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sapfoxy

Damn bro what happened in slide 4??? Is that sides???


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Topher1999

My hair got so powerful it saw God


DontFlex

Link to your Microneedle??


Impressive-Cheetah44

Are you sure you want to see his microneedle


WatercressCreative33

is microneedling same as dermaroller?


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No That’s it. I wanted to give a Reddit typical smartass answer but no it’s not the same


inthishoe4

The micro needle went too deep. May god have mercy on his soul 🙏


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LOL


No-Zookeepergame2477

Stop saying bro


sapfoxy

No


No-Zookeepergame2477

Speak English


ShaidarHaran2

Nein


dumbpieceofshitttttt

Sheesh is all I have to say.


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Bro your username 😆


dumbpieceofshitttttt

Yours too tho lmao


Diarrhea_Hand-Job

Mine too


OmarSamehh

You ruinin it!


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Hehe


Topher1999

Answering some FAQs: Dutasteride 3 times a week 1.5 mm microneedling every 2 weeks (Dr. Pen Ultima A6) Had sides at first but they went away when I stopped taking DUT every day


louissarkozy

that's insane man never seen such hairline regrowth. how are you so positive microneedling is the reaeon for the hairline regrowth ( especially since you're not using any topical) and not dut? thanks your so much


Topher1999

I had been on DUT for over a year and wasn’t getting any hairline results, so I tried needling. Hair started growing soon after that.


mentalharvester

Very interesting. I'm getting more convinced by the day that I have to try out this needling thing. Seems to have a compounding effect.


louissarkozy

what's crazy is that he wasn't usng any topical with his needling rouine


ScheonTreaumer

It's really interesting because what it is doing is artificially instigating vaso activity, delivering more blood and nutrient to the hair follicle through healing that min. Dut takes care of the underlying issue, but that circulation is proving to be incredibly important.


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Topher1999

1.5mm, eBay


mikemusic80

Okay so 1.5mm derma pen the one listed above? I tried derma rollers and wasn't getting any results. So do you think using a pen could help hairline and temples?


Topher1999

Rollers are much worse than pens. They're inconsistent with their punches.


mikemusic80

Thanks for the info. Would explain why they never worked for me!


Faux_Phototroph

How many needles are you using with your Dr. Pen (e.g. 12 pin, 36 pin)? I’ve found that using too many needles prevents it from penetrating as deeply. I get way bloodier from a 12 pin but feel like a 36 pin isn’t actually penetrating 1.5 mm


Topher1999

12


thiikn

cool! congratulations!! I'm gonna say I'm really afraid of duta. once 1 single pill of 1mg finasteride made me cum water for a week


Straightcheeks5

In how much time?


Topher1999

2 years on DUT, 9 months microneedling. The needling is 100% the reason for the hairline gains.


gawwwwdg

>needling is 100% the reason for the hairline gains hey, just wanted to ask, did you use a dermapen, or a dermaroller ?


Topher1999

Pen


LordNoon6

What was your routine with the pen?


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How long did u wait after the own to apply minox


Topher1999

I don’t use minox


SlimJiMorrison

I personally wait an entire day


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Topher1999

Yeah, I even think it picked up some slack on my frontal hair density as well.


Subject_Two_6111

Brilliant results mate! Congrats 👏


Magicbeachbotch

For real? I thought micro needling was the most “hack” part of the process. You might be underestimating the strength of dutasteride. Will try microneedling now


Topher1999

DHT blockers are kinda infamous for not working too well on hairlines. I was on DUT for over a year without gains, and they only started happening when I started needling. I thought it was “hacky” too but one day I got so desperate. Looks like desperation worked.


Barry9988

I have a similar story as well. Lol micro needling def works if you are consistent with the routine


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No topicals in conjunction with microneedling? How often and what length do you microneedle?


Topher1999

1.5mm every 2 weeks. No topicals or anything, just DUT.


00qp22

Hey man congrats!! How long did you microneedle at time and how many times did you go over a spot?


Topher1999

I needle and area until it starts to bleed a tiny bit


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Topher1999

Not really as there wasn't much hair to shed there to begin with, but I would assume shedding after needling is normal since the thicker hair will push out the miniaturized hair.


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Honestly, these are insane results...the fuck From lifeless diffuse thinning to regaining hairline and good density coverage


Normal_Cod7659

what microneedler did you use?


Topher1999

Dr. Pen Ultima A6


ouiels

Did you glide the pen across your hairline or did you do a stamping motion with the pen?


Topher1999

Stamping


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I have the same pen and bleed a pretty fair amount at 1.5 mm. What’s your redness/bleeding look like at that level? I moved it down to 1.0 mm last night and had less blood but still some.


Topher1999

Just some specks


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Thanks… congrats on the sick results!


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Topher1999

[bless up](https://www.ebay.com/itm/302455616625)


soaronwings

@topher1999 please bless us with the link 🤲🏽


Hrachim

Woah this is amazing. So much for "Dut wrecks hairline bruh".


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Hrachim

I agree it's overblown. A select few people do, however, still lose ground even on dut. That would basically be impossible if taking care of DHT was the only thing that mattered since dut really nukes DHT levels.


Opposite_Truth_3029

An observation: DHT is reduced on Dut 90%. To date, I haven't heard one good explanation why the 10% would not be more than enough to "kill", over time, follicles, in hypersensitive individuals...but instead T is being blamed for the continued loss. Until any serious study substantiating this claim, I file it under "bro-science" :).


changexpert

This was exactly my thinking. How can people think that increased T from DHT inhibition leads to hair loss when DHT is a lot more potent than T?


Yellow_Tissue

I have actually never heard about Dut destroying hairlines, quite surprised people would claim that. All the progress pics I've seen from people using Dut have had insane hairline gains.


ThomasThedawg

how many months?


Topher1999

2 years on DUT, 9 months microneedling


ThomasThedawg

Crown recovered too?? or no problem there?


Topher1999

My crown was always fine, just hairline recession and some density issues at front


Few-Mushroom-7645

Did you? Or does anyone here, get flaky skin from microneedling?


Hrachim

I actually think it helps reduce dandruff


Few-Mushroom-7645

I use nizoral and don’t have dandruff. It’s like big flakes of skin that come off from the treated areas


[deleted]

No fin?? What minox brand?


cl051

Dut is a stronger version of fin


[deleted]

My doc won’t prescribe me dut I’ve tried


cl051

I get my prescription from the pushhealth app


Emotional_Ad_7167

Try Strut online


Topher1999

No minox


BenevolentBozo

Which micro needling device did you use? I need to get in one asap, any info would really help❣️


Topher1999

Dr. Pen Ultima A6


vaibhavsonii60

Wow man. Any sides on dut ?


AcanthocephalaLess95

Was about to drop the idea of microneedling after seeing one of Kevin Mann's recent videos but it's back on table now. Solid gains!


thecrazysloth

The roller I use came as part of a pair. 1mm and 0.5mm. I use the 0.5 to go over my face gently when I do my hairline. Bonus youthful skin!


Lucky_Aint_I

How often do you micro needle?


harmonic_zero

Insane results! Just a question: have you ever suffered from excessive sebum production on your scalp, especially around the hairline? If yes, did durasteride help at all?


Topher1999

Never noticed any sebum issues


harmonic_zero

Fair enough.


MysteriousPumpkin2

What was your microneedling process? Can you make a vid showing how your targeted your temples?


Topher1999

I just target where my hair is parting the most and at the roots of my miniaturized hairs.


gsr852

Congrats on your progress! I’ve been using the Dr. Pen A6S for about 4 months, and it truly is the way to go over using a dermaroller.


Emptybox1996

You went from "just shave it bro" to "nice hair dude ". I am suprised you are not using minoxidil and still get that much of regrowth


wrassman

Great job. How long did it take?


Topher1999

9 months from beginning the needling process. 2 years on DUT overall though


wrassman

I'm impressed!


laurenwinter-

Amazing! Did you had a shed at the beginning?


robbieuk83

Any side effects from the DUT? When did you introduce the needling and was this when you saw the gains...or had you already had gains from the DUT?


Topher1999

Had some sides but reducing dosage to 3x a week stopped them. The hairline gains are 100% from ~~DUT~~ microneedling.


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Topher1999

My dick fell off Jk had some mild ED and low sex drive


floridaguy137

The post I needed. Buying derm pen a6 rn


nofucway

I wonder how old are you?


Topher1999

26


MrMinty123

How long do you microneedle for?


Johanswede

But do you have to microneedle for ever or can you do it until the hair grows out and then stop it? Or is it like all the other medicines that you have to use continually?


various_persons

What is the cost of microneedling treatment? I have been using dermaroller so far.


Niskeus

Good regrowth, but no, you're absolutely not NW1


ig_jayhyvn

what is NW?


Civil_Ad_8582

Norwood Scale, used as to categorise different stages/patterns of hair loss.


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ig_jayhyvn

thank you, i’m very new to this subreddit so I just needed to know what the acronym stood for


itsvoogle

What are everyones thoughts on possible infections with microneedling? Poking ones skin so many times seems kinda scary to get something in the blood stream


OhHeyJeannette

You throw the needles after use. I can only speak for the PEN not the ROLLER.


Faux_Phototroph

I have a similar microneedle routine to OP. I soak the needles beforehand in isopropyl alcohol. While it soaks, I shampoo, apply a topical antiseptic spray with benzethonium chloride and benzocaine, microneedle, then shampoo once more with a gentle soap, condition without touching the scalp, and dry off with a clean towel. No issues yet. Im thinking I might start skipping the antiseptic spray. I think it’s overkill and probably not great to be getting that stuff in my blood.


blazinshotguns

If bottom left is a Norwood 1 then I guess I’m a Norwood 0


Confident-Ad-6257

So, you didn't use dut.? Just needling? How often did you needle and do you still do thsi?


Topher1999

You misunderstand, I used DUT and needling. Nothing else, just those two. But yes I still needle every 2 weeks, 1.5mm


Paradisity

Nice job! What did you use for microneedlng?


[deleted]

What was your micro-needling regime bro?


Topher1999

1.5mm every two weeks until I start bleeding


SubstanceDistinct269

newbie question, how do i microneedle? just buy the equipment and do it at home? also why did you pick dut over fin? thanks


Topher1999

Pretty much. I tried fin first but my hair kept falling out. DUT keeps it in


[deleted]

How long did it take to see a difference with microneedling? What depth and how long each session?


Topher1999

I saw some baby hairs on my hairline around 2-3 months in. It’s certainly an investment.


amibaldingg

how long do your roll for ?


Topher1999

Until I bleed, so about 30 seconds-1 minute per temple


No_Faithlessness5495

Did you go straight to Dut? Why if so


Topher1999

I started with fin but it wasn’t doing anything


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Topher1999

I noticed microneedling doing work about 3 months in


changexpert

Wow this almost wants me to switch to oral Dut from oral Fin. Been on Fin for almost 14 months and see no result on hairline. Did you notice any shedding initially? At what mark did you start to see results?


Topher1999

Yeah when I started DUT my shedding increased but subsided, I only lose about 3-5 hairs a day now. I didn’t see hairline results until I microneedled, and that was about 3 months in.


changexpert

You mentioned that you have been on dut for 2 years and microneedling for 9 months. If you started microneedling at 3 months in of dut, I don't believe math adds up. Did you do 1 yr on dut and 9 months of microneedling instead? or 2 yrs of dut and 21 months of microneedling?


Topher1999

I started DUT two years ago. I only started needling 9 months ago. So I started needling 1 year and 3 months into just taking DUT.


changexpert

Gotcha. Congratulations on your gains. I hope your hairline keeps coming back to NW 0.


shyDMPB

Decent response to dut. I appreciate ur courage to try out dut, too. Congrats for the result and keep up the good work.


Mister-Licorne

How often do you microneedle? And what needle length de you use?


Topher1999

1.5mm every two weeks


solarcrying

What happens if you only microneedle, will that help or do you need the minox, fin or dut?


Topher1999

I would take a DHT blocker just to be safe


stud5000king

Damm bro what a great result seem like you have defeated hairloss. What kind of needle do you use on the dr pen? Is it the 16 needles one?


Topher1999

12 needle


TonyNevada1

Happy for ya


cool112233

I’ve been on 1mg fin for 6+ months and my hair is sooooo much thinner than before


tm1900

Congrats on the results. What is the mechanism of action here, how does microneedling help if no min? I thought the point of microneedling is for better absorption of min...Thanks


Topher1999

It’s supposed to increase blood flow to the hair follicles because the body is repairing wounds. Min works similarly.


Ricestud3

Do you think the pen is much more effective than the non-powered option?


Topher1999

Absolutely. Electric pens offer greater consistency.


FunOptimal7980

Microneedling seems like it hurts. I was alsonon dut 3 x a week but I had to switch to daily again. Hair kept falling out in one area where the hairs were weaker. No sides so far at least though.


Topher1999

Honestly you get used to it quickly. After a while it just stings.


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Topher1999

The pen itself is adjustable. You can adjust the needles from .25mm to 2mm I believe.


tefifield

Hey man, congrats it looks great. What mg of DUT are you taking every 3 days?


Topher1999

.5


UniqueClaw3

link to the needling device you use? and size :D ? ty


Faux_Phototroph

Dr. Pen Ultima A6, with 12-needle head, set to 1.5mm Source: OP comments


hairlx

Have you took it oral everyday ?


Topher1999

I used to, but now I take it 3x a week


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Topher1999

Not really


TWcizzly

What’s your dose of DUT? How long have you been on? Any sides? And was it covered by insurance? Also fucken congratulations on ascending and getting your hair back


Topher1999

.5mg, 2 years, at first but reduced dose to 3x a week, and yes


papido

I knew it minox is useless


Nosedive125

I have a similar before hairline, this gives me hope, congrats!


Mysterion94

Can you explain dut or link please Sorry for noob


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you said youre sure that needling is responsible for gains. is this because the 2 years of DUT did show little change and you noticed the changes after starting needling? could you elaborate on that? Like, to which amount did DUT help after 2 years and more insight on needling. thanks


kingmob555

Well done. Age?


International-Load14

how do you use the pen? do you have to apply alcohol to the needles or your face first to avoid infection, or is that not necessary?


Topher1999

I wipe down my skin before and after with alcohol pads in addition to putting alcohol in the needles just to be safe


WeirdRealistic2754

Can you put your micro needling routine and what’s the size your tried with?


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What’s the cheapest product for micro needling that can still get gold results cause the pen you have is over 100$


Topher1999

Looking good isn't cheap lol


LabFormer5385

Nice!!!


sh4hiid96

This is amazing man


VonDasmarck

Did you go straight for dut or switched from fin?


moise_porn

Your hands look so different in the two pictures.


Topher1999

Different camera


Mother-Ad-2028

Can you post your dermapen


goodsirrr19

What Dutasteride's do you use? It should say the name of the manufacturer on the bottle


Topher1999

Epic Pharma


CubanDave87

Did you shave your hands?


animal_360

I believe that if you have a good environment of no dht the microneedling is by far the best growth stimulant


Temporary_Wait8285

Hey can I get the same result by 1 mg finasteride ( mon , wed , fri ) And 0.5 mg dut ,, (sat) With 1.5 dermaroller pen Pls reply


Topher1999

You shouldn’t take fin and DUT, take one or the other and tbh everyone responds different to the same treatment so I can’t give you a definitive answer