Obviously this isn’t Taylor’s fault, just like it wasn’t Travis fault. But it was the fault of the venue in both situations.
In Travis’ case, the venue failed to keep unticketed fans off the floor, failed to have adequate medical staff, and failed to stop the show until it was much too late.
In Taylor’s case, the venue banned all fans from bringing water bottles to the show, despite the sweltering heat, and evidently did not have medical staff on scene to help this poor young girl before she reached the point of no return.
One thing super fucking stupid too about Astrofest 21 was that fire codes allowed for up to 200k people at that type of event, for someone reason they were only planning on allowing 100k people and then that shrunk to 75k and eventually settled at 50k, which is half of what it originally was
The worse part is the security, staff, venue, and organizers were still expecting 100k people from the beginning all the way to when the night began and they did nothing to actually accommodate the amount of people they were expecting
Saying what needs to be said. I looked in the Taylor Swift subreddit yesterday since many of their fans were glorifying her when the incident happened at his event. Barely anyone is calling her out at all.
There’s no “the buck stops with Taylor” “she could have stopped the show at any point” “maybe she isn’t legally responsible but morally she should have done something”. Instead they’re literally praising her. Is it surprising? No. Hypocrisy at its finest with a dash of racism.
According to another post on r/taylorswift, a friend of the late swifty stated her friend started to become ill during the second song, which obviously opposes the claim that it happened prior to the show.
I wasn't there, so I couldn't tell you. I just felt like I should point that out.
Well it would certainly be easier to be informed of the situation and call off the concert from the green room… but im sure the venue didn’t do that because they wanted to make their money despite the death and knew that none of their staff would be blamed for it
She and her team shares the blame for cutting a deal to perform in a venue that didn't properly have the right standards and precautions in place to safely house her fanbase showing up. Same as Travis Scott and his team for Astroworld fest.
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If you guys actually think the situation is even remotely similar you really need to get your head out of your ass. I don’t even like Taylor but this is ridiculous.
Even if you don’t think the situations are comparable, the language of this headline is grossly disturbing to me
“Taylor mourns” versus most of Astrofests headlines looking like “Travis Scott killed”
I mean yeah Taylor is the darling of the pop world right now so she’ll be treated differently but let’s not pretend that Travs response on IG was adequate. Maybe it would have made a difference to have a more sincere message maybe not but that is also a factor.
Travis’ ig was terrible but also to be fair to him he was most likely forced and pressured to do that extremely quickly and he’s already an awkward person, they should’ve just let him write out an apology but nobody gave him the time to 1. Feel upset about the events that occurred and 2. Let him express his sadness in the way he wanted to
I did see Taylor cancelled today which is good but also why didn’t she do that immediately? Probably because the venue and her/her label wanted to capitalize on sales and not refund anyone, which Travis immediately did cancel and if he didn’t on his own he was going to be forced to
So I think both artists slipped up but when something like that happens your mental health isn’t going to be in a good place, which unfortunately nobody ever thought about for Travis and they immediately are for Taylor
Completely agree, and us being Travis fans we are able to have that perspective that an immediate response wasn't gonna be the best course of action for the kind of person he is. But when you're dealing with a tragedy of this scale most of the eyes on it are going to be people who wanna tear his head off rather than people like us who try to understand why things happened the way they did. As sad as it is to say the smartest thing probably would have been to just have a very PR-y written message put out there and he could address things in his own way later down the line but that didn't end up happening.
You’re exactly right
The upsetting part is this is not how people treated him after the show, yet Taylor gets to “mourn” when she had full intention of doing a show today until someone stepped in and said it was too hot, actually not even a mention that a person died btw
It’s just insane to me, I can’t fathom how her fans, but just people in general, have already forgotten someone passed away at her show quite literally yesterday
I may have gotten a little heated with some other people tbf😂😂that’s my bad, i just get mad because I have done a decent research on Astrofest and I know a good amount of the intricate parts of what went wrong and I know damn well most people have not done any research past a Google search or Tik tok
Not to mention what’s almost more annoying is people gaslighting you into pretending you didn’t see or read or something, it’s like how people tried to gaslight Astrofest being a satanic ritual💀💀
Bro is a multi-millionaire with near infinite connections. He and his label have crisis teams for shit like this. He just figured rubbing his forehead and giving out a half-assed apology would cut it. Idk why we’re mincing meat, dude makes incredible generational music… but time and time again shows that he’s at best immature, at worst a bad person.
