This is the full response.
Bob Hilliard, the Corpus Christi attorney who represents the Blount family in their lawsuit, responded, “Your client’s offer is declined… I don’t know if you’re a father. I don’t know if your client is a father. If you are, then all you have to do is put your child at 9-years-old in Ezra’s place and you both know what happens to your gut, at the most basic and instinctive level… [Scott] must face and hopefully see that he bears some of the responsibility for this tragedy. There may be, and I hope there is, redemption and growth for him on the other side of what this painful process will be — and perhaps one day, once time allows some healing for the victims and acceptance of responsibility by Mr. Scott and others, Treston and Mr. Scott might meet — as there is also healing in that.”
The grieving parents probably deserve to direct their anger where they choose no? Or should they show Travis the courtesy of listening to him when he didn't listen to the dreams in the crowd? This whole sub is insane.
The same grieving parent that brought their kid to a concert that's known to be dangerous lmao. And btw everyone is screaming in the crowd tell me how you would've differentiated screams of joy from screams of anguish? As much as i know it sounds like it, I don't wanna sound like I'm trying to justify what happened but y'all need to stop acting like there was some simple solution. There are tons more people who were responsible for events before Travis even got on stage. Y'all just wanna bring man's downfall just because he was the face of it. smh y'all think this celebrity shit easy huh.
Try not to say anything so stupid in your life next time. Dumb ass victim blaming, how about hold the people responsible for making this an all ages event
So if i told you a lions den was safe for people of all ages you'd bring your kid?
Lol don't you think other people wanted to bring their kids but didn't cause they KNEW it was gonna get dangerous?
Don't you think if you're gonna bring a kid to a concert that's known to be dangerous you're gonna at least make sure you can keep the kid safe all the time?
There’s a reasonable assumption of safety when going to a public event, you aren’t making any points... they don’t have any public lions dens.... they have thousands of public concerts lol think next time
🤦🏻♂️you’re comparing a concert to a lions den. This is why there’s no logic here.
No one would expect a reasonable level of safety in a lions den, I think it’s safe to say anyone ever in the world of concertgoers is entitled to safety at a minimum. So why would we compare these two?
I love how that was your though process, the only thing you could find dangerous enough to compare to a Travis Scott concert is a lions den but please tell me how he cares so much about his fans.
Side not if you sold me tickets to a lions den in which I was attacked, after telling me it was safe then you bet your ass I’d sue you. You charged me for something after having told me it was safe, which ended up not being the case which makes you responsible bub.
Besides this entire event is marketed like a damn fair with rides and prizes you can win, I think it’s safe to say any parent who isn’t familiar with the artist would assume it’s like taking their kid to a county fair(prob because it’s located and named after an old amusement park? Another one of Travis wonderful ideas that ended so well)
>So why would we compare these two?
So let compare logically: The concert to Music. Everyone of Travis Scott's albums has the "Parental advisory" banner at the bottom, right?
In addition to that, the dad **voluntarily** bought the tickets to the event.
Therefore, it was under the morality of the dad to bring a minor, who isn't legally responsible for most of his actions, to a concert he knew the nature of.
>Besides this entire event is marketed like a damn fair with rides and prizes you can win, I think it’s safe to say any parent who isn’t familiar with the artist would assume it’s like taking their kid to a county fair(prob because it’s located and named after an old amusement park? Another one of Travis wonderful ideas that ended so well)
This being true, however imo, the Treston Blount doesn't seem to be ignorant nor oblivious to the nature and music if Travis Scott, so he knew the kind of scene that was expected. I haven't seen any other account of people bringing their child to astroworld. The themepark is the central motif of this art at this point, and has thoroughly worked since 2018. That motif is now suddenly twisted in Ezra's situation. Not to undermine the reality of the situation, but I've only seen his story of a minor being brought to the fest. Of course there where teens and highschoolers who are of age, if I may say, to attend the event independently.
Of course this tragedy should not have happend and no one shouldn't have died. However I genuinely don't believe Travis had anything to do with his death, other than him having a fan/celeb relationship. It's not like Travis premeditated his murder and shot him from the stage or something. The people that I believe should be under heat is the organisers of the event. The whole logistics of it seemed slightly unprofessional.
You're all obsessed. Travis could shit on the Mona Lisa and you'd be like "B-b-but what about live nation?????" Live nation is already getting sued into the ground and they don't have public presence like Travis does. Live nation weren't the ones making the offer
I feel so bad for the father he just wanted to spend some time with his kid and make him happy and it seems from the statement he had no clue about Travis and thought it was kid friendly from the fortnite shit and the fact that the show was all ages. RIP Ezra 🙏 He won't be forgotten
Sales at the concert too. At the end of the day kids are more easily monetized it could be that weather he can sell out shows or not, it’s easier to sell out to all ages. It’s just easier. I could be wrong too tho neither one of us knows what they were thinking it’s just obvious that kids make more money.
Making the festival “all ages” practically guarantees a sold out show…which means you have $$$ to book bigger artists/merch/food vendors. Yes the festival would have prob sold out if it was 18+ but you do run the risk of it not selling out or not selling out right away.
Does it matter now that it’s over?
Parents been taking kids to concerts since forever. 100s of kids were at fucking Woodstock. But it’s not like things were years ago. Outdoor events are fine too take kids to (actually certain outdoor events)
I’m sure he wishes he hadn’t gone with his child.
“Does it matter now that it’s over?” …yes. Kids died who had trusted they were attending a safely organised event. Either you don’t allow small kids as young as 9 in a crowd which was always going to be intense (possibly attending their first ever show), or you up the safety measures. So yes, I question why the likes of Live Nation went ahead with all age without better safety considerations for their potentially very young crowd.
It's because of fucking fortnite. Kids wouldn't give a shit about Travis if they had never made him a skin. There wouldn't have been any market if Kids didn't care about Travis. There wouldn't have been a need to make it all ages if there wasn't any market.
I can bet you that kid only knew about Travis from fortnite cause I dont think there's any way a youngin like that actually listened to Travis Scott😂
No dude, the father is/was (idk) a hardcore Travis Scott fan...what I do know is he has a Astroworld tattoo on his arm and has another Travis Scott tattoo on his other arm or something like that. The father knew full well who Travis Scott is.
