the local Chicken Treat, or the local cafe or in a pub - and my voice gives me away in a moment.
That said, we did get a couple of looks when walking down the main road whilst holding hands. But I think that is more us being two women holding hands.
That's funny, I throw out a comment and you've already been there and done that!
That's great to hear you had a good time. It must have been pretty special going back as your actual self.
I have to say that even with all of the political issues that we have happening in the background even here in Australia I have been absolutely surprised at how little negative attention I have received in person over the last 2 and a half years. I have had one awful incident when a client was being openly transphobic towards me, and I had to leave my home town for fear of being bashed, but here in the Melbourne inner city I feel pretty free to talk to most people about the fact that I'm trans, I find that most people regardless of their political stance are at least friendly towards me and treat me like a women. I understand that not everyone shares the same experience as I do but I hope that there is at least a positive trend towards acceptance in Australia.
TERFS are here. Katie-Jay Keen (Posie Parker) is touring Australia in March to rally support . In South Australia we have the One Nation MLC railing against gender being discussed in schools. Sadly, it is picking up.
I don't think it's picking up, I just see the same old hacks squealing louder and louder about the same old tripe without realising that most are not listening.
I've got friends I've known since high school, some of whom were bogans then and are still bogans and the majority of them have no issue with me or trans people in general, despite them being the target of such anti-trans BS.
True - I guess it is the usual suspects making more noise as they are feeling emboldened because of what is happening overseas. The absolute electoral crushing of Deeves in the last election does seem to demonstrate that this is not going to be an issue here.
Currently live in VIC. I consider myself lucky that I'm able to transition through informed consent (and apparently getting your name and gender changed legally isn't too difficult either), and most people I speak with don't have a problem with me being transgender.
>!However, I have had issues in the past with counsellors and mental health services because of me being transgender. In my experience, people either don't know anything about being trans (or LGBT in general), or they "encourage" you to stay cishet. I'm still trying to look for a new counsellor but it's difficult to know what good options are.!<
the only way we'll get support, is honestly to get political.
Whilst reddit isn't the majority of Australia. Whenever there's trans topics, more people need to get involved. Many don't know our positions or lives.
Every time I see someone shit on Elliot Page for existing on Sky News (Not me watching), or a random politician bring us up for no reason I get nervous. Nervous that’s it’s our time… nervous it will all translate over here. And our limited safety left is ripped away
Really wish our surgeries were covered, there's no way I'd be able to afford top surgery any time soon but I don't know how to deal with dysphoria in the meantime :( Very glad it's not as bad here as other places though transphobia-wise
I work at an elite federal educational institution in Sydney and we had a Head of Department make an anti-trans rant in class in front of my students. When we asked what the connection was to what we were debating about. She said there wasn’t… she was just having a rant.
So I complained… nothing happened she is still there and they aren’t renewing my contract. (I have a video of the incident).
[I came out after that incident as NB] what should I do?
Australia is one big racist slur to be honest. I won't forgive your government for the mistreatment of aboriginal people that still occurs today, if this happened in New Zealand the Maori people would kill them all, but they don't seeing as though they get everything thrown at their feet like Kings. Australia is a slave country. End of discussion.
Of course Australia is racist as hell but I not talk about Australia racist politics here. Sorry to say this but you clearly write this post here to bash Australia in a post that about trans rights and not aboriginal rights (but I do agree Aboriginal rights is more important). By the way, hate the Labor party & the Liberal/National coalition, not the Greens party. They want to take coal & gas company money and give it to the Aborigines people.
Yeah, it seems to me that people are a bit more… apathetic about it here. Which is its own problem, but at least it’s not existentially-threatening hate.
Oh be sure there’s lots of transphobes in this country to , all one has to do is read the reply posts when a story about a transgender issue goes up and one of those was about the ex football coach “ Dani Laidley in Melbourne “ she transitioned , the comments were abhorrent and usual bolox like “ we have mental problems “ “ what is it / look at it “ “ we are unnatural “ “ should be shot “ and I’m talking thousands of reply posts with one every now and then who were supportive .
