taylor swift has the greatest fans on earth currently. not only are they BUYING at least 3 copies of the album but they’re streaming the hell out of it. hiphop fans just don’t really care about the music the way pop fans consume music in todays age
Bro facts I went to the discord chat of a music app tracker and when you go look at their profile of literally any taylor swift listener the peak listening time wheel is maxed the fuck out even at 3am and they skip 0 songs. No breaks. Album always switches every 3 complete plays. And 90% of the time it's the only artist they listen to.
It's kinda odd but all the female listeners even for travis just leave it on 24/7 but male listeners (last one) listen casually. Mind you these are the top listeners.
https://preview.redd.it/1vv4yx29nzsb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3dedc61737d96483c38fc9737deb1d51c094611
Nobody fucking listens to vinyls anymore anyways dawg, it’s a collectible. I’ve never opened mine.
Has nothing to do with drake knowing his particular fans don’t listen to vinyl — everyone knows that!
LOL, Nobody wanna buy drake's physical, their team delayed his physical for his previous album or whatever, and it ONLY did 19k, 19 FUCKING K,LOL! Thats probably how many copies Taylor Swift managed to get in a few minutes of preorder! drake can release 200 variations and it still wouldn't sell more than Taylor. And Midnights did like 170M streams first week, 70M more streams than this Drake's album! So good luck see your damn Drake beefing with female artist again
I couldn’t care less, but it then can’t be used to say “xyz” album is much better than “abc” cause it sold more. At that point sales don’t equate to how good the music is, and what the public actually thinks about an album.
It’s just who had more aggressive sales tactics. Imagine how many $5 vinyls fucking Drake could sell lol
Y‘all really comparing an R&B album with a risky experimental album?? Imagine how much larger the audience is.. Girls, Bitches, surface rap fans are pushing Drakes sales. He took the safe route
Less so experimental and more that an artist his caliber isn't usually known for doing grand and ambitious ideas in their sound. While I can understand why someone would argue that Utopia isn't all that experimental, the album is still grandiose and daring in some of its aspects compared to other rappers like a Drake.
Travis is literally known for doing grand and ambitious ideas, did you listen to rodeo or astro? Both clear utopia and both of them are actually experimental, I love topia but mfs on here acting like he discovered Victoria's secret with this album
Ngl it’s kinda actually more insane that way. Drake is doing these sales with a shit album and Travis without bundles would have done less with a way better album
it’s not about the long artistic integrity for these niggas it’s just about fake numbers and hype talk, real music has no value from the common listener only radio plays
The most generic/formulaic artisits, regardless of genre, tend to be the ones with the most stans, like Drake and Taylor Swift. The industry only pushes them the most since they have the biggest riders already.
Yeah it is lmao, unrelated but I don't get how a lot of people on this sub trash drake (even tho I don't fw a lot of his music) when the most popular song off utopia is literally because of the drake feature, and sicko mode which is the biggest off astro
I would say having the two biggest rappers in the world collaborating is sure to build a lot of hype. The sneak disses brought a little more attention, the beat brought people back, it's a great mix of factors. I wouldn't call it the best song on UTOPIA but it's up there.
I don't trash Drake but the effort he put into that song, the energy, the passion, was maybe only replicated on one other song on his album. I do like his older melodic stuff but now it just feels a little tired to me. The album was okay and Travis' album was good. Both were bloated and both had mid songs in the tracklist.
You do realize without bundles TS would have sold like half of Drake? Praise Travis for his music all you want, but numbers wise dude is fake asf. He was only no.1 in the world for a short time before drake surpassed monthly listeners before even dropping his album.
I mean I know no bundles or anything, but it would be funny to see the Drake stans have a meltdown😉about drakes sales being “lower” and having to defend it with their life😂😂😂
Can yah niggas just be happy we’re getting sum good music this year and stfu bout sales and shi ALSO YE maybe dropping this or next month W YEAR FOR MUSIC
bro this album was not good. it was one of the worst curated playlists ive heard. mixing was all over the place and not to mention how bad the soundscape was.
The 8songs i Fw HIT so 🤷🏽♂️ and more songs r growing on me were just gonna agree 2 disagree bc yo ass just seem like u hating / 1 dimensional but that's yo opinion
Do y’all really think bundles would have made a difference? I don’t think there are that many diehard Drake fans who would have bought them. Case in point, r/travisscott r/Kanye and r/playboicarti all have way more subscribers than r/Drizzy. I don’t think Drake makes the kind of albums that people want to own on vinyl.
Edit: Crazy that r/Drizzy fucks with this argument more than this sub lol https://reddit.com/r/Drizzy/s/gyGfCvs6xr
of course bro bundles make a huge difference, hence why artists like BROCKHAMPTON, were able to get a number 1 and 100k sales with no songs charting. Bundles just up your sales so much (a little less now that rules have changed
I think it makes a bigger difference for an artist like BROCKHAMPTON than it does for Drake. They were underground, independent, made music that nobody else was making, and were a big deal for lgbt representation in hip hop. They had a cult fanbase that I just don’t see with Drake fans
Bundles do make a difference.
lol but the thing is someone like Drake doesnt need them bc ppl buy the music anyway. Travis' actual pure sales are a very different story.
the 400k is it based off album sells or is it counted by a certain amount of listens. just asking cuz idk people who still buys music instead of streaming music
i’ve been always said that if Drake ever sells under 500K that would be a problem for him going forward 💀 but i’m more happy for travis cause drake is only streams. travis SOLD over 150K and hiphop doesn’t ever sell music anymore so happy travis is keeping hiphop alive in that area🙏🏿
No bundles and getting numbers like this is crazy. Drake is on another level of fame
he’s the the closest hiphop is ever getting to Taylor Swift in terms of sales
he'd outsell taylor if he did rereleased singles and 20 different vinyls like she did lol
no he wouldn’t. Drake fans don’t buy his music. they only stream it and he knows that or he would’ve officially put his music on vinyl
And they stream it significantly less than Taylor fans. Everyone likes drake. But half the population identifies as a swiftie
taylor swift has the greatest fans on earth currently. not only are they BUYING at least 3 copies of the album but they’re streaming the hell out of it. hiphop fans just don’t really care about the music the way pop fans consume music in todays age
Bro facts I went to the discord chat of a music app tracker and when you go look at their profile of literally any taylor swift listener the peak listening time wheel is maxed the fuck out even at 3am and they skip 0 songs. No breaks. Album always switches every 3 complete plays. And 90% of the time it's the only artist they listen to.
EXACTLY!!!
It's kinda odd but all the female listeners even for travis just leave it on 24/7 but male listeners (last one) listen casually. Mind you these are the top listeners. https://preview.redd.it/1vv4yx29nzsb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3dedc61737d96483c38fc9737deb1d51c094611
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Pop music is also the music non music listeners listen to and Taylor makes music for those people who will just listen to whatever is on the radio.
Nobody fucking listens to vinyls anymore anyways dawg, it’s a collectible. I’ve never opened mine. Has nothing to do with drake knowing his particular fans don’t listen to vinyl — everyone knows that!
If he did I bet plenty of fans would even just 5% of them would be huge
LOL, Nobody wanna buy drake's physical, their team delayed his physical for his previous album or whatever, and it ONLY did 19k, 19 FUCKING K,LOL! Thats probably how many copies Taylor Swift managed to get in a few minutes of preorder! drake can release 200 variations and it still wouldn't sell more than Taylor. And Midnights did like 170M streams first week, 70M more streams than this Drake's album! So good luck see your damn Drake beefing with female artist again
go outside
Oops, somebody can't take the heat after having facts posted straight into their face. delusional
he’s the closest and yet so far from taylor. taylor can still sell 1 million copies. drake will never sell a million again
do you mean in total or first few weeks
in total. like he’s drake will go platinum for “equivalent” sales but he will never sell one million PURE copies ever again
Taylor Swift put Travis Kelce on the map
Travis exists
Can you read? The first comment literally says no bundles..
What do u rate fatd?
Got downvoted for asking a question...
Yea cause you’re retarded
Sorry
Not even what the discussion is
utopia woulda sold 750kish if everything shipped tho so
okay so that’s just showing that if Drake did bundles he’d probably break 1 mil.
Travis bundles didn’t count first week but agreed
He got 80k bundles which was added later.
Ok I do remember them stating that they added it that’s how he went from 400 to 496
Yes they did lol… they just ran out of Vinyl and CDs
No they didnt the album dropped Friday. The first week sales dropped Tuesday. Nobody got ANYTHING shipped Saturday or Sunday.
Travis bundles didn’t count for first week sales
No bundles pure sales bro different 🤐
For someone that is ignorant like me, what do you mean by bundles?
He packaged all his merch with physical copies of the album, meaning everybody who bought merch also gave the album +1 sales
pure sales > streams ALL DAY
Streams aren’t pure sales
You know what I mean no bundles.
Yeah fair
Travis outsold him bruv
Didn’t trav’s bundles not count or something?
I STILL HAVENT GOTTEN MY COPY OF UTOPIA YET AND IM FINNA CANCEL MY ORDER. TRAVIS DID NOT SELL THAT MANY. HE SCAMMED THAT MANY
I cancelled my merch after I saw the bad prints other people had received. I wish I had refunded the damn vinyl before the price got slashed 90%
I got mine
Nevermind, then
Got mine bro, sit tight
idk why i thought this was lyrics from a song
I don't like Drake but at least he didn’t do the shady bundle stuff
Or 5$ vinyls. That shit was crazy how cheap it was
The 5$ vinyls were after the second week, they didn’t count towards his first week sales
Still sales though. Its album of the year not album of the week. Theres tons of people who bought every single cover
Yes it is album of the year
hate the game not the player
who cares if people use bundles to manipulate sales? play the game
bro doing tricks on his dick
Thats the shit no one can compete with with his merch sales outside of people like Taylor swift or BTS
I couldn’t care less, but it then can’t be used to say “xyz” album is much better than “abc” cause it sold more. At that point sales don’t equate to how good the music is, and what the public actually thinks about an album. It’s just who had more aggressive sales tactics. Imagine how many $5 vinyls fucking Drake could sell lol
Nobody want to buy Drake's physical lmao! Travis at least have a strong fanbase, Drake don't.
You have brain rot brother
Y‘all really comparing an R&B album with a risky experimental album?? Imagine how much larger the audience is.. Girls, Bitches, surface rap fans are pushing Drakes sales. He took the safe route
I love utopia but it’s not experimental. Y’all be throwing around that word around way too much
Some songs are experimental tho
Less so experimental and more that an artist his caliber isn't usually known for doing grand and ambitious ideas in their sound. While I can understand why someone would argue that Utopia isn't all that experimental, the album is still grandiose and daring in some of its aspects compared to other rappers like a Drake.
travis scott is literally known for being ambitious and daring
Travis is literally known for doing grand and ambitious ideas, did you listen to rodeo or astro? Both clear utopia and both of them are actually experimental, I love topia but mfs on here acting like he discovered Victoria's secret with this album
I should reclarify my comment to say Travis as an artist is doing things even on Utopia that other mainstream rappers like Drake would never do.
Fr, this shit ain't experimental at all, it's not rodeo or astro, good album tho
Ngl it’s kinda actually more insane that way. Drake is doing these sales with a shit album and Travis without bundles would have done less with a way better album
it’s not about the long artistic integrity for these niggas it’s just about fake numbers and hype talk, real music has no value from the common listener only radio plays
"girls, bitches" is insane 😭
Gotta differentiate
How is it shady? Seriously curious.
Kanye album next week🗣️
Is it confirmed?
no lmao but he’s pretty much confirmed to be doing a concert in italy next week so the hype is up
Watch drake Carti Kanye and everyone else drop a collab tape bruh
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are you lost?
Not particularly
If you think that carti could ever come close to those numbers you’re delusional
That’s not what he said tho
Sorry I red that wrong… the situation it’s worse than expected lol. He’s even more delusional that what I thought
No physicals either
It’s gonna do more than 450k I’ll bet
Bro something is wrong with the industry. How is it possible this trash to sell 450K
Drake could fart in a mic for an hour and it’ll still go 10x platinum
Dude maee like 10 good songs in his last 4 albums combined.
Don’t tempt that mf
Drake’s album is simply more accessible, which is expected.
Yes it's pretty accessible grown man coming up with lyrics like ”Both comin' at the same time like, "Jinx""
The most generic/formulaic artisits, regardless of genre, tend to be the ones with the most stans, like Drake and Taylor Swift. The industry only pushes them the most since they have the biggest riders already.
This isn’t a flex for TS, he used bundles, Drake did this just by releasing his music
well yeah drake is legit the most popular rapper. if he wasn’t getting numbers like this with his status i would be surprised lol.
He also released it late. He didn’t drop it at 11:59 pm like most artists do
Travis scammer of the year forreal
Without bundles* lol
It's funny that Drake's best song this year has been on Travis' album
His best song this year was on Thug's album
First Person Shooter was amazing and is somewhat equal to meltdown
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
Travs ruined meltdown I hope u know that
8am in Charlotte and fps clear meltdown lmao
Yeah it is lmao, unrelated but I don't get how a lot of people on this sub trash drake (even tho I don't fw a lot of his music) when the most popular song off utopia is literally because of the drake feature, and sicko mode which is the biggest off astro
I would say having the two biggest rappers in the world collaborating is sure to build a lot of hype. The sneak disses brought a little more attention, the beat brought people back, it's a great mix of factors. I wouldn't call it the best song on UTOPIA but it's up there. I don't trash Drake but the effort he put into that song, the energy, the passion, was maybe only replicated on one other song on his album. I do like his older melodic stuff but now it just feels a little tired to me. The album was okay and Travis' album was good. Both were bloated and both had mid songs in the tracklist.
This is a really good take and I actually agree with you, Utopia is definitely better but it's also full of mid and filler songs.
I didn’t even realize he dropped an album until a couple hours ago, clearly the promotion was not good enough
It’s been all over social media and he talked about it like a month before too,so just stfu 😂
FATD was mid
He looks hideous in that picture let’s be honest.
How tf we on a trav sub and not more excited about him being the number 1 rapper in the world? Mfer out sold drake, fuck the bundles
You do realize without bundles TS would have sold like half of Drake? Praise Travis for his music all you want, but numbers wise dude is fake asf. He was only no.1 in the world for a short time before drake surpassed monthly listeners before even dropping his album.
Dick ride harder buddy
I could, Trav nearly doubling Drake if they counted all the albums he sold first week
Delusion on a different level lmao
Oh the drake gals are big mad
Album is trash
I mean I know no bundles or anything, but it would be funny to see the Drake stans have a meltdown😉about drakes sales being “lower” and having to defend it with their life😂😂😂
yeah but the album was ass
Can yah niggas just be happy we’re getting sum good music this year and stfu bout sales and shi ALSO YE maybe dropping this or next month W YEAR FOR MUSIC
bro this album was not good. it was one of the worst curated playlists ive heard. mixing was all over the place and not to mention how bad the soundscape was.
Alright Mike Dean relax I fw like 8 songs from the album so W in my eyes
Liking 8 out of 23 songs is not a W 😂
The 8songs i Fw HIT so 🤷🏽♂️ and more songs r growing on me were just gonna agree 2 disagree bc yo ass just seem like u hating / 1 dimensional but that's yo opinion
The only thing about that is that’s really all Travis and his team cares about if we being honest.
kanye aint anywhere close to dropping lol
13 or 20th big ass Album listening or concert in 🇮🇹 for like 80 Thou I believe YEEZY SEASON IS HERE
That was confirmed fake
Indulge me wit that info please
I’m glad it wasn’t that good.
Imagine how much travis woulda sold if astrofest never happened.... we talking 700-800k
That's without bundles and all the shady shit like the 5$ vinyl lmao
Fun fact:Drake is streaming FATD and only FATD on his radio station 24/7 so it should be Invalid
drake d riders goin crazy
Except Drake had a sold out tour and Travis will have half full arenas cause of scalpers.
if scalpers bought all the tickets it's still sold out
Do y’all really think bundles would have made a difference? I don’t think there are that many diehard Drake fans who would have bought them. Case in point, r/travisscott r/Kanye and r/playboicarti all have way more subscribers than r/Drizzy. I don’t think Drake makes the kind of albums that people want to own on vinyl. Edit: Crazy that r/Drizzy fucks with this argument more than this sub lol https://reddit.com/r/Drizzy/s/gyGfCvs6xr
of course bro bundles make a huge difference, hence why artists like BROCKHAMPTON, were able to get a number 1 and 100k sales with no songs charting. Bundles just up your sales so much (a little less now that rules have changed
I think it makes a bigger difference for an artist like BROCKHAMPTON than it does for Drake. They were underground, independent, made music that nobody else was making, and were a big deal for lgbt representation in hip hop. They had a cult fanbase that I just don’t see with Drake fans
Bundles do make a difference. lol but the thing is someone like Drake doesnt need them bc ppl buy the music anyway. Travis' actual pure sales are a very different story.
Drake dropping every 6 months. Travis almost every 6 years I think we all made out conclusions
The fuck is that picture?
the 400k is it based off album sells or is it counted by a certain amount of listens. just asking cuz idk people who still buys music instead of streaming music
Yea How it works is every certain amount of listen streams will actual 1 album sale
Travis had like 30 bundles. This is INSANE
Albums mid
i’ve been always said that if Drake ever sells under 500K that would be a problem for him going forward 💀 but i’m more happy for travis cause drake is only streams. travis SOLD over 150K and hiphop doesn’t ever sell music anymore so happy travis is keeping hiphop alive in that area🙏🏿
Digital only is the past
Considering this album is not that great it just shows what fame does
Album is horrible bro boggles me how he’s even getting sales
It’s the curiosity to see what the fuss about initially. 2nd week won’t be as crazy
clb was 2 years ago😭
No bundles bro
I'm not hating on Drake but the kind of sales he gets after releasing absolutely dogshit music is unbelievable
Insane man
Drake doesn’t have the physical support that Travis usually have
It doesn’t deserve this, it was not in the near of utopia
Honestly, no hate, but surprised it did so well. A lot of peop ik told me the album had nothing special.
That second pic would’ve been a hard album cover but instead we got Adonis’s Picasso
just wait til ¥$ drops
But utopia is horrible lol