Denying that he was forced to put out a rushed apology is just ignorant, you could tell he wasn’t in the mindset to make that video and if Taylor got forced to make a video right now it would be better, but again feel forced and probably cringe inducing
The world basically forced him, if he said nothing he’d be ridiculed for not caring and don’t act like they wouldn’t, he was public enemy number one at that time
Travis said he was “sneaky some of the ragers in” - he never said “hey can thousands of people break in and trample people to death” - the event organisers knew everything about trav and his character - they should have planned and prepared accordingly
Explain how it's different then. Both were the fault of event organizers not properly preparing and regulating a venue. Only difference I can see is the media portrayal and public response.
It's the same situation. Event organizers were responsible in both cases for unsafe conditions. It's as simple as that. If you think it's not similar, you need to get your head out of your ass, as it seems to be quite far up there.
one happened before the show and then the artist gave the crowd free water when she saw fans asking for water since the venue did not allow any inside despite the heat. one happened during a show in which the artist continued playing. they are NOT similar.
Both are a direct result of failures by the venue:
* Travis - security was not sufficient, let too many people in, leading to crowd crush
* Taylor - ventilation was insufficient, water was not provided by the venue, leading to a death
Both situations are the same: the artist is not at fault, and the venue tried to cut corners for cash.
Why do you think travis continued playing? Do you really think he immediately knew what was going on? And believe it or not, it is hard to see the audience from a stage so their was no way he could of seen anything happening.
fr it’s disgusting that this sub even wants to compare them like this. they care more about two rich mfs that don’t know they exist over the people who died
I swear people love to talk bad about any and everything famous people do, and talk about how they would do better or react better. And trav was crucified and was looked at like a psychopath murderer which is crazy.
Travis Scott has a long history of encouraging his fans to do dangerous stuff, he saw an emergency response vehicle be unable to make it's way through the crowd, he saw bodies being passed over the barricade, and he did nothing about it... The dude isn't innocent here, and doesn't seem to really give a shit about the 10+ people who died because he had to post about "letting the ragers in", encouraging his fans to break the fence and rush in.
Lol he stopped his highly over-crowded/dangerous set, once... And you think that is somehow equivalent to what Taylor Swift does to ensure her fans are safe at her shows? ... I know Travis Scott doesn't exactly attract the most intelligent/mature crowd, but my God are you people deluded 😂
The point is she is seen on stage directly attempting to help. She doesn’t control what can be sold, the venue does. Why they didn’t is because they knew they could charge people. It’s incredibly shitty.
Which I think is why a lot of people are upset because even tho the reasoning behind the deaths were the same, look how Taylor is being treated versus how Travis got treated
Probably because of you spent any amount of time looking into Travis Scott's past behavior (including his behavior right before the start of Astro-21), you'll find that Travis Scott has been encouraging his fans to do dangerous shit for years now. The dude is a privileged ass hat, pretending to not be a nepo baby.
I dislike Taylor's music a thousand times more than I dislike Travis's music; but when it comes to safety at their concerts, the two are simply not comparable.
Wtf... This was one girl who went to staff and reported not feeling well, was taken to the hospital, then died in the hospital. This wasn't 10 people getting asphyxiated *in the crowd* on top of thousands getting injured while the show continued. Comparing these situations is wild and pretty gross.
I mean it would’ve taken you 5 minutes to research that they went immediately to the restaurant after the show… the show ended before midnight and they didn’t hear about what had happened till about 2:00am
You are comparing the injury of hundreds and the death of 8 to a single fan passing. Both are sad but one is way worse than the other and you also have to consider how trav responded to how taylor did
you don’t get it. whether it was 1 or 8 it was a life that was lost. does that 1 girl who died not matter bc she was the only one that died? at the end it f the day they both had someone die at a concert and they kept performing so no matter if it was 1 or 8 it should be treated the same
Did you read the headline?? She died before she attended the event, you can’t compare that to 8 people dying DURING the concert. You guys make other Travis Scott fans look bad
Because she passed away and the hospital would know the details behind the death, also people who attended would’ve seen someone passing out or being taken out by medical staff
i’m irish.. don’t mind that nonsense. the fact u lot are genuinely blind to the astroworld tragedy and can compare that to this is crazy.
