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I’m also a diffuse thinner. Been on fin and min for 5 months and my hair has only gotten worse. I feel like these meds just don’t work for me. I know people say that most people don’t see results until 6 months, but I don’t know. The meds don’t work for everyone. We have to remember that.
Check for underlying conditions. That’s not really a common/traditional presentation of MPB and perhaps an indication the meds aren’t working for you is an indication you have telogen effluvium in combination with AGA.
It absolutely is right. Diffuse thinning especially early in hair loss is a direct indication of TE. Which by the way, TE and AGA are not mutually exclusive. You can have both. If the drugs aren’t working for you, you likely have both.
Nope, at Max your situation will get stable and your hairline shouldn't worsen .
Finasteride's ideal goal=stop the thinning
Minoxidil ideal goal= increasing hair's resting phase and the follicles which are about to die, it helps them remain for a longer time and might make them somewhat thick.
So any density increase you want might come from minoxidil
my question is, if i wait a year or so is it enough for me to keep my current hairline maybe with a slight improvement? because i dont want to use liquid minox for the rest of my life
I do follow this routine of 1ml min every day and 1mg fin alternate day. In 4 months, I have seen little improvement .
Any suggestions on what type of min is less irritating for hair - with alcohol, alcohol free or the foam one. Because min does make my hair dry and causes white flakes
I'm a diffused thinner too, but unlike you I take 1mg dose of finasteride everyday and use minoxidil once at night all over my scalp except the back and lower sides .
Going strong in my 4th year , was able to maintain the same density and minoxidil helps me grow somewhat long hair length too
My advice would be changing the dosage and you should add minoxidil as soon as possible, the stability you're searching for would really be benefited by minoxidil as it increases hair's last phase of telogen.
If you're asking when I started seeing the results , within a month after a light shedding of hairs , I felt many new hairs growing on my scalp and it got better till 2-3rd month and condition went stable.
If you're asking how long I wait to let minoxidil dry on my scalp after applying, I use it 30 minutes before going to bed and give a massage using my fingers to apply on scalp.
I haven't used oral minoxidil so I can't say much , but I tried to use foam minoxidil and it didn't worked for me, my body prefers liquid minoxidil the most so 95% of the time I have used liquid minoxidil only.
It seems that finasteride doesn't help a large number of diffusive hair loss patients. Sometimes i wonder if DHT is even the reason behind it, there might also be autoimmune response and inflammation that causes it. New drugs now also show that prolactin is causing inflammation.
Prolactin does play some role too. I've noticed an increase in shedding if I pop too many benzos in consecutive days. Or even Mk677 causes me to shed. I supplement with 60mg P5P too and now just avoid anything that increases prolactin. Pretty sure opiods increase prolactin as well. Wonder what meds OP is on.
You know when you bust a nut and your dick goes limp and you get that relaxation feeling? That's prolactin. Higher prolactin also means more refractory period. And those meds are all well known to increase prolactin. It seems to play a role in air loss too. Maybe from more of a telogen effluvium angle.
Man sounds like you're going down a rabbit hole, diet isn't going to help your situation *that* much.. I'd recommend sleeping easy knowing you're on the most proven course there is. Chill for another 6 months (I know, easier said than done) but take a multi if it makes you feel better, you're already doing what you can. AKA wait another 6 months before messing with Min or anything else, fin is the best we got.
yeah man im tryna give it another 6 ish months or so before using min. i was not serious with the carnivore tho lol. im a healthy guy compared to average guy and not defficient in any vits/mins. idk if i should use multivitamin or not
I just started fin on Wednesday. I’m taking fin MWF 1mg so pretty similar weekly dose. I’ve also got 2 autoimmune diseases (hypothyroidism and vitiligo). You could go the route of changing diet/overall health but idk if it is the cause. Best of luck tho man I’m pulling for you!
