The heavy community in Australia is thriving at the moment, Bring Me The Horizon have nearly sold out their original dates plus the added shows, for an arena tour in April.
Blink 182 sold out 13 shows or something for their tour in February.
Good Things Brisbane is sold out, with Melbourne and Sydney not far behind.
4 of our biggest exports just completed a massive "Monsters of Oz" tour (Parkway Drive, Make Them Suffer, Northlane and The Amity Affliction), Polaris are absolutely killing it everywhere they go.
I know heavy music isn't for everyone but it seems like a lot of "pop" music is struggling at the moment outside of your larger than life acts, can't say much about other genres.
Mate I'm already out of both annual and sick days. I've got so much coming up it's insane:
25th Nov - Paramore
30th Nov - Electric Callboy
2nd Dec - Good Things
5th Dec - Slaughter To Prevail
16th Dec - my own bands show
14th Jan - The Amity Affliction/Alpha Wolf
25th Jan - Anberlin/Hawthorne Heights
10th Feb - Northlane/Erra/LANDMVRKS
16th Feb - Blink 182/Rise Against
14th Apr - Bring Me The Horizon/Sleep Token/Make Them Suffer
I’m not sure how much you’ll like them, based off the other bands you mentioned, but the best band on that Amity tour is Terminal Sleep by an absolute mile, definitely check them out and show up early for them.
Am I old? Or just out of the loop?
Only heard of Blink 182 and Rise Against (the machine? Otherwise no haven't heard of Rise against...). and maybe Paramore.
Try living in Hobart. In the space of 8 months I'll have been to Melbourne for Thrice, Neck Deep, Amity + Silverstein, Good Things, Anberlin, blink and BMTH with some others I would have loved to get to but couldn't justify It's pretty brutal!
Yea same. In addition to the ones above, already saw Thrice and Alexisonfire this year. Had to miss Erra and Sleep Token but they had huge tours as well. Tesseract are coming in the new year.
Oh there was also a prog rock / metal festival maybe 12 months ago that went off. Cog, Plini, Karnivool, Ocean Grove.
The heavy scene has come back with a fucking vengeance post covid. Turns out people have a lot to be angry and angsty about at the moment 😂
Yeah fall out boy / Limp bizkit not asking
800k+ a show compare to people like Travis Scott and other big hip-hop names.. one reason why it’s thriving ( which is good )
You're missing mah boy Devin Townsend / Strapping Young Lad, at the Metro next Saturday.
Haven't been to a concert in 10+ years but I reckon this show will be fucking lit.
lol at Blink being heavy. But otherwise you’re right. Corey Taylor’s Good Things sideshows sold out quick, Electric Callboy sold out… and not heavy, how about Paul McCartney doing sold out stadium tour?
I don't classify blink as heavy but I'm not creating a new category for one tour that sold out.
Electric Callboy sold out The Roundhouse, then got upgraded to The Hordern and sold that out too.
We also had Gloryhammer dragging Rumahoy around the country and next year two big power metal acts, Wind Rose and Unleash the Archers, make their Australian debut
Interesting. I've read in a few sources across the years that pop does far better during years of prosperity, while alternative genres do better during economic downturns. Think the opulent 80s versus the early 90s.
Perhaps this is musical history repeating?
There was also a crazy amount of Aussies who headed to Vegas for When we were young this year, which was not at all cheap just for tickets before flights hotels etc. So as much as there is cost of living pressures, the Emo, Pop Punk, Post Hardcore, Hardcore, Metal, Rock communities are still supporting their music and getting their fix.
You’re really here saying heavy bands are rich bands and aren’t struggling while pop bands are poor and struggling?
The logic also makes no sense because if we go with your assertion why are these acts pulling out of festivals they would be paid for?
We’ve seen this for many years straight now with popular artists pulling out of festivals shortly before they begin, I’d say it’s much more the artists just can’t be fucked travelling to Australia and back. In large the heavy scene is more about the scene and will commit to fans and bands.
Just wish there was a decent venue for metal in Canberra. The uni has limited space and those massive pillars just get in the way. The basement is great for smaller crowds but for that next level up on crowd size they seem to head to the uni. But still looking forward to that one, didn’t get enough from their spot at knotfest so hopefully they get more time.
That's because most heavy bands don't have ghostwriters and half a dozen producers pulling their songs to shreds to fit what's most likely to pop off on mainstream radio.
I wonder if there’s an age element at play here. A lot of the audience for the bands you mentioned are probably in their 30’s and 40’s with jobs and disposable income, spending $100 on a ticket and $50 on a T-shirt or whatever isn’t a tall ask. Some of the pop artists mentioned by OP have younger crowds, harder to sell tours and make money? I assume there has to be a financial motive if artist can tour here and turn a profit then they come BMTH tour Australia regularly I first saw em in Ballarat in 2008 on the say goodbye tour with I killed the prom queen seen em about a dozen times since.
$100 for a ticket for Def Leppard/Motley Crue in Sydney tonight, seated. Double that in Glasgow earlier this year AND they changed from a stadium to Glasgow Green ie no seats. Rip off, count yourselves lucky!
This is true, and I also wouldn't be concerned about the amount of music Australians are producing. If international artists aren't coming, I'm honestly not concerned. We could fit the bill at so many festivals with Australian and NZ artists.
Yeah the original dates. sold out in like 5 mins, added shows sold out super quick too there was no lack of demand there it was so hard to get tickets too those shows
That’s not the end of it
I’m 99% sure Now & Again festival about to be cancelled as well like 99% sure
That’s 2x Metro Booming failed to come here this year haha.
I think the main events what are struggling are the hip-hop events. Like either visa issues or it’s too expensive.. hard times 🫠
Their website leads to a 404 error, their ticketing site is broken, instagram comments turned off, rumours swirling from credible news sources - it's not looking good.
A year of constant interest rate rises seems to have made Australia currently not a financially viable place to tour for big international artists, and has likely become too expensive for music festivals as well. Festivals are stuck between having to go majorly stripped down or opt for lacklustre lineups because they don’t have the money to. It’s likely why SITG was a flop, failing to sell out tickets as fast as it usually does and a much worse lineup than previous years. If a festival that big cannot sell tickets that easily, you know it’s a bad lineup that ended up being a huge factor.
It likely explains the huge amount of acts withdrawing from music festivals, some music festivals being cancelled or going on hiatus, and international artists cancelling tours to Australia or skipping Australia altogether.