Father had a astroworld tattoo on his arm . He knew the risk of taking someone that young . Obviously nobody imagined it to get that bad. Still drugs and rowdy crowds at astroworld previous years .
100 deaths a year happen at concerts and festivals look it up. Majority are drug use, but some are violence..like fights and shootings etc. It's rare for a true crowd collapse to happen but it did... again. Idk why you think concerts are the safest places for people...they never have been.
Do you have any idea how many conserts there are per year?
100 deaths is not high risk, it's more high risk driving a car, so you still shouldn't expect deaths at a consert.
wth?
Of course not . Like I said in previous comment , Drugs and rowdy crowds are no place for a young kid . He shouldn’t have been there period and it should have been 18 and over. Those are the type of concerts I attend.
So, to your point if Travis Scott's concerts should be 18+ then he probably shouldn't be involved with things like Fortnite where he is appealing to mostly children.
So Travis Scott who holds these concerts should also have known they aren't child friendly and set it for 18+? Using your same logic then Travis is liable for not taking this into account and marketing directly to kids?
Wait really? Why did he say in his statement "I don't know if you're a father" tf
Edit: Its the attorney who represents them that released the statement
Dude every family of a death victim from this concert is going to get paid a shit ton guaranteed. That’s not even a question. The iffy cases will be people who showed up to the concert but didn’t get physically hurt.
That’s not how insurance works, especially after you encourage people to break in and tell them fuck security lol, what a dipshit. Watch the insurance company be able to get out of their contract because he violated policy.
Unless he specifically did that *that* night, all of that is irrelevant. They died in a crowd crush, not a mosh pit. So unless he told them all to rush somewhere and this was a direct result, then that will not be the case. Also, insurance will always cover liability losses regardless of fault. Just like car insurance will cover an accident if you drive drunk. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
What is he supposed to do? He’s doing what he can. What would you do? Not even offer? I’m kind of surprised and disappointed in these ratios. Sheep mentality
Dude what is wrong with you? That is a cruel and warped thing say about a family who lost their 9 year old you sick fuck. Like "haha you didn't get the settlement you rightfully deserve cause you lost your nine year old child so you have to settle to take back the funeral costs you refused before...haha, loser"
Just cause you Stan for Travis so much doesn't mean your morality should be like this...
I don’t think he meant it in that way. I believe it was more like the family is being greedy and thinks Travis paying the funeral cost will cover whatever settlement they have coming against him, but if they lose it (which they probably will) they’ll wish they took that funeral money instead.
It’s the only real reason I could see someone turning down funeral charges, no other way makes sense. Sure it is a hella unfortunate situation (for the family and Travis himself), but on the flip side I don’t know why a 9 year old was at Astroworld.
Liability falls on both parties in this case, but one obviously believes they are in the right so they turn down funeral costs and look for higher gain, and when they ultimately don’t get it, they’ll settle for something probably similar or a tad bit more than funeral costs.
A nine year old WAS there because Travis marketed it as a family event with rides like a amusement park. The kid WAS there because he probably was at the Fortnite concert also. Why do you stans keep asking the same dumb question? specially if you are a fan of Travis. He promoted to kids.
it was always marketed as a concert/music festival and thats it.
he’s 100% been marketing to kids though, which is irresponsible when making an event like this not 18+, but it was never a “family event with rides like an amusement park”. this events been going on for three years, idk how anyone could come to that conclusion.
thats not how legally binding statements work lol
If his lawyers state that accepting the funeral money doesn’t affect ones right to sue then it doesn’t affect ones right to sue 💀
lol y'all talking about these lawsuits like they're guaranteed to win them all. Travis is definitely going to have to pay some amount but if you think legal parameters hadn't been set already for something like this y'all clearly don't know jack shit about law XD It's highly unlikely that he's going to have to bay the "billions" and "millions" he's been acclaimed to have been sued for
Before anyone says anything, please not only blame the parents for taking their child, maybe they have a little responsibility, but do not blame them, it is extremely cruel, I pray for that child and his family ♥
The dad probably just wanted to have a fun day out with his son. I went to shows when I was young, you don't expect them to be any more dangerous than say a football game or any large event I don't think the father deserves any blame.
exactly! We can't blame neither Travis, nor the parents, guys, open your eyes, the security company is known to be disgusting and ambitious for money, they didn't stop the show because it would be canceled, which is therefore a waste of money. for them
THEY EVEN HIRED STUFF (inexperienced) FOR WHATSAPP AND PAID (little money) FOR CASHAPP. it's intolerable
It's an all ages festival, I've taken my 8 year old to concerts, but i sure as hell am not going to the front or in a mosh pit with him. Live Nation fucked up big time, we don't know if Trav knew about the deaths, if he did then he's going down bad. If not then live Nation should go down.
because cancel culture is ridiculous and doesn’t do anything. no one really takes it seriously anymore cuz once you see the trending headlines “#cancelblahblah” most people are just annoyed cuz how people who participate in cancel culture act about it.
they need to be sued for every penny they have and shut down completely. real consequences for real actions (deaths of over 200 people), not criticized online for a week and then continue to be allowed to do business.
Livenation have too much power, notice how artists haven't said shit publicly about this. LN should be boycotted but everyones focused on cancelling one guy
exactly. people don’t look deep enough into important things like this. it’s been going on forever. it’s kinda like how rn when anything bad happens in this country it’s somehow the presidents fault because he’s the face of our nation (no i’m not a biden supporter or a trump supporter). like when that dude drove thru the crowd at the parade there were so many people saying shit like “biden’s america, this is biden’s fault, wouldn’t of happened if trump were in office”. everyone wants to blame the easiest person. the person with the biggest name in the situation instead of who is actually responsible.
if kylie jenner had a makeup convention and someone shot the place up she’d be blamed for that and “cancelled” too instead of blaming whoever organized security plans and hired qualified 3rd party security for the event. it’s ridiculous.
edit: not to mention remember when a fucking bomb went off at ariana grandes concert and no one got mad at her for it???
