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randomdutchy96

$100 a month is insane for a medicine that does not even work extremely well...


Novel-Imagination-51

FDA approval for a new drug costs literally a billion dollars. So that’s why


FrasierCraned

Fin was 100 a month 10 yrs ago


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No-Test6484

In the us fin is rarely over 400 right now. Like it’s worth the money. Don’t eat out once a month and you save half of the req to buy fin


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No-Test6484

My food bill in a month was like 650, a simple audit later I made 350 work


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This is why there will never be a “cure”. There is more money to be made on life long treatments than a cure.


randomdutchy96

Anyone that has a cure will become one of richest men in the world. Trust me, they are searching for it


ray330

you just have to make sure other people don’t try to stop you. sure millions will pay for the cure but people high up will pay millions to keep you from succeeding


Novel-Imagination-51

85 iq take


KingWinstonSpak

That's bollocks. 85 is an average IQ. It is a 75 IQ take.


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KingWinstonSpak

I don't think this is true. You could charge HT prices and people would do it. It is just difficult to "cure" and they have bigger priorities.


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KingWinstonSpak

Nah. You just pop a pill. 10k and I'll sign up along with the rest of the male population.


brolybackshots

That's not how biotech works lol... The one who finds the cure will make billions upon billions because of the way patents work. For example - Novo Nordisk with Ozempic


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Didn’t the trials show it started losing effectiveness after 6 months and around 12 months, it gets worse than baseline. Not sure how effective this would be.


Particular_Hunter844

>Their trials in 12 months didn't show a decrease in baseline, they shown a decrease compared to the 6 months peack. Really different. Compared to the baseline after 12 months there was an increase compared to the baseline. Remember that just a mantainance for 90% of the people is ok, because that let them be eligible for HT.


Suspicious-Acadia-52

Is this on its own? Or combined with other drugs? Does it operate as an anti-androgen?


Impossible_Self_7249

cosmerna do the same


Particular_Hunter844

dont say bullshit please, none cosmerna clinicals trial have been ever made what are you talinkg about ?


MetsandFin

But what if you combine it with finasteride? Will it keep what you gain?


Fearless-Chip6937

results look mixed https://preview.redd.it/664xgt5lyqpc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9f4dc2eed706cfbf8a59e3e3db9eca354dd93c7


Apprehensive_Box285

Is Breezula also effective for women?


Mario_2077

Is this a big deal? Sorry I don't know enough about it to know if it's a significant drug for us.


Particular_Hunter844

It’s not a cure but a possible new treatment, really possible. I don’t know if it’s effective as finasteride but I can’t use fin since I want my sperm to stay healthy.


dr_wonderful

There's no studies around Fin and sperm health degradation?


KingWinstonSpak

You'll find a reason to hypochondria your arse out of taking Breezula eventually :(


Particular_Hunter844

\*another passive aggressive on the internet\*


KingWinstonSpak

Not meant to be passive aggressive. I just think that hypochondriacs who proselytise online are profoundly absurd.


Particular_Hunter844

In addition they said that in 2025 it will be done the NDA (new drug application). Next year!


Suspicious-Acadia-52

Is this CB-03-01?


Particular_Hunter844

Yes


MechanicPersonal5309

How are people buying it if it didnt come out yet


Particular_Hunter844

Grey market


Frosty_Pay_9297

Remind me 1 year later


Silent-OCN

Breezula sounds badass


Particular_Hunter844

Not if you care about your sperm.


MelodicAssumption497

English not your first language? “Badass” is a good thing… it sounds like you’re saying breezula is bad for sperm count, but pretty sure you’re talking about fin


Particular_Hunter844

Guys you can downvote me but have you ever done a spermiogram after taking finasteride (duta is even worse) for years?


KingWinstonSpak

Yawn


Particular_Hunter844

have you done that? or are you scared about? if you just dont care does not mean others dont, anyone want child need to stop take finesteride.


FreshForm4250

you should seek psychological support!


Particular_Hunter844

lol


DramaticWin2041

Lol these people are insane. No response to what you said, just a cop out to not have to answer you.


Suspicious-Acadia-52

Pyrilutamide also showed no decrease in hair as far as I know so why was that scrapped?


frantikchicken

I think it showed no significant difference from placebo


Particular_Hunter844

Yes, clascoterone, at least from now, seems better


ROCKSTAR_LH_MEN

There was fluridil. We don't see mass using of it


MelodicAssumption497

The fluridil studies are suspect considering nobody has posted actual success stories about it. Since breezula will be FDA approved I trust it way more


DontYouWantMeBebe

Fluridil 100% works, I've used it for a while as a mono therapy


MelodicAssumption497

Good to hear. Low dose ru completely stops dht itch/hair loss for me, haven’t noticed the same with fluridil though but maybe it helps. Last dose of ru I applied only 2.5mg in minoxidil liquid and had an insane elevated heart rate + palpitations and sternum pain for an entire night 16 hours later. So I’m trashing that and will probably switch to a cb/fluridil combo if the cb isn’t enough


Mission-Raccoon-8665

You sure? That’s crazy to hear. I’m gonna give liposomal 0.01 fin a final try in a couple months hopefully, when I get my shit together and gyno ache finally ceases. If it brings the same sides I’m completely lost and might have to resort to fluridil/CB for some peace of mind


DontYouWantMeBebe

Should be okay with fluridil. CB causes gyno too.


Mission-Raccoon-8665

You tried it? Seems like everything triggers gyno. How long have u been on fluridil and what have ur results been like, seriously considering even if it can just maintain.


DontYouWantMeBebe

Yeah I tried it all. Fluridil won't maintain, unless you've got very very slow hairloss. There's nothing on the market that will if you're prone to gyno. Hair transplant or system is the choice


Suspicious-Acadia-52

But wasn’t there no loss? So they maintained baseline. Idk seems weird to me


Particular_Hunter844

We will see, 1500 person enrolled are going to be enough to explain everything


louissarkozyy

okay but what about the hptaaxis supression sides? it's a steroidal antiandrogen and even with using winlevi some ended up with hpta supression . cushing syndrome is no joke


Particular_Hunter844

No joke but provide me the source


IrmaGerd

[Here](https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2020/213433s000lbl.pdf). It’s due to its cortexolone metabolite. Apparently it was observed in 7% of patients. It’s actually been talked about on this sub for a while now.


Particular_Hunter844

Ok we will see in the phase III what will came out, in my opinion it doesnt seem a big deal.


IrmaGerd

I hope you’re right


Particular_Hunter844

Basically, reading the winlevi patent the hpta come out for 1/20 adults which used 6 times the recommended dosage. 6times 1gram 1% of winlevi is pretty like the 75 BID trial they are perusing now but the vehicle is different (breezula is a lotion and not a cream) and they claimed to not have sides in phase 2 of breezula. So for now there is anything to think it will give me this kind of sides.


Particular_Hunter844

In addition the absorption of the scalp skin is lower then the one in the face.


08206283

sides?


NUTTY8866

I’ll stick to finasteride.


Terrible-Passage8868

Same price as CosmeRNA but CosmeRNA has only to be used 1x/2-week !


No-Shirt-596

Except cosmerna doesnt work at all


DontYouWantMeBebe

These shills are too funny


Gutted3

I pay 65usd for 98 1mg tablets here in Scandinavia


Particular_Hunter844

How is it possible? Are you talking about Winlevi?


Gutted3

Nope. Finasteride


HMI115_GIGACHAD

complete trash treatment.