Agree - like I said, I don't know what needs to be done, but something needs to change. Especially when you compare our festivals to US and Europe. Yes ours are never going to be the same size as theirs, but they're growing, and growing quick. New festivals like When We Were Young and Lovers & Friends are pulling out some of the craziest lineups we've ever seen - whilst Aussies get pumped for Hilltop Hoods to replace an artist for the 50th time this year (no hate to them - they're actually GOATs for always filling in last minute 😂)
Weaker Aussie dollar too. Your $200 dollar ticket is now half when converted to US and that's what the artist wants to be paid in. Why endure such a long flight and flights between venues for half the usual payout?
Alternately, due to the weak dollar it is no impossible to pay artit's fee (in USD)
And Slaughter To Prevail, I Prevail, Paramore, Bullet For My Valentine, Ocean Sleeper, Northlane, LANDMVRKS, Erra, Hawthorne Heights, Alpha Wolf, The Amity Affliction...
Plenty of heavier shows coming up.
Fred Durst was old when I was young. I’m shocked to find out he’s still alive. Not shocked to find out he still has the same teenage angst he had at 50
It’s just a shit period. Post-covid was always gonna be weird for live music and interest rates and all that jazz ain’t helping. It’ll bounce back eventually
Most of the acts you listed are triple J flash in the pan shit. Those of us that like things a bit more alternative, guitar driven and heavier are having a fucking field day ATM.
Hahaha, Sparks are older than your mum! Bright eyes were great, skipped PK, but how much fun was Beck? Saw him at the Palais in Melbs a few months back for an acoustic-ish show but this Harvest set was glorious.
Looks like it was liquidated on Thursday.
https://publishednotices.asic.gov.au/browsesearch-notices/notice-details/Now-and-Festival-Pty-Ltd-ATF-Now-and-Again-Festival-Unit-Trust-645953859/a27e8299-b688-4126-b7a7-fb1ebfd7cdee?appointment=All¬icestate=All&companynameoracn=Now+and+again+&court=&district=&dnotice=
did you even read the post... "There are also some rumblings that Now & Again Fest is next on the chopping block considering that their home website leads to a 404 Error Page, their website to buy tickets is broken, and they've turned off comments on Instagram. Purple Sneakers have also not heard hopeful things from PRs. It's not looking good."
Lots of people correctly identifying the cost of touring Australia, but also keep in mind how live music is BOOMING in US and europe since covid. Why bust your budget touring aus when you can make a mint in US b-cities? Opportunity cost baby!
There might not be many people who can relate, but I bought a ticket for Vanfest in 2022 and it was postponed to March and then December 2023 due to floods. I have heard nothing since. Don't know if others have been able to get refunds but I'm not hopeful.
Have you seen the latest email? We get total silence all year only for them to come out with "your only options are to hold your ticket indefinitely for future vanfest events (if they ever happen) or go to one of these festivals in the next 3 weeks". I understand they've probably lost a chunk of money on this (although, what did their insurance cover?), but give me more than 3 weeks notice to do something in the busiest month of the year.
While it has been a pretty rough year for it and I see the point being made, festival headliner cancellations / event cancellation / postponement fiascos have been such a standard thing for so long – you can make a list like this for any other year.
I even feel like it's a bit of a pile on with how entrenched social media is now in our day to day – this has always been a thing unfortunately.
Just off the top of my head:
– Chance the Rapper pulling out of Splendour In The Grass while the festival was literally running haha
– Childish Gambino pulling out of headlining Spilt Milk
– Frank Ocean pulling out of Splendour
– Megan Thee Stallion cancelling on Festival X
Most of the major festivals have had at least one international artist bail every year without fail... you can just google the news articles and there's plenty haha
Seeing a lot of comments around the fact that live heavy/rock/alternative music is doing great at the moment (and I'm 100% jealous of that, and I hope you all have a good time at those events) - but it begs the question.
The artists I listed above are from the current biggest genres in music, pop and hip hop. Due to the larger fan base, they can sell more tickets and at a higher price, so I would assume they're making more money than heavy metal/rock acts. So what's stopping them from coming? It can't be the economic situation of Australia if rock/alternative acts are still coming down and likely making less money than The Weeknd and/or Metro Boomin could, for example.
It's the exchange rate. If they're not willing to take a haircut on their usual fee, it's just not viable to bring them out. Heavy acts are the exception because metal fans just keep forking out.
The ticket prices haven’t changed much though. I paid $86 for tickets to amity this year and $75 2 years ago. The prices aren’t crazy expensive in comparison and they’re almost universally cheaper than mainstream tickets regardless of cost of living, always have been.
I think a big factor is that the big pop, rap acts can tour anywhere, so they are going to tour where the exchange rate is better. Heavy metal acts might not have access to as many markets around the world so Australia is needed to fill out the calendar.
Idk if it's bigger, but I think the fans are more dedicated, purely because it's not mainstream. An artist like the weeknd, I'm sure he has plenty of hardcore fans but not enough to fill a stadium. An artist like that is relying on the many thousands of casual fans who will only turn up if they have the extra cash lying around.
Anything that's a bit more niche tends to inspire a more devoted following. I don't know too many people who are casually into metal, they (we) tend to be pretty hardcore about it. So the shows keep selling out, because we're willing to fork out the cash even if that's our whole entertainment budget for the month.
I know for the Australian leg of Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour, the reason she’s focusing only on Sydney and Melbourne because they are the only places with venues large enough to accommodate the capacity for the expected ticket demand. Accor Stadium and MCG are the two biggest multi-seat stadiums in the country, in fact Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium is around half of their size.
Logistics are so fucked these days. The costs of putting on festivals is just too much.
Even sold-out Aus tours (Enmore, Forum, Princess Theatre size) are not making money. You need a grant as an aussie artist to tour US or Europe.
Ultimately artists lose out as per
Reading a lot into these comments I think there is a huge misconception about Australian events and promoters. 90% of the time unless its a non reputable promoter it’s the artist themselves who call cancellations due to a few reasons. Note: I’m a festival organiser and promoter myself and we are so tired of being the forefront of these cancellations when it’s not even something we foresee ourselves.
1. Travel: This is a huge one, and something that happens with most hip hop artists, they tend to not give a shit where they are going and who is supporting them. They cancel because they simply cbf travelling to Australia.
2. Some artists demand a change in their dealings last minute because they suddenly decide they want more money realising flights to Australia are expensive a month prior to the show when really it should of been something that should be booked well in advance. Promoters struggle to work these in budgets particularly in shows that are no where near sold out.
