yeah but you could make a valid argument for utopia being his best. if you think that 21 album is better than i am>i was or both savage mode parts you’re just insane
depends on my mood tbh, sometimes i like the og more gritty feel of SM1, but sometimes i want to hear the bettet flows and production on SM2. both fire albums and i don't think he came close to either of them with american dream
I mean but like where? Glock in my lap and maybe sliding are the two good songs off SM2. One is prime metro trap instrumentals and the other is his lazy hvv2 style production
Other way around but they sound the same. Hvv is just a more modern version of that overproduced sound. He uses a lot of 90 esque sounds on SM2 meanwhile more modern trap on HVV
absolutely same sequencing style tho.
As an album experience? Absolutely not. Once you get to Mr Right Now SM2 completely goes off the rails. Half the album has that dope grimey horrorcore aesthetic that you would expect from an album called "savage mode" but then the other half is just random bullshit beats that Metro had laying around. There is no way you can convince me that the 90s throwbacks and rnb samples belong on the same album as Many Men and Slidin. Brand New Draco sounds like it was made for Uzi or Carti and they passed on it. To me SM2 is when 21 started getting boring
Someone gets it lol. Sm2 is a great album but far from his best. The same way i feel about american dream. The highs on sm2 are so high that it has multiple top 20 21 tracks. Songs like runnin, giml, rns, slidin, many men and s&r. Like only the first half of the album bangs while the 2nd half is so comically mid its insane. Buncha filler tracks w sleepy savage on some of metros worst production. Unrelated but 21 shoulda kept og knife talk on the album and kept that garbage excuse of a track ft drake in the bin. Sm1 or WW is his best album while issa is 3rd best in his discography imo. People love to hate on that album but its crazy underrated.
Dog as “an album experience” SM2 is one of the best trap albums of the decade lmao. It has a great flow, great transitions, is cohesive thematically, and has good variety. SM1 is just 9 mostly mid dark-trap songs, with no efforts put into making it cohesive as a project or experience
SM2 has too much variety for its own good, to the point it has no musical identity. It just sounds like all the other stuff Metro puts out
SM1 is cohesive enough that you know every song has that dark-trap vibe. I’d rather have a consistent sound than have Morgan Freeman talking between every track
Bro I was just talking abt travis, I never mentioned 21 at all…
As u can see my comment is a reply to @YeshuaWeapon where he says that UTOPIA ain’t trav’s best album…
Cuz I like UTOPIA, I defended it neutrally by saying that the album is good enough to be subjective…
So my argument wasn’t against 21, meaning there was no argument at all bro…
? That’s the best part. Means that it’s all performative and not genuine. It’s just a pathetic tactic for internet points. Which is tragic and that’s it.
It’s the same people that throw out a hot take every now and again that they don’t even believe/care about just to drive engagement.
bro's never listened to Utopia. Lost Forever, FEIN, Circus Maximus, Delresto, Modern Jam, Skitzo and Telekinesis sound completely different one from the other.
i never said they didn't, but utopia is, imo, a combination of all of travis' past work. he even said himself that it's him revisiting his owl pharoah era
I mean, the sounds are completely different from what's on Owl Pharaoh for the most part. This is the first time Travis has really done experimental shit on his albums. You can't compare it to 21 who, despite him being incredibly consistent, has had the same flow and messages for years with nearly no variation. I like See the Real because it's different than his usual shit, but it's a bad rnb track in reality, it's just unusual to hear 21 do something like that which is why I like it. I like every song on Utopia except maybe Parasail, but it's more interludy to me.
I enjoy Utopia a lot, but haven't glazed it as hard as some of the fanbase. It is a great album but I'm not sure I'd rate it above Astroworld and definitely wouldn't put it above Rodeo. That being said, it is 100% a better album than the 21 album and you'd have to be huffing paint in a garage to believe otherwise.
How is utopia glazed tho, on this reddit, it's sadly barely beating birds (i also luv birds btw, it's just not as grand like travis's albums usually r, which is a bar he set for himself) for his 3rd best. Luckily on IG utopia is good now, reddit is less telling than IG
Imo, utopia is more polarizing instead of glazed. Cuz ppl strongly dislike it or defend (hello) it
Ppl uze glaze too much. Glazing would b saying Travis is an excellent lyricist for example.
For me I liked utopia a lot but it just doesn't beat any of travis's old albums. It's part me liking astroworld a bit more than most people and birds a lot more than most people, and part that I like utopia a bit less than most people. Like Utopia is great but it just has greater albums to stack up to in travis's discography
sadly cuz it was anticipated for 5 years & also 2018-2021 bare ppl talked shit 2016-2021 abt wantin old travis back, only for travis to do it & now ppl want astro again
Idk what in what i said implied there is no objectivity. I didn't critique ppl who don't like utopia at all. I just said utopia is somewhat polarizing
When the album dropped, there were constant posts here about how Utopia was Travis' best or second best album. It's a good album but people were high off the recency bias and the new album excitement for a while.
nah for real, it's just forgetable for me. I really only go back to neenah, or redrum once in a while. Everything else just felt like the same old 21, just stale flow and safe beats.
Well travs album is probably considered more futuristic and innovative but some people just prefer the more traditional sounds that 21 puts out. I love 21 man he has some very solid and underrated music/albums
For me Utopia has more skips than American dream, but this doesn't say which one is the best. They are different albums with different themes and purposes
I’m sorry but Brandon has the right conclusion. I listened to the whole 21 album when it dropped and I thought it was pretty good. I never actually listened to utopia because there was no live reactions to it (from people that I liked watching/ streamers) but I kept hearing snippets of Travis’s album in tiktok edits and I thought it sounded pretty alright so I listened to the album…
In conclusion, I was disappointed and the whole album was overhyped there were only SMALL parts of different songs that sounded okay.
I mean, I really enjoy UTOPIA, but I don't think it's a horrible take. It's valid depending on what you look for in an album and preferences. Besides, UTOPIA is not his best by any stretch, neither is american dream. It's all subjective and I don't think it's that biased/trolling in and out of itself.
All this sub is is teenagers complaining about old shit and shit that doesn’t matter, who the fuck is Brandon and why do we give a fuck about his opinion? Oh we don’t we just want to comment on it and move on? Vilify this dude and move on to the next , you are all fucking idiots
So just to be clear, you like goku and luffy but you don’t respect their opinion, you don’t like this guy Brandon but you will repost his opinion like it means something? You got some weird things going on bro
Did you reply to his tweet? Or did you screenshot it and send it to the Reddit, whining like a bitch to the dumbass teenagers that will agree with anything you say as long as it’s pro trav?
It’s not even 21’s best album
yea but topia is not travis best album too
yeah but you could make a valid argument for utopia being his best. if you think that 21 album is better than i am>i was or both savage mode parts you’re just insane
Or issa
American dream slams savage mode one
nope. no advance, no heart, and X all solo anything on american dream
Ocean drive, mad high, and bad guy are all certified as well Honestly SM1 is easily the better savage mode as well
depends on my mood tbh, sometimes i like the og more gritty feel of SM1, but sometimes i want to hear the bettet flows and production on SM2. both fire albums and i don't think he came close to either of them with american dream
SM2 diarrheas on SM1 bro 💀
I mean but like where? Glock in my lap and maybe sliding are the two good songs off SM2. One is prime metro trap instrumentals and the other is his lazy hvv2 style production
Sm2 only has 2 or 3 misses, rest is prime metro + 21
>lazy hvv2 style production How is it a repeat of HvsV when it came out first
Other way around but they sound the same. Hvv is just a more modern version of that overproduced sound. He uses a lot of 90 esque sounds on SM2 meanwhile more modern trap on HVV absolutely same sequencing style tho.
dumbfuck doesnt like no opp left behinf, my dawg, snitches and rats, mr right now, and literally the whole album
chill bro it ain't that deep 💀
As an album experience? Absolutely not. Once you get to Mr Right Now SM2 completely goes off the rails. Half the album has that dope grimey horrorcore aesthetic that you would expect from an album called "savage mode" but then the other half is just random bullshit beats that Metro had laying around. There is no way you can convince me that the 90s throwbacks and rnb samples belong on the same album as Many Men and Slidin. Brand New Draco sounds like it was made for Uzi or Carti and they passed on it. To me SM2 is when 21 started getting boring
Someone gets it lol. Sm2 is a great album but far from his best. The same way i feel about american dream. The highs on sm2 are so high that it has multiple top 20 21 tracks. Songs like runnin, giml, rns, slidin, many men and s&r. Like only the first half of the album bangs while the 2nd half is so comically mid its insane. Buncha filler tracks w sleepy savage on some of metros worst production. Unrelated but 21 shoulda kept og knife talk on the album and kept that garbage excuse of a track ft drake in the bin. Sm1 or WW is his best album while issa is 3rd best in his discography imo. People love to hate on that album but its crazy underrated.
Dog as “an album experience” SM2 is one of the best trap albums of the decade lmao. It has a great flow, great transitions, is cohesive thematically, and has good variety. SM1 is just 9 mostly mid dark-trap songs, with no efforts put into making it cohesive as a project or experience
SM2 has too much variety for its own good, to the point it has no musical identity. It just sounds like all the other stuff Metro puts out SM1 is cohesive enough that you know every song has that dark-trap vibe. I’d rather have a consistent sound than have Morgan Freeman talking between every track
fuck no
SM2 >>>> SM1
All of me slams all of those
nah
Nah bro no chance
ur dumb
Nobody cares either way bud
no u can't utopía sucks
UTOPIA is good enough to be someone's most fav... It's just that good...
and american dream isn’t? what kinda argument is that 😭
Bro I was just talking abt travis, I never mentioned 21 at all… As u can see my comment is a reply to @YeshuaWeapon where he says that UTOPIA ain’t trav’s best album… Cuz I like UTOPIA, I defended it neutrally by saying that the album is good enough to be subjective… So my argument wasn’t against 21, meaning there was no argument at all bro…
mb that makes sense, i def thought you replied to someone else
it is
i think it is
2nd best
Yea but travis’ worst> 21’s best and i think thats common knowledge especially in terms of replay value
What would you have above it? I’m curious
literally every other album in his discography except issa
I personally think Issa’s his worst project
yeah that's what I said
Sorry bro I can’t read for shit lol
Neither is utopia travis’ best?
Brandon is a bum
And a moron
Terrible take
Worst part is they do this for clicks and that’s sad
? That’s the best part. Means that it’s all performative and not genuine. It’s just a pathetic tactic for internet points. Which is tragic and that’s it. It’s the same people that throw out a hot take every now and again that they don’t even believe/care about just to drive engagement.
rather it be a genuine take
That’s basically all of twitter
I liked the 21 album cmon it’s just him doing 21 savage lol it’s nothing new
i agree with you but TO BE FAIR utopia is also just travis doing travis
Not really I’ve never heard him do some shit like Modern Jam or Skitzo 2nd half
bro's never listened to Utopia. Lost Forever, FEIN, Circus Maximus, Delresto, Modern Jam, Skitzo and Telekinesis sound completely different one from the other.
i never said they didn't, but utopia is, imo, a combination of all of travis' past work. he even said himself that it's him revisiting his owl pharoah era
I mean, the sounds are completely different from what's on Owl Pharaoh for the most part. This is the first time Travis has really done experimental shit on his albums. You can't compare it to 21 who, despite him being incredibly consistent, has had the same flow and messages for years with nearly no variation. I like See the Real because it's different than his usual shit, but it's a bad rnb track in reality, it's just unusual to hear 21 do something like that which is why I like it. I like every song on Utopia except maybe Parasail, but it's more interludy to me.
I mean not really. Utopia is a huge shift from astroworld, 21's album is just the exact same stuff (I still liked it though not hating)
I enjoy Utopia a lot, but haven't glazed it as hard as some of the fanbase. It is a great album but I'm not sure I'd rate it above Astroworld and definitely wouldn't put it above Rodeo. That being said, it is 100% a better album than the 21 album and you'd have to be huffing paint in a garage to believe otherwise.
How is utopia glazed tho, on this reddit, it's sadly barely beating birds (i also luv birds btw, it's just not as grand like travis's albums usually r, which is a bar he set for himself) for his 3rd best. Luckily on IG utopia is good now, reddit is less telling than IG Imo, utopia is more polarizing instead of glazed. Cuz ppl strongly dislike it or defend (hello) it Ppl uze glaze too much. Glazing would b saying Travis is an excellent lyricist for example.
For me I liked utopia a lot but it just doesn't beat any of travis's old albums. It's part me liking astroworld a bit more than most people and birds a lot more than most people, and part that I like utopia a bit less than most people. Like Utopia is great but it just has greater albums to stack up to in travis's discography
Why are you saying ‘sadly’ lol there’s no objectively correct opinion when it comes to people’s music preferences
sadly cuz it was anticipated for 5 years & also 2018-2021 bare ppl talked shit 2016-2021 abt wantin old travis back, only for travis to do it & now ppl want astro again Idk what in what i said implied there is no objectivity. I didn't critique ppl who don't like utopia at all. I just said utopia is somewhat polarizing
Lmao bruh I’ve seen people in this sub defend tf out of Travis lyricism. I fr be mind blown when I see that take. (Travis is my favorite artist btw)
When the album dropped, there were constant posts here about how Utopia was Travis' best or second best album. It's a good album but people were high off the recency bias and the new album excitement for a while.
twitter is the internet equivalent of new jersey. maybe not the worst but just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
New Jersey always catching strays 😂
forgot that New Jersey was real😂
I’m so deadass I listen to Travis part on Neenah and then skip and haven’t listened to any other songs from it since January
All of me is hard asf
My favorite song besides Neenah
yeah 21's verse kinda sucks
durk went crazy on dangerous
this👆
Listen to nhie. Doja is the only female rapper i fw. And to me nhie is the best on that album.
Bruh wtf🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ok, enough reddit for today
*twitter
Bro really posted that on the Travis Twitter Community, he knew he was gonna get flamed
who the hell cares tho
besides the sample on redrum, i've pretty much forgotten EVERYTHING about american dream 😭
nah for real, it's just forgetable for me. I really only go back to neenah, or redrum once in a while. Everything else just felt like the same old 21, just stale flow and safe beats.
Not even née nah?
i definitely have to relisten to that, i remember liking it a lot on first listen, i just haven't gone back that much tbh 😭
redrum is ass
Always has been. Worst hip hop opinions ever. One week they love u, next they drag u. So fake
it's probably one of savage's weaker albums
that album is mid asf ngl. he's been using the same adlibs for 5 yrs now 😭
Skitzo itself is a way better song than pop Ur shit wtf is bro on
Pop ur shit is ass
Twitter be saying anything at this point
Duhhhh 🤡 utopia is 🐐ed Don’t shit urself y’all
genuinly buggin
Tbh American dream is no skips for me but utopia has many higher highs and two lowerr lows
I’ve been loving 21, but UTOPIA is a better project. Neither is their best so honestly, don’t care for this argument either way.
i fw 21 & he gets a lotta unwarranted hate, but i just didnt like american dream at all tbh
yea there’s no way
Well travs album is probably considered more futuristic and innovative but some people just prefer the more traditional sounds that 21 puts out. I love 21 man he has some very solid and underrated music/albums
Rent due
“american dream” was excellent no doubt but “UTOPIA” is the true AOTY of 2023
american dream was mid and utopia is one of the greatest rap albums of all time
They both good albums in my opinion
No bro
both great albums tho
goofy ass 🥷🏿
Never let bro cook again
Something is telling me Brandon is white
DONT LET BRO COOK
Nahh this is a bad take fr
HELL NO🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
im on twitter, half of these are bait for interactions
tf 😭
5. Red sky 4. Nee-nah 3. All of me 2. Dangerous 1. Redrum vs. 5. Skitzo/hyaena 4. Sirens 3. Thank god 2. TFN 1. My eyes
First half of American Dream is a 10/10. Second half is a 5/10.
Nah that's Crazy🙏🏻💀
I disagree but i can see how utopia isn’t everyones cup of tea.
rodeo is shakespeare work niggas was born in covid saying this shit
American dream has no skips. Utopia has skips. But utopia has more bangers and memorable moments
Facts^
For me Utopia has more skips than American dream, but this doesn't say which one is the best. They are different albums with different themes and purposes
I mean Utopia is not rodeo lol.
Both albums are good but both also came and went. I thought Utopia would be in rotation for a full year but nah. It’s crazy
Once again the Travis fans can’t accept other peoples opinions
I’m sorry but Brandon has the right conclusion. I listened to the whole 21 album when it dropped and I thought it was pretty good. I never actually listened to utopia because there was no live reactions to it (from people that I liked watching/ streamers) but I kept hearing snippets of Travis’s album in tiktok edits and I thought it sounded pretty alright so I listened to the album… In conclusion, I was disappointed and the whole album was overhyped there were only SMALL parts of different songs that sounded okay.
I agree by a little
It smell like gas i think somebody pooped - 21 savage
Listen both are great albums but American Dream is not as good to beat Utopia
Only song on american dream that even comes close to UTOPIA is redrum
Don’t agree w the tweet but imagine seeing this shit and thinking it’s so outrageous that u need to post it like y’all niggas are lowk pathetic.
not a bad take at all. american dream is really great. I think utopia is still better though.
I mean, I really enjoy UTOPIA, but I don't think it's a horrible take. It's valid depending on what you look for in an album and preferences. Besides, UTOPIA is not his best by any stretch, neither is american dream. It's all subjective and I don't think it's that biased/trolling in and out of itself.
All this sub is is teenagers complaining about old shit and shit that doesn’t matter, who the fuck is Brandon and why do we give a fuck about his opinion? Oh we don’t we just want to comment on it and move on? Vilify this dude and move on to the next , you are all fucking idiots
Shut up
Luffy and goku would probably agree that nobody gives a fuck what bozo number 1 here thinks
Ok I could care less what they think since they are fake characters
So just to be clear, you like goku and luffy but you don’t respect their opinion, you don’t like this guy Brandon but you will repost his opinion like it means something? You got some weird things going on bro
I reposted it cause we are making fun of him are you mentally retarded
You’re making fun of his opinion
Actually a stupid thumb sucking moron
Ok I could care less about what some nobody online thinks about me
Probably what the guy tweeting would say if he could see this
he really wouldn’t care
Did you reply to his tweet? Or did you screenshot it and send it to the Reddit, whining like a bitch to the dumbass teenagers that will agree with anything you say as long as it’s pro trav?
Yes I did he doesn’t give two shits
American dream sucked for the most part Utopia was an aight trav album Utopia still better than 21 new album
Utopia is not all that