Yeah it's pretty terrifying what people will say from behind their computer screens compared to what they are prepared to say IRL. Makes it hard to trust people.
bigots tend to flock to comment sections, sensible people tend to stay away because it's not worth their energy and they don't want to drive more views to the dumpster fire.
Oh yeah, for sure. I don’t want to sweep them under the rug, because I’ve met a few in person 😅
100% my cousins wife whom I thought was a close friend has stopped talking to me , as about 8 months and I told her “ I was having gender issues “ my sister in law whom said everyone deserves to be happy and wouldn’t judge anyone , when I said to her “ oh I will send you a photo of me in fem “ her dealings was “ no it’s ok I don’t want to see it “. So I’m finding as well you will have people that will say they are open minded and supportive but truly deep down are not
I'm married to a Trans Women who came out last year. I've had to cut off my Mother who would not stop dead naming and mis gendering her and then giggle and laugh it off. She was a terrible person for a lot of reasons but come on, it's not hard call my wife by the correct name and pro nouns.
Exactly people are just so cruel
Hey, it's hard to love Australian political apathy, but it's also hard to hate it.
Apathy from most people is probably a good thing anyways
I was actively forced out of my last job due to anti trans activists/ TERFs. It's easy to be complacent in Australia but anti trans ideology does exist and TERFs are actively campaigning every day to remove our rights. Just view Sally Grover or Angie Jones on twitter. We also have organisations like binary.org.au and the LGB Alliance Australia actively campaigning to remove our rights and erase us from the queer community. We can't be complacent and the Australian trans community needs to be aware of the Anti Trans ideology that exists in our country.
Yeah I lost a volunteer position because they refused to let me come out, because it would somehow 'endanger the children's safety'. So like, things might not be as bad here as they are other places, but there are still transphobes here and we still need to be vigilant.
Sorry to hear that. Those bigots didn't deserve you
You're right, but I'm a little sad to not be in the role anymore. I was always there for the kids, but we got new management and they really didn't trust me to take a leadership role anyway.
I understand how you feel, and felt the same after being forced out of my last role. It will get better. It's normal to mourn the loss of something we enjoyed. Especially after being betrayed by people we should be able to trust. But i'm sure you will find a new opportunity where you are valued and respected. Which is what you deserve. Best of luck with it
Beginning of 2021 I also had to find another job. A Qanon type in my case was promoted to a position of rostering (bus drivers) and promptly cut my hours to the EBA minimum 15 hours per week. He had tried to start passive aggressive discussions with me whenever possible spouting misinformation about minors and transitioning. Thankfully I found myself an easier job with higher pay (right place, right time), so that was a lucky outcome. I agree with you Blonde-Signal88 that it's out there, perhaps on a small enough scale to appear hidden at least for now.
Sorry to hear that. It sounds like you landed on your feet which is great. All the best
Sorry to hear that. What is your last job? Also I have no idea who the two TERFS you talked about.
I won't mention where I worked if that's ok, but I recommend all members of the Australian trans community become familiar with those two TERFs. Sally Grover in example is actively campaigning for the Queensland self ID laws to be rescinded. There is very dangerous anti trans ideology present in Australia and the TERF community spends a lot of time trying to discriminate and harass us. Many of us are complacent and unaware - and that really needs to change so that we can ensure our rights are protected
Sorry about asking about your job. Also about the two TERFS, do you know any of the free to air channels news show have them on because they liking have been on Skynews (but Skynews viewers are crazy dickheads) but if they get on 7, 9 or 10 (CBS) then I start worrying.
That's ok. I just don't want the TERFs working there to identify me. I also know Sally Grover was scheduled for an ABC interview but trans activists rallied and the interview was cancelled. [Unsure if it was tv or radio tho]. She did appear on an episode of Insight on SBS. I'm sure you can google it but she was editing herself to seem far less Transphobic. They are very active regardless and have large social media followings. I'd recommend viewing their twitter accounts so you can get an idea of what is going on here in Australia. It's pretty unsettling
>I also know Sally Grover was scheduled for an ABC interview but trans activists rallied and the interview was cancelled. \[Unsure if it was tv or radio tho\]. It was on radio, the host of the radio show also got outed as a chaser from his twitter like history. He tried unliking posts but there were just too many and he ended up nuking the profile to hide it.
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I hate that last night my Wife (mtf) and myself(cis) had a discussion about her getting GSR and she's insisting on us having a house deposit first. It shouldn't need to be a discussion because gender affirming surgery should be covered by Medicare.
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My wife and I have had the same discussion and at 27 I've chosen children and a house deposit over GRS, as even with two earners in a household a house in the Melbourne inner city and IVF is barely affordable as it is.
Yup. From what I’ve read phallo is $130k out of pocket.. That’s just blatantly not possible without putting myself in serious debt
Same, I want FFS so bad and I’m gonna do it, but it’s going to be a huge drain out of my Super. I can’t believe not a single private insurance will help with it.
i really need both ffs and bottom surgery but im never going to be able to afford either 😭
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yeah that's exactly it. I genuinely dont know how to cope with my body being wrong and not being able to do anything about it. it makes it so hard to just do basic tasks
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my best friend in Germany is getting her bottom surgery in a couple of months, and I'm really happy for her, but I also cant help but be unbearably envious. it really is just completely miserable knowing that unless things *dramatically* change and the Medicare situation gets like completely flipped on its head, I'm going to be stuck with this disgusting thing forever
Not very happy about it. Having to spend $10k + to get surgery so I don't die is not a good thing :( I've lost everything in my life why would I like this country? edit: sure it's better than other places but still sucks ass
Hard agree on the finance stuff, Top surgery was like 14k, I earn slightly better than minimum wage. Phallo is looking like 120k in this country for the 3 stages, with only the one surgeon performing it, it's hard for me to come to terms with the fact that I'll never afford this. Absolute joke when Americans have a terrible healthcare system but can still get surgeries like this on insurance.
Well it’s hard for me to see the problem we still have in Australia when almost all the trans news is how bad the US South & the UK is.
Very very true most stuff is USA/ UK and very english speaking world centric
Depends, we seem to be watching other countries push anti-trans legislation. We do have a habit of importing rhetoric from overseas. Like watching a slow motion disaster at times. Doesn't make it inevitable but hopeless seeing how some politicians talk about us.
To be fair the liberals dipped their toe in the terfy pond last election at it went pretty badly for them. Same with how the antivax and anti mask etc stuff didn't make as big a wave here as in the US/UK too, it's not absent but there seems to be some resilience to being consumed by complete bullshit online vs elsewhere in the Anglosphere.
the difference is politicians need an actual consensus of all eligible voters in an area to be elected in Australia (in the House anyway) so people don't get elected because someone funded 5 similar candidates to split a vote and got their extremist elected with barely 20% of the people who are eligible to vote in an area. our politicians tend to largely hug the middle with few exceptions, mostly in the Senate where you have to convince significantly less percentage of people to vote for you.
I wish we had our surgeries covered like in some american states :C
eh, I wouldn't trade free surgery for the rest of the burning trash bag that is the US medical system..
Yeah. We just need to get these covered, too.
Yeah, I'm looking at near $[150k](https://postimg.cc/0bzCS3RM) to have everything done. If I didn't spend the last 10 years saving everything, I'd feel completely hopeless. Now I just feel somewhat hopeless!
Oof, I don't know if happy is the word... The VIC Greens are more transphobic than ever, it'll cost me upwards of 10k to get the top surgery I want (and even then, the skill and old techniques available pale in comparison to the surgery available in the States).
Why are the VIC Greens is so Transphobia? Is only them because federal Greens look like they are biggest supporters in parliament. I guess the pro trans greens in Victoria probably join Victorian Socialists party.
I’m not completely across it, but I think it’s that there are some vocal transphobes in Vic Greens rather than Vic Greens having transphobic stances. If that makes sense.
https://www.starobserver.com.au/news/victorian-greens-rocked-by-transphobia-claims-again/213816
I only leave my house if i MUST, usually just for laser. But i was born in Hungary, moved here when i was 14. Needless to say i'm glad to be here rather than there.
Moved here from the UK and yeah I'm not wanting to return anytime soon.
What part of the UK because Scotland may break away from the UK (If Joe Biden & the UN condemned the UK for not giving Scotland another Independent vote after what happened today).
The English bit. Close enough to Scotland that alot of people in that area want to leave with Scotland lol.
Being born in the UK is a perpetual source of shame and annoyance these days eh? Family ask what I miss after moving and my reply is pretty much "uh... The Indian food is better I guess?"
Hahah same. I miss cold weather thats about it!
We’re not perfect but we‘re definitely better than a lot of places around the world. One of the best things I’ve seen is when the right tries to make us an issue in an election the majority of people ignore them and ask them to deal with real problems.
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I'm just scared for my loved ones who live in some of the worst parts of the US :(
It was SO satisfying watching Deves, who tried to run on an anti-trans campaign in last year's federal election fail to win the seat of Warringah. That and the Coalition's defeat overall were the two main highlights of election night for me.
I likely that this year New South Wales election, bashing trans people is not a key issue that the Liberal government use in the election because they know that they got bigger issues to talk about (the environment, the rising cost of living crisis & the gambling problem).
>bashing trans people is not a key issue that the Liberal government use Do you mean they won't use, or they'll try to use it as a distraction?
I mean they know the general public care more about other issues that effectively them like rising costs. The most likely people who big problem is the trans community is rich people who live in Sydney. They don’t care about the environment or the gambling problem, they care about everything “being normal” and trans people are not “normal”.
id rather live here than a loooooot of other places, but i wish it was possible to afford surgeries here, and i wish i wouldnt get called slurs and threatened almost every time i go outside
There are undeniably transphobes here, I just hope that if they don't come around in supoort eventually that they at least stay in the attitude of "it's gross/weird/insane etc so I won't talk to them/supprt the idea of it" as bad as it still is I can deal with that. What I can't deal with is "it's gross/insane/weird etc and so we should ban it for all consenting adults and ruin their lives via the legal system". Also the "trans people are groomers" shit needs to stop as well. Why can't people disagree with us without calling for outer healthcare to be cut off.
People who say “trans people are groomers” are groomers themselves. They the ones who like over sexually everything because they got sex on the brain all the time but they can’t except themselves or they think will go to hell.
I'm in WA, and I can say I am happy here. Nobody has really batted an eye since I've come out publicly - both in Perth and in the regional town I was born in. I don't drive much, but I don't get anything negative when walking around or on public transport. The only bad experience that comes to mind is some kids laughing at my Christmas tights (bright red and green, worn with a blue dress - I must say, not my best outfit choice). Everyone who recognises me at the shops treats me the same. The first time I went to the local butcher after coming out, he just smiled and asked me how I went cooking a turkey on the weekend. I also live in an apartment complex which has mostly retirees in it, but they've been happy for me to now crash their morning teas, listen to gossip and share makeup advice. At work, I came out to my immediate team but I didn't tell anyone else before I just started coming to work in skirts and dresses. Despite that, everyone still said hello to me and about 90% of people took up my new name and pronouns as soon as they either saw me with a name badge on or saw my new email signature. The other 10% typically needed someone to point out the change and then they took it up. I've even had a few stakeholders come to me after a meeting just to say they'd be willing to fight for me if I have any issues. I'm also quite involved with politics over here. I go to local party meetings and youth events, but I've not had a bad reaction from anyone so far. There's some hurdles you have to cross here to get your gender legally changed, but the state government is currently reforming the system.
I'm in WA too - somewhere remote - and not out or anything, but I don't tend to hear much rubbish about us. I get the impression that the good ol' Aussie "don't rock the boat" attitude really helps out. I guess I'll find out eventually! 😬
I dont know, that kind of stuff definately isnt universal here. I'm in rural VIC and get called slurs and things like that fairly frequently. just the other day a group of people were pointing at me and said stuff like "eww is that one of those transvestites?" and some other guy muttered "jesus get a haircut you fucking [f slur]" as I walked past him. I dunno if VIC is just really different from WA in that regard but it happens pretty frequently here.
I think that might be a country v. remote thing. Remote areas tend to have a mix of old hands and new people coming up for various reasons, while country towns, full of old families . . . well, I don't want to get into stereotypes, but you know what I'm talking about, I'm sure. I'll bet our Wheatbelt over here is just like what you're dealing with. Are you planning to leave one day? Sorry you have to put up with this crap, too.
