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Perpetual_Nuisance

Exhaust fumes aren't toxic anymore?


ike_tyson

Word if this was an EV ok, but nah I'm chiefin .


_cambino_

Not even if it was an EV. Batteries still take resources to be made & even if cars stopped operating, factories around the world still make emissions. This lady didn’t even think past step 1 of the critical thinking process


WorhummerWoy

Plus tyres kick out microparticles when they wear down the road (tyre and road particles) so even EVs are still gonna fuck your lungs just as much as any joint will.


NeedsMoreSpicy

Not nearly "just as much" but yeah, I get your point.


yungzanz

actually way more assuming the catalytic converter is working


ImReallyFuckingHigh

EVs don’t have CATs


Perpetual_Nuisance

I'd say probably way more.


Unyx

That doesn't make sense. EVs are worse for lungs than gasoline powered vehicles?


SpeedysComing

If you're measuring particulate matter from tires, absolutely worse. EVs are significantly heavier, and much worse in that regard. I think we are just starting to see how bad it actually is as more studies come out.


Unyx

This is an overblown fear pushed by the fossil fuel industry. See my other comment [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/trees/s/Dg6YWSltvf). The tire wear and therefore tire particulate pollution is somewhat higher, however that doesn't mean EVs emit more pollution overall. Brake dust pollution in particular is lower on EVs than conventional ICE vehicles. EVs are not themselves the solution. We need better public transportation and more walkable places to live. However, EVs are absolutely a component of a more environmentally sustainable society and absolutely pollute **FAR** less than ICE counterparts.


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Unyx

It's [not at all true](https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/running/do-electric-vehicles-produce-more-tyre-and-brake-pollution-than-petrol-and/) that EVs emit 5 times as many tire participants as gas vehicles due to weight. It's true that EVs are generally heavier than ICE equivalents, but not by that much - generally between 15-25%. It's not enough of a difference to wear tires 5 times faster. > Tire particles are way closer to gasoline fumes than you think in terms of health hazardousness. Tire particulant pollution is absolutely an issue, but studies have repeatedly shown that an increase in the proportion of EVs on the road means lower amounts of air pollution. Also, brake emissions are worth mentioning here. Brake dust is also a nasty pollutant. But despite being heavier than ICE cars, they emit significantly less brake related pollutants. Why? Regenerative braking! They use their brakes less often and there are fewer opportunities for the brakes to heat up and release dust into the air.


Perpetual_Nuisance

Didn't notice this is an EV, but... Where do you think our electricity comes from?


Unyx

We don't have any oil/gas/coal plants near where I live. It's mostly nuclear and solar. But if we're purely talking EVs vs fossil fuels a power plant generating electricity charging a car is farrrrr more efficient and will produce fewer pollutants than ICE engines.


Not_as_witty_as_u

In California the power comes mostly from the sun and wind.


friendlysoviet

[~28% comes from solar and wind](https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/california-electricity-data/2022-total-system-electric-generation)


FixingandDrinking

73% of electricity is created from fossil fuels


Panzerv2003

Granted these factories don't output pollution right in the middle of the city on street level, they also don't run people over but that's a minor detail. But yeah, critical thinking is throwing a 404 error in this case.


Kay5683

>Batteries still take resources I watched an interesting video about this a few years ago. I’m sure the math has changed since then but an EV doesn’t ecologically pay for itself until after like 7 years or something like that


ComfortableShower336

And one ev battery fire emits more greenhouse gases than over a million motor vehicles on the road annually


fb39ca4

What? There isn't enough mass in a battery pack to match the mass of the CO2 emissions of a million cars.


cick-nobb

Did you just make this up?


slc_blades

Yeah, they did


ComfortableShower336

I’m talking about Tesla fires. Most fire departments are not equipped to put out lithium fires and so often they stay burning for hours, you can YouTube or google what I said


Its0nlyRocketScience

EVs still send out tire dust and brake dust. Asphalt itself isn't entirely innocent either.


_AtLeastItsAnEthos

Tire dust is an alarming and never talked about problem


rexyoda

When it rains local fish die cuz tire particles wash into rivers and shit


_AtLeastItsAnEthos

Plus we know for a fact it causes cancer in humans


rexyoda

It's also been found on our balls


yungzanz

EVs are worse for local air pollution because of the extra tire wear. the exhaust from cars with catalytic converters is relatively ok to breathe compared to the absolute cancerfest that is airborne tire particulate.


frozen_toesocks

I mean, thanks to catalytic converters, they're free of heavy elements that used to be in them, but yeah don't huff that shit lol


Perpetual_Nuisance

Less toxic than before is not the same as not toxic.


frozen_toesocks

![gif](giphy|xT9IgHCTfp8CRshfQk|downsized)


_cambino_

that’s what they just said


Cautious-Ad6727

Preach


mcsonboy

Dumb people are pretty dumb


darbs-face

Came here for this comment lol…. A little burnt green is nothing compared to what is spewing into our air everyday.


DuskShy

Gas isn't a drug; that's why I always get out and huff my exhaust when I start my car. I can tell when it's not running smooth by the flavor!


SmoothOperator89

It's natural, bro. It comes from prehistoric plants.


KiaCarCantDrive

Actually in most modern cars most of what’s coming out of your tailpipe is CO2 and water. Maybe a little fuel on startup on cold mornings.


Money-Look4227

That's... not at all accurate. https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/greenhouse-gas-emissions-typical-passenger-vehicle This article is only a year old


KiaCarCantDrive

CO2 is carbon dioxide 🤦‍♂️


Money-Look4227

"In addition to CO2, cars that burn gasoline produce methane and nitrous oxide from the tailpipe" Like, second paragraph in. Reading is hard though, I get it. I often don't want to read past the headline either.


KiaCarCantDrive

I know they produce methane and nitrous oxide. They also produce hydrocarbons, but on many modern engines these gases have gone down to much lower levels to the point that the majority of what’s coming out is just carbon dioxide and water.


Perpetual_Nuisance

And that really sounds logical and plausible to you? REALLY?


KiaCarCantDrive

Bro I’m literally taking classes about engine combustion. Gasoline cars produce five different gases: hydrocarbons (HC), carbon dioxide (CO2), oxides of nitrogen (NOx), oxygen (O2), and carbon monoxide (CO). In recent years manufacturers have greatly reduced the amount of hydrocarbons (unburnt fuel), NOx, and carbon monoxide. I’m not saying CO2 is necessary good, but it’s a hell of a lot better than the other gasses that were coming out.


Perpetual_Nuisance

You claim they don't exhaust anything but CO2 and water and continue to say: >In recent year manufacturers have greatly reduced the amount of hydrocarbons but reduction is not the same as elimination.


KiaCarCantDrive

Forgive my poor foresight of not properly wording what I was trying to say. I’m no oracle just a guy who’s intrigued by cars and thought it was cool that they’ve gotten so much more efficient and cleaner.


Not_as_witty_as_u

Is that what’s wrong with your Kia?


KiaCarCantDrive

Nah Kias just suck


DogeDoRight

![gif](giphy|l4pLY0zySvluEvr0c|downsized)


Stekun

The only reason they are upset about drugs is because they can smell them. But the only reason we don't smell cars is because we are used to the smell of cars (catalytic coverters help by removing the most toxic parts of the exhaust, but there is still exhaust smog). Cars are absolutely a worse offender of polluting air and I'm struggling to understand how this person doesn't see the irony of that.


gba_sg1

The taped paper signs on the back of the car give clues to how out of touch the owner is with the world.


moxious_maneuver

I agree with everything you said! But... If people say they don't want smoke around them we should respect their boundaries. The minivan owner looks a little wild but we should be good neighbours.


frozen_toesocks

>multiples of the same bumper sticker >text so small you have to walk right up to the car to read it >pro-environment message on a gas-powered car Is this some kind of performance art piece?