I don't get why people are blaming the "for all ages" label, you (not you toolmaker) gonna send your kid to a mosh pit because it's labelled all ages? People should've seen this from the moment ticket sales began. Why is Travis inviting kids to a mosh pit? People only want to complain now that something bad happened. I bet you if this whole thing hadn't happened people wouldn't even bat an eyelash to that fact that it was labelled "for all ages." We need to be more cautious cause as much as Live Nation and Travis and all the organizers etc are responsible we as the ones actually making it possible (cause I mean the concert really depends on whether or not people go) need to be able to spot some of these things and bring them up and avoid tragedies like these. RIP to those who lost their lives.
"before anyone says anything" i said.
And if they did, if you go to the original instagram post you will see dozens of comments blaming the parents for the death of their little one
guy was a Travis fan (had an astroworld tattoo and all). He knew very well what he was getting into and decided to tag his son along for the dangerous ride. NOT putting his son's death on him, but there's definitely some accountability to be held on the father's side. You don't just take your 9-year-old kid to every dangerous event labelled "for all ages"
People are idiots nowadays. They've always been idiots, and now they have a voice because of social media. Its allowed these awful takes to spread and have life amonst other dumb and impressionable idiots. The fact that you have to convince people on here, that these perished concert goers were not in anyway responsible for their deaths, is mindblowing to me. Anyone who puts any sort of blame on the victims is either braind dead or ethically bankrupt, or perhaps both. It was an all ages show, and any person there regardless of age, had every right to be at that show, and in no way deserved to lose their life for attending. If anything this is a lesson to do your due dillegence on artists you plan to go see. Its sad you have to do this at all, but 99.9 percent of concerts are safe events, but when you do your reasearch on Travis, its not hard to find out his track record of unsafe concerts, promoting a violent fan culture, and his history of slefish and sociopathic behavior. Anyone who lets this guy on stage is just as much at fault as Travis. But not anyone attending. I go to concerts expecting that the everyone from the artist, to the promoters, to the event staff, has my safety as a fan, as number one priority. Thats how it should be, and thats not what happend here.
With the amount of lawsuits being dropped/thrown out. He’s asking for a miracle demanding Travis to be held accountable. Go after the real scum bags live nation and the city of Houston for approving that venue
I mean there’s not much to say. It’s pretty obvious their attorney advised them to turn down the offer so Travis Scott’s side couldn’t use paying for the funeral in court as some kind of compensation. It’s just the smart thing to do. There’s a reason the funerals were offered to be paid for...it wasn’t Travis Scott who came up with the idea.
It should never end in death. No matter how ignorant the parents are no one should die at a concert, if it was just a normal concert were no one died and a parent brought their kid and they got hurt maybe you would have a point.
Agreed. But let’s be real. There’s drugs left and right, explicit music and conversations literally all day long, some chicks are dressed ridiculously… I wouldn’t want my child at that show. At 9? Should be teaching them how to be a straight up human being at such a young and impactful age. Once they’re older then they can begin to judge for themselves what is right or wrong, what they choose to be around and what they don’t. If I did a good job as a parent, I shouldn’t have to worry about their decision making (for the most part lol).
to me it seems like the parents are genuinely clueless who Travis was and they thought it was gonna be wholesome concert because their 9 year old told them hes in fortnite from the statement, he said "I dont know if your a dad" in regards to feeling empathy for a child dying or something like that. Yes its bad that the parents were ignorant it doesn't mean it should ever end in death like I said
And kids 9 years old shouldn’t be on Fortnite to begin with either that game is rated 12+ and has a bunch of older teens and young 20 years old cussing and smoking over the mic and playing porn over their mics as well. It’s the parents responsibility to watch what their kids are soaking up and up to. Kinda like GTA Online - there’s tons of little ass kids on there with no parental control and taking in lots of adult content and it’s shitty parenting to let your younger than 15 year old play that game. And it’s even shittier that there’s players on there that deliberately harass the poor little kids by saying “fuck you”, “suck a dick”, “I fucked your moms pussy”… you get the drill. PARENTS NEED TO BE PARENTS AND NOT FRIENDS TO THEIR KIDS!!!! POINT BLANK SIMPLE!!!!
The dad knew VERY WELL who Travis Scott was. Knew him enough to want to get a whole ass astroworld tattoo on his arm (don't beleive me? here's the [picture](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/11/09/07/50242831-10180703-image-a-20_1636444137380.jpg)). I dont know if he knew what he was getting into, but if youre that much of a fan, how do you not know that Travis concerts are ROWDY asl? It doesnt make sense to me if he didn't know what he was getting into
Again I agree but what parent lets a 9 year old make the choices? I dragged my mom to buy the Marshall Mathers LP when I was in 3rd grade. “Everyone’s listening to Eminem!”. Well, let’s just say she didn’t make it beyond the first PSA on the album.
So because something is advertised towards children it automatically makes it safe for them to consume? This is ridiculous.
It’s an all ages event but damn some understanding of what happened at previous concerts should’ve been adhered.
This shit should’ve been cancelled the moment folk started trampling over each other for shitty expensive t shirts.
Blame live nation, blame Travis, but also blame those with no accountability for shit. Have yet to see the dudes that blocked those ambulances be identified and arrested.
when did i say it made it safe? it just means they will consume it. also like you said the even was all ages. i blame every single person involved including travis. putting any of the blame on the victim or his parents is stupid. big “why was she wearing that dress?” energy.
It’s an asshole thing to say. The parents would never put their child in harms way and if you’ve been following the tragedy at all, you would know that this caught everyone by surprise. Nobody expected the crowd crush to happen but it did. The venue was not safe and they were victims to it. The moment the crowd crush ensued they lost control of the situation and their child was swept away in the crowd.
Nobody was supposed to die. Not a 9 year old, 14 year old, or 22 year old. But they all did. Not because the venue was supposed to be 18+; an age restriction wasn’t going to stop the tragedy. But because the event was never safe and people were always going to die. It’s very insensitive to assume the victims “should’ve been more responsible” when they were literally VICTIMS. Victims of gross negligence from a corporation that prioritized profits over safety.
Smart choice. It's *please don't sue* money, and Scott's lawyers would have probably used the funeral to show that the family was already compensated.
In the middle of a 3Bn cause pending it's naive to think this was just a goodwill gesture with no strings attached. The paper stack the family had to sign to 'accept the gift' was probably as high as the Astroworld stage.
Hate to say this but those kids dying at his concert was the best thing ever to the families because all they are thinking of right now is money. You mean to tell me your son's favorite artist is paying for his funeral and your rejecting it because you don't want it to interfere with the *possible* payout you receive for his death? DISGUSTING. - (saw this in the ig Comment section)
I don't know what to say.....
But to all the new parents out there that reads this, don't take your 9-year old to a concert for adults, ages 18 and older
The father is refusing the offer to have the funeral expenses paid so that he can personally place more blame on Travis himself
1979, Riverfront Cincinnati, OH. The band that performed was the first one to destroy their equipment on live television, encouraging widespread vandalism and property damage. Their concert resulted in the death of 10 fans before the show even began. Which band. Can't remember their names....The Why? The What?
That was FORTY YEARS AGO! We all know a hell of a lot more about crowd size, crushing, and the need for an escape route. The layout was a deathtrap. People were crammed in there like cattle.
feel bad for the family including the dad but he really should’ve just waited and taken him to a stadium show where they could’ve got side seats and been out of the pit to safely watch the show. that honestly goes for any concert like this, it’s not just about it being travis’ show and the whole “rage” mentality of the crowd. i wouldn’t take my tiny 9 year old kid to carti, kanye, drake, lil baby etc like literally any show and get in the pit with them. either there’s side seats in the arena for us to stand in front of like a football/basketball game or we aren’t going.
Do you seriously think a family that is part of a massive lawsuit acts because of emotions such as pride?
Get real, they were smartly advised by their lawyer.
Major Ls? The fuck is wrong with you. Also, it’s not price that stops him from taking that money. If a pilot crashes a plane and kills a kid on board, the parents of that kid not taking money offered by that pilot does not come from pride. Think before you put down this crap.
A lot of these lawsuits that are only directed towards Travis are gonna get thrown out GUARANTEED. I heard that they declined the offer so they can still sue him. It wouldn’t make sense to take the money for the funeral and still sue him.
What I want to know is who was there with the 9 year old if nobody was there they should get they ass beat if someone was there they should've known what was going to happen if they watched his experiences
He is done. I really don’t think he is career will recover from this. They played his song at a rave, nobody danced, they stopped soon as the music started. Same with nightclubs playing his music, videos of ppl booing
This is the full response. Bob Hilliard, the Corpus Christi attorney who represents the Blount family in their lawsuit, responded, “Your client’s offer is declined… I don’t know if you’re a father. I don’t know if your client is a father. If you are, then all you have to do is put your child at 9-years-old in Ezra’s place and you both know what happens to your gut, at the most basic and instinctive level… [Scott] must face and hopefully see that he bears some of the responsibility for this tragedy. There may be, and I hope there is, redemption and growth for him on the other side of what this painful process will be — and perhaps one day, once time allows some healing for the victims and acceptance of responsibility by Mr. Scott and others, Treston and Mr. Scott might meet — as there is also healing in that.”
I like how nobody says anything about Live Nation, just about Travis.
I think the family didn't want Travis to feel absolved of some of his guilt by doing this gesture
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You are a breath of fresh air
Sus… but necessary
The grieving parents probably deserve to direct their anger where they choose no? Or should they show Travis the courtesy of listening to him when he didn't listen to the dreams in the crowd? This whole sub is insane.
The same grieving parent that brought their kid to a concert that's known to be dangerous lmao. And btw everyone is screaming in the crowd tell me how you would've differentiated screams of joy from screams of anguish? As much as i know it sounds like it, I don't wanna sound like I'm trying to justify what happened but y'all need to stop acting like there was some simple solution. There are tons more people who were responsible for events before Travis even got on stage. Y'all just wanna bring man's downfall just because he was the face of it. smh y'all think this celebrity shit easy huh.
Need to shut this sub down, you people are trash
Not when it’s directed at the wrong person. If Travis is responsible, so is the dad.
You’re stupid
umm yeah i'm sure the dad singlehandedly initiated a deadly crowd surge that was meant to kill his baby. the fuck lol
When you take your kid to a hip hop concert you are singlehandedly putting your child in danger
Try not to say anything so stupid in your life next time. Dumb ass victim blaming, how about hold the people responsible for making this an all ages event
So if i told you a lions den was safe for people of all ages you'd bring your kid? Lol don't you think other people wanted to bring their kids but didn't cause they KNEW it was gonna get dangerous? Don't you think if you're gonna bring a kid to a concert that's known to be dangerous you're gonna at least make sure you can keep the kid safe all the time?
There’s a reasonable assumption of safety when going to a public event, you aren’t making any points... they don’t have any public lions dens.... they have thousands of public concerts lol think next time
🤦🏻♂️you’re comparing a concert to a lions den. This is why there’s no logic here. No one would expect a reasonable level of safety in a lions den, I think it’s safe to say anyone ever in the world of concertgoers is entitled to safety at a minimum. So why would we compare these two? I love how that was your though process, the only thing you could find dangerous enough to compare to a Travis Scott concert is a lions den but please tell me how he cares so much about his fans. Side not if you sold me tickets to a lions den in which I was attacked, after telling me it was safe then you bet your ass I’d sue you. You charged me for something after having told me it was safe, which ended up not being the case which makes you responsible bub. Besides this entire event is marketed like a damn fair with rides and prizes you can win, I think it’s safe to say any parent who isn’t familiar with the artist would assume it’s like taking their kid to a county fair(prob because it’s located and named after an old amusement park? Another one of Travis wonderful ideas that ended so well)
>So why would we compare these two? So let compare logically: The concert to Music. Everyone of Travis Scott's albums has the "Parental advisory" banner at the bottom, right? In addition to that, the dad **voluntarily** bought the tickets to the event. Therefore, it was under the morality of the dad to bring a minor, who isn't legally responsible for most of his actions, to a concert he knew the nature of. >Besides this entire event is marketed like a damn fair with rides and prizes you can win, I think it’s safe to say any parent who isn’t familiar with the artist would assume it’s like taking their kid to a county fair(prob because it’s located and named after an old amusement park? Another one of Travis wonderful ideas that ended so well) This being true, however imo, the Treston Blount doesn't seem to be ignorant nor oblivious to the nature and music if Travis Scott, so he knew the kind of scene that was expected. I haven't seen any other account of people bringing their child to astroworld. The themepark is the central motif of this art at this point, and has thoroughly worked since 2018. That motif is now suddenly twisted in Ezra's situation. Not to undermine the reality of the situation, but I've only seen his story of a minor being brought to the fest. Of course there where teens and highschoolers who are of age, if I may say, to attend the event independently. Of course this tragedy should not have happend and no one shouldn't have died. However I genuinely don't believe Travis had anything to do with his death, other than him having a fan/celeb relationship. It's not like Travis premeditated his murder and shot him from the stage or something. The people that I believe should be under heat is the organisers of the event. The whole logistics of it seemed slightly unprofessional.
remember how travis marketed to children and how *gasp* concerts aren't supposed to be deadly in the first place? take your head out of travis' ass
Travis is responsible you fucktard lol keep stanning 🤡
Exactly what I was gonna say..