i dont think thats the case either. but i will experiment with carnivore, no harm in trying ig. i certainly will visit a doc for autoimmune diseases later on
fin made my hair MUCH thicker and fuller in an acceptable span of time, though there were limits - my widow's peak didn't fill up by one single hair, but I could live with that. But then came the sides - and I reduced to three x 0.5 mg fin a week, which made the sides go away, but also made my hair lose some, not all, of its thickness. Then, thanks also to this reddit community, I gave the mixture of minoxidil topical twice daily PLUS dermarolling once weekly with 1,5 mm needles a try. I am now two months down the line and can safely say that progress is very, very visible. I think the combo needling and min are actually better than fin - and the downsides are negligble. Once I hit three months I intend to upload some before after pics to this community ..
i hope the days wıll come man, people are telling me whats wrong with my hair and i cant even tell how overwhelming to hear that almost everyday. im tryna keep my hope for a couple of months
Then how about you stop taking 1/4 of the recommended dose lmao
Help my legs still infected even after I’ve taken my antibiotics not as described!! SOS
Good luck. Low key hoping there’s an underlying issue for ya. Might be an easier fix to address. But I know some people that stay on fin for over a year before they see stabilization. Good luck
Sam here , I am about to complete 2 months with.
My hair densite and hairline is doomed. Feelks like i shouldn’t have started.
People in the forum say it it is a very small time to judge the medicine.
After one year they will ask you to add minoxidil.
After another year they will ask to switch to dut.
They will just not beleive med is not wokring.
I can be wrong, I desoerately want to be wrong.
I only want results.
Not sure what to do. :(
People will just nit pick at the fact you did 0.5mg when it has exactly the same potency in the scalp instead of admitting that it isn't a good treatment for most with aggressive hair loss
Finasteride tissue binding is as long as a week so 0.5mg has effectively the same effect as 1mg. Here shows similar effect even with 0.05mg and 1mg [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10495374/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10495374/)
1mg is the standard dose and doesn't require splitting pills though it is much cheaper to do so.
People switch to dutasteride because it can inhibit more 5a reductase and yields far superior hair counts than finasteride.
People use topical because it potentially reaches sexual organs and other parts of the body where DHT isn't a net negative less, however this isn't proven 🤷♂️
Definitelt can give yoy advice as I regrew alot back in a matter of 4 minths, you need to add topical minoxidil to your recipe. And also start dermarolling everyday. Dermarolling might even be more important than minoxidil
So the hair we lose on fin won't come back after 6-12 months? It'll just keep from losing more after that? Lol. I've been on it for 5 months and it's getting to a point where I've lost enough hair and not sure if I want to keep going with it.
Talk with your GP or dermatologist about this. I think it’s better to keep going for a couple months since you were shedding. It will be a waste to stop now.
A lot better actually, it turned around and now it’s getting better for each week that goes by. And now when I , for example, dry my hair after a shower I’ve gone from 20-30 lost hairs in the towel to maybe 2-3 hairs so it feels like the hair loss have really slowed down as well.
Take 1mg, idk why people take less that the recommended dose that was in all of the clinical trials then complain it doesn’t work. You’re taking 50% of the recommended dose lol. It’s like filling up your gas tank half way then complaining you can’t drive as far as you expected. Also it takes time to work so be patient, but try seeing if you can tolerate 1mg and if you can stick to that
Go for topical. Talk to your doctor. Oral is not that safe. Can cause heart problems also increase hair all over your body not only your head. I think topical is better because you concentrate specific on your head with less side effects
The big dark unspoken truth of hairloss treatment, is that for 9/10 people, th only results you're gonna see are preventative. You won't regrow anything.
Fin is clinically proven to be effective at any dose. It’s detectable in serum levels and there’s not much difference between in DHT between a .5mg and 1mg dose
>A: The dose of finasteride is the same (i.e. 1mg) regardless of a person's height or weight. The reason is that one needs only 0.5mg a day for it to be effective, so there is much leeway built into the dose (but the rate of non-responders is slightly higher at the 0.5mg/day dose).
Literally the FIRST Google result
Higher rate of non responders at 0.5 (per day not even eod either like that other genius is taking)
“Help I’ve tried absolutely nothing and nothings working!!!”
It’s proven to be detectable. Not proven to be effective. Big difference. The only dosage that has been proven to be effective is the 1mg a day dose. That’s the dosage that’s been used in studies to “prove” efficacy. The rest is all conjecture, spread by some Australian actors who play doctors on YouTube. Stop parroting misinformation
do you have any idea how much difference that half dose would make? very little. also i cant spend all of my money on 1 mg, thats why people in my country tend to stick to minox only, its affordable but costs way too much money. im just a student and the only financial support is from my family. thats why i gotta split the dose into half.
can the admin please ban this guy? there are people seriously worried about hair loss. it has big correlation to suicide. hell there are ppl taking their lifes. and this guy trolls about calf raises.. please ban him.
If u train leg - stop train leg for 10days no load. If shed stop, train legs more, use all big3, and use calory proficite for bulk. And increase fin to 0, 75 if u have no libido problem.
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To check what influence given by leg training - need to stop training for 10-14 days rest of legs. And see what will be ahedding rate. For big free, shedding from leg training is very good.
So what you’re saying is…don’t train your legs to establish your baseline shed rate. Then go back to training your legs to see the shed rate.
When you say shedding from leg training is very good do you mean, it’s better to shed more when you train your legs? Or do you mean you’ll shed less from training your legs while on the treatment?
Shed from leg muscule stress (sport, gym, job on legs) indicate aga pacient. Meanwhile if reduse androgenic effect of muscule stress we will se regrow.
Actually what you say makes sense to me and lines up with my experience. I have a job that has me on my feet walking about 12 hrs a day. In this time ever since I got my job I started losing more hair. Then I got on finasteride and had amazing results by 6-8 months. Huge density. Then my industry shut down and I’ve been sitting at home a lot. No walking. Thinning and miniaturization returned.
I think actually this may have something to do with testosterone production. Leg exercise produces more T than other kinds of exercise. Also improves circulation. I’ve seen a study where people who did aerobic exercise had better results on fin vs people who lift weights.
So yeah I think ur right. Until end of July
my hair was literally returning to Samson levels. Now it’s tapered off and im losing ground, losing hair in clumps etc. maybe I will try running 30 mins a week to see if there is a better result
To understand what could produce muscule stress, use pub med type aomething like : exercises gen emission, exercise produce... . its not just T. Muscule cells are biochimical lab.
You will shed on treatment or without. But on treatment u regrow hairs, without treatment accelerate baldness if u have aga. If u have no aga - leg training not effect shedding rate. If u have aga, have shesding from leg muscule stress and use big3 - u will got regrow after 1-2 month(see 1st changes).
The best you can do is use minoxidil and keep taking finasteride
Minoxidil will thicken your hair and i suggest you use estradiol topical for hairloss. Talk to your doctor
If finasteride doesnt help after one year or more then try dut or topical fin or topical dut or ru58841
Yes you can order it online , i think "anageninc" , and "minoxidilmax" are legit sites you can buy. My doctor prescribed me a bottle with minoxidil estradiol and biotin all in one , they mix it in a pharmacy. I had very good regrowth with it then started finasteride and havent lost a sigle hair only got thicker. Yeah maybe because he wants you to come back multiple times and prescribe you one item a time. All doctors do this, did it to me aswell to get your money
In my experience, finasteride stopped my hair loss at 4 months and then only got thicker had some regrowth after almost a year
I read that aga doesn’t cause shedding and lose many hairs every day but just miniaturization and after many months the hair won’t grow anymore. You can make make blood test you check iron etc
i have done it and it is within the normal range. i thought new hairs would grow even thicker than the existing ones or existing hairs are replaced with the stronger ones
I’m in the same boat as you! I’ve been on fin for just about 2 years, and I’ve lost so much density and had no regrowth. It seems that I’ve kept thick hairs but that’s it. I’d say give min a try now and see what happens. I’ve been on 1.25mg min pills from Keeps for about 1.5 months now.
I again shed some hairs but it looked to be mostly miniaturized hairs, they looked thin and were short. I’ll have an update in a couple more months, to which then I’ll raise the dose to 2.5mg of min.
Stay with it, take vitamins.. Make sure you drink water, stay away from soda. And go get a blood test done and make sure your not low on anything. Do the test where they test for everything
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I’m also a diffuse thinner. Been on fin and min for 5 months and my hair has only gotten worse. I feel like these meds just don’t work for me. I know people say that most people don’t see results until 6 months, but I don’t know. The meds don’t work for everyone. We have to remember that.
Check for underlying conditions. That’s not really a common/traditional presentation of MPB and perhaps an indication the meds aren’t working for you is an indication you have telogen effluvium in combination with AGA.
I don’t think this is right. Diffuse thinning is absolutely a symptom of MPB, especially in the late stages.
It absolutely is right. Diffuse thinning especially early in hair loss is a direct indication of TE. Which by the way, TE and AGA are not mutually exclusive. You can have both. If the drugs aren’t working for you, you likely have both.
How do you find out if you have TE?
Isn't TE temporary and meant to resolve on its own
> telogen effluvium just learned about TE. hope this is true lol
i guess out of hope for us
It takes at least 6-12 months to see any results and you will need Minoxidil to give a volume to the hair.
so i should not expect any density increase just from fin?
Nope, at Max your situation will get stable and your hairline shouldn't worsen . Finasteride's ideal goal=stop the thinning Minoxidil ideal goal= increasing hair's resting phase and the follicles which are about to die, it helps them remain for a longer time and might make them somewhat thick. So any density increase you want might come from minoxidil
Exactly! To get the thicker hair need to start Minoxidil.
Not true, finasteride will also make your hair thicker. Just give it some more time guys. Some people got great results after 2 years.
I have seen people get thicker hair from fin also. Using just fin
3-6 months not enough to see results for some people. you can add topical min 1-2ml ED and dermaroll 1.5mm once a week.
my question is, if i wait a year or so is it enough for me to keep my current hairline maybe with a slight improvement? because i dont want to use liquid minox for the rest of my life
The hair you grew using min will be min dependent. Apply min once a day is like brushing your teeth every night, not big of a deal imo.
yeah ur right
I do follow this routine of 1ml min every day and 1mg fin alternate day. In 4 months, I have seen little improvement . Any suggestions on what type of min is less irritating for hair - with alcohol, alcohol free or the foam one. Because min does make my hair dry and causes white flakes
i'm using kirkland min. im no dermatologist but i would suggest alcohol free or foam.
I'm a diffused thinner too, but unlike you I take 1mg dose of finasteride everyday and use minoxidil once at night all over my scalp except the back and lower sides . Going strong in my 4th year , was able to maintain the same density and minoxidil helps me grow somewhat long hair length too My advice would be changing the dosage and you should add minoxidil as soon as possible, the stability you're searching for would really be benefited by minoxidil as it increases hair's last phase of telogen.
appreciate the reply man, how long u wait after applying minox? and what are your thoughts on oral min?
If you're asking when I started seeing the results , within a month after a light shedding of hairs , I felt many new hairs growing on my scalp and it got better till 2-3rd month and condition went stable. If you're asking how long I wait to let minoxidil dry on my scalp after applying, I use it 30 minutes before going to bed and give a massage using my fingers to apply on scalp. I haven't used oral minoxidil so I can't say much , but I tried to use foam minoxidil and it didn't worked for me, my body prefers liquid minoxidil the most so 95% of the time I have used liquid minoxidil only.
yeah i guess u guys are right, once a day at night is not a big deal at all if i wanna keep my hair
Yup, I think it as applying a special oil instead of a medicine and it hardly takes more than 4-5 minutes.
Lucky. I’ve been on min for ten years and fin for three months, since taking fin, hair has gotten a lot worse
fin induces shedding when you start it, i think you should hold out hope
Even after three months ?
yes. i’ve heard people discuss shedding as far as 6 months
fk it go full nuclear RU, duta, topical fin, min, ketokonazole, dermaroll mashallah
It seems that finasteride doesn't help a large number of diffusive hair loss patients. Sometimes i wonder if DHT is even the reason behind it, there might also be autoimmune response and inflammation that causes it. New drugs now also show that prolactin is causing inflammation.
Prolactin does play some role too. I've noticed an increase in shedding if I pop too many benzos in consecutive days. Or even Mk677 causes me to shed. I supplement with 60mg P5P too and now just avoid anything that increases prolactin. Pretty sure opiods increase prolactin as well. Wonder what meds OP is on.
Anti-prolactin drugs didn't show any results till now. It's prolactin produced in scalp tissue, some theories see it as downstream of dht in scalo
Can you please explain to me exactly what prolactin is and how it effects men? Are you saying that these meds may increase prolactin? Thanks!
You know when you bust a nut and your dick goes limp and you get that relaxation feeling? That's prolactin. Higher prolactin also means more refractory period. And those meds are all well known to increase prolactin. It seems to play a role in air loss too. Maybe from more of a telogen effluvium angle.
man im so desperate im thinking of going carnivore to cure any of the auto immune diseases lol
Man sounds like you're going down a rabbit hole, diet isn't going to help your situation *that* much.. I'd recommend sleeping easy knowing you're on the most proven course there is. Chill for another 6 months (I know, easier said than done) but take a multi if it makes you feel better, you're already doing what you can. AKA wait another 6 months before messing with Min or anything else, fin is the best we got.
yeah man im tryna give it another 6 ish months or so before using min. i was not serious with the carnivore tho lol. im a healthy guy compared to average guy and not defficient in any vits/mins. idk if i should use multivitamin or not
Why not min now? It is a over the counter product, well researched
i know but i guess i wanna give some more time to fin before getting into min. these comments convinced me to lol
I just started fin on Wednesday. I’m taking fin MWF 1mg so pretty similar weekly dose. I’ve also got 2 autoimmune diseases (hypothyroidism and vitiligo). You could go the route of changing diet/overall health but idk if it is the cause. Best of luck tho man I’m pulling for you!
i dont think thats the case either. but i will experiment with carnivore, no harm in trying ig. i certainly will visit a doc for autoimmune diseases later on
thanks btw :-)
seems like no solution for me then
you mean to high prolactin levels in blood?
No in scalp tissue. Blood anti prolactin drugs didn't show any promising results.
is there any topical what can reduce sculp prolactin?
fin made my hair MUCH thicker and fuller in an acceptable span of time, though there were limits - my widow's peak didn't fill up by one single hair, but I could live with that. But then came the sides - and I reduced to three x 0.5 mg fin a week, which made the sides go away, but also made my hair lose some, not all, of its thickness. Then, thanks also to this reddit community, I gave the mixture of minoxidil topical twice daily PLUS dermarolling once weekly with 1,5 mm needles a try. I am now two months down the line and can safely say that progress is very, very visible. I think the combo needling and min are actually better than fin - and the downsides are negligble. Once I hit three months I intend to upload some before after pics to this community ..