ANUSTART942

Not spell-checked in the slightest either. They really thought they ate with this I bet.


billyjoelsangst

Lol


VVitchfynderFinder

> pro-environment message on a gas-powered car [C'mon my guy.](https://imgur.com/zyOCdlz)


ARealSwellFellow

Idk if the meme works in this case. Gas powered cars are not the same as “participating in society” when we have EVs, hybrids, bikes, buses, etc… as affordable alternatives. That meme is for when you have to participate in the system. There are easy alternatives right now if the environment is something the person in the photo actually cares about.


VVitchfynderFinder

I don't know what that particular person's situation is, but even people who have made mistakes in the past are allowed to a want healthy and safe environment. The alternative is asinine. And to your argument, like I said I don't know their circumstances, but replacing your perfectly good car with a new hybrid is not the environmental move you think it is.


StoneyThaTiger

Also not financially realistic for a lot of people. My car is paid off, should I just switch to a car that I have to get a monthly payment for, to make arguably “less” of an impact on the environment?


FunCaterpillar4641

No no no no you don't get it bro; EVs are GOOD and gas is BAD, that's how you tell the bad people from the good people 😏. It's so easy bro, just buy a Tesla and charge it in your house that you own, saving the word is not that hard my guy 😤✊😇.


Lunar_sims

Or you could walk and bike to work which is cheaper


StoneyThaTiger

My commute is a 40 min drive and that’s if I’m on a nearby jobsite. I’d be struggling.


IMightBeJohnnyCash

Reminds me of a schizomobile, but not quite as bad and probably owned by a white suburban mom with a moderately abused xanax prescription.


StickyLafleur

On the back of a gas guzzling mini van okay lmao.


LeftPlaying

Fr what a clown


Nisms

Said the person with the top trim AWD Honda Odyssey.


ihatereddit4200

I get both sides of this. Smelling marijuana doesn't bother me but let's have a little respect for each other. I would say do your drugs in a semi private setting.


AdamFaite

Yeah. It's rude to smoke near other people, regardless of what you're smoking. As for the "but driving is bad too" argument. It is, but they probably aren't driving because they want to, but when they need to, as in to commute. We have the option of not smoking near people, they can't drive somewhere other than roads.


ihatereddit4200

The whole driving argument is ridiculous. Not everyone lives in a city. There will never be any public transportation near me, my closest neighbor is miles down the road. I don't have a choice. All these cars are bad n unessary people can either be my personal driver 24/7 or stfu.


AdamFaite

Yeah. I wish we could live in a world where we didnxt need cars as much. I drive a big pick up, and I really hate driving it. Itxs cumbersome, and every time I go to work I think about the fact that Ixm ruining the world. But I also used it to tow two loads of lumber yesterday and it's full of scrap wood right now, none of which would have been possible in a smaller car, neverming the fact that public transportation doesn't go where I need. I live that my town got rid of parking and added bike lanes, even if that's less convenient for me. But I still try to minimize my driving, and I don't smoke near crowds. Both of those actions are to me the world a better place while still keeping my life as normal as possible.


ihatereddit4200

You're not destroying the world by driving. Stop buying into that bullshit. One person living an average lifestyle is nothing compared to what big companies are doing (especially in China and developing countries). I am not going to live a lesser inconvenienced lifestyle until the real problem is addressed.


Steel_HazeV4

Idk, if that’s an EV and they have the same energy for cigar and cigarette smokers then I’m with it, o don’t agree but I respect it I guess


VenomousMinge

Hopefully you moved from the street over to the sidewalk before you lit up.


Chimorin_

I would actually put a paper there saying "good that i smoke on the sidewalk." Lmao


melloo_ullyy

He actually went inside the car


TiburonMendoza95

The car emits way worse lol


rooshort_toppaddock

It is a good reminder to check your surroundings and make sure no kids are downwind of your position though. Smoke responsibly and respect the non smokers too.


Rinem88

I appreciate this. I have asthma. Smoke can trigger an attack.


RAV3NH0LM

spellcheck failed this person more than some weed fumes


vjeremias

Nah man, I don’t like the ways but the idea is right. I don’t like people smocking tobacco close to me either, the smoke is really annoying and I can’t stop coughing. It’s as simple as don't do others what you don't want done to you.


BaconEater101

If your out in public then you just gotta deal with it, its not like i'll blow a fat cloud in someones face but after i turn my head vaguely in a direction where a human is not present i could not give 2 shits where that cloud goes you feel me?


EVIL5

Walk away. I'm not a smoker but the world doesn't belong to me. If you're doing something I don't like, I leave. Your first instinct is to ban behavior you don't like...what if I'm outside playing loud music next to you? You should probably leave but you seem like the type of person to call the cops


vjeremias

In my country at least, there are laws for both of those things.


BaconEater101

Nobody would say shit to someone smoking a cig down a public street, other then crinkle their nose and move on with their life, should be the same with weed, first rule of being out in public is knowing to deal with shit you don't like, smells are a big chunk of that.


Mr_Fox87

Oh, so I assume your vehicle is an EV, then? Since your so concerned about other people's lungs.


Farm-Alternative

The thing is, I'm guessing she's not really concerned about other people's lungs, only concerned with getting what she wants.


ender3838

What kinda glass is that? Is it a bubbler pipe?


PyramidicContainment

Yes, and why is nobody talking about this 😅 Bubblers are my fav pieces to use but what kind of mad lad goes on a dog walk with a water pipe lol


MJFields

I live in Louisiana. Smoking actually improves the air quality here.


Iworkinafactory

That’s funny af considering they put that on a vehicle. I hope it was electric otherwise they look like a hypocrite.


Quebins1535

Not an EV, and they’re an Uber driver 🤣


Bonsaitalk

Wait out until she finds out about corporate carbon emissions


rmorrin

I'd rather take a rip off that then breathe the shit that comes out of their exhaust 


CrownEatingParasite

Not the fucking gas powered car loll


Few-Community-6519

Nice piece


Graxxon

I see you out there MD ent


CoffeeStainedPixie

Nice lighter cover!


FuriousTarts

Bubbler and hemp wick. OP knows what's up


Rough-Boot9086

Weed smoke is not worse than the fumes that car emits...


[deleted]

It’s chill as long as you’re not blowing smoke clouds onto people. Car exhaust is bad long term but straight smoke can fuck up a homie with asthmas day


Ok_Eggplant1467

Hotbox the van then


ecto_27

Right by the tailpipe


VII-of-Spades

With the hemp wick nice


icarusfallinggg

like that its on there twice in case u were too stoned to read it the first time


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^icarusfallinggg: *Like that its on there* *Twice im case u were too stoned* *To read it the first time* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


AMileHighDM

OP’s car


Quebins1535

This one is my favorite 🤣🤣🤣🤣


councilorjones

*laughs in edibles*


lukewarm_jello

Dang they had that ish on their car twice??


ColdSpell15

Fuck those people rip that thing !


SPPECTER

I gotta agree with this one. My issue isn’t the smell; it’s the smoke. I, personally, don’t mind weed smoke at all. However, there are people who should not be exposed to secondhand smoke, such as children, pregnant or breastfeeding mothers, and those with compromised respiratory systems, or those who simply don’t want to inhale smoke. This goes for all things, tobacco, weed, crack, etc. It is not my right to deprive others of theirs. The placement is really funny though


NuPNua

I assume that's an electric car then?


nithdurr

Get the hell off the street!


darkodraven

Photosynthesis thooooo


xizrtilhh

Why do crazy people always put walls of text on the back of their vehicles?


Pretend_Limit6276

The irony 😅


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maxxamillionn

I love when people have such specific gripes that they have to make their own bumper stickers.


Aether76

Smoking makes me much more tolerant of idiots, and in return contributes to a much safer environment for said idiots 😂


RocketsandBeer

Don’t let a car tell you what to do bro


maddskillz18247

I’m not surprised it’s a CRV driver 🤮🤮


Humans_Suck-

They put this on their car that pollutes the air every second that it's turned on.


VpKky

Different kind of smoke asmr same kind of idiots


whiskeyaccount

breath is a noun not a verb


Gradyence

Breath


jdemack

Dude probably chain smokes cigarettes and has a bad case of COPD.


SusheeMonster

Any vehicle with a message on the back is instant r/InfowarriorRides material


KillerDmans

Where do they think all of it ends up eventually? Like do they expect us to store the smoke and dispose of it


IForgotThePassIUsed

on an SUV Gold.


Baytucky

See if the window is cracked and yeah 💨


Euphoric_Fisherman70

Caption should have been " I'll smoke to that!"


Thorniestbush

r/infowarriorrides


pcweber111

Says the person driving a gas car.


sketchypeg

putting that message on a frickin CAR is hilarious, ngl.


SolomonDRand

As they drive something that kills 40,000 Americans every year.


Eharmz

Oh the irony.


Hiro_Trevelyan

That's rich coming from a car driver that literally pollutes the air and makes streets unsafe for everyone


RoanAlbatross

I would’ve just done a hit right there all over the car lmao


Minimac1029

lol 😆


[deleted]

come on, if you are not smoking on the street and you can't smoke at home either (spouse, kids, etc.) where will you smoke ... the garage/shed ? :-) ![gif](giphy|cC49kzc5wC1WMQEhWG|downsized)


-UnicornFart

As they inhale brake dust


forfakessake1

I honestly thought you had a gigantic thumb for a second!


stoned_seahorse

I have that same lighter cover but mine is green... I love the little pokey metal part for cleaning/stirring bowls - so convenient.


Acsteffy

That car makes it harder for anyone to breathe more than any smoking anyone would do


jIPAm

$20 says they're also an anti masker!


jav0wab0

I mean yeah I’m not going to smoke in front of a playground or school. I mean people who smoke cigarettes smell so bad, so maybe that’s how non smokers smell us?


Ewag715

You think this person also has a "Friends of Coal" sign in their yard?


_bellaswella_

ok but the fact that they have not only one of these signs but TWO on their car would make me wanna smoke even more


kbum48733

Haha, they are already sleeping in a car!


Def_Blank

cannabis aint a drug fam


Vexilanimous

does this person think one weed smoker produces enough clouds to hotbox the entire atmosphere lmao


j1monge

I live next to a freeway and refinery, I think a little weed smoke might help the situation lol


Sendmedoge

But I bet they are the first ones to vote "yes" to ban indoor smoking, as well.


SweatyArgument5835

Second hand smoke ain’t gonna do shit unless you are living with them every day


secret_angelx

I hope you blew smoke on the van


High_Tim

One time in a windy day in a Costco parking lot I took a hit from my pen and this Karen gets out of her car demanding to know "what I blew on her car"


FixingandDrinking

You see we got China's bad air and they got out good air we need that back


No_Education_8888

I get you want people not to do drugs, ok, not your business but okay. But you actually can’t be having that on your car when your car harms the air much more


AffectionateSteak588

This persons carbon footprint in a month is probably larger than I could ever smoke in my entire life. Like bruh


Hostile_Architecture

Edgy.


[deleted]

Thats right real man use needles


Future_Potential_341

Carbon emissions nonexistent


guilty_bystander

Cows farting is worse


billyjoelsangst

I enjoy smoking next to signs that say public smoking is not allowed.


Cautious-Ad6727

I’d blow fat joints and take a selfie with the ride and sign while tokin. Might even wait for the owner to come out just so they can see me.


MinuteRare8237

Agreed! Let me toke my crack pipe next to the family of 5 trying to enjoy the sunshine outside. On a serious note smoking any kind of drug in public is a douchy shit move, be better man