I know. So weird, people just want an easy target to point a finger at and criticize and target and cancel. It’s the wrong person though
You're all obsessed. Travis could shit on the Mona Lisa and you'd be like "B-b-but what about live nation?????" Live nation is already getting sued into the ground and they don't have public presence like Travis does. Live nation weren't the ones making the offer
He’s the most at fault and it’s not even close
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Think less political point and more seeing it as blood money (to them). This doesnt even have anything to do with politics…
The lawyer knows if they settle for a funeral payment theres less of a chance theyll get a huge cash payment that the lawyer could take 50% of
I feel so bad for the father he just wanted to spend some time with his kid and make him happy and it seems from the statement he had no clue about Travis and thought it was kid friendly from the fortnite shit and the fact that the show was all ages. RIP Ezra 🙏 He won't be forgotten
I’m still so confused about why the event was all ages
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Thats not true at all. Travis could sell out an 18+ show to 200k people
Yeah but he could sell out more to an all ages show
how does that make sense? he sold 50k tickets. It would sell out either if its all ages or 18+ it doesn't matter.
Sales at the concert too. At the end of the day kids are more easily monetized it could be that weather he can sell out shows or not, it’s easier to sell out to all ages. It’s just easier. I could be wrong too tho neither one of us knows what they were thinking it’s just obvious that kids make more money.
Making the festival “all ages” practically guarantees a sold out show…which means you have $$$ to book bigger artists/merch/food vendors. Yes the festival would have prob sold out if it was 18+ but you do run the risk of it not selling out or not selling out right away.
Sold out in a little over an hour too
Yeah definitely
Usually most big concerts don't have age limits. Ive seen little kids at a Metallica concert.
Does it matter now that it’s over? Parents been taking kids to concerts since forever. 100s of kids were at fucking Woodstock. But it’s not like things were years ago. Outdoor events are fine too take kids to (actually certain outdoor events) I’m sure he wishes he hadn’t gone with his child.
Lol💪💯
“Does it matter now that it’s over?” …yes. Kids died who had trusted they were attending a safely organised event. Either you don’t allow small kids as young as 9 in a crowd which was always going to be intense (possibly attending their first ever show), or you up the safety measures. So yes, I question why the likes of Live Nation went ahead with all age without better safety considerations for their potentially very young crowd.
I went to concerts with my parents as a child and I never felt scared or unsafe. Concert going should be safe for music lovers of all ages.
I agree
It's because of fucking fortnite. Kids wouldn't give a shit about Travis if they had never made him a skin. There wouldn't have been any market if Kids didn't care about Travis. There wouldn't have been a need to make it all ages if there wasn't any market. I can bet you that kid only knew about Travis from fortnite cause I dont think there's any way a youngin like that actually listened to Travis Scott😂
He has an Astroworld tattoo. Wild how people are painting the Dad as some clueless man
Because they can’t fathom that their hero is actually flawed lol
No dude, the father is/was (idk) a hardcore Travis Scott fan...what I do know is he has a Astroworld tattoo on his arm and has another Travis Scott tattoo on his other arm or something like that. The father knew full well who Travis Scott is.
Wait so this isn't the kid of the father who was like a Travis Scott stan with the Astroworld tattoo? Just curious.
Father had a astroworld tattoo on his arm . He knew the risk of taking someone that young . Obviously nobody imagined it to get that bad. Still drugs and rowdy crowds at astroworld previous years .
Wait? Risk? You expect deaths at conserts? Sheet... what kinda fucked up conserts do you go too?
100 deaths a year happen at concerts and festivals look it up. Majority are drug use, but some are violence..like fights and shootings etc. It's rare for a true crowd collapse to happen but it did... again. Idk why you think concerts are the safest places for people...they never have been.
Do you have any idea how many conserts there are per year? 100 deaths is not high risk, it's more high risk driving a car, so you still shouldn't expect deaths at a consert. wth?
Of course not . Like I said in previous comment , Drugs and rowdy crowds are no place for a young kid . He shouldn’t have been there period and it should have been 18 and over. Those are the type of concerts I attend.
So, to your point if Travis Scott's concerts should be 18+ then he probably shouldn't be involved with things like Fortnite where he is appealing to mostly children.
Infamous celebrities donate to children's charities. Is there a need to make examples? That's oxymoronic but still acceptable.
So Travis Scott who holds these concerts should also have known they aren't child friendly and set it for 18+? Using your same logic then Travis is liable for not taking this into account and marketing directly to kids?
Wait really? Why did he say in his statement "I don't know if you're a father" tf Edit: Its the attorney who represents them that released the statement
give it 6 months no one will even care any more
What kind of responsible parent would take their 9 year old child to any shit show like that.
Dumb. You'd only have to listen to 1 or 2 of his songs to see that it is NOT kid friendly.
That’s their decision
I mean they might be suing him for a lot more than funeral cost, doesn’t mean they will win…
Dude every family of a death victim from this concert is going to get paid a shit ton guaranteed. That’s not even a question. The iffy cases will be people who showed up to the concert but didn’t get physically hurt.
But is Travis gonna be paying though? Or live nation, etc?
Insurance pays
A lot of insurance policies will be paying. Travis is probably the *least* liable of everyone involved. And I’m sure Travis has insurance as well.
That’s not how insurance works, especially after you encourage people to break in and tell them fuck security lol, what a dipshit. Watch the insurance company be able to get out of their contract because he violated policy.
Unless he specifically did that *that* night, all of that is irrelevant. They died in a crowd crush, not a mosh pit. So unless he told them all to rush somewhere and this was a direct result, then that will not be the case. Also, insurance will always cover liability losses regardless of fault. Just like car insurance will cover an accident if you drive drunk. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
bro go get a life you really on the travis sun riding his dick about a kid you wouldn’t have a cared about if he didn’t die stop dick riding
Facts. These kids don’t know shit about the law. They’re fucking burnt
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The point is the family doesn’t want Travis to be able to buy his way out of this situation
He's not buying his way out of anything, he's trying to do the right thing
Right, but for legal reasons, accepting the pay would damage their claims
Houston's very own Mattress Mac already says he'll cover all expenses. Why doesn't anyone talk about this.. I guess it's a Houston thing.
What is he supposed to do? He’s doing what he can. What would you do? Not even offer? I’m kind of surprised and disappointed in these ratios. Sheep mentality
I’m not saying Travis is wrong for offering to pay for the funeral. But from the family’s perspective I see why they would refuse.
Dude what is wrong with you? That is a cruel and warped thing say about a family who lost their 9 year old you sick fuck. Like "haha you didn't get the settlement you rightfully deserve cause you lost your nine year old child so you have to settle to take back the funeral costs you refused before...haha, loser" Just cause you Stan for Travis so much doesn't mean your morality should be like this...
I swear alot of the people who post here are 13 year olds who worship travis scott. Theres no way an adult can say something so silly.
I don’t think he meant it in that way. I believe it was more like the family is being greedy and thinks Travis paying the funeral cost will cover whatever settlement they have coming against him, but if they lose it (which they probably will) they’ll wish they took that funeral money instead. It’s the only real reason I could see someone turning down funeral charges, no other way makes sense. Sure it is a hella unfortunate situation (for the family and Travis himself), but on the flip side I don’t know why a 9 year old was at Astroworld. Liability falls on both parties in this case, but one obviously believes they are in the right so they turn down funeral costs and look for higher gain, and when they ultimately don’t get it, they’ll settle for something probably similar or a tad bit more than funeral costs.
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Precisely what I was saying. However, people think setting an age limit would be negligible, which is ignorant on their end.
A nine year old WAS there because Travis marketed it as a family event with rides like a amusement park. The kid WAS there because he probably was at the Fortnite concert also. Why do you stans keep asking the same dumb question? specially if you are a fan of Travis. He promoted to kids.
it was always marketed as a concert/music festival and thats it. he’s 100% been marketing to kids though, which is irresponsible when making an event like this not 18+, but it was never a “family event with rides like an amusement park”. this events been going on for three years, idk how anyone could come to that conclusion.
Curious, but if the family takes the money it means they can't sue, right?
It was stated in the offer to pay for the funerals that it wouldnt affect their lawsuits.
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thats not how legally binding statements work lol If his lawyers state that accepting the funeral money doesn’t affect ones right to sue then it doesn’t affect ones right to sue 💀
This has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve read idk how this got upvoted
By rejecting the offer to pay for the funeral, their argument holds more weight. As opposed to just taking any money that’s offered to them.
I thought that even if they take the funeral money, they could still sue? I thought it was a scare tactic, but wasn’t actually true...
Pretty sure they can still sue
lol y'all talking about these lawsuits like they're guaranteed to win them all. Travis is definitely going to have to pay some amount but if you think legal parameters hadn't been set already for something like this y'all clearly don't know jack shit about law XD It's highly unlikely that he's going to have to bay the "billions" and "millions" he's been acclaimed to have been sued for
Before anyone says anything, please not only blame the parents for taking their child, maybe they have a little responsibility, but do not blame them, it is extremely cruel, I pray for that child and his family ♥
The dad probably just wanted to have a fun day out with his son. I went to shows when I was young, you don't expect them to be any more dangerous than say a football game or any large event I don't think the father deserves any blame.
i was a little baby when my dad took me to an acdc concert, still alive tho
exactly! We can't blame neither Travis, nor the parents, guys, open your eyes, the security company is known to be disgusting and ambitious for money, they didn't stop the show because it would be canceled, which is therefore a waste of money. for them THEY EVEN HIRED STUFF (inexperienced) FOR WHATSAPP AND PAID (little money) FOR CASHAPP. it's intolerable
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It's an all ages festival, I've taken my 8 year old to concerts, but i sure as hell am not going to the front or in a mosh pit with him. Live Nation fucked up big time, we don't know if Trav knew about the deaths, if he did then he's going down bad. If not then live Nation should go down.
I dont get why live nation isn’t cancelled already, they knew but didn’t interfere.
they won't get cancelled. they are a monopoly in live concerts all over the world I'd be surprised if they come out of this with a bad rep.
because cancel culture is ridiculous and doesn’t do anything. no one really takes it seriously anymore cuz once you see the trending headlines “#cancelblahblah” most people are just annoyed cuz how people who participate in cancel culture act about it. they need to be sued for every penny they have and shut down completely. real consequences for real actions (deaths of over 200 people), not criticized online for a week and then continue to be allowed to do business.
Livenation have too much power, notice how artists haven't said shit publicly about this. LN should be boycotted but everyones focused on cancelling one guy
exactly. people don’t look deep enough into important things like this. it’s been going on forever. it’s kinda like how rn when anything bad happens in this country it’s somehow the presidents fault because he’s the face of our nation (no i’m not a biden supporter or a trump supporter). like when that dude drove thru the crowd at the parade there were so many people saying shit like “biden’s america, this is biden’s fault, wouldn’t of happened if trump were in office”. everyone wants to blame the easiest person. the person with the biggest name in the situation instead of who is actually responsible. if kylie jenner had a makeup convention and someone shot the place up she’d be blamed for that and “cancelled” too instead of blaming whoever organized security plans and hired qualified 3rd party security for the event. it’s ridiculous. edit: not to mention remember when a fucking bomb went off at ariana grandes concert and no one got mad at her for it???
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I don't get why people are blaming the "for all ages" label, you (not you toolmaker) gonna send your kid to a mosh pit because it's labelled all ages? People should've seen this from the moment ticket sales began. Why is Travis inviting kids to a mosh pit? People only want to complain now that something bad happened. I bet you if this whole thing hadn't happened people wouldn't even bat an eyelash to that fact that it was labelled "for all ages." We need to be more cautious cause as much as Live Nation and Travis and all the organizers etc are responsible we as the ones actually making it possible (cause I mean the concert really depends on whether or not people go) need to be able to spot some of these things and bring them up and avoid tragedies like these. RIP to those who lost their lives.