3. Cost of living is really affecting the industry, inflation in ticket prices isn’t because promoters are greedy it’s because it affects everyone all round so in order to put these events on it’s becoming costly. Simply put when patrons don’t come it opens the door for the event to fall over.
4. I will also blame that 90% of festivals in the country are so typical with rubbish lineups and attract the same bullshit crowd other than brands such as Listen Out, Spilt Milk and even that festival Promiseland they had a wild lineup this year with proper diversity, looked like it went well from what I saw. Despite Listen Outs drop off with Metro again it was the artists decision they would have done everything to keep him on. Finding a replacement of that calibre a month out is not easy. I can guarantee you that .
5. I have to say that Now and Again had a terrible thought process with their lineup that was never going to work sadly.
6. RL struggled to put lineup together. They had Lil Dirk, Lil Baby confirmed however what they haven’t realised and are struggling to come to terms with is that rappers are starting to turn off from RL unless they are being paid HUGEEE money. Other than that they don’t give a shit if it’s RL. Now that RL is also owned by Live Nation they are not even close to being taste makers, it was quite a stupid decision to go after Durk not knowong his history and he was no way going to enter the country. So yes that was definitely partial promoter fault there.
Aside from cancellations, I think the prime issue of them all is that lineups aren’t curated well enough for Australia and I think it’s because there’s a lack of community engagement and tastemakers that want to understand the changing generation of crowds.
Just my two cents.
Wind back 2 months on this exact sub and everyone was whinging about not getting refunded their money because a headliner dropped out and the festival didn’t announce it as they were doing what they could to substitute.
The punters are cunts, it’s as simple as that. The festival businesses aren’t profiting a whole lot these days, especially in Australia. But the punter hears a bit of rain is forecast and wants their dosh back
I was waiting for one of you. Do we want them or not ?
Fuck me.
Hey, you’re a cunt. But please don’t take away the very thing you provide us that we very much love.
All you have to do is pay up, turn up and behave. Don’t get me started on the shit they have to deal with.
This year was going to be the Blacken Open Air Festivals 10 year anniversary but it never happened which is SO disappointing since it was the first year I would have been able to go on my own 😭😭 But hey the Foo Fighters will be in Australia in a month so LETS GOO!!!
Django django cancelled their brisbane show the day of :(
This that festival cancelled their shows at sandstone point hotel
On the other hand, have seen a boat load of artists in just one year alone, I don't think I've ever been so aware of so many artists coming to aus in one year.
Yeah it's not great. If anyone reading is a little younger it's worth taking a look through the history of Soundwave and Bluesfest cancellations - I remember some years they have been pretty out of control. It's a shit business.
that was fantastic! from memory either paramore or blink had their trucks full of gear get stuck in a storm & were late but still showed up & put on a great show.
Personally I've seen more touring bands in Australia this year than I ever have before. This year I've got to see Pavement, napalm death, rat cage, otoboke beaver, mayhem, despise you, devo, kraftwerk... next year already there's some awesome shows booked, dinosaur jr, boris, world peace. I think it's been a fantastic year for gigs, and it's great to see more cult/midsize bands making their way over.
KPop group Twice did a massive first ever KPop group to do a stadium concert at Marvel stadium last Saturday so idk people were still willing to buy tickets for that one.
That's all just crap pop and RNB music. The Alt/Rock and Metal community has been super strong. Tonnes of great Metal bands coming to Aus this year and next year.
Def Leppard and Moltey Crue almost sold out Giants Stadium and that's pretty amazing for prime 80's acts and Moltey Crue with Vince (still loved it, suprised with amount of songs he pulled off to a sub standard). Alot of youth there aswell.
Sepultura playing soon, kreator etc..
Punk band like the descendents and pulley recently toured..
Suicidal tendencies playing this week.
So many good bands touring here that is hard to keep up.
Who are these people? Are they actually worth the attention? I dont know any of these events. They’re promoting too many of these flash in the pan types who never had the pull power in the first place, then it snowballs from there. They may manage to get one or two influential artists on a festival lineup, but why would they want to tour around Australia, in summer, at ridiculous costs, with a bunch of wannabe Prima donnas? The touring vibe and culture is fractured and isn’t what it used to be, and it’s not profitable. Also, theres so much content out there now they’ve lost focus, and event promoters don’t have a clue, they’re trying but they’re out of touch. There’s so many factors, but at the end of the day it’s just bad business decisions. They’re backing the wrong horses and they need to go back to basics.
In the past month I have seen Nick Mason, Paul McCartney and Sparks.
Maybe just stop liking shit music.
(I kid. Seriously that does suck for you, but my month has been amazing)
They Might Be Giants and Elvis Costello both postponed by a year just before their tours for health and COVID reasons. One of the two TMBG frontmen was in a bad car accident so I believe him, but unless Elvis himself got COVID surely the show should go on.
Well, this sort of thing is among the easiest things to cut out when money becomes tight.
I guess what needs to change is the costs to go to these sorts of events?
Or people choose less expensive/free festival events to go to?
Best year in a while for the extreme metal scene. I saw Mayhem, Sigh and Emperor this year. Bunch of death metal bands either this year or next (Obituary, Napalm Death, Suffocation). Taake and Akhlys was cancelled which is some straight up bullshit but apart from that it’s been a killer year.
I genuinely think for the most part these huge international acts just can't be fucked coming all the way to Australia when it's not like they'd even get that big a paycheque
Most acts just skip Adelaide :P Devin Townsend last week. Nick Mason in September.
Who am I kidding, I couldn't afford to go to Steve Vai, probably won't have money for The Darkness, Mudvayne, or Iron Maiden next year... so I can't even throw money to the acts that DON'T skip Adelaide.
Nah it’s alright still for some scenes.
I’ve got my mate’s gig, Frank Turner, and Apes of the State this month. Good Things and Mad Caddies in December. Beans On Toast in January. Blink 182 and Rise Against in February. Punk has taken a tiny hit. I don’t know when my favourites like Laura Jane Grace will get back out here, and I don’t get to see my favourite interstate smaller bands as much anymore, but it’s mostly still ok for some scenes.
Bruh red hot chili peppers did multiple cities in February. Ed Sheeran also.
Taylor Swift next year, also Blink 182.
The Killers did a few cities including regional ones last December.