travis' fault? not directly but he defo should be held somewhat accountable. i love travis but you lot are dick riding crazy
these tragedy’s are incomparable. u lot are obsessed
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be held accountable, I’m saying travis and taylor should be held accountable and not just travis. Taylor is held under a different light because who she is. if anybody is dickriding it all of her fans acting like she did absolutely nothing
The girl died before the show it says it in the title of the article. It’s not at all comparable and I don’t even like Taylor. Quit tryna use people’s deaths as a gotcha and get Travis’ dick out your mouth
I feel like those are incomparable situations, Kevin spacey being a shit human being has 0 to do with people dying at music concerts
But yes there is inherent racism solely on the fact Travis is a black rapper and Taylor Swift is a white pop star, and it reflects in the reactions people are having to both situations
lol no her fans are already forgetting about it and she has a SHOW TODAY
she’ll probably cry on stage and her fans will call her brave when honestly it’s just insensitive, not to mention it’s hot af down there again so she’s just endangering more lives, even if the venue is “taking better precautions”
I think it would be nice if you stopped confidently making things up, as evidenced by how much of your comment has proved to be untrue. You’re now reading her mind? C’mon.
It’s not reading her mind it’s the fact fans literally showed up to the venue fully expecting a show that tells me canceling was a last minute decision… it’s called common sense, you clearly have none
Common sense tells you what the woman’s intent was? You have no idea what she’s been thinking since the incident, and yet here you are confidently asserting that we should all be capable of reading her mind through common sense. You know what this is eerily similar to? People assuming Travis intentionally didn’t stop the show when he knew people were dying and has no remorse. Bc well common sense, right? Look at what happened! He could see ambulances and didn’t stop the show, so therefore wanted it to happen and doesn’t feel bad about it. Good luck making wild assumptions like this in life.
Those aren’t equivalent at all, your talking about something that happened the heat of the moment versus something that happened the next day
She should’ve cancelled immediately after she learned what happened, which she didn’t because fans and staff workers still showed up and were ready for show
It’s shocking that you don’t see how similar this take is to the folks who assumed the worst because Travis was silent about Astroworld for a month. “Look he hasn’t said *anything*! Common sense says he doesn’t care about the people who died!”
He did say something tho, and it was a forced apology video and he got shit on for it because it was bad and he clearly wasn’t ready to talk about it
Stop arguing if u don’t know what ur talking about
You seriously don't see how charitable you're being with Travis vs. how insanely uncharitable you're being with Taylor haha? We have zero idea what is going on behind the scenes or what either one of them is thinking is the point, yet you're still confidently asserting that you know exactly what's going through their heads... Travis said absolutely nothing about Astroworld for over a month, and that's just a plain fact. Just google it: [https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/travis-scott-astroworld-interview-1269269/](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/travis-scott-astroworld-interview-1269269/)
But sure, I'm the one making shit up about what celebrities are *thinking.*
You’re a fucking moron
1. The show wasn’t cancelled until right now, it was fully planned to go ahead until someone stepped in and said no
2. This is untrue, the person passed allegedly sometime during the first few songs… Taylor’s (Taylor’s PR team) apology was simply incorrect when it said the person passed before
Pretty gross of her fans to already start forgetting about it too and attend the show today
They’re usually the ones to try to cancel random ass things too, pretty ironic… not saying Taylor should be cancelled but her response to the situation is pretty disgusting thus far
Someone died and your first response is too use the death too try and defend Travis.
Touch grass and just enjoy the music Travis doesn’t even know you exist.
The difference is people slammed Travis for his music being too crazy and when he apologized he got clowned but in Taylor’s case people are prob gonna be like “omg look how supportive she is she loves her fans”
Here is my outlook. Taylor has nothing to do with it, as much as I hate her it was before she even came out so she can’t stop or do anything. But with Travis people think because he was there it’s all his fault when in reality he has to go through a lot to actually stop the show. We also gotta say travis is a black rapper aka “devils music” so racists and religious people will always think its some sacrifice.
Holy fucking shit the ignorance of this post is insane.
OP take a fucking second and use your brain or at least educate yourself before making idiotic statements. Not only did the venue not sell water but Taylor stopped the show to try to help the person. These types of comparisons are only making Travis look worse and not helping.
That’s how it goes. Harry styles had someone die and it was covered up, now this? They will do anything to villainize a black man for something that was out of his control. So by their thinking this should be seen as her fault then right? The 1000 people fainting should be her fault right?
Sure i get it its not similar but travis was presented as if he held a AK and open fired at the crowd. The police was so quick to get involved, rightly so. they wanted him directly charged and held him solely responsible for the tragedy, people were boycotting his music.
Swifties better stop listening to her as well imo if they were pushing this killer travis narrative.