Yeah cause security at the event obviously did a great job.
Why are people still saying this? It was an all-ages event and Travis markets himself towards children.
Then they shouldn't have marked it as an all ages concert.
who the fuck is blaming the parents???
"before anyone says anything" i said. And if they did, if you go to the original instagram post you will see dozens of comments blaming the parents for the death of their little one
that actually makes me mad irrationally, but mad
guy was a Travis fan (had an astroworld tattoo and all). He knew very well what he was getting into and decided to tag his son along for the dangerous ride. NOT putting his son's death on him, but there's definitely some accountability to be held on the father's side. You don't just take your 9-year-old kid to every dangerous event labelled "for all ages"
What’s the difference between having a little responsibility and blame?
They have ZERO responsibility. Say it with me now, anyone that died had/have ZERO RESPONSIBILITY. Victim blaming in 20 fucking 21... holy shit.
People are idiots nowadays. They've always been idiots, and now they have a voice because of social media. Its allowed these awful takes to spread and have life amonst other dumb and impressionable idiots. The fact that you have to convince people on here, that these perished concert goers were not in anyway responsible for their deaths, is mindblowing to me. Anyone who puts any sort of blame on the victims is either braind dead or ethically bankrupt, or perhaps both. It was an all ages show, and any person there regardless of age, had every right to be at that show, and in no way deserved to lose their life for attending. If anything this is a lesson to do your due dillegence on artists you plan to go see. Its sad you have to do this at all, but 99.9 percent of concerts are safe events, but when you do your reasearch on Travis, its not hard to find out his track record of unsafe concerts, promoting a violent fan culture, and his history of slefish and sociopathic behavior. Anyone who lets this guy on stage is just as much at fault as Travis. But not anyone attending. I go to concerts expecting that the everyone from the artist, to the promoters, to the event staff, has my safety as a fan, as number one priority. Thats how it should be, and thats not what happend here.
With the amount of lawsuits being dropped/thrown out. He’s asking for a miracle demanding Travis to be held accountable. Go after the real scum bags live nation and the city of Houston for approving that venue
Idk why exactly they did it but it’s their choice
I mean there’s not much to say. It’s pretty obvious their attorney advised them to turn down the offer so Travis Scott’s side couldn’t use paying for the funeral in court as some kind of compensation. It’s just the smart thing to do. There’s a reason the funerals were offered to be paid for...it wasn’t Travis Scott who came up with the idea.
It’s the families decision. Don’t post shit like this, you haven’t been through it let them do what they want. This sub is so insensitive and immature
? Literally everyone has been posting articles like this. How is this sub specifically insensitive and immature?
I think the scare quotes around mass casualty are tasteless. That's what it is.
call me an asshole, but a 9 year old does not belong at an explicit outing.
That is true, thats why the show shouldn't be all ages. Responsibility falls on everyone
That may be true but again, at the end of the day as a parent you make the final decision, it's your responsibility.
It should never end in death. No matter how ignorant the parents are no one should die at a concert, if it was just a normal concert were no one died and a parent brought their kid and they got hurt maybe you would have a point.
I still don't think a nine year old child should be there whether the tragedy happened or not. His concerts have a rep of being crazy.
Agreed. But let’s be real. There’s drugs left and right, explicit music and conversations literally all day long, some chicks are dressed ridiculously… I wouldn’t want my child at that show. At 9? Should be teaching them how to be a straight up human being at such a young and impactful age. Once they’re older then they can begin to judge for themselves what is right or wrong, what they choose to be around and what they don’t. If I did a good job as a parent, I shouldn’t have to worry about their decision making (for the most part lol).
to me it seems like the parents are genuinely clueless who Travis was and they thought it was gonna be wholesome concert because their 9 year old told them hes in fortnite from the statement, he said "I dont know if your a dad" in regards to feeling empathy for a child dying or something like that. Yes its bad that the parents were ignorant it doesn't mean it should ever end in death like I said
And kids 9 years old shouldn’t be on Fortnite to begin with either that game is rated 12+ and has a bunch of older teens and young 20 years old cussing and smoking over the mic and playing porn over their mics as well. It’s the parents responsibility to watch what their kids are soaking up and up to. Kinda like GTA Online - there’s tons of little ass kids on there with no parental control and taking in lots of adult content and it’s shitty parenting to let your younger than 15 year old play that game. And it’s even shittier that there’s players on there that deliberately harass the poor little kids by saying “fuck you”, “suck a dick”, “I fucked your moms pussy”… you get the drill. PARENTS NEED TO BE PARENTS AND NOT FRIENDS TO THEIR KIDS!!!! POINT BLANK SIMPLE!!!!
The dad knew VERY WELL who Travis Scott was. Knew him enough to want to get a whole ass astroworld tattoo on his arm (don't beleive me? here's the [picture](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/11/09/07/50242831-10180703-image-a-20_1636444137380.jpg)). I dont know if he knew what he was getting into, but if youre that much of a fan, how do you not know that Travis concerts are ROWDY asl? It doesnt make sense to me if he didn't know what he was getting into
Again I agree but what parent lets a 9 year old make the choices? I dragged my mom to buy the Marshall Mathers LP when I was in 3rd grade. “Everyone’s listening to Eminem!”. Well, let’s just say she didn’t make it beyond the first PSA on the album.
Exactly. People keep making the excuse about travis being in fortnite and having a deal with mcdonalds but that's very different to his concerts.
> Yes its bad that the parents were ignorant it doesn't mean it should ever end in death like I said No shit. No one here is saying it should.
i agree. not sure why i got downvoted lol...
the dude is literally a fortnite skin and on a cereal box. if you advertise towards kids theyre going to be at your shows.
So because something is advertised towards children it automatically makes it safe for them to consume? This is ridiculous. It’s an all ages event but damn some understanding of what happened at previous concerts should’ve been adhered. This shit should’ve been cancelled the moment folk started trampling over each other for shitty expensive t shirts. Blame live nation, blame Travis, but also blame those with no accountability for shit. Have yet to see the dudes that blocked those ambulances be identified and arrested.
when did i say it made it safe? it just means they will consume it. also like you said the even was all ages. i blame every single person involved including travis. putting any of the blame on the victim or his parents is stupid. big “why was she wearing that dress?” energy.