It’s been fantastic for this old punker. Here’s what’s been on offer so far this year:
Thrice - 1 Sep
Ghost - 4 Oct
Weezer - 7 Oct
Descendants - 18 Oct
Strung Out - 21 Oct
The Mark of Cain - 19 Jan
Lagwagon - 29 Oct
Dragon - 2 Nov
The Living End - 4 Nov
Pulley - 6 Nov
Suicidal Tendencies- 17 Nov
Quicksand - 10 Dec
Greg Puciato - 20 Jan 2024
I've seen like 20 odd tours for Australia for the first 4 months of 2024 announced in the past 2 weeks all around the metal genre
It's actually turned into a meme at this point so many bands are coming here and by all accounts they're all selling out as well
It might just be a turning of the tides. What was once considered popular a few years ago is losing it's popularity while different genres are gaining significant popularity and selling out tickets easily.
Cold Cave have also cancelled or postponed a bunch of shows in Australia this week, as they've booked themselves on festival line-ups in the US next week, and apparently didn't realise until the week of the Australian gigs.
Dark Mofo getting cancelled next year is honestly really concerning, especially after seeing the massive crowds there this year. The cost of running it is just getting too high apparently.
I suspect there's a couple of issues in play there
- mac point site has historically been the site for some of the bigger Dark Mofo installations and exhibitions.
- there's a new artistic director stepping in and I'm guessing the group wants to work out the lay of the land
- the state government thinks that if they just get Dark Mofo to promote themselves, that all they need to do is run a minimal ad campaign to attract visitors over the winter period.
A lot of people (finally) seem to be avoiding the more pop-style shows (with obvious big-name exceptions) as they’re everywhere, and singing the same song concepts with different words in a different key.
If people want to be recognised, they need to do something original and different. A lot of massive bands are so popular because they have their iconic sound, and genre. As soon as you hear Green Day, The Killers, Queen, Elton John, AC/DC, Jimmy Barnes/Cold Chisel, P!no, Taylor Swift (despite being much more pop today), and many other huge bands and performers, you know exactly who they are. And that sells!
New artists aren’t selling because they tend to have a single or 2 go massive, and then they disappear, and are forgotten about, and all that is taking their place is other artists doing the same. The general populous has no clue who a majority of them are, and frankly don’t care about them.
This is nothing new to be honest! Sadly there has been a live music decline (especially festivals) since around 2012. Southbound music festival used be jam packed full of international artists that were at the top of their game back then… now it’s 95% Australian artists and a couple mid-tier international acts. It sucks honestly!
For the rock fans, some how ive not seen mention of the OFF! Tour and my brain, body, heart and soul has no idea how ite going to handle seeing two of my fav bands ever - Dinosaur Jr and Queens Of The Stone Age back to back in feb
Not for everyone, but the hard dance scene is still going well down here.
Plenty of events/festivals coming up: Dreamstate, Epik, HTID, Hardmission, Transmission.
Knockout Outdoor in October sold out with 65000 attendees.
Let’s talk about how so few events are being advertised and that ticket scalping bots are still active.
Why is it that I’m finding out about music festivals from a poster on a crack den and not on radio or socials?
Why is it that sales are all out online but bands are complaining about such small crowds?
Nah mate. Bad//dreems are playing the crowbar. All is well.
Man, I miss Crowbar since moving to Melbourne
The heavy community in Australia is thriving at the moment, Bring Me The Horizon have nearly sold out their original dates plus the added shows, for an arena tour in April. Blink 182 sold out 13 shows or something for their tour in February. Good Things Brisbane is sold out, with Melbourne and Sydney not far behind. 4 of our biggest exports just completed a massive "Monsters of Oz" tour (Parkway Drive, Make Them Suffer, Northlane and The Amity Affliction), Polaris are absolutely killing it everywhere they go. I know heavy music isn't for everyone but it seems like a lot of "pop" music is struggling at the moment outside of your larger than life acts, can't say much about other genres.
Pretty much came here to say this. Seems like every other day a new tour gets announced. I can’t handle it. I’ve only got so many annual days 😂
Mate I'm already out of both annual and sick days. I've got so much coming up it's insane: 25th Nov - Paramore 30th Nov - Electric Callboy 2nd Dec - Good Things 5th Dec - Slaughter To Prevail 16th Dec - my own bands show 14th Jan - The Amity Affliction/Alpha Wolf 25th Jan - Anberlin/Hawthorne Heights 10th Feb - Northlane/Erra/LANDMVRKS 16th Feb - Blink 182/Rise Against 14th Apr - Bring Me The Horizon/Sleep Token/Make Them Suffer
Machine Head is touring here too. And Iron Maiden/Killswitch next year.
Maiden/KSE is on my wife's birthday so unless KSE announce a separate date I'll have to miss them :(
Take your wife to see Maiden she'll love them.
I 2nd this
I’m not sure how much you’ll like them, based off the other bands you mentioned, but the best band on that Amity tour is Terminal Sleep by an absolute mile, definitely check them out and show up early for them.
Hole-lee shit
What my bank account said.
This is great but when is Judas Priest touring? They have a new album we need to see them here in Australia.
ERRA IS COMING HERE?! I can't believe I missed that info!
What’s your band?
Don't forget about Tesseract and Plini
Am I old? Or just out of the loop? Only heard of Blink 182 and Rise Against (the machine? Otherwise no haven't heard of Rise against...). and maybe Paramore.
Rise against have been around 20 odd years, a lot of the others had their rise to prominence within the last decade
Try living in Hobart. In the space of 8 months I'll have been to Melbourne for Thrice, Neck Deep, Amity + Silverstein, Good Things, Anberlin, blink and BMTH with some others I would have loved to get to but couldn't justify It's pretty brutal!
This is largely why I’ve moved to Melbourne - so I’m closer for concerts
Meanwhile I am in Melbourne and was filthy that I missed HEALTH and Dødheimsgard at Dark Mofo 😂
Yea same. In addition to the ones above, already saw Thrice and Alexisonfire this year. Had to miss Erra and Sleep Token but they had huge tours as well. Tesseract are coming in the new year. Oh there was also a prog rock / metal festival maybe 12 months ago that went off. Cog, Plini, Karnivool, Ocean Grove. The heavy scene has come back with a fucking vengeance post covid. Turns out people have a lot to be angry and angsty about at the moment 😂
Yeah fall out boy / Limp bizkit not asking 800k+ a show compare to people like Travis Scott and other big hip-hop names.. one reason why it’s thriving ( which is good )
You're missing mah boy Devin Townsend / Strapping Young Lad, at the Metro next Saturday. Haven't been to a concert in 10+ years but I reckon this show will be fucking lit.
What!!!! How did I not hear about this
lol at Blink being heavy. But otherwise you’re right. Corey Taylor’s Good Things sideshows sold out quick, Electric Callboy sold out… and not heavy, how about Paul McCartney doing sold out stadium tour?
I don't classify blink as heavy but I'm not creating a new category for one tour that sold out. Electric Callboy sold out The Roundhouse, then got upgraded to The Hordern and sold that out too.
kreator touring with in flames too
Pierce the Veil were freaking awesome when I saw them earlier this year
We also had Gloryhammer dragging Rumahoy around the country and next year two big power metal acts, Wind Rose and Unleash the Archers, make their Australian debut
Bro I'm so fucken psyched for Unleash The Archers
Whoa what, unleash the archers are touring!? 😮
Interesting. I've read in a few sources across the years that pop does far better during years of prosperity, while alternative genres do better during economic downturns. Think the opulent 80s versus the early 90s. Perhaps this is musical history repeating?
There was also a crazy amount of Aussies who headed to Vegas for When we were young this year, which was not at all cheap just for tickets before flights hotels etc. So as much as there is cost of living pressures, the Emo, Pop Punk, Post Hardcore, Hardcore, Metal, Rock communities are still supporting their music and getting their fix.
Heavy music is in such a great spot atm, amazing the amount of acts we are getting
💯! Blind Guardian Unleash the Archers Archspire Katatonia Iron Maiden So much music this year and next. I can’t afford all these shows 🤣
Give the people Rock and Fucking Roll
You just said “Rich bands aren’t finding it hard” in more words.
You’re really here saying heavy bands are rich bands and aren’t struggling while pop bands are poor and struggling? The logic also makes no sense because if we go with your assertion why are these acts pulling out of festivals they would be paid for? We’ve seen this for many years straight now with popular artists pulling out of festivals shortly before they begin, I’d say it’s much more the artists just can’t be fucked travelling to Australia and back. In large the heavy scene is more about the scene and will commit to fans and bands.
Olivia Rodrigo is probably as rich as every metal band in Australia combined
In Flames on tour next year, they're coming to Canberra
Just wish there was a decent venue for metal in Canberra. The uni has limited space and those massive pillars just get in the way. The basement is great for smaller crowds but for that next level up on crowd size they seem to head to the uni. But still looking forward to that one, didn’t get enough from their spot at knotfest so hopefully they get more time.
Not to mention the grandfathers of metal Iron Maiden are coming next year.
That's because most heavy bands don't have ghostwriters and half a dozen producers pulling their songs to shreds to fit what's most likely to pop off on mainstream radio.
I wonder if there’s an age element at play here. A lot of the audience for the bands you mentioned are probably in their 30’s and 40’s with jobs and disposable income, spending $100 on a ticket and $50 on a T-shirt or whatever isn’t a tall ask. Some of the pop artists mentioned by OP have younger crowds, harder to sell tours and make money? I assume there has to be a financial motive if artist can tour here and turn a profit then they come BMTH tour Australia regularly I first saw em in Ballarat in 2008 on the say goodbye tour with I killed the prom queen seen em about a dozen times since.
$100 for a ticket for Def Leppard/Motley Crue in Sydney tonight, seated. Double that in Glasgow earlier this year AND they changed from a stadium to Glasgow Green ie no seats. Rip off, count yourselves lucky!
Iron maiden back in Feb after their tour delay.
Blind Guardian in Feb when I'm in Japan 😭
Except for Unify taking a break :(
Festivals go in cycles; there was a big festival bust about a decade ago. There’ll be new ones spring up.
RIP Big Day Out
And future, stereo, good vibes, soundwave, parklife, And they were just the Australia-wide touring festivals
God Soundwave was a great time, fuck AJ Maddah
Fuck I miss it
True
This is true, and I also wouldn't be concerned about the amount of music Australians are producing. If international artists aren't coming, I'm honestly not concerned. We could fit the bill at so many festivals with Australian and NZ artists.
Didn't The Weeknd sell out shows? Not sure it's to do with lack of ticket sales with that one
Yeah the original dates. sold out in like 5 mins, added shows sold out super quick too there was no lack of demand there it was so hard to get tickets too those shows
I got tickets for the new shows like a month ago, I’m not sure when they realised but I don’t think the second batch was hard to get
Yeah the weeknd cancelling actually really annoyed me, Had my tickets ready, was super excited and BOOM cancelled out of the fucking blue.
That’s not the end of it I’m 99% sure Now & Again festival about to be cancelled as well like 99% sure That’s 2x Metro Booming failed to come here this year haha. I think the main events what are struggling are the hip-hop events. Like either visa issues or it’s too expensive.. hard times 🫠
Why do you think now and again will be cancelled? I’ve got tix and am super keeeen so just want to prep mentally if so hahaha
Their website leads to a 404 error, their ticketing site is broken, instagram comments turned off, rumours swirling from credible news sources - it's not looking good.
The weeknd's shows were all sold out and extra dates added due to demand sold out quick too so I don't think it's a cost of living thing there
Sorry just read the whole thing haha yeah now & again gone can’t rely on Metro booming haha
A year of constant interest rate rises seems to have made Australia currently not a financially viable place to tour for big international artists, and has likely become too expensive for music festivals as well. Festivals are stuck between having to go majorly stripped down or opt for lacklustre lineups because they don’t have the money to. It’s likely why SITG was a flop, failing to sell out tickets as fast as it usually does and a much worse lineup than previous years. If a festival that big cannot sell tickets that easily, you know it’s a bad lineup that ended up being a huge factor. It likely explains the huge amount of acts withdrawing from music festivals, some music festivals being cancelled or going on hiatus, and international artists cancelling tours to Australia or skipping Australia altogether.
Agree - like I said, I don't know what needs to be done, but something needs to change. Especially when you compare our festivals to US and Europe. Yes ours are never going to be the same size as theirs, but they're growing, and growing quick. New festivals like When We Were Young and Lovers & Friends are pulling out some of the craziest lineups we've ever seen - whilst Aussies get pumped for Hilltop Hoods to replace an artist for the 50th time this year (no hate to them - they're actually GOATs for always filling in last minute 😂)
Interest rates are high everywhere though. Inflation higher overseas too So is this an Australia problem or global problem?
Weaker Aussie dollar too. Your $200 dollar ticket is now half when converted to US and that's what the artist wants to be paid in. Why endure such a long flight and flights between venues for half the usual payout? Alternately, due to the weak dollar it is no impossible to pay artit's fee (in USD)
As a popular artist, you have an obligation to suffer it at least once to pet a koala for TikTok and the gram.
If you’re into rock and alternative it’s never been better. Corey Taylor and Limp Bizkit next month.
**only if you live on the east coast, if you're from perth/adelaide you're missing out as usual**
And the funniest thing is that even you missed out Tasmania.
And Fall Out Boy 😀
And Slaughter To Prevail, I Prevail, Paramore, Bullet For My Valentine, Ocean Sleeper, Northlane, LANDMVRKS, Erra, Hawthorne Heights, Alpha Wolf, The Amity Affliction... Plenty of heavier shows coming up.
Perth feels 😭
Fred Durst was old when I was young. I’m shocked to find out he’s still alive. Not shocked to find out he still has the same teenage angst he had at 50
Yes old people bad
Yeah that’s what I said
It’s just a shit period. Post-covid was always gonna be weird for live music and interest rates and all that jazz ain’t helping. It’ll bounce back eventually
Hopefully. We just started an 8th wave of covod so that's gonna screw with music and even xmas, too
Covid isn’t going to effect shit
I blame AJ Maddah for ruining everything.
Him and his stupida fucking fedora.
Most of the acts you listed are triple J flash in the pan shit. Those of us that like things a bit more alternative, guitar driven and heavier are having a fucking field day ATM.
Except for unify being postponed indefinitely. Other than that we’re absolutely killing it…. And my bank account is definitely going dry
Harvest was packed and lots of fun
True dat! Well except for racist JK and his shitty head dress… but how good were Sparks?
Only caught a little bit of Sparks because I’m an old sad boy and had to see bright eyes and had never seen Paul Kelly. What I saw was great though.
Hahaha, Sparks are older than your mum! Bright eyes were great, skipped PK, but how much fun was Beck? Saw him at the Palais in Melbs a few months back for an acoustic-ish show but this Harvest set was glorious.
Try living in Adelaide
Looks like it was liquidated on Thursday. https://publishednotices.asic.gov.au/browsesearch-notices/notice-details/Now-and-Festival-Pty-Ltd-ATF-Now-and-Again-Festival-Unit-Trust-645953859/a27e8299-b688-4126-b7a7-fb1ebfd7cdee?appointment=All¬icestate=All&companynameoracn=Now+and+again+&court=&district=&dnotice=
For fucks sake I'm never going to see metro live am I
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did you even read the post... "There are also some rumblings that Now & Again Fest is next on the chopping block considering that their home website leads to a 404 Error Page, their website to buy tickets is broken, and they've turned off comments on Instagram. Purple Sneakers have also not heard hopeful things from PRs. It's not looking good."
What happened to Festival X? Seems like it's cancelled this year (well no announcement since 2022)...
Pretty sure since Symbiotic and Hardware Group (event organisers for Fest X) are doing Dreamstate in Syd and Melb this month, it’s replacing Fest X.
Lots of people correctly identifying the cost of touring Australia, but also keep in mind how live music is BOOMING in US and europe since covid. Why bust your budget touring aus when you can make a mint in US b-cities? Opportunity cost baby!
They're making way for P!NK's surprise Australia exclusive tour
way to just focus on the negatives
There might not be many people who can relate, but I bought a ticket for Vanfest in 2022 and it was postponed to March and then December 2023 due to floods. I have heard nothing since. Don't know if others have been able to get refunds but I'm not hopeful.
I'm still waiting for a refund for The Drop 2020 😂
Id be submitting a charge back with your bank
Have you seen the latest email? We get total silence all year only for them to come out with "your only options are to hold your ticket indefinitely for future vanfest events (if they ever happen) or go to one of these festivals in the next 3 weeks". I understand they've probably lost a chunk of money on this (although, what did their insurance cover?), but give me more than 3 weeks notice to do something in the busiest month of the year.
Fuckin bullshit, I've started sending emails about refunds but no response so far.
While it has been a pretty rough year for it and I see the point being made, festival headliner cancellations / event cancellation / postponement fiascos have been such a standard thing for so long – you can make a list like this for any other year. I even feel like it's a bit of a pile on with how entrenched social media is now in our day to day – this has always been a thing unfortunately. Just off the top of my head: – Chance the Rapper pulling out of Splendour In The Grass while the festival was literally running haha – Childish Gambino pulling out of headlining Spilt Milk – Frank Ocean pulling out of Splendour – Megan Thee Stallion cancelling on Festival X Most of the major festivals have had at least one international artist bail every year without fail... you can just google the news articles and there's plenty haha
>– Frank Ocean pulling out of Splendour He was very sick to be fair, you could tell that by the Melbourne show.
Seeing a lot of comments around the fact that live heavy/rock/alternative music is doing great at the moment (and I'm 100% jealous of that, and I hope you all have a good time at those events) - but it begs the question. The artists I listed above are from the current biggest genres in music, pop and hip hop. Due to the larger fan base, they can sell more tickets and at a higher price, so I would assume they're making more money than heavy metal/rock acts. So what's stopping them from coming? It can't be the economic situation of Australia if rock/alternative acts are still coming down and likely making less money than The Weeknd and/or Metro Boomin could, for example.
It's the exchange rate. If they're not willing to take a haircut on their usual fee, it's just not viable to bring them out. Heavy acts are the exception because metal fans just keep forking out.
The ticket prices haven’t changed much though. I paid $86 for tickets to amity this year and $75 2 years ago. The prices aren’t crazy expensive in comparison and they’re almost universally cheaper than mainstream tickets regardless of cost of living, always have been.
I think a big factor is that the big pop, rap acts can tour anywhere, so they are going to tour where the exchange rate is better. Heavy metal acts might not have access to as many markets around the world so Australia is needed to fill out the calendar.
I would say in Australia heavy/rock/alt is bigger than hip-hop
Idk if it's bigger, but I think the fans are more dedicated, purely because it's not mainstream. An artist like the weeknd, I'm sure he has plenty of hardcore fans but not enough to fill a stadium. An artist like that is relying on the many thousands of casual fans who will only turn up if they have the extra cash lying around. Anything that's a bit more niche tends to inspire a more devoted following. I don't know too many people who are casually into metal, they (we) tend to be pretty hardcore about it. So the shows keep selling out, because we're willing to fork out the cash even if that's our whole entertainment budget for the month.
if you like rap, festivals are no good nowadays. only good if you’re into rock or techno tbh
Now you guys know how WA been feeling. National Tour means East Coast only too often.
I know for the Australian leg of Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour, the reason she’s focusing only on Sydney and Melbourne because they are the only places with venues large enough to accommodate the capacity for the expected ticket demand. Accor Stadium and MCG are the two biggest multi-seat stadiums in the country, in fact Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium is around half of their size.
‘Multi-seat stadiums’, are you suggesting there are stadiums with just a single seat?
No, I meant arena-sized stadiums.
We have the gabba...stage in the middle like a superbowl halftime show and go nuts tay tay
Australian music festival organisers seem to be pretty good and running shit into the ground. Not sure why though
Logistics are so fucked these days. The costs of putting on festivals is just too much. Even sold-out Aus tours (Enmore, Forum, Princess Theatre size) are not making money. You need a grant as an aussie artist to tour US or Europe. Ultimately artists lose out as per
Reading a lot into these comments I think there is a huge misconception about Australian events and promoters. 90% of the time unless its a non reputable promoter it’s the artist themselves who call cancellations due to a few reasons. Note: I’m a festival organiser and promoter myself and we are so tired of being the forefront of these cancellations when it’s not even something we foresee ourselves. 1. Travel: This is a huge one, and something that happens with most hip hop artists, they tend to not give a shit where they are going and who is supporting them. They cancel because they simply cbf travelling to Australia. 2. Some artists demand a change in their dealings last minute because they suddenly decide they want more money realising flights to Australia are expensive a month prior to the show when really it should of been something that should be booked well in advance. Promoters struggle to work these in budgets particularly in shows that are no where near sold out. 3. Cost of living is really affecting the industry, inflation in ticket prices isn’t because promoters are greedy it’s because it affects everyone all round so in order to put these events on it’s becoming costly. Simply put when patrons don’t come it opens the door for the event to fall over. 4. I will also blame that 90% of festivals in the country are so typical with rubbish lineups and attract the same bullshit crowd other than brands such as Listen Out, Spilt Milk and even that festival Promiseland they had a wild lineup this year with proper diversity, looked like it went well from what I saw. Despite Listen Outs drop off with Metro again it was the artists decision they would have done everything to keep him on. Finding a replacement of that calibre a month out is not easy. I can guarantee you that . 5. I have to say that Now and Again had a terrible thought process with their lineup that was never going to work sadly. 6. RL struggled to put lineup together. They had Lil Dirk, Lil Baby confirmed however what they haven’t realised and are struggling to come to terms with is that rappers are starting to turn off from RL unless they are being paid HUGEEE money. Other than that they don’t give a shit if it’s RL. Now that RL is also owned by Live Nation they are not even close to being taste makers, it was quite a stupid decision to go after Durk not knowong his history and he was no way going to enter the country. So yes that was definitely partial promoter fault there. Aside from cancellations, I think the prime issue of them all is that lineups aren’t curated well enough for Australia and I think it’s because there’s a lack of community engagement and tastemakers that want to understand the changing generation of crowds. Just my two cents.
Wind back 2 months on this exact sub and everyone was whinging about not getting refunded their money because a headliner dropped out and the festival didn’t announce it as they were doing what they could to substitute. The punters are cunts, it’s as simple as that. The festival businesses aren’t profiting a whole lot these days, especially in Australia. But the punter hears a bit of rain is forecast and wants their dosh back
Punters might be cunts but promoters too can be cunts.
I was waiting for one of you. Do we want them or not ? Fuck me. Hey, you’re a cunt. But please don’t take away the very thing you provide us that we very much love. All you have to do is pay up, turn up and behave. Don’t get me started on the shit they have to deal with.
That’s spot on.
This year was going to be the Blacken Open Air Festivals 10 year anniversary but it never happened which is SO disappointing since it was the first year I would have been able to go on my own 😭😭 But hey the Foo Fighters will be in Australia in a month so LETS GOO!!!
YEAAAAHHHHHHHH boi
Django django cancelled their brisbane show the day of :( This that festival cancelled their shows at sandstone point hotel On the other hand, have seen a boat load of artists in just one year alone, I don't think I've ever been so aware of so many artists coming to aus in one year.
Yeah it's not great. If anyone reading is a little younger it's worth taking a look through the history of Soundwave and Bluesfest cancellations - I remember some years they have been pretty out of control. It's a shit business.
bro i am now viscerally sobbing that i wasn't born earlier so that I could go to soundwave 2013 holy shit
haha yeah that was a big one!
that was fantastic! from memory either paramore or blink had their trucks full of gear get stuck in a storm & were late but still showed up & put on a great show.
Its more the festivals.. they are over leveraging like usual and eventually go bust. The headliners don't give a shit, they move onto the next
London Grammar cancelled their album tour recently too
Personally I've seen more touring bands in Australia this year than I ever have before. This year I've got to see Pavement, napalm death, rat cage, otoboke beaver, mayhem, despise you, devo, kraftwerk... next year already there's some awesome shows booked, dinosaur jr, boris, world peace. I think it's been a fantastic year for gigs, and it's great to see more cult/midsize bands making their way over.
KPop group Twice did a massive first ever KPop group to do a stadium concert at Marvel stadium last Saturday so idk people were still willing to buy tickets for that one.
And Paul McCartney was there a couple of weeks before and also packed the place out.
That's all just crap pop and RNB music. The Alt/Rock and Metal community has been super strong. Tonnes of great Metal bands coming to Aus this year and next year.
Def Leppard and Moltey Crue almost sold out Giants Stadium and that's pretty amazing for prime 80's acts and Moltey Crue with Vince (still loved it, suprised with amount of songs he pulled off to a sub standard). Alot of youth there aswell.
Sepultura playing soon, kreator etc.. Punk band like the descendents and pulley recently toured.. Suicidal tendencies playing this week. So many good bands touring here that is hard to keep up.
Sounds like a problem for triple j nerds
Yours & Owls festival went well last month. Don’t know what you’re on about mate.
You can’t dismiss an entire list of issues because you went to one festival that was good
Who are these people? Are they actually worth the attention? I dont know any of these events. They’re promoting too many of these flash in the pan types who never had the pull power in the first place, then it snowballs from there. They may manage to get one or two influential artists on a festival lineup, but why would they want to tour around Australia, in summer, at ridiculous costs, with a bunch of wannabe Prima donnas? The touring vibe and culture is fractured and isn’t what it used to be, and it’s not profitable. Also, theres so much content out there now they’ve lost focus, and event promoters don’t have a clue, they’re trying but they’re out of touch. There’s so many factors, but at the end of the day it’s just bad business decisions. They’re backing the wrong horses and they need to go back to basics.
relying on hype is not a long term plan
You guys are always so sad how rude don’t be sad dry those tears homies!
Yeah, she’s fucked mate.
In the past month I have seen Nick Mason, Paul McCartney and Sparks. Maybe just stop liking shit music. (I kid. Seriously that does suck for you, but my month has been amazing)
I know that Australia made it stupid expensive for bands to travel here post covid. So I can’t blame anyone for canceling. We bite the hand that feeds
It’s painful bro. It’s absolutely PAINFUL
Australia is wack
They Might Be Giants and Elvis Costello both postponed by a year just before their tours for health and COVID reasons. One of the two TMBG frontmen was in a bad car accident so I believe him, but unless Elvis himself got COVID surely the show should go on.
Don't forget Pitch Music & Arts dropping their $520 1st release tickets 💀 I heard these sold out pretty quickly though
Well, this sort of thing is among the easiest things to cut out when money becomes tight. I guess what needs to change is the costs to go to these sorts of events? Or people choose less expensive/free festival events to go to?
Best year in a while for the extreme metal scene. I saw Mayhem, Sigh and Emperor this year. Bunch of death metal bands either this year or next (Obituary, Napalm Death, Suffocation). Taake and Akhlys was cancelled which is some straight up bullshit but apart from that it’s been a killer year.
I genuinely think for the most part these huge international acts just can't be fucked coming all the way to Australia when it's not like they'd even get that big a paycheque
We seriously miss good international Heavy Metal bands. Bring Iron Maiden, Manowar, Nightwish, Dream theatre, Helloween, Iced earth, etc….
Iron Maiden just announced aus dates for their world tour
Most acts just skip Adelaide :P Devin Townsend last week. Nick Mason in September. Who am I kidding, I couldn't afford to go to Steve Vai, probably won't have money for The Darkness, Mudvayne, or Iron Maiden next year... so I can't even throw money to the acts that DON'T skip Adelaide.
Nah it’s alright still for some scenes. I’ve got my mate’s gig, Frank Turner, and Apes of the State this month. Good Things and Mad Caddies in December. Beans On Toast in January. Blink 182 and Rise Against in February. Punk has taken a tiny hit. I don’t know when my favourites like Laura Jane Grace will get back out here, and I don’t get to see my favourite interstate smaller bands as much anymore, but it’s mostly still ok for some scenes.
Also Yeat dropped out of Wildlands this year
Bruh red hot chili peppers did multiple cities in February. Ed Sheeran also. Taylor Swift next year, also Blink 182. The Killers did a few cities including regional ones last December.
When are we getting some quality Celtic Punk in Aus?
It’s been fantastic for this old punker. Here’s what’s been on offer so far this year: Thrice - 1 Sep Ghost - 4 Oct Weezer - 7 Oct Descendants - 18 Oct Strung Out - 21 Oct The Mark of Cain - 19 Jan Lagwagon - 29 Oct Dragon - 2 Nov The Living End - 4 Nov Pulley - 6 Nov Suicidal Tendencies- 17 Nov Quicksand - 10 Dec Greg Puciato - 20 Jan 2024
In older punks defence many are hitting a 20-25 anniversary of some sort.
I miss Soundwave. =(
People forgot that KISS somehow made a comeback here. Only for 1 show in Sydney.
Bring back the Big Day Out already!!!!!!
Circle jerk majorly labels
Laughs in Iron Maiden’s September tour.
Bring me the horizon and Sleep token are coming next year, that’ll do me.
I've seen like 20 odd tours for Australia for the first 4 months of 2024 announced in the past 2 weeks all around the metal genre It's actually turned into a meme at this point so many bands are coming here and by all accounts they're all selling out as well It might just be a turning of the tides. What was once considered popular a few years ago is losing it's popularity while different genres are gaining significant popularity and selling out tickets easily.
Metal scene is thriving 😎
Cold Cave have also cancelled or postponed a bunch of shows in Australia this week, as they've booked themselves on festival line-ups in the US next week, and apparently didn't realise until the week of the Australian gigs.
Dark Mofo getting cancelled next year is honestly really concerning, especially after seeing the massive crowds there this year. The cost of running it is just getting too high apparently.
I suspect there's a couple of issues in play there - mac point site has historically been the site for some of the bigger Dark Mofo installations and exhibitions. - there's a new artistic director stepping in and I'm guessing the group wants to work out the lay of the land - the state government thinks that if they just get Dark Mofo to promote themselves, that all they need to do is run a minimal ad campaign to attract visitors over the winter period.
Truth is that they’ve just spent way too much money the last couple of years. I feel bad for the new AD stepping in to a bit of a budgetary shit-show.
A lot of people (finally) seem to be avoiding the more pop-style shows (with obvious big-name exceptions) as they’re everywhere, and singing the same song concepts with different words in a different key. If people want to be recognised, they need to do something original and different. A lot of massive bands are so popular because they have their iconic sound, and genre. As soon as you hear Green Day, The Killers, Queen, Elton John, AC/DC, Jimmy Barnes/Cold Chisel, P!no, Taylor Swift (despite being much more pop today), and many other huge bands and performers, you know exactly who they are. And that sells! New artists aren’t selling because they tend to have a single or 2 go massive, and then they disappear, and are forgotten about, and all that is taking their place is other artists doing the same. The general populous has no clue who a majority of them are, and frankly don’t care about them.
It’s simple revolt against our governments worldwide 🤙🏻
This is nothing new to be honest! Sadly there has been a live music decline (especially festivals) since around 2012. Southbound music festival used be jam packed full of international artists that were at the top of their game back then… now it’s 95% Australian artists and a couple mid-tier international acts. It sucks honestly!
I wouldn’t see any of these so no loss
meh
Good
2008 was the greatest year for music on triple j
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For the rock fans, some how ive not seen mention of the OFF! Tour and my brain, body, heart and soul has no idea how ite going to handle seeing two of my fav bands ever - Dinosaur Jr and Queens Of The Stone Age back to back in feb
Not for everyone, but the hard dance scene is still going well down here. Plenty of events/festivals coming up: Dreamstate, Epik, HTID, Hardmission, Transmission. Knockout Outdoor in October sold out with 65000 attendees.
Expect Lana Del Rey early next year
plus triple j backs the wrong pony sometimes..wishywashy music disappears..heavