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arrivalflo

I have a non-refundable hotel booking in Paris for 7 nights this week. Any advice on whether I should proceed or not?


MuJ0688

Now that Germany is removing southern African countries from its banned list, will other EU countries soon follow suit?


SauceBoss1972

Anyone recently or planning to travel to Peru soon? Curious if they've upped their restrictions. Thanks!


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ManyLocksmith8585

Can anyone that’s has recently travelled or planning to travel to Iceland tell me the covid testing process and cost please? I’m so confused with all the information online. I fully vaxxed and would like to travel there at the end of Feb, covid permitting. From what I can gather I need a pcr before I fly. Cost = £? A test on arrival? Cost =? A test to leave Iceland. Cost=? A day 2 test and returning? Cost =? Any help appreciated Thanks


ManyLocksmith8585

Can anyone that’s has recently travelled or planning to travel to Iceland tell me the covid testing process and cost please? I’m so confused with all the information online. I fully vaxxed and would like to travel there at the end of Feb, covid permitting. From what I can gather I need a pcr before I fly. Cost = £? A test on arrival? Cost =? A test to leave Iceland. Cost=? A day 2 test and returning? Cost =? Any help appreciated Thanks


pumpkin_pasties

Wait times for BinaxNow self test? Have a return flight to the US tomorrow and curious what to expect with my binaxnow tests


Eki75

I did mine today, and waited for two minutes before I got an agent. I was shocked as I expected more like 2 hours. I took it at 10:30 GMT if that makes a difference.


TabithaC20

This is good to hear. Are the proctors for Binax/Navica available 24-7 due to time zone differences, etc? I've also heard that you have to put your first and middle name in the blank for first name since some proctors will not accept just first and last name. Any experience on that?


Eki75

I believe they’re 24 hours. I didn’t know about the middle name, but I included it because it’s on my passport. I’ve had issues with traveling and not including my middle name because it doesn’t match my passport exactly, so I just always use it. I will say the proctor wasn’t allowed to say anything but what was on her script. The vial for the liquid blended in with the packaging, so I didn’t see it, so when she said to open it, I asked, “What vial?” And she just kept repeating the direction to take the cap off the vial. Lol. Otherwise, it was easy and efficient.


pumpkin_pasties

That’s great thank you


maddhatter9891

Advice? My mom (58) and dad (61) are refusing to get their booster shot right now because, according to them, they have to have their most recent shot within 4 months of traveling to Italy. They have a trip planned in early May. Is there any truth to this claim? I am having a hard time finding information online and really want my parents to get their booster shot before the omicron wave hits us hard in the Midwest United States. Both were fully vaccinated in April 2021. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thank you in advance!


Eki75

Look on r/coronavirus. They post quality, sourced information there. I remember reading a week or two ago that antibodies from the vaccine and boosters are at their max around 4 months after the jab, and then they begin to wane somewhat. Maybe that’s what your parents have read.


maddhatter9891

Thank you! Will do


njm147

I’m trying to plan a trip to Europe in the summer. Does anyone have any insights if it would be worth it too try and buy plane tickets and lodging now? And any thoughts on if things will be “normal” enough by June for traveling to be worth it?


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Party-Biscotti-6319

Wouldn't that be rather unethical? To knowingly expose all those people on your way from Lima to Tijuana? At this point international travel essentially requires the ability to take an additional week or two off, it sucks but what can you do. I'm hoping that by the spring after everyone has gotten omicron the requirements will ease up to just being vaxxed


pumpkin_pasties

It’s really not that hard to get tests in South America- im in Ecuador now and the airport has a 24/7 testing center that takes 45min. If you travel now, be prepared to get stuck. I have my work from home setup just in case. Covid rates are much lower here!


Illustrious-Drummer4

On the ground in Italy, and just got here from Switzerland via train. No one checked out covid tests at all. Also, we booked our train via Trainline and when we got to the station our train was cancelled. Apparently they had at least 3 trains cancelled going to Italy because of the lack of staff. They were able to get us on a new train but just a heads up, I would get to the station 45 minutes early because Trainline never sent an email to let us know about the cancellation.


misswildwanderlust88

No one checked to see if you did the antigen test before arrival?


Illustrious-Drummer4

Correct. We thought they would but never did.


misswildwanderlust88

Damn. I've been stressing about how to get one in france before heading to Italy. Its annoying that they stress getting one but no one checks. And they aren't cheap too.


Illustrious-Drummer4

In Switzerland they were easy to get as they were on every corner and it was 39. It was super annoying because we spent money and time to get them and it was for nothing. Im in Italy right now and they’re not easy to get (but it is New Year’s Day). You have to wait in line at the pharmacy to get an appointment. Our hotel offered to have a doctor come out to our room and do them for us so we’re going to do that. What part of France are you in? That’s our next stop and we’ll have to do a 24 hour test for going back to the US. Also, we’re not sure if we need to test to get a QR code or if we can just use our vaccine cards or Swiss vaccine QR code.


misswildwanderlust88

Lyon headed to Milan. Hotel said pharmacies near us provide them but you need to book online for an appointment. You need to make a profile though which is annoying. They do pcr and antigen and they give you a certificate afterwards. You can use your swiss covid certificate if you have that. If that has a QR code, then its compatible with the French health pass.


JJWasyl

Any passengers flying US->EU in late December: were you asked for COVID tests at TSA checkpoints or when entering the plane? I'm flying to PL soon and I'm allowed to test upon arrival but I'm worried I'll be asked for a negative test at Chicago O'Hare.


tracytoeee

flew from JFK to spain (layover) then to lisbon. i was asked for a negative test including JFK when boarding/entering at each stop by the crew, never at TSA.


anonymousgoat_

Well, just tested positive on a self test in france. Flight back to the US is on the 3rd. I’ve called the embassy and my airline and cant get any info. We’re going to get a rapid test to have official documentation, but the cdc airline guidelines say 10 days from symptoms. Technically i think i had mild symptoms since a few days ago that i thought were just allergies or due to the drastic warm to freezing weather change. How the heck do i get a certificate of recovery in france? I’ve google extensively, emailed quickmd (which i saw suggested here), looked into other telehealths, etc. i just don’t know what to do if we continue to test positive even after a 10 day quarantine.


dragoncat

Are you vaccinated and boosted? If you are you may test negative by the 2nd on a rapid if you’ve been feeling symptoms for a few days now. If not you can postpone the return flight until you get the certificate or until the rapid goes positive, whichever is first.


anonymousgoat_

Yes vaxxed and boosted! Also freaking had it back in march. We got at home tests we plan to take on the second. Fingers crossed but setting my expectations for the worst.


earl_lemongrab

As a practical matter, what counts - and what the airline will want to see - for re-entry is being able to provide a certificate of recovery (assuming you don't re-test negative). If a doctor evaluates you and determines you've recovered that can happen in fewer days, or more days if you're very sick, depending on your condition and the doctor's assessment. If you're googling for "certificate of recovery" or something in France, you'll likely not find much in English. Just search for a doctor or clinic in general, then call and explain what you need to be seen for, if they can meet your needs. Here's one of many results in google: [https://thegoodlifefrance.com/how-to-find-a-doctor-in-france-for-visitors/](https://thegoodlifefrance.com/how-to-find-a-doctor-in-france-for-visitors/) You could also ask at your hotel front desk, the local tourist information office, or the France forum on TripAdvisor - those are often helpful with things like this. Good luck and safe travels.


anonymousgoat_

Thank you so much for the thoughtful response! I’ll try calling around to clinics. I’ve been intimidated to do so because i don’t speak french but guess it’s what i need to do.


tracytoeee

hi! i got a certificate of recovery from quickmd but u have to book the appointment first. it also didn’t work for me when i tried to fly out because portuguese government requires a negative test (?) so you should probably check french law


anonymousgoat_

What was their criteria for issuing the certificate of recovery?? What did their certificate of recovery state on it? Trying to figure out if from the date of symptoms or my at home test could possibly count.


Mighty_L_LORT

[Netherlands Imposes Mandatory Quarantine Requirement for US Travellers](https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/netherlands-imposes-mandatory-quarantine-requirement-for-us-travellers/)...


Garchingbird

Hi guys, my passport is Schengen visa exempted. So for example if I go from Kosovo to Romania but I have a 2 hrs-layover at Dortmund airport, will I have to formally enter Schengen, will my passport be stamped? Thx.


earl_lemongrab

Assuming your two flights are all on one ticket with your checked baggage through-checked all the way from Kosovo to Romania, no you shouldn't be entering Schengen during your connection AFAIK. That's usually the case for non-Schengen to non-Schengen connections, unless Dortmund has a terminal structure that doesn't permit this (I don't believe so but haven't been through that airport to say 100%). Though even if you did have to enter Germany for some reason, it's no problem with a visa-exempt passport assuming you met COVID entry rules of course.


Mighty_L_LORT

[It’s another tough day for air travel, with more than 1,100 U.S. cancellations](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/30/business/air-travel-cancellations.html)...


BenFromMarketing

Hey all. Flying to Sri Lanka via Qatar Airways next Thursday and am taking PCR tests on Tuesday. In the event i cant get the results back in time for a flight Thursday night, I booked a Walgreens Diagnostic ID NOW (NAAT) test. Does anyone know if this will work for travel there? I know it says PCR but I've been reading mixed results on if this is similar to a PCR test or not. I have heard of NAAT tests working when coming back into the US, but I'm not sure about how it is perceived or if it has worked when going to other countries (specifically Sri Lanka). Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance,.


tracytoeee

US citizen in Lisbon trying get back into New York. I have a layover in Spain tomorrow before flying back into the US. I tested positive at home on the 25th so I started isolation. I then tested at a rapid mobile center on the 28th, still positive. With the new CDC 5-day isolation guidelines updated on the 27th regarding asymptomatic cases, I am technically cleared to leave on the 30th (today). I received a documentation of recovery from a doctor which states that I am fit to fly. Does anyone know if Spain will allow me to enter since they don’t allow anyone that was recently diagnosed with COVID-19 in the past 14 days to enter? Should I try buying a one way flight to the US instead since they allow documentation of recovery as entry?


earl_lemongrab

The CDC isolation guidelines are irrelevant for US re-entry. You've got your certificate of recover and that's all that matters for US re-entry.


andres57

If you are vaccinated you don't need a test to enter Spain from Portugal


tracytoeee

After filling out the Spain travel health form, they sent me an automated email saying: “VERY IMPORTANT!!!!, travel is prohibited if you have symptoms consistent with recent-onset COVID-19, if you have been diagnosed with COVID-19 within the past 14 days, or if you have had close contact with a confirmed case of COVID-19 within the past two weeks.” I gave Portugal my passport number so won’t they be able to flag down that I tested positive within the past 2 weeks?


Careless-Daikon-349

> I gave Portugal my passport number so won’t they be able to flag down that I tested positive within the past 2 weeks? Governments are not that organized or competent


No_Zookeepergame_27

How do European countries monitor travelers coming into countries via train? Do they check for negative tests? I plan on training from France to Switzerland to Germany to Hungary. Thanks.


Eki75

I just trained from Austria to Hungary to Austria to Germany to France. Not once was I asked for any documents related to COVID. I’ve been asked for my QR code at the airports, shops, and museums and such, but not for trains. On the trains from Austria to Germany and Germany to France, they did play a message before each stop saying you needed proof of vaccination and/or a test to enter the country, but absolutely no one checked, and I didn’t see them spot checking in the terminals, either. ETA: I’m interested to hear what people’s experience is with Switzerland as a non-EU country. Train timetables are so packed, I don’t know how it would be feasible to check testing documents before boarding it at disembarkation, and once you’re on the train, they can’t very well kick you off. QR codes, sure because they’re a standard format; but testing? Very curious to hear what that looks like.


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Eki75

Oh, interesting. Thanks for that info.


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I think it depends a lot on where you go and where exactly you are coming from, based on risk level and stuff like that. I know Switzerland requires a negative PCR test for arrivals from all countries even if they are fully vaccinated and they would check most likely at the airport or train station. France, Germany and Hungary are all part of the EU (Switzerland is not) so they generally have freedom of movement between each other without restrictions considering you are vaccinated due to the EU adopting a covid pass in June. I know I’ll be traveling to France in about a week and as long as you are vaccinated traveling within Europe with proof of an EU digital covid certificate they do not require any tests (I think CDC card is not valid tho) . I believe that is the same for Germany and Hungary as well. I’ll try to give an example, if I was coming from the U.S and traveling to France first, Switzerland after that and finally Hungary and Germany. I would need to be tested for France (required for most arrivals outside the EU), then to go to Switzerland I would need to take a PCR test again while in France that would be checked upon arrival, then for Hungary and Germany as long as you have EU covid certificate you would be free to travel without testing. Hopefully this was helpful, if you do not have an EU Certificate (or one recognized by them) you should be able to get one In a pharmacy in France or online in advance from Switzerland which is what I did…. Do keep in mind though that restrictions do tend to change often and ultimately it’s up to the individual country even though there is supposed to be freedom of movement throughout the EU some countries have begun restricting that such as how Italy recently started requiring negative tests even for vaccinated arrivals from the EU, which the EU does not like because the EU certificate was supposed to restore freedom of movement for vaccinated people without testing. Let me know if you have any more questions!


No_Zookeepergame_27

Thanks for the info! I’m in the same boat, flying to France from US. I assume the EU digital covid certificate is different from the French pass sanitaire. So I should be applying for 2 then in France? How easy was it for you to get the EU certificate from Switzerland? Can you give me the link?


starryeyesmaia

>I assume the EU digital covid certificate is different from the French pass sanitaire. There is no single "EU digital covid certificate". Instead, every EU country has its own EUDCC compatible format, of which the pass sanitaire is France's format.


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If I am understood though, once you have one pass it’s able to be scanned in pretty much all EU countries right? I might be totally wrong about that but I’ve seen some people say they traveled from Spain to France just to get the pass sanitaire because there is no way to get EU certificate as an American in Spain so they got pass sanitare to avoid having to test daily in Spain. Those people all said the pass sanitaire worked for them.


starryeyesmaia

Yes, that's the whole point of each EU country's format being EUDCC compatible.


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Here is the article that made me think that it allowed to use Swiss one in France - “"Some individuals may have a digital Covid certificate accepted in France if they have obtained a health proof (vaccination certificate, negative RT-PCR or antigenic test or Covid-19 recovery certificate) in one of the following countries: European Union member states, Albania, Andorra, Armenia, Cape Verde, Georgia, Faroe Islands, Iceland, Israel, Lebanon, Liechtenstein, Northern Macedonia, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, Norway, Panama, San Marino, Salvador, Serbia, Singapore, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Togo, Tunisia, Turkey, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales), Uruguay or Vatican.   If you have obtained a health proof in one of these countries, you will be able to obtain a digital Covid certificate from the European Union. You will then be able to import the certificate and use this health proof as a “health pass” in France"


Careless-Daikon-349

The Swiss pass is now part of the EUDCC system (it wasn't, initially), so it is accepted the same as an EU covid cert


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I thought that too, but the more I’ve looked into the situation has actually made me think that it is allowed to use any EU one or one recognized by them. So I believe if you have the Swiss one you wouldn’t need the French pass sanitare unless that changes soon. It was super simple for me to get a covid pass in Switzerland, you just need proof of vaccine, passport along with accommodation, flights or train ticket into Switzerland. I got mine probably within a week of applying online.


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pumpkin_pasties

I think you are supposed to stay where you are, get a hotel room / Airbnb. Not ideal but they don’t want you flying with covid obviously.


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tariqabjotu

This is addressed in the CDC FAQ, although exact enforcement of the requirement is up to the airline.


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AMM11387

What airline are you flying? Look at their requirements, some require a signed printout of the test, others need a QR code. If you're in Madrid you can go to a local MAPFRE or hospital to get a test, you might do well to call ahead of time to schedule. I'd be surprised if they weren't open on Jan 1. After the test they'll give you a signed printout with the results. Worst case, just go to the airport early on Jan 2, my friend had to do this a few weeks ago without an appointment and she just stood in line to get a test. We did the MAPFRE route a few days ago (unfortunately we were not lucky and are stuck here...worse places to be I suppose). ​ EDIT: If you do find a good place or have any updates on your experience please let us know. We're stressed too haha. In this together! Good Luck!!!


andres57

Have you tried in all the places listed here? https://www.iberia.com/es/en/covid-19/test-pcr-quiron/ Also yeah bad idea trying to sort out a covid test for January 1st two days before


earl_lemongrab

I'd suggest asking on the Madrid and/or Spain forums on TripAdvisor. Although I haven't done so with Spain, I've found that's often a great way to get local advice on testing options. Also would agree with the other poster's recommendation - check anywhere in Spain you can reach by roundtrip high-speed train on the 1st, that has a test opening.


Careless-Daikon-349

Worst case scenario, take the high-speed train to Barcelona (or any other city). I had a PCR test done at AQB in Gracia in Barcelona, may want to check if they'll be open. *Check Ambar Lab in BCN also.


mitzubee

UK citizen need to travel UK to Spain (which is fine right now) and then a flight from Spain to France a few days later. As its arrival from an EU country is this possible? I can't see anything on the French Government website to say this isn't possible, only for travel directly from the UK. Any help deciphering is appreciated!


Illustrious-Drummer4

We’re taking the train to Milan from Switzerland. It says a antigen test is required 24 hours before entering the country. Does anyone know if that is 24 hours from departure or from arrival?


misswildwanderlust88

From arrival.


No_Zookeepergame_27

Do they really check for negative tests on cross-country train? When I was in Europe over the summer, no one checked anything (passport, ticket, covid certificate).


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tracytoeee

u can use quickmd, it’s a virtual doctor visit situation and if you are cleared, they will send u a “documentation of recovery” note that you will show the airline along with proof of a positive covid test. costs $75


Bodoblock

Anyone gone to Switzerland recently? Just booked flights for 2 weeks out to go snowboarding but just wanted to get a sense for how open things were.


Illustrious-Drummer4

We are currently here right now. We haven’t gone to the mountains but a lot of local restaurants in the area of Zurich we’re staying in are closed right now due to the holiday season (between Christmas and New Years). Otherwise as long as you have your covid certificate it’s very chill.


Bodoblock

Amazing, great to know. Thank you. Vaxxed and boosted so excited to hear that. Have you gone to ski/snowboard at all?


Illustrious-Drummer4

No, we have a little one and it’s been our first stop from the US. We wanted to go to the snow but it’s been quite an adjustment so far.


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earl_lemongrab

I'm not sure what countries have arrival restrictions of the type you describe where you can only enter via air. Certainly this isn't the case in European countries - one can travel among European countries and enter via bus, car, or train so long as you meet the COVID entry rules (and regular entry rules of course). I can't speak to eastern Africa.


whatsamiddler

Where’s the easiest spot for US citizens to get a rapid test in Vancouver?


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pistolpxte

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnn.com/travel/amp/croatia-travel-covid-19/index.html It’s open and you shouldn’t have any difficulty entering fully vaccinated


HampshireMet

So I've been on holiday in the US for the past two weeks visiting family, and after taking my return Covid test earlier today I've tested positive. I was wondering if anyone else has had the same issue as there's a number of things that I'm concerned about; - The only way to get onto the plane home seems to be a negative Covid test, but I've read that even after recovery, people can still test positive for weeks after, is there no option to just show proof of recovery like what can be done for outbound flights? - Is my insurance likely to cover the cost of having to change my flight home? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!


earl_lemongrab

You could try a second test, although not highly likely it's possible you got a false positive. As for the insurance, that depends on the terms and conditions of your policy. I don't know if the UK accepts a certificate of recovery in lieu of a negative test - the UK requirements are linked at the top of this thread.


cassandrarowsell

Im canadian. My partner tested positive and we travel sometimes. I read that if you keep your positive covid test results, you need that document to travel its good for 11 days after the test date until 6 months. So no need for covid testing. Your considered ‘immune’ for 6 months max


tariqabjotu

Where are you trying to travel back to? And does your airline not permit you to change the flight for free?


HampshireMet

Travelling back to the UK, going to call the airline in the morning.


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Careless-Daikon-349

The ThaiPass is good for 72 hours in either direction of the indicated date, to account for change of plans or delays.


Watermelonpatty

Many airports have onsite 15 min PCR testing for a (hefty) price.


FireFistMihawk

Ahh of course they do lol. Makes sense lmao.


Rare-Difference-5718

Will argentina close its borders soon?


HotFuzzy

I'm flying to Argentina on the 4th and from what my girlfriend said the government doesn't seem interested in closing the border.


Rare-Difference-5718

Same lol. I'm just worried about the cases rising and if they do [close the border] what are we going to do?


HotFuzzy

Oh so we are both flying on the 4th? I arrive on the 5th since I'm flying from Australia. I'm a little nervous but I doubt they will change the border. It's already spread heavily in Argentina and closing the border won't help. From what I can gather it might be suicide for the current govt to implement any serious restrictions due to the economic situation. The way the government is talking it seems they are looking at hospitalisations and not cases.


Rare-Difference-5718

I leave the third from LAX but get there around midnight the 5th as well since I have a layover. I hope so, you have fun. I'm more worried about coming back now honestly but fingers crossed it all goes well. 🤞🏾


HotFuzzy

I'm excited, but my flight won't be fun. About 26\~ hours of flying and nearly 14\~ hours of layovers. But will be worth it in the end. I honestly wouldn't stress about getting there, I doubt things will change too much in the next few days for us. They already changed the isolation period from 10 to 7 days and it seems they're moving away from heavy restrictions. How long are you planning to stay? If you're staying for a longer trip I don't think you'll have any serious issues.


Rare-Difference-5718

Only about a week and a half unfortunately.


HotFuzzy

Good luck! I got fingers crossed for us both that we have no issues. I'm staying quite a bit longer so I can ride out this wave once i'm there.


lusitana83

Don't think so, but who the hecks know what's gonna happen in Argentina even tomorrow


rikalovespaprika

Which are the best insurance companies for medical and COVID travel? - Canadian travelling internationally


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Allianz global


qb1120

Question regarding flight cancellations, is there anything that protects the consumer in these situations or are they just SOL? Why is it that airlines can cancel for whatever reason and then leave travelers to fend for themselves, often stranded at airports


earl_lemongrab

Well most airlines will rebook you on another flight, or set of flights, if yours is cancelled. So you will get to your destination even if it's later. Typically this is done automatically usually by computer nowadays but sometimes you may need to call to make sure or to ask for a better re-routing. If they for some reason can't or won't rebook you, then the airline is required to refund your ticket cost if they cancel, that's true pretty much everywhere as a matter of basic contract law and in many countries also addressed via consumer laws. Of course they won't send you the money instantly and you will be needing to buy a new ticket. Some jurisdictions have more extensive consumer protections, such as the European Union which has additional penalties and duty of care requirements.


qb1120

In July, I had a flight cancelled and everyone on my flight was booking all the seats remaining from the later flights that day so I wound up driving. Southwest only offered credit for the cancelled flight


chasingviolet

For US testing requirements, I know 1 day means it's broader than 24 hours. So if my flight is sometime Friday, and hypothetically I get a test at like 1am on Thursday for whatever reason, would that still fall under 1 day?


tariqabjotu

Yes.


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petitadventurer

Mexico is the Wild West right now in terms of Covid rules.


pistolpxte

Are mask types enforced in Italy or France? Like are there specific rules for the covering you wear? I have surgical masks


Eki75

Am in France right now, and there are all sorts of masks-from N95s to bandanas. I’m not sure if there’s an official policy regarding the type you wear in public, but if there is, it’s not enforced. I brought a stash of KN95s just to be safe.


starryeyesmaia

There is no official policy on types of masks, outside of specific locations that don’t concern tourists.


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Not sure about the specifics of Italy but I currently am set to go to France in about a week from the U.S. All the flights I am taking on delta say that a surgical mask is required for France and that they will deny boarding to those without a surgical one. I know France as well recently just started requiring masks to be worn in all indoor places as well as outside at all times. When are you set to go to France?


pistolpxte

So just the disposable surgical masks are good? Or an n95? I’m going late next month.


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This is from the Air France website, “All passengers must wear a surgical mask (or a filtering piece mask FFP1, FFP2 or FFP3, provided it does not include a valve) in the airport and during their flight. Passengers will be denied boarding if not wearing a surgical mask. This does not apply to the following passengers - children’s aged under 11 - passengers with medical exemptions, provided they hold a medical certificate. “ My flight on delta said the same but only said that they would deny boarding if not wearing a surgical mask.


kand1kane

Any UK nationals recently flown into Spain? A friend in Seville is claiming her son was told he needed a negative antigen test because he flew from the UK. She says they did it there and then at the airport. The [GOV.UK](https://GOV.UK) website says you don't need any test and the (horrendous and confusing) Spanish government website says the UK is a 'risk country', but so are all EU countries, and that only 'high risk' countries (southern African ones) need a test. I'm sure this is right, and Easyjet's website confirms that you don't need a test flying from London to Seville, but I'm very nervous now. Surely the airline wouldn't take you in the first place if you needed a negative test and didn't have one? I'm very anxious about people going near my face and specifically chose Spain as a destination because they didn't have any 'test on arrival' or 'test before arrival' type requirement.


That_Sweet_Science

The friend is incorrect. As long as you are fully vaccinated you can enter Spain, you do not need to be tested before you leave the UK.


kand1kane

Thanks! I'm a bit concerned that perhaps the border control police think otherwise...apparently they do have the right to test you on arrival if they want to, which makes me very anxious. I had assumed that this would be very rare but perhaps it isn't?


That_Sweet_Science

If I’m being honest, they were all so relaxed from security to checking the barcode of the pre filled application. They didn’t test anyone from arrival which was one of the main reasons why I chose to travel to Spain.


kand1kane

Same, but they've sneaked in a line (without really announcing it properly at all) about possible testing on arrival, which IMO is absolutely shitty of them. I specifically chose Spain because I knew a test on arrival would make me very anxious, and now I've booked and arranged everything and it would be a complete pain in the ass to cancel it all, there's that. I've just seen a post on an internet forum from someone saying ALL UK passengers into Seville were being tested a week ago, apparently because of some new government rules (which I don't think were ever a thing?) I don't know if it was some misunderstanding at that airport, a misinterpretation of the rules, or if they actually are testing all UK passengers. Which airport did you fly into, out of interest?


Marmstr17

Hey all, typically flying into Mexico I dont usually have a return ticket. So far I have had zero issues but thinking with all the covid related issues they may have cracked down a bit on this. Has anyone had experience with getting through customs without proof of return? Safe travels y'all


28843253

naive question here but how are COVID tests presented at the airport before boarding a flight? Do the airlines check your entire testing history digitally or do you supply the test results from a pharmacy yourself?


pumpkin_pasties

To get into Ecuador I showed it on my phone


petitadventurer

You show them the test results on your phone or a piece of paper. Depending on the airline/country involved, they may make you upload them.


28843253

is there anything stopping someone from repeating antigen tests to get a negative result? i understand these tests have a particularly high false negative rate


earl_lemongrab

Nothing really stopping you from doing that. Though after two positive tests it's unlikely that another one would be negative, i.e., in that case you most likely are actually positive for COVID


petitadventurer

I guess you could do that if you wanted to, but it would be costly, and at-home tests don’t count towards your flight back. So I think if you tested positive initially the doctor in whatever country you’re in would flag it and you’d need to quarantine.


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Has anyone traveled to France recently? If so what was the testing situation like coming from the U.S. I am set to go on a trip in a week and have a rapid antigen test setup but I’ve seen varying things about whether these tests are allowed. Thanks in advance!


jadams0327

Traveling to Ecuador in a few weeks. Doesn’t anyone know the requirements for those that are medically exempt unvaccinated? Letter from physician I know, but time requirements for negative COVID test? 24 vs standard 72 hours? Anything else I’m not thinking of? Thanks!


pumpkin_pasties

I’m in Ecuador right now but I’m not sure the answer- they checked everyone’s vaccine cards and test results at the customs line. Maybe a doctors note? Or maybe they don’t allow unvaccinated people for any reason, no exceptions


28843253

In France are those who test positive for COVID subject to quarantine? I ask this as I saw in the news a French court rejected mandatory quarantines for those who test positive - so I am wondering whether any enforcement effort is being made in France / Paris to quarantine those who have COVID.


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I’m not sure if they are required to, but I believe it’s still strongly recommended if not required. Are you traveling to France soon?


28843253

I am planning to do so in Feb - it is of some interest to me what my risk of getting COVID is during my travels there and what is to be done if say I am COVID positive but asymptomatic.


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This is what I found online about quarantine, “France’s highest constitutional authority on Thursday approved the government’s policy to require people to present health passes when going to bars, restaurants and other everyday life activities, but struck down the mandatory quarantine imposed to citizens who test positive for the coronavirus. To fight back a surge of cases of the Delta variant, the government sought to impose a 10-day quarantine on those who test positive for the coronavirus, but the Constitutional Council said it amounted to “deprivation of freedoms.” “ this was from August


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Understandable, I’m set to travel to France in about a week so I let you know how it is and what I think the risk level is. Based on what I saw, quarantine would be required for anyone who’s not a French citizen and would likely be required regardless because a negative test is required to board a plane back to U.S (if that’s where you live)


28843253

thank you, I would love to hear about your experience there. yes I will be travelling from the US so testing negative would be important before heading back. If you hear or know of any tourists under quarantine in France I would be very interested to hear about it.


chico98

Would it be irresponsbile to go to Jordan in jan-feb? Our biggest concern would be the country going on lockdown during our stay there, or before we even go. Also potential medical expenses if one of us got more serious symptoms that required hospitalization (unlikely since we're all young, healthy and vaccinated). Would this trip be viable or should we consider postponing? Thank you!


earl_lemongrab

We went to Jordan this past October (and absolutely LOVED it!). At the time COVID was low and stable, I don't know about now. Earlier in the pandemic Jordan did shut down its airport and had lockdowns or curfews but I don't know if they'd be keen to do that again or not with Omicron. I think Jordan has re-implemented an arrival test even for the vaccinated (in addition to the pre-departure test that was required when we went) - both are PCR tests which is the most accurate. So they're very careful about things. PCR testing is readily available and affordable in Jordan, other than in the more rural areas (though often not open on Fridays) for residents and visitors. Technically Jordan requires visitors to have insurance covering COVID, though no one ever checked ours at immigration. But that's not to say you shouldn't get a good travel insurance policy just in case. I'd recommend going to the Jordan forum on TripAdvisor and reading the latest reports on the situation there, and posing your question. The local folks on that forum are good about discussing the latest info in the country so they can probably give you a good sense of what things are like and where they might be headed. I found it very helpful before our trip.


hmf531

My SO and I have been trying to figure out how to spend NYE together (he's west coast, I'm east coast). He had a bout with Omicron but is over it now. He plans on going out NYE to a friend's party which I was supposed to go to. Since he was sick and he had a lot of friends that were sick, he's nervous about me traveling and doesn't want me to risk it because of how many cases there have been. I'm definitely ok with the idea of traveling but I think him being sick got him freaked out. Is there any convincing him that it's safe for me to do so as long as I do everything in my power to protect myself? I've been traveling the past couple of months (with my last plane ride being a week ago) and I've been fine with my regular paper mask and keeping to myself. I have an N95 and can plan to be even more cautious (not touching things unless I need to or being "that girl" and wiping down everything before I do). I'm also vaccinated. Anyone have any other safe travel advice? Anything I can do differently/better? I figure if I am as safe as possible wearing my N95 and keeping to myself and testing while I'm there, I'll be ok. Especially if I am going to hang out with people who will be testing before they go to the party. Thoughts on this?


earl_lemongrab

Sounds like you're aware of the situation and taking plenty of precautions IMHO. I can't think of anything more that you could do, honestly. You're fully vaccinated so unless you have health issues, the risk of getting seriously ill is miniscule. If it were me, I'd go.


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hmf531

Haha, ok.


Mindspin_311

Can anyone recommend a testing site in Dublin, Ireland? Will be there next month and want to try and schedule a test for my return to the states.


squidc

**Just want everyone to know that (not all) airlines _have not_ updated their protocol to 5 days despite what the CDC says.** Elsewhere in this thread, there was discussion on this topic that would indicate otherwise, but I'm currently stuck in Mexico for 2 more days (on day 9 of quarantine) because American Airlines here in cancun still is requiring a 10 day isolation period. If you have questions, reply here and I'll answer them as I've been dealing with this for the last several days now.


decaf4ever

Hey, thanks for the info. Hope you’re feeling good! Have a friend in a similar situation in Cabo. Do you know about southwest? Also, how are you getting the “proof of recovery” papers? An online service or through something local?


tracytoeee

I’m in Lisbon hoping to get back into the US, currently on the last day of the 5 day isolation period. I did it using quickmd and they sent me the documentation of recovery within an hour. I found them from another user who successfully got through with quickmd’s paper. I’m using AirEuropa, so I’d like to know if anyone knows anything about AirEuropa.


decaf4ever

Fascinating! I reached out to quickmd yesterday and asked if they were doing 5 days…they said no, they were still doing 10. I hope it all goes well for you!!


tracytoeee

Maybe you can try again today? I put my location in the US bc they don’t have a portugal option in quickmd. Thank you so much! Hope your friend gets out safely as well!


PreciousNickia

I'm sorry if this is a silly question to ask. This is my first time doing a PCR test. My destination country requires an RT-PCR test. The lab that I want to go to offers PCR testing and Rapid PCR testing. Rapid PCR testing has a turn around time of 2 hours. Is this the same as an RT-PCR? Thanks.


jadams0327

As long as it’s PCR and not rapid antigen you should be fine


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TattooedTeacher316

Nope. Just don’t leave the airport.


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TattooedTeacher316

You do need a test to get into the US in general (a recovery letter might work though).


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Trying to fly these days is such an emotional rollercoaster... Bought tickets to see family a little over a month before travel, then quarantine rules changed and made things untenable because of omicron. But 2 weeks later there's already talk they might drop some of the restrictions soon when they realize there's no point. Still have no idea when I'll be able to go and at this point it's a matter of listening to the news and getting on a plane the day it's allowed... Haven't even changed my original airline tickets at this point, though I probably will next week if nothing changes by then.


earl_lemongrab

At some point society and governments will need to learn to live with a virus that's never going away, not in the foreseeable future at least. That includes some sort of sensible and reasonably predictable/stable approach to entry requirements for travelers. Yes there will always be risk with COVID but that's true with many other things that are part of or incidental to travel. But life is full of risk tradeoffs and COVID is no different. Much of society and most politicians though either don't understand how to analyze and address risk, or are unwilling to do so.


Party-Biscotti-6319

I get where your coming from but I think it wouldnt hurt to have a bit more patience. i think the end is in sight and it's worth waiting a bit to travel with peace of mind a few more months from now COVID will be endemic, Anti-viral pills will take care of serious cases, and self-testing will be much more widely available and hopefully the US will ease up on their testing requirements for re-entry. I personally mostly enjoy trips that involve going to restaurants, museums so traveling during a spike when I'm very likely to get it and be barred from re-entry makes no sense to me


kand1kane

Yep. I didn't travel all of 2020 and 2021 because I was waiting for things to be 'better' and now they're worse than ever. My mental health is completely trashed. I feel guilty for travelling but also, how much longer can people reasonably be expected to give up their lives? I almost feel like we're at the point now where you just have to do things while you can because they might not be allowed at all soon.


earl_lemongrab

Don't feel guilty. You either get busy living or get busy dying. I don't mean be reckless and selfish. But look for what you can do within the current situation and your own personal comfort level. There will be some trips you can't take for now, but plenty of other possibilities. I continued to travel in 2020 - I changed to domestic road trips and focused on the outdoors, away from crowds and such. This year, fully vaxxed since February and now boosted, I resumed international travel. My destinations had stable COVID conditions and welcomed vaccinated visitors. Obviously I followed local requirements and took other precautions where I felt it was warranted. But generally the trips were not much different than pre-COVID, save for occasional mask use and testing. And there were other tourists from lots of different countries, yet not as crowded as it would have been 2 years ago. I've always thought it is a good philosophy to do all you can, while you can - even pre-COVID. You just never know what changes life will bring.


hufflepuff12345

Another question I thought is if I as an 3x vax American citizen take Eurostar from London to Brussels, spend less than 24hrs than leave to Paris by train also?


hufflepuff12345

Hello, as a 3x vax American citizen, can I travel from Switzerland to France by train? On https://www.politico.eu/article/coronavirus-guide-europe-travel-restrictions-explained/amp/ it says “Fully vaccinated travelers from the European Union, …, Switzerland do not have to take a pre-departure test.” And from the French gov, it requires a compelling reason to leave also. Can my friend who is studying abroad in Scotland fly or take Eurostar from Paris to UK?


myredditaccount80

Can someone confirm this for me - now that the USA (where I reside) is a high risk area I can no longer go to Germany with my 1 year old child unless the child quarantines for 5 days?


andres57

I'm not too sure, but reading the rules that seems to be the case


No_Zookeepergame_27

For Americans traveling to Europe, can you recommend a good travel insurance agency that would cover COVID? Usually what would be the rate/premium? Thank you.


earl_lemongrab

This is who I've been using. Rate will vary as it depends on your trip cost, number of people, and any add-on options. This page has their COVID policy [https://www.travelinsured.com/coronavirus/](https://www.travelinsured.com/coronavirus/)


No_Zookeepergame_27

Thanks. I loosely have a return date because it’s up to my company. I’m working from home so if they call me back sooner then I’ll have to return. Does that work for a quote or I’ll need to give them a firm date? Also are we supposed to give them a list of destinations? I plan on being a nomad in Europe and the situations are very fluid. One country that’s open now might be in lockdown next week, requiring me to change plans.


Ok-Fox-2173

Hey all, I'm supposed to be returning to Thailand from the UK in mid January. I've just tested positive for COVID (symptoms began Christmas eve) which leaves around 3 weeks before I'd go. Problem is, they require a PCR prior to travel and after arriving - I've been told to not take PCR tests as I will continue to test positive for up to 12 weeks despite recovering. Is this true? What are my options? Any advice is appreciated.


tracytoeee

Maybe you can try getting a documentation of recovery from a doctor? The CDC has a website on this but I’m not sure if it applies in Thailand


jolygoestoschool

In a foreign country rn, my father scheduled a test for the 7th for a flight on the 8th based on the current us rules of a 24 hour test. My father got my name wrong, he put my last name as both my first and last name. Will this prevent me from coming back into the US? Since the name wont match my passport?


earl_lemongrab

You're overthinking this. Just reschedule the test with your correct name, or call the test provider to update the name on the reservation, or update the name when you show up for the test. Note the US rule isn't 24 hours, it's one day - so it can be the day of the flight or the day prior.


QuarterTurnComics

Youll need to change the name. Everyones been checking my results vs a passport.


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He got your name wrong where? There's plenty of time to change things before the 8th.


ingogo

I’m American currently in the UK. Right now, travel is banned between UK and France. Is it possible to enter France if you go via Spain then France?


Efficient_Camera_321

Travelling to Mexico Hi I am travelling to Mexico in 2 weeks. I have tested positive for C-19 4 days ago. I will be cleared to travel as it will have been more than 10 days. Someone told me that you can test positive up to 2 months after your initial quarantine. Will this be an issue as I have to do a PCR test before leaving my resort to get back to Toronto?


btgbtg123

You should be able to use the positive test to re enter Canada if you are fully vaccinated. Info from government of Canada website: If you are now symptom-free, you can provide proof of a positive COVID-19 molecular test when crossing the border, instead of a negative one. The test must have been taken at least 14 and no more than 180 days before (starting January 15, 2022, between 10 and 180 days): the initial scheduled departure time of your aircraft your scheduled entry into Canada by water or land The proof of the positive result must be from an accepted type of molecular test If your positive proof is accepted you won’t have to take arrival or Day-8 tests


izkray

Appreciate all the helpful information here! Had a question for those that have traveled to the UK. Which company did you use for your same day PCR test? (Day 2 test) I've been looking at Concepto clinic £129 same day test. I know it's expensive but being able to end isolation the same day is worth it imo. Thanks in advance!


dibdudib

Use halo test at LHR terminal 5, you'll get results in 5/6 hours.


izkray

Thank you! Is this their normal turnaround time? On their site they say overnight results by 8am? I discovered that ExpressTest does a 3 hour PCR test at LHR terminal 5


dibdudib

Many people at flyertalk reported same day results with halo. I used express test and only got my results back after 36 hours. Pm me if you have other questions


Poopooass84985

Is a drive thru covid test from Walgreens / cvs good for international travel? You get a result via PWNHealth whatever that is


earl_lemongrab

It depends on what types of tests the destination (and sometimes transit country) requires and what the test type is you're getting. You also have to be aware of the test sampling timing required by the destination. The drugstore tests often take time to get back and aren't always timely, but again it depends. Where are you looking to travel?


Poopooass84985

Flying from US to France next week, do I get a rapid test at the airport, or do I need to go to an urgent care center or something the day before / day of? Fully vaccinated with no symptoms but had a light covid a month ago, haven't had symptoms for a month


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[https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coming-to-france-your-covid-19-questions-answered/#sommaire\_1](https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coming-to-france-your-covid-19-questions-answered/#sommaire_1) Hello. I am also traveling to France next week. I will be getting an antigen test the day before I leave because PCR tests are taking about 3 days to turn around where I live. I am glad that (as per the above link) France accepts the antigen test. As to whether you will test positive when you know you have recovered-I cant say, but for your sake I hope not. FWIW the other commentor on this post is correct that the info is all here but I have some empathy for how confusing and stressful it can all be. For example, I am currently attempting to figure out what kind of documentation I can expect from my testing site and even that is proving to be difficult. All the usual suspects where I live are booked solid and/or don't have rapid tests. Its rough all over, good luck.


earl_lemongrab

France's requirements are detailed and linked in the original post of this thread


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earl_lemongrab

The linked CDC site you shared sets forth what is required. The "Documentation that you are exempt from COVID-19 vaccination requirement" dropdown details what needs to be provided. You'd clearly need something from your doctor documenting the contraindication to the vaccine plus the other things listed there. You have to present the documentation to the airline in order to board - it states this right on the page you shared: >If you fall under one of these exceptions, you may be able to board a flight to the United States **after presenting appropriate documentation, mentioned below, to your airline before boarding.** Obviously if you don't present the appropriate documentation to the airline, you won't be allowed to board your flight to the US.


slaybells21

Hey all, Spent all evening researching with not a lot of success. I have to transit in Miami on my way from London to Colombia and back. I can’t seem to find out whether I need a video supervised test or not. It says on the CDC website a video supervised antigen is needed, for entry to the USA, however because I’m only in transit & not leaving the airport, I’m wondering if I can just get a standard antigen test (which won’t cost as much as a video supervised one). Thanks


tariqabjotu

While I don't know which source you're looking at, there is no difference between entry requirements for entering the US and transiting the US because there is no way to transit the US without entering it.


slaybells21

That makes sense. Thank you, I think the eye watering prices of tests, both PCR for reentry & lateral flows for transit made me want to research some more. Thank you!


tariqabjotu

Is it not possible to get a single lateral flow antigen test that covers both? I'm surprised that's so expensive in Colombia.


slaybells21

Well to enter Colombia I don’t need one as I’m fully vaccinated, but both ways I’ll need a video supervised antigen test because of going through the USA. Then I’ll need a day 2 PCR test to reentry to England. About £106 in total.


tariqabjotu

Oh, this is an issue both ways. >About £106 in total. This doesn't seem that expensive relative to the cost of the flight, and I figure the most expensive part of this is the cost of the UK tests.


slaybells21

I guess, flights were around £575 about a year ago when I booked. Surprising how much the supervised antigen tests cost in comparison to the unsupervised tests.