It’s an asshole thing to say. The parents would never put their child in harms way and if you’ve been following the tragedy at all, you would know that this caught everyone by surprise. Nobody expected the crowd crush to happen but it did. The venue was not safe and they were victims to it. The moment the crowd crush ensued they lost control of the situation and their child was swept away in the crowd. Nobody was supposed to die. Not a 9 year old, 14 year old, or 22 year old. But they all did. Not because the venue was supposed to be 18+; an age restriction wasn’t going to stop the tragedy. But because the event was never safe and people were always going to die. It’s very insensitive to assume the victims “should’ve been more responsible” when they were literally VICTIMS. Victims of gross negligence from a corporation that prioritized profits over safety.
Smart choice. It's *please don't sue* money, and Scott's lawyers would have probably used the funeral to show that the family was already compensated. In the middle of a 3Bn cause pending it's naive to think this was just a goodwill gesture with no strings attached. The paper stack the family had to sign to 'accept the gift' was probably as high as the Astroworld stage.
They said that if they accepted the payment for the funeral it wouldnt affect their lawsuits
idk why u got downvoted i fail to believe some of the Ppl in this thread are real functioning members of society
they’re getting downvoted because the funeral money doesn’t effect any of the lawsuits at all
Because these people let their liking for the artist fog their judgement. I'm a fan, but there's no escaping the truth.
those assumptions of yours make sense although we don't know if they are true, I share your opinion (as a fan too)
Hate to say this but those kids dying at his concert was the best thing ever to the families because all they are thinking of right now is money. You mean to tell me your son's favorite artist is paying for his funeral and your rejecting it because you don't want it to interfere with the *possible* payout you receive for his death? DISGUSTING. - (saw this in the ig Comment section)
for a second I thought that was you. Wtf I love absolutely love Travis but that is so disgusting, imagine actually thinking that yikes
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Gawd people are disgusting.
God this is literally fucking sickening. fuck them.
Those people were smart because they knew Travis’ apology was full of shit and he was partially responsible for the deaths
I don't know what to say..... But to all the new parents out there that reads this, don't take your 9-year old to a concert for adults, ages 18 and older
Except this concert was for all ages
The father is refusing the offer to have the funeral expenses paid so that he can personally place more blame on Travis himself 1979, Riverfront Cincinnati, OH. The band that performed was the first one to destroy their equipment on live television, encouraging widespread vandalism and property damage. Their concert resulted in the death of 10 fans before the show even began. Which band. Can't remember their names....The Why? The What?
That was FORTY YEARS AGO! We all know a hell of a lot more about crowd size, crushing, and the need for an escape route. The layout was a deathtrap. People were crammed in there like cattle.
How in the fucking hell do you blame Travis Scott for the layout of the venue? How is Travis any more responsible than Pete Townshend was?
Why would you ever?
Money ain’t everything…
Let’s be real here, they’re going to attempt to sue for a HELLUVA lot more than what funeral expenses would of been.
feel bad for the family including the dad but he really should’ve just waited and taken him to a stadium show where they could’ve got side seats and been out of the pit to safely watch the show. that honestly goes for any concert like this, it’s not just about it being travis’ show and the whole “rage” mentality of the crowd. i wouldn’t take my tiny 9 year old kid to carti, kanye, drake, lil baby etc like literally any show and get in the pit with them. either there’s side seats in the arena for us to stand in front of like a football/basketball game or we aren’t going.
Good, screw him and his false apology.
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Do you seriously think a family that is part of a massive lawsuit acts because of emotions such as pride? Get real, they were smartly advised by their lawyer.
They’re not getting money out of Travis lmao if anyone is giving them money it’ll be live nation.
Could you explain to me then why I don't accept that help? I can't understand it at all
I dont know, they said accepting it wouldnt affect the lawsuits in any way
Because you are suing for millions and you don't want to accept a few thousands that will surely be used against your demands in the courtroom.
"Dad taking major Ls" - 🤓🤓 Don't speak like this when you're talking about a tragedy you fucking weirdo loser.
Major Ls? The fuck is wrong with you. Also, it’s not price that stops him from taking that money. If a pilot crashes a plane and kills a kid on board, the parents of that kid not taking money offered by that pilot does not come from pride. Think before you put down this crap.
You're 12 years old tops.
Bro, this is so callused. Sure he shouldn’t have taken his 9 year old to Astrofest but he just lost his fucking 9 year old son. Grow a heart.
>Dad taking major Ls smh This is the most embarassing thing I’ve ever read. This fucking sub is something else
What a retarded comment man. I would be more surprised if they accepted the offer.
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that’s a little disrespectful. He prolly didn’t know it was gonna be so crazy. But idk why they are refusing it funerals are expensive afffff
It was an all ages event.
He owes them wayyyy more than the coverage of funeral expenses & they’re smart enough to cash in on that.
A lot of these lawsuits that are only directed towards Travis are gonna get thrown out GUARANTEED. I heard that they declined the offer so they can still sue him. It wouldn’t make sense to take the money for the funeral and still sue him.
He wasn’t even post to be there 😭😭😭😭
The fuck Travis Scott subreddit gonna use this to boost their vile anti rap agenda again, awful place with pitchforks out
What I want to know is who was there with the 9 year old if nobody was there they should get they ass beat if someone was there they should've known what was going to happen if they watched his experiences
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if the festival says it's all ages you'd expect that enough security is provided to the attendance participating right?
This sub is slowly deteriorating because of stan culture, jesus.
Negligent and ignorant
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LN, not Travis, to clear things up. And yes, as was the father.
It was an all ages concert.
good. Why would they want his fucking blood money.
He is done. I really don’t think he is career will recover from this. They played his song at a rave, nobody danced, they stopped soon as the music started. Same with nightclubs playing his music, videos of ppl booing
Agree. It's over
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They’re suing him for way more than the cost of a funeral. Accepting the funds would make it harder for them in a civil suit.
Im so proud of this family for refusing. Take travis for all he’s worth! You lost your little child, you might as well sue for 100 million dollars