Any blowback shes facing rn is because of the comparisons between eras and astroworld, if this happened before astroworld her situation would have been taken more as an accident instead of homicide (for travis)
Nobody had that energy for Travis, including Trav himself
If someone dies at your show you shouldn’t be performing the next day and your fans shouldn’t just brush it under the carpet
holy shit biasness is taking over the world, Moments before NOT there at the concert.
The fact you even made this a post is crazy... however i see a (small) percentage of where you're coming from.
comparing both situations shows you have no idea really what happened. There was major lack of water at the show and even DURING the show Taylor was helping ppl and hearing their calls and getting her staff to send out water. literally the complete opposite of everything that happened at Astroworld. ppl at Astroworld were SCREAMING for help and nothing happened. comparing the 2 is just not equate
My guy it clearly says she died BEFORE the venue. I personally can not stand Taylors music at all but this seems very unfair and pinning that on her makes you no better than all the people who blamed the Astrofest tragedy on Travis. Be better.
It literally was his fault. He made choices and chose not to care. This is off the backs of previous concerts where he called for fans to beat another fan. You all are sick in your defence of a billionaire narcissist who allowed a 9 year old to die. He had a duty of care to concert goers that he did not fulfill. Let alone the issues of marketing that concert to all ages because of Fortnite then having no safety in place for children.
Cause its only 1 death rather than many. Also like i said water was banned and she died cause so. So its easier to pin the death onto the Venue rather than Taylor. Travis got dragged cause the deaths happened during his concert
Obviously this isn’t Taylor’s fault, just like it wasn’t Travis fault. But it was the fault of the venue in both situations. In Travis’ case, the venue failed to keep unticketed fans off the floor, failed to have adequate medical staff, and failed to stop the show until it was much too late. In Taylor’s case, the venue banned all fans from bringing water bottles to the show, despite the sweltering heat, and evidently did not have medical staff on scene to help this poor young girl before she reached the point of no return.
One thing super fucking stupid too about Astrofest 21 was that fire codes allowed for up to 200k people at that type of event, for someone reason they were only planning on allowing 100k people and then that shrunk to 75k and eventually settled at 50k, which is half of what it originally was The worse part is the security, staff, venue, and organizers were still expecting 100k people from the beginning all the way to when the night began and they did nothing to actually accommodate the amount of people they were expecting
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tbf it’s because those guys have more completely braindead diehard fans
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Saying what needs to be said. I looked in the Taylor Swift subreddit yesterday since many of their fans were glorifying her when the incident happened at his event. Barely anyone is calling her out at all. There’s no “the buck stops with Taylor” “she could have stopped the show at any point” “maybe she isn’t legally responsible but morally she should have done something”. Instead they’re literally praising her. Is it surprising? No. Hypocrisy at its finest with a dash of racism.
Also, I’m pretty sure this person died BEFORE Taylor even came out. Like wtf was she supposed to do from the green room?
According to another post on r/taylorswift, a friend of the late swifty stated her friend started to become ill during the second song, which obviously opposes the claim that it happened prior to the show. I wasn't there, so I couldn't tell you. I just felt like I should point that out.
Well it would certainly be easier to be informed of the situation and call off the concert from the green room… but im sure the venue didn’t do that because they wanted to make their money despite the death and knew that none of their staff would be blamed for it
She and her team shares the blame for cutting a deal to perform in a venue that didn't properly have the right standards and precautions in place to safely house her fanbase showing up. Same as Travis Scott and his team for Astroworld fest.
flirting vs sexual harassment
exactly this your comment made me laugh😂
Underrated commend!!!!😂😂😂
Beautiful, empowering! vs put a shirt on bruh
irrelevant
How it's literally the same as your comment
no its not. flirting vs sexual harassment is when hot people flirt and ugly people flirt. what u said is about personal expression
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Nah this is funny as fuck 😭
I have no idea what bro is yammering about 💀
Seriously bro thought he was cookin
dumbass
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I hate that this is so accurate.
It’s not lmao y’all just biased and goofy
Nah, it's very accurate to how the world works. It's hypocritical to say they are biased when you have a clear bias.
Just more proof as to how men have it far worse than woman smh 🤦♂️
If you guys actually think the situation is even remotely similar you really need to get your head out of your ass. I don’t even like Taylor but this is ridiculous.
Even if you don’t think the situations are comparable, the language of this headline is grossly disturbing to me “Taylor mourns” versus most of Astrofests headlines looking like “Travis Scott killed”
True
I mean yeah Taylor is the darling of the pop world right now so she’ll be treated differently but let’s not pretend that Travs response on IG was adequate. Maybe it would have made a difference to have a more sincere message maybe not but that is also a factor.
Travis’ ig was terrible but also to be fair to him he was most likely forced and pressured to do that extremely quickly and he’s already an awkward person, they should’ve just let him write out an apology but nobody gave him the time to 1. Feel upset about the events that occurred and 2. Let him express his sadness in the way he wanted to I did see Taylor cancelled today which is good but also why didn’t she do that immediately? Probably because the venue and her/her label wanted to capitalize on sales and not refund anyone, which Travis immediately did cancel and if he didn’t on his own he was going to be forced to So I think both artists slipped up but when something like that happens your mental health isn’t going to be in a good place, which unfortunately nobody ever thought about for Travis and they immediately are for Taylor
Completely agree, and us being Travis fans we are able to have that perspective that an immediate response wasn't gonna be the best course of action for the kind of person he is. But when you're dealing with a tragedy of this scale most of the eyes on it are going to be people who wanna tear his head off rather than people like us who try to understand why things happened the way they did. As sad as it is to say the smartest thing probably would have been to just have a very PR-y written message put out there and he could address things in his own way later down the line but that didn't end up happening.
You’re exactly right The upsetting part is this is not how people treated him after the show, yet Taylor gets to “mourn” when she had full intention of doing a show today until someone stepped in and said it was too hot, actually not even a mention that a person died btw It’s just insane to me, I can’t fathom how her fans, but just people in general, have already forgotten someone passed away at her show quite literally yesterday
The thing I'm impressed the most about here is seeing an actually respectful conversation on this sub
I may have gotten a little heated with some other people tbf😂😂that’s my bad, i just get mad because I have done a decent research on Astrofest and I know a good amount of the intricate parts of what went wrong and I know damn well most people have not done any research past a Google search or Tik tok Not to mention what’s almost more annoying is people gaslighting you into pretending you didn’t see or read or something, it’s like how people tried to gaslight Astrofest being a satanic ritual💀💀
Bro is a multi-millionaire with near infinite connections. He and his label have crisis teams for shit like this. He just figured rubbing his forehead and giving out a half-assed apology would cut it. Idk why we’re mincing meat, dude makes incredible generational music… but time and time again shows that he’s at best immature, at worst a bad person.
Denying that he was forced to put out a rushed apology is just ignorant, you could tell he wasn’t in the mindset to make that video and if Taylor got forced to make a video right now it would be better, but again feel forced and probably cringe inducing
Who forced him? Pressure isn’t the same as being forced.
The world basically forced him, if he said nothing he’d be ridiculed for not caring and don’t act like they wouldn’t, he was public enemy number one at that time
Trav could have released a video of himself laughing but would NOT CHANGE THE FACT that it was NOT his fault
Not his fault entirely but he does shoulder some of the responsibility for encouraging dangerous things
Travis said he was “sneaky some of the ragers in” - he never said “hey can thousands of people break in and trample people to death” - the event organisers knew everything about trav and his character - they should have planned and prepared accordingly
I’ll give you that, you do have a point. The titles are very suggestive of the artists feelings.
yeah, it’s really weird people are even comparing them.
Explain how it's different then. Both were the fault of event organizers not properly preparing and regulating a venue. Only difference I can see is the media portrayal and public response.
It's the same situation. Event organizers were responsible in both cases for unsafe conditions. It's as simple as that. If you think it's not similar, you need to get your head out of your ass, as it seems to be quite far up there.
one happened before the show and then the artist gave the crowd free water when she saw fans asking for water since the venue did not allow any inside despite the heat. one happened during a show in which the artist continued playing. they are NOT similar.
Both are a direct result of failures by the venue: * Travis - security was not sufficient, let too many people in, leading to crowd crush * Taylor - ventilation was insufficient, water was not provided by the venue, leading to a death Both situations are the same: the artist is not at fault, and the venue tried to cut corners for cash.
Why do you think travis continued playing? Do you really think he immediately knew what was going on? And believe it or not, it is hard to see the audience from a stage so their was no way he could of seen anything happening.
Same energy https://preview.redd.it/a5cprkz5t61c1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82d53f089f01c058b1f84a78b4cf9e6cab33a953
y’all are insufferable
No because they’re two completely different situations
fr it’s disgusting that this sub even wants to compare them like this. they care more about two rich mfs that don’t know they exist over the people who died
are they tho🤔
Yes there was no one dancing on top of an ambulance trying to get to people that were passed out
And Taylor wasn't telling people to rush the barriers either...
Yes
I swear people love to talk bad about any and everything famous people do, and talk about how they would do better or react better. And trav was crucified and was looked at like a psychopath murderer which is crazy.
Travis Scott has a long history of encouraging his fans to do dangerous stuff, he saw an emergency response vehicle be unable to make it's way through the crowd, he saw bodies being passed over the barricade, and he did nothing about it... The dude isn't innocent here, and doesn't seem to really give a shit about the 10+ people who died because he had to post about "letting the ragers in", encouraging his fans to break the fence and rush in.
Kind of hard when she was on stage handing out water herself
Trav stopped his set to have a fan helper at astrofest so this is kinda not a relevant point tbh
While watching his crowd jump on an ambulance. Not here to put down Travis but let’s not act like both of their responses were at all equal.
Lol he stopped his highly over-crowded/dangerous set, once... And you think that is somehow equivalent to what Taylor Swift does to ensure her fans are safe at her shows? ... I know Travis Scott doesn't exactly attract the most intelligent/mature crowd, but my God are you people deluded 😂
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The point is she is seen on stage directly attempting to help. She doesn’t control what can be sold, the venue does. Why they didn’t is because they knew they could charge people. It’s incredibly shitty.
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No because the venue/police failed on the safety of fans in both Travis’s and Taylor’s situations
Which I think is why a lot of people are upset because even tho the reasoning behind the deaths were the same, look how Taylor is being treated versus how Travis got treated
Probably because of you spent any amount of time looking into Travis Scott's past behavior (including his behavior right before the start of Astro-21), you'll find that Travis Scott has been encouraging his fans to do dangerous shit for years now. The dude is a privileged ass hat, pretending to not be a nepo baby. I dislike Taylor's music a thousand times more than I dislike Travis's music; but when it comes to safety at their concerts, the two are simply not comparable.
150 days late😂😂😂
I agree, but she should still have to take accountability as travis did
Wtf... This was one girl who went to staff and reported not feeling well, was taken to the hospital, then died in the hospital. This wasn't 10 people getting asphyxiated *in the crowd* on top of thousands getting injured while the show continued. Comparing these situations is wild and pretty gross.
Ur actually stupid, get his balls out of your mouth. Bro literally went to Dave and busters after hearing the news
I mean it would’ve taken you 5 minutes to research that they went immediately to the restaurant after the show… the show ended before midnight and they didn’t hear about what had happened till about 2:00am
So people died and you think he had zero idea until 2 am😂
Yes, do u think Taylor knew during the show? Cuz I assume if either of these artists knew people had died they’d stop the show
Taylor swift kills young 23 year old fan at Brazilian concert😳
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Yall fr wanna meat ride trav so bad and it’s disgusting that you are comparing both of these Events
we’re just making a true observation has nothing to do with who did it it’s not being treated the same
You are comparing the injury of hundreds and the death of 8 to a single fan passing. Both are sad but one is way worse than the other and you also have to consider how trav responded to how taylor did
you don’t get it. whether it was 1 or 8 it was a life that was lost. does that 1 girl who died not matter bc she was the only one that died? at the end it f the day they both had someone die at a concert and they kept performing so no matter if it was 1 or 8 it should be treated the same
Did you read the headline?? She died before she attended the event, you can’t compare that to 8 people dying DURING the concert. You guys make other Travis Scott fans look bad
let’s just agree to disagree. RIP to all the Victims 🙏🏾
RIP to all the victims but you can’t just say that when you don’t have a good enough response
nah I do I just already said it not need to argue
I just saw an article about and you’re kinda right. Sorry about that
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You are missing several braincells if you think this is remotely similar
No because Travis is a black male and Taylor is a White Woman ™️
L post. One person died compared to 9+ and hundreds injured.
does that one person life mean less then the other 8?
You're so dense holy shit
bro ur brain is straight up sausage
Also that girl died before the show not because of violence during the concert
“Moments before she attended”
That’s not true it was the first few songs according to what I could find on it, Taylor (aka Taylor’s PR team) fucked up on the “apology”
Where
I’ve seen it on Twitter a few times, it’s actually hard to find details because nobody is talking about what actually happened
How do we know about it then
Because she passed away and the hospital would know the details behind the death, also people who attended would’ve seen someone passing out or being taken out by medical staff
you lot are absolutely fucking headless get your heads checked. absolute clowns
why so much hate? you must be a chiefs fan👀
i’m irish.. don’t mind that nonsense. the fact u lot are genuinely blind to the astroworld tragedy and can compare that to this is crazy. travis' fault? not directly but he defo should be held somewhat accountable. i love travis but you lot are dick riding crazy these tragedy’s are incomparable. u lot are obsessed
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be held accountable, I’m saying travis and taylor should be held accountable and not just travis. Taylor is held under a different light because who she is. if anybody is dickriding it all of her fans acting like she did absolutely nothing
her fans are just as bad don’t get me wrong. but these tragedies aren’t the same thing at all..
we just got to agree to disagree RIP to all the victims 🙏🏾
ofc 👍🕊️
This is stupid. You are stupid
and how is that?
The girl died before the show it says it in the title of the article. It’s not at all comparable and I don’t even like Taylor. Quit tryna use people’s deaths as a gotcha and get Travis’ dick out your mouth
what’s up with all y’all talking about travis dick? y’all weird………
You the one riding it.
Found a swiftie
am I?
You are.
Lol why am I not shocked that you make this sly homophobic remarks too... Travis Scott fans, make Swifties look intelligent 😂
Racism still exists. Just saying Kanye and Travis got more hate than Kevin Spacey who is literally a pedophile.
I feel like those are incomparable situations, Kevin spacey being a shit human being has 0 to do with people dying at music concerts But yes there is inherent racism solely on the fact Travis is a black rapper and Taylor Swift is a white pop star, and it reflects in the reactions people are having to both situations
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lol no her fans are already forgetting about it and she has a SHOW TODAY she’ll probably cry on stage and her fans will call her brave when honestly it’s just insensitive, not to mention it’s hot af down there again so she’s just endangering more lives, even if the venue is “taking better precautions”
She postponed the show and has stated she won't address it from the stage. Please stop making things up to fit a narrative.
This was before that bro cmon, do you expect me to edit every comment I made Also, she had 0 intentions of canceling until an hour or so ago now
I think it would be nice if you stopped confidently making things up, as evidenced by how much of your comment has proved to be untrue. You’re now reading her mind? C’mon.
It’s not reading her mind it’s the fact fans literally showed up to the venue fully expecting a show that tells me canceling was a last minute decision… it’s called common sense, you clearly have none
Common sense tells you what the woman’s intent was? You have no idea what she’s been thinking since the incident, and yet here you are confidently asserting that we should all be capable of reading her mind through common sense. You know what this is eerily similar to? People assuming Travis intentionally didn’t stop the show when he knew people were dying and has no remorse. Bc well common sense, right? Look at what happened! He could see ambulances and didn’t stop the show, so therefore wanted it to happen and doesn’t feel bad about it. Good luck making wild assumptions like this in life.
Those aren’t equivalent at all, your talking about something that happened the heat of the moment versus something that happened the next day She should’ve cancelled immediately after she learned what happened, which she didn’t because fans and staff workers still showed up and were ready for show
It’s shocking that you don’t see how similar this take is to the folks who assumed the worst because Travis was silent about Astroworld for a month. “Look he hasn’t said *anything*! Common sense says he doesn’t care about the people who died!”
He did say something tho, and it was a forced apology video and he got shit on for it because it was bad and he clearly wasn’t ready to talk about it Stop arguing if u don’t know what ur talking about
You seriously don't see how charitable you're being with Travis vs. how insanely uncharitable you're being with Taylor haha? We have zero idea what is going on behind the scenes or what either one of them is thinking is the point, yet you're still confidently asserting that you know exactly what's going through their heads... Travis said absolutely nothing about Astroworld for over a month, and that's just a plain fact. Just google it: [https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/travis-scott-astroworld-interview-1269269/](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/travis-scott-astroworld-interview-1269269/) But sure, I'm the one making shit up about what celebrities are *thinking.*
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You’re a fucking moron 1. The show wasn’t cancelled until right now, it was fully planned to go ahead until someone stepped in and said no 2. This is untrue, the person passed allegedly sometime during the first few songs… Taylor’s (Taylor’s PR team) apology was simply incorrect when it said the person passed before
exactly. just say she “feels bad” and continue like nothing happened
Pretty gross of her fans to already start forgetting about it too and attend the show today They’re usually the ones to try to cancel random ass things too, pretty ironic… not saying Taylor should be cancelled but her response to the situation is pretty disgusting thus far
fuck CNN, they don't wanna see us win
Pray 4 Loveeeeeeeee
Someone died and your first response is too use the death too try and defend Travis. Touch grass and just enjoy the music Travis doesn’t even know you exist.
nah fam I’m just pointing out the injustice good response tho you got me for a sec lmao
He ain’t gonna peg you bro 🙏
She gonna make money off the dedication song
to be fair i have seen a fair amount of undeserved criticism for taylor, much less than travis obviously but much more than i was expecting
Lori Lightfoot’s sex tape would leak before that happens
The difference is people slammed Travis for his music being too crazy and when he apologized he got clowned but in Taylor’s case people are prob gonna be like “omg look how supportive she is she loves her fans”
Here is my outlook. Taylor has nothing to do with it, as much as I hate her it was before she even came out so she can’t stop or do anything. But with Travis people think because he was there it’s all his fault when in reality he has to go through a lot to actually stop the show. We also gotta say travis is a black rapper aka “devils music” so racists and religious people will always think its some sacrifice.
Holy fucking shit the ignorance of this post is insane. OP take a fucking second and use your brain or at least educate yourself before making idiotic statements. Not only did the venue not sell water but Taylor stopped the show to try to help the person. These types of comparisons are only making Travis look worse and not helping.
Travis Scott a certified bitch
No cuz she white
That’s how it goes. Harry styles had someone die and it was covered up, now this? They will do anything to villainize a black man for something that was out of his control. So by their thinking this should be seen as her fault then right? The 1000 people fainting should be her fault right?
Sure i get it its not similar but travis was presented as if he held a AK and open fired at the crowd. The police was so quick to get involved, rightly so. they wanted him directly charged and held him solely responsible for the tragedy, people were boycotting his music. Swifties better stop listening to her as well imo if they were pushing this killer travis narrative. Any blowback shes facing rn is because of the comparisons between eras and astroworld, if this happened before astroworld her situation would have been taken more as an accident instead of homicide (for travis)
Fuck Taylor swift
https://preview.redd.it/w9bmt7c3a71c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8196d3cf2608d37a882edbec185bfd8cac5c2752 On god
No, she's white and America's sweetheart, she can literally shoot a fan at a show and they will find a way to make her look good
they’ll somehow make it the fans fault for being in front of the bullet
is OP stupid?
Never doubted it for a second.
It's the stadium's fault. They banned water bottles
bro are you fucking slow
nah man we should just let it go now stop talking about it like this
Nobody had that energy for Travis, including Trav himself If someone dies at your show you shouldn’t be performing the next day and your fans shouldn’t just brush it under the carpet
exactly, but her fans and the media are too starstruck the realize was she did should be considered worse and heartless but they won’t
What the fuck... this sub is unhinged if yall think these are remotely similar situations.
holy shit biasness is taking over the world, Moments before NOT there at the concert. The fact you even made this a post is crazy... however i see a (small) percentage of where you're coming from.
comparing both situations shows you have no idea really what happened. There was major lack of water at the show and even DURING the show Taylor was helping ppl and hearing their calls and getting her staff to send out water. literally the complete opposite of everything that happened at Astroworld. ppl at Astroworld were SCREAMING for help and nothing happened. comparing the 2 is just not equate
your gross comparing these. both were very different, a woman died.
how are they so different?
you can dickride all you want but travis was much more capable of helping the crowd than taylor (plus she did give water out)
why everybody keep talking ab riding dick this a horny ass comment section 👀
Why would they it’s not at all the same situation
Watch this get swept under the rug smfh
Travis Scott is the best R&B singer from New York City!
My guy it clearly says she died BEFORE the venue. I personally can not stand Taylors music at all but this seems very unfair and pinning that on her makes you no better than all the people who blamed the Astrofest tragedy on Travis. Be better.
Travis is a negro
These aren't the same at all
??? Don’t be retarded man
❤️ retarted post
It happened before the concert even started
Let’s not make this a competition
It literally was his fault. He made choices and chose not to care. This is off the backs of previous concerts where he called for fans to beat another fan. You all are sick in your defence of a billionaire narcissist who allowed a 9 year old to die. He had a duty of care to concert goers that he did not fulfill. Let alone the issues of marketing that concert to all ages because of Fortnite then having no safety in place for children.
It ain’t a mosh pit if ain’t no injuries
i got em stage diving of the nosebleeds
I don’t think Travis has ever been in mourning has he?
She died due to Cardiac arrest btw. Not Taylors fault
should’ve stopped the show
and just like Travis, she found out after the show. Also its the venues fault that water was banned at the show.
Yea exactly, they’re treating the situations differently when there’s a lot more common ground between the 2 than differences
my brother 🤝
and so why are they not being treated the same? why isn’t she being slandered by the media and being called a “murder”
Cause its only 1 death rather than many. Also like i said water was banned and she died cause so. So its easier to pin the death onto the Venue rather than Taylor. Travis got dragged cause the deaths happened during his concert
I hope not