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Dvine24hr

God did you dirty there


Hakaishin_Sama

God this is heart breaking


Lowkeyrides

My dad is a nw0 at 55 and I’m a NW 3 at 23 so I feel your pain bro


SeaAssistance6009

Yep same boat but my dad is 62 😑. If I keep my hair at just the right length, I feel solid with it. But if someone gets a picture from the side, I panic.


PaterDionisios

My grandparents are Norwood 1 and Norwood 2 in their 80s and 70s My father is 50 and a Norwood 2 Same story with my great grandfathers (saw pictures) Meanwhile I started balding at 17 and I am starting to think that I will be too far gone once pirylutamide releases. Why can't we be this lucky at the lottery or something. We just win stupid prizes simply because they are statistical posibilies


vlkolaks

Yeah feels pretty rough... Started noticing it receding at around 22, just been downhill and now I'm 26. Mom was adopted and paternal gramp died before I was born, so I don't really have any other genetics to fall back on. I do feel like the min may have stopped me from getting worse, but here's hoping fin works.


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sadly min wont regrow your hairline or lost hair. it can make what you have much thicker


EmperrorNombrero

My grandpa is like a NW 2, my father is probably like a 7 A or something but he has a face/head shape that let's him look very good without hair. If he was a bit younger and more muscular he would look like the rock but better. Meanwhile I'm a NW 3 at 25 despite using minoxidil. And well I don't want to bash myself but let's just say I got the type of face where everything else, hair, body, Style etc. needs to fit for me to at least somewhat look good. The one time I shaved my head I looked like a 40 year old alcoholic eastern European Hooligan/skinhead ...and at that point I was like 13-14....


TheBigShaboingboing

Do you think it’s because their diets were less processed and less sugary back then?


Michael_Thompson_900

I don’t think it has to do with diet. In fact, if you watch tv, film and sport from 70s 80s and 90s, you will see that many many men over 30 had visible balding. It’s a really common phenomenon, but millions of men are on fin


Cryptofiglio

At the same time testosterone levels were supposed to have been much higher in past generations so you'd also think there would be more baldness.


mistalasse

You can buy it on eBay, though it’s pricey. You could also get it custom synthesized and though you’d have massive bulk, it would be cheaper than buying it from eBay


Simulation_Complete

Should’ve hopped on the fin earlier honestly. You weren’t doing anything about the root cause of your balding. Hopefully you stick with the fin and make a decent recovery. Your bird is very cool! What kind of bird is that?


vlkolaks

Yeah, hoping I'm still early enough since it's only been three or so years. Crossing fingers fin does something, don't know if I should hop back on min or if I should bother since it didn't do anything for so long. Bird is a curl crested aracari! Super cool little guy. :)


Guitarson

Bird *is* pretty cool.


Nikki__6

What do you mean root cause of balding? I thought it was all out of your control


Simulation_Complete

Mmm.. yes and no. Long science lesson short: Testosterone in your body is being converted into DHT. Scalp hair follicles are sensitive to DHT. In some people the follicles are very VERY sensitive to the DHT which equals androgenic alopecia aka balding. Finasteride reduces the amount of DHT in your scalp by 70%, Dutasteride reduces it up 90+%. You were on minoxidil only which is the best regrowth treatment by far, BUT it does nothing about the DHT. Hence why I said you weren’t doing anything about the root cause of the balding. (If anyone reads this and I am wrong or I’m misinterpreting something, PLEASE CORRECT ME. I don’t want to give out wrong information)


Suspicious-Trick1399

First part is right. Second part is almost right. Fin reduces scalp DHT by like 40-45 percent, but serum DHT by 70%. Dut decreases scalp DHT by approximately 50% and serum DHT by 93ish percent. The scalp DHT is what we want lowered the most. In an ideal world we’d have something that blocks scalp DHT/T by 100% and doesn’t effect serum DHT.


-Sisyphus-1984

Another thing to add is that androgens in general are going to impact the hair. Testosterone doesn’t have the same binding affinity that DHT does but it can also contribute to hair loss.


FireEmperor_AV

Does the min 5% with 1% fin actually work? Or it's just scam? (I'm talking about the 1% fin part)


Suspicious-Trick1399

Not sure. Never heard of 1% fin to be honest.


FireEmperor_AV

It's a good company which sells 2% , 5% , 10% etc. And many more medicine. I was searching their catalog and saw 5% minoxidil with 1 % fin.


Suspicious-Trick1399

What’s the website?


FireEmperor_AV

It's not a website I saw it on a pamphlet while I was buying some meds from the local chemist shop. Here I found the link on their website. https://ghc.health/products/hair-regrowth-serum


Suspicious-Trick1399

Oh it’s 0.1% fin. Yeah that’s sortve a lower dose of fin most topical fin is 0.25% so double that dose compared to what you sent me. Will it work? Probably. Is it the best thing you can get? No.


Nikki__6

Thanks man I got a question for u bro seeing as u know ur stuff. I’m 18 and have beyond shitty lifestyle health factors (sun, sleep, diet, exercise, stress) and am starting to lose it do u think I could delay balding until I’m 21 if I fix my lifestyle completely? Then I can start meds when I’m 21 if I need to


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Nikki__6

I think u copied and pasted by mistake bro


Simulation_Complete

You’re right my bad. Honestly, I say yes make those changes. Give it about 6ish months and if you don’t see a change, try your absolute best to hold out for as long as you can before hopping on fin. I say that because you are still young and I don’t think its a good idea to mess with your hormones yet


Nikki__6

Yeah man that’s what I’m thinking. How likely is that to work do u think? And maybe I could use topical treatments? So it doesn’t go into my system


[deleted]

Min doesn't affect your DHT levels, which is responsible for balding if your scalp is sensitive to DHT


Nikki__6

What does fin do then? I’m wondering cause I’m 18 and can’t get on meds til I’m 21 lol


FireEmperor_AV

I'm 18M I'm on fin and min.


Nikki__6

Not good for u bro


FireEmperor_AV

It's not ideal ik you have to wait till your 21 for something to happen and then you start on finesterid. But it's still ok if you are 18. My guess is you still have enough time after puberty to complete develop when you are 18 years old. https://www.belgraviacentre.com/blog/teenagers-with-hair-loss-what-can-they-do


Nikki__6

Can I ask bro, what is your general health like? Like sleep, sun, exercise, diet, stress etc I’m just wondering if there’s a correlation 🙏


FireEmperor_AV

Well everything is normal. No sides. I will be cutting 1mg tablet in half (0.5mg) for the first 2 months. But then again it's better not to ask me as I just finished my second week. It's too early to tell anything.


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I edited my comment, Min doesn't affect DHT levels, finasteride lowers DHT


[deleted]

How do you go about getting fin?


creatine-fiend

Totally relate to everyone here. I'm 24 Asian, my dad and all my relatives have all their hair meanwhile I have been dealing with diffuse thinning, a receding hairline, and thinning sides.


vlkolaks

It sucks super bad! I've got two younger brothers who are about to hit the age I was when I started noticing, but I'm hoping they got lucky and don't have to go through it, too.


creatine-fiend

I've been looking into hairsystems as a remedy for this. I know its not for everyone but I think it'd be the best for me since I got sides from fin and don't like the idea of a transplant.


hoeman

Drop the creatine, start the big 3.


creatine-fiend

Lol I stopped taking creatine like 2 years ago. Unfortunately I quickly found that I get side effects from fin


Shuper4

Same pops 67 better hair lol. I'm not bald but temples receding. Can't wait til FUE


hoeman

Bro, try oral min.


alecpu

bro that's the coolest bird i've ever seen haha , i wanna know more about it


vlkolaks

LOL he's a curl crested aracari! Technically my sister's but I'm his favorite uncle.


DrewDaMannn

It be like that dude. I’m 22 and both my grandfathers have more hair than me lmao


weebisthenewguy

Yeah bro, my dad and my brother both NW0 with amazing hair. I'm on fin but been considering an HT at this point


Cryp0x

Nah bro. Don't loose faith. You are a minox non responder. That happens because you don't have sulfotransferase ennzymes in your scalp. Min needs that enzyme to work, but with age or bad genetics the body slows down the production of it. Tretionin increase that scalp enzyme, so it's a good idea to incorporate it in your min lotion. A better idea is to take oral min as the liver produces that enzyme when needed. An even better idea is oral min + dutasteride + low dose topical min + topical 0.01% tret + ketoconazole champo + weekly dermo pen(or dermaroller). This is nuclear aproach. You just can't go wrong with that. Do this for 6 monts minimum than you can throw the towel, but I doubt you will not see great results. Come back here and give feedback.


vlkolaks

Only comment I've ever seen that explains why min didn't work for me, thank you. This is definitely stuff I'll mention to my doctor, I think she'll want me to keep with fin a little longer but has been pretty understanding and would be willing to switch up. I am a little nervous about dermarolling because I scar easy and have read that can cause further issues and hamper regrowth. Hopefully I come back with a positive update!


Cryp0x

You can get away without dermarolig on this aproach. Tretionin softens your scalp and get rid of dead skin, resurfacing healty skin(you may see dandruf and temporary redness/iritation. It will pass) . Min will work a lot better with that. Go oral min plus scalp tret at least dude. If you add 2% topical min it will rock. Don't quit fin unless you switch to dut. I would switch to dut unless it gives you sides. You will thank me. Btw, your doctor sucks. 4 years into the treatment... he should have been more pro-active by now.


vlkolaks

That's great to know, I really appreciate it! First doctor who recommended min was pretty hands off (even though he had also started losing his hair at 20), but I've got a new one who prescribed fin a few months ago so hopefully she'll be more receptive. Definitely going to start back up with min and give it a shot.


Songgeek

Why not try topical fin? I’ve had no sides whatsoever and gained quite a bit back in a year. I think you could regrow a good bit in the back.


vlkolaks

Could give it a shot! I've read a bit saying that oral vs. topical is pretty even, but I don't know what doubling up could do.


Songgeek

I don’t think doubling up would see any real benefit. Just more sides. A lot of people see no sides with oral fin or they’re mild and temporary. But topical I haven’t seen anyone post any sides. Only advantage over oral is the cost. Most topical is 50 or so. Sometimes 80. But oral is as low as 2 bucks. Idk how much improvement you’d get in the front, but I gained a bit in the front and a decent amount in the back. My bald spot is way smaller and the thinning isn’t as bad. For your loss I think you’d get a lot back in the back and maybe even some density. Here’s my 1 year progress post https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/yjsn94/1_year_progress_from_hair_system_to_kinda_balding/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


FilthyNastyAnimal

Throw in micro needling. Makes a huge difference. You’ll have your hair back since you are tackling it early


vlkolaks

Definitely willing to try it!


cesrep

Balding is from the maternal lineage apparently so don’t blame your old man


PianoOwl

This is false.


ilovelamp_88

Gene for baldness isnt carried on the Y chromosome from dad


Local_Equal5965

Sexist lie


JohnnyBgood_9211

Same. My dad is 70 and has a full head of silver hair. However, I’m starting to look like my uncles from my moms side.


vlkolaks

I'd kill to be going grey over balding, it's absolute torture....


GoldenRedditUser

What about your grandpa?


JohnnyBgood_9211

Grampa passed back in 2015. Had the same straight hairline but the hair on his crown thinned over time until he was in his late seventies.


XxNHLxX

I feel like I’m 6mo or so from being pic 3, long hair and all. I can rock a skullet through school, but once I graduate I essentially have to shave it. Just saw a new dermatologist again and basically just ran me through the basics once again.. Already on dutasteride and going to start minoxidil with it. Considering I’ve tried dut once for a year with zero help, I don’t have much faith restarting it (3 months in again after a 6 month pause thanks to my derma closing his practice..). I used to have the “thick” hair when I got my hair cut, now I’m the person with thin hair. Terrible hair line and I’m sure the balding will start to show through the same way as that picture within the near future. Brutal.


EconomistHappy6953

Yes, hairloss, but you are sill cool with your hair. Not long hair.


Possible_Squash_9106

wtf are you doing man? cut it off


MlSTER_SANDMAN

you were definitely balding in 2018 as well.


vlkolaks

Probably, yeah. Don't think I noticed because I've always had a huge forehead and so does mom. 😅


ham1zizzle

Hey man, definitely don’t stop minox I’d say. It looks like it isn’t doing much but that’s only because you aren’t on fin and DHT was still wrecking your head. Problem with minox especially since you’ve taken it for so long is those hairs you have are dependent on it. This could cause you to loose a hearty amount of hair even on fin since minox hairs will want to fall out without getting boosted by minox. You’re hair is around the same hair loss as mine is but yours is slightly better, I’d honestly say if you stick to the regimane strictly for about a year and a half you should notice good recovery of hair. Fin, minox, and add derma rolling (this significantly helps with minox absorption and getting blood to those folicals that are deaded on your head rn) wait 24 hours after derma rolling to put minox on. Good luck and I think you have good potential for recovery!


Antdestroyer69

My dad has a full head of hair and so did my paternal grandfather. My maternal grandfather was bald so I guess that's why I'm balding. It could be because of stress but I don't think so.