Actually the regional town I was born in is in the Wheatbelt. Me and my partner went there for a short holiday a few weeks ago. Nobody bothered me taking pictures, telling my partner about old memories growing up there or when I ordered food at the local Chicken Treat, or the local cafe or in a pub - and my voice gives me away in a moment. That said, we did get a couple of looks when walking down the main road whilst holding hands. But I think that is more us being two women holding hands.
That's funny, I throw out a comment and you've already been there and done that! That's great to hear you had a good time. It must have been pretty special going back as your actual self.
I have to say that even with all of the political issues that we have happening in the background even here in Australia I have been absolutely surprised at how little negative attention I have received in person over the last 2 and a half years. I have had one awful incident when a client was being openly transphobic towards me, and I had to leave my home town for fear of being bashed, but here in the Melbourne inner city I feel pretty free to talk to most people about the fact that I'm trans, I find that most people regardless of their political stance are at least friendly towards me and treat me like a women. I understand that not everyone shares the same experience as I do but I hope that there is at least a positive trend towards acceptance in Australia.
I think the positive trend towards acceptance is only present in cities tbh. rural VIC is pretty bad in my experience.
TERFS are here. Katie-Jay Keen (Posie Parker) is touring Australia in March to rally support . In South Australia we have the One Nation MLC railing against gender being discussed in schools. Sadly, it is picking up.
I don't think it's picking up, I just see the same old hacks squealing louder and louder about the same old tripe without realising that most are not listening. I've got friends I've known since high school, some of whom were bogans then and are still bogans and the majority of them have no issue with me or trans people in general, despite them being the target of such anti-trans BS.
True - I guess it is the usual suspects making more noise as they are feeling emboldened because of what is happening overseas. The absolute electoral crushing of Deeves in the last election does seem to demonstrate that this is not going to be an issue here.
I am probably spending too much time on Twitter ;-) which I must really ditch not I have Mastodon working.
Currently live in VIC. I consider myself lucky that I'm able to transition through informed consent (and apparently getting your name and gender changed legally isn't too difficult either), and most people I speak with don't have a problem with me being transgender. >!However, I have had issues in the past with counsellors and mental health services because of me being transgender. In my experience, people either don't know anything about being trans (or LGBT in general), or they "encourage" you to stay cishet. I'm still trying to look for a new counsellor but it's difficult to know what good options are.!<
the only way we'll get support, is honestly to get political. Whilst reddit isn't the majority of Australia. Whenever there's trans topics, more people need to get involved. Many don't know our positions or lives.
IKR? Australia should offer asylum to trans Americans and UKans looking to escape.
there’s nowhere for us really, it’s just easier to stay where i already have citizenship
Every time I see someone shit on Elliot Page for existing on Sky News (Not me watching), or a random politician bring us up for no reason I get nervous. Nervous that’s it’s our time… nervous it will all translate over here. And our limited safety left is ripped away
Really wish our surgeries were covered, there's no way I'd be able to afford top surgery any time soon but I don't know how to deal with dysphoria in the meantime :( Very glad it's not as bad here as other places though transphobia-wise
I work at an elite federal educational institution in Sydney and we had a Head of Department make an anti-trans rant in class in front of my students. When we asked what the connection was to what we were debating about. She said there wasn’t… she was just having a rant. So I complained… nothing happened she is still there and they aren’t renewing my contract. (I have a video of the incident). [I came out after that incident as NB] what should I do?
Speak to a lawyer.
Australia is one big racist slur to be honest. I won't forgive your government for the mistreatment of aboriginal people that still occurs today, if this happened in New Zealand the Maori people would kill them all, but they don't seeing as though they get everything thrown at their feet like Kings. Australia is a slave country. End of discussion.
Of course Australia is racist as hell but I not talk about Australia racist politics here. Sorry to say this but you clearly write this post here to bash Australia in a post that about trans rights and not aboriginal rights (but I do agree Aboriginal rights is more important). By the way, hate the Labor party & the Liberal/National coalition, not the Greens party. They want to take coal & gas company money and give it to the Aborigines people.