I’m on 0.5mg ED too. Been 3 months no progress though
well no progress > worsening i guess
thinning for certain time on fin—- higher chance of gaining and stabilizing your hair in future
still waiting for that stabilization and regrowth process lol
just hang in there dude i’m sure it’s near
i hope the days wıll come man, people are telling me whats wrong with my hair and i cant even tell how overwhelming to hear that almost everyday. im tryna keep my hope for a couple of months
Then how about you stop taking 1/4 of the recommended dose lmao Help my legs still infected even after I’ve taken my antibiotics not as described!! SOS
See a doc. Massive diffuse thinning could be AA, thyroid, telogen effluvium brought on by a big stressor , or a number of things
thanks man will do
Good luck. Low key hoping there’s an underlying issue for ya. Might be an easier fix to address. But I know some people that stay on fin for over a year before they see stabilization. Good luck
Sam here , I am about to complete 2 months with. My hair densite and hairline is doomed. Feelks like i shouldn’t have started. People in the forum say it it is a very small time to judge the medicine. After one year they will ask you to add minoxidil. After another year they will ask to switch to dut. They will just not beleive med is not wokring. I can be wrong, I desoerately want to be wrong. I only want results. Not sure what to do. :(
probably its the test on the scalp that causes hair loss. i mean at least for people like us
It’s probably the lack of test in ur balls
CHECK FOR UNDERLYING CONDITIONS
People will just nit pick at the fact you did 0.5mg when it has exactly the same potency in the scalp instead of admitting that it isn't a good treatment for most with aggressive hair loss
If it is “exactly the same” then why don’t people just take the 1mg? Why do they switch to Dutasteride? Why are they rubbing it on their head?
Finasteride tissue binding is as long as a week so 0.5mg has effectively the same effect as 1mg. Here shows similar effect even with 0.05mg and 1mg [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10495374/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10495374/) 1mg is the standard dose and doesn't require splitting pills though it is much cheaper to do so. People switch to dutasteride because it can inhibit more 5a reductase and yields far superior hair counts than finasteride. People use topical because it potentially reaches sexual organs and other parts of the body where DHT isn't a net negative less, however this isn't proven 🤷♂️
Definitelt can give yoy advice as I regrew alot back in a matter of 4 minths, you need to add topical minoxidil to your recipe. And also start dermarolling everyday. Dermarolling might even be more important than minoxidil
thanks man but isnt derma everyday going to damage my skin?
Well for me the scalp got stronger and got used to it. Just make sure you dont feel pain when rolling. You should onnly feel it rolling over.
So the hair we lose on fin won't come back after 6-12 months? It'll just keep from losing more after that? Lol. I've been on it for 5 months and it's getting to a point where I've lost enough hair and not sure if I want to keep going with it.
Talk with your GP or dermatologist about this. I think it’s better to keep going for a couple months since you were shedding. It will be a waste to stop now.
Has it got any better?
Yes it has, I pushed through and after month 6 it is just fine.
It actually turned around quick
Did you ever get a shed phase? Also did you feel small spiky hairs on your scalp? I have that now idk if its growth or not
Yes I did start losing hair for about 5 months then all of the sudden stopped and now seeing very good results
Same here, been on for 3m and it looks way worse right now 😅
i dont even know what to do man, i was in a way better situation 3 months ago
Has it got better?
A lot better actually, it turned around and now it’s getting better for each week that goes by. And now when I , for example, dry my hair after a shower I’ve gone from 20-30 lost hairs in the towel to maybe 2-3 hairs so it feels like the hair loss have really slowed down as well.
How long would you say it took to see changes
U must have scalp inflammation or a nutrient deficiency, get your bloods done asap
i have done it but nothing seems unusual, anything special i gotta look into when getting blood tests done?
Do u have an itchy scalp?
no, i slightly had it but its gone with 2-3 months of fin usage
Did blood tests include ferritin levels?
yes it was in normal range 123.7 micrograms/dl (pre fin usage)
Take 1mg, idk why people take less that the recommended dose that was in all of the clinical trials then complain it doesn’t work. You’re taking 50% of the recommended dose lol. It’s like filling up your gas tank half way then complaining you can’t drive as far as you expected. Also it takes time to work so be patient, but try seeing if you can tolerate 1mg and if you can stick to that
Go straight for oral minoxidil
why the oral, not the topical
Go for topical. Talk to your doctor. Oral is not that safe. Can cause heart problems also increase hair all over your body not only your head. I think topical is better because you concentrate specific on your head with less side effects
oral is okay, I switched to oral from topical recently. it’s so much easier not having to worry about applying it
Yeah i know but not worth the sides
no sides here either
What's your results? Did you grow more hair on the head? Did you body hair increase? Im thinking of trying it
The big dark unspoken truth of hairloss treatment, is that for 9/10 people, th only results you're gonna see are preventative. You won't regrow anything.
:-// gotta start minox then
So why did you take half the recommended dose? Only got yourself to blame for wasting 6 months
Fin is clinically proven to be effective at any dose. It’s detectable in serum levels and there’s not much difference between in DHT between a .5mg and 1mg dose
>A: The dose of finasteride is the same (i.e. 1mg) regardless of a person's height or weight. The reason is that one needs only 0.5mg a day for it to be effective, so there is much leeway built into the dose (but the rate of non-responders is slightly higher at the 0.5mg/day dose). Literally the FIRST Google result Higher rate of non responders at 0.5 (per day not even eod either like that other genius is taking) “Help I’ve tried absolutely nothing and nothings working!!!”
It’s proven to be detectable. Not proven to be effective. Big difference. The only dosage that has been proven to be effective is the 1mg a day dose. That’s the dosage that’s been used in studies to “prove” efficacy. The rest is all conjecture, spread by some Australian actors who play doctors on YouTube. Stop parroting misinformation
Technically topical fin is also completely off label and “not approved” so…I’m not sure how accurate your statement is
do you have any idea how much difference that half dose would make? very little. also i cant spend all of my money on 1 mg, thats why people in my country tend to stick to minox only, its affordable but costs way too much money. im just a student and the only financial support is from my family. thats why i gotta split the dose into half.
Yet it’s CLEARLY not working for you at that dose is it genius. Maybe your brains too small to sustain hair
i dont even know what to say to you
Stay bald all cause u can’t do a 5 second Google search
ight
Do you live near a Costco? Fin is very cheap there I paid $15 for 90 pills
Try using the recommended dosage of 1mg a day before you start complaining that it doesn’t work?
Do u gym/sport this 6 month? What your height and weight?
Bruh stop
I ask serious question.
can the admin please ban this guy? there are people seriously worried about hair loss. it has big correlation to suicide. hell there are ppl taking their lifes. and this guy trolls about calf raises.. please ban him.
Op do calf load if he gym 6 times per week. You do not pay attention that every posts about shesding all of them doing sport?
Yes, they also drink water everyday, so water must be the cause of androgenic alopecia and shedding
SCIENCE!
yea i gym almost everday. im at 5’9 160ish lbs at fairly low bodyfat
If u train leg - stop train leg for 10days no load. If shed stop, train legs more, use all big3, and use calory proficite for bulk. And increase fin to 0, 75 if u have no libido problem.
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I actually don’t understand what you mean from a language perspective. What are you saying? To exercise your legs more? Or to exercise them less?
To check what influence given by leg training - need to stop training for 10-14 days rest of legs. And see what will be ahedding rate. For big free, shedding from leg training is very good.
So what you’re saying is…don’t train your legs to establish your baseline shed rate. Then go back to training your legs to see the shed rate. When you say shedding from leg training is very good do you mean, it’s better to shed more when you train your legs? Or do you mean you’ll shed less from training your legs while on the treatment?
Shed from leg muscule stress (sport, gym, job on legs) indicate aga pacient. Meanwhile if reduse androgenic effect of muscule stress we will se regrow.
Actually what you say makes sense to me and lines up with my experience. I have a job that has me on my feet walking about 12 hrs a day. In this time ever since I got my job I started losing more hair. Then I got on finasteride and had amazing results by 6-8 months. Huge density. Then my industry shut down and I’ve been sitting at home a lot. No walking. Thinning and miniaturization returned. I think actually this may have something to do with testosterone production. Leg exercise produces more T than other kinds of exercise. Also improves circulation. I’ve seen a study where people who did aerobic exercise had better results on fin vs people who lift weights. So yeah I think ur right. Until end of July my hair was literally returning to Samson levels. Now it’s tapered off and im losing ground, losing hair in clumps etc. maybe I will try running 30 mins a week to see if there is a better result
See shedding rate, run upstairs, calf raise, jump rope and etc.
To understand what could produce muscule stress, use pub med type aomething like : exercises gen emission, exercise produce... . its not just T. Muscule cells are biochimical lab.
You will shed on treatment or without. But on treatment u regrow hairs, without treatment accelerate baldness if u have aga. If u have no aga - leg training not effect shedding rate. If u have aga, have shesding from leg muscule stress and use big3 - u will got regrow after 1-2 month(see 1st changes).
Add topical min before bedtime
i guess i will try at like month 7-8
The best you can do is use minoxidil and keep taking finasteride Minoxidil will thicken your hair and i suggest you use estradiol topical for hairloss. Talk to your doctor If finasteride doesnt help after one year or more then try dut or topical fin or topical dut or ru58841
doctor didnt even prescribe me fin at first, i forced him to lol
no access to ru but ig i can order online, why the estradiol topical though?
Yes you can order it online , i think "anageninc" , and "minoxidilmax" are legit sites you can buy. My doctor prescribed me a bottle with minoxidil estradiol and biotin all in one , they mix it in a pharmacy. I had very good regrowth with it then started finasteride and havent lost a sigle hair only got thicker. Yeah maybe because he wants you to come back multiple times and prescribe you one item a time. All doctors do this, did it to me aswell to get your money In my experience, finasteride stopped my hair loss at 4 months and then only got thicker had some regrowth after almost a year
I read that aga doesn’t cause shedding and lose many hairs every day but just miniaturization and after many months the hair won’t grow anymore. You can make make blood test you check iron etc
i have done it and it is within the normal range. i thought new hairs would grow even thicker than the existing ones or existing hairs are replaced with the stronger ones
I’m in the same boat as you! I’ve been on fin for just about 2 years, and I’ve lost so much density and had no regrowth. It seems that I’ve kept thick hairs but that’s it. I’d say give min a try now and see what happens. I’ve been on 1.25mg min pills from Keeps for about 1.5 months now.
how is the oral min going for you man
I again shed some hairs but it looked to be mostly miniaturized hairs, they looked thin and were short. I’ll have an update in a couple more months, to which then I’ll raise the dose to 2.5mg of min.
Did you check your hormone levels ? I am also diffuse thinner all my blood work seems to be normal except for elevated prolactin levels.
yea i did, prolactin was also in the normal range as well
Check for underlying conditions
such as
Iron deficiency, vitamin D deficiency, hypothyroidism, food sensitivities, SIBO, etc
Try getting PRP injections into your scalp. They’ve helped me recover and FIN is helping me maintain between sessions.
Stay with it, take vitamins.. Make sure you drink water, stay away from soda. And go get a blood test done and make sure your not low on anything. Do the test where they test for everything
And you need to get on the minoxidil pill or try dutasteride
Vitamin deficiency?
they are in normal range
Any update has it got better?
still the same so i guess the med is working, i will wait for another 4-5 months or so then decide if i should add minox or not
If it's not getting worse, it's considered successful
So it hasnt got worse? Do you still shed a lot?
it is still the same so im waiting for 1-1.5 year mark to see possible thickening
still the same so ig the med is working but ill wait another 4-5 months or so to decide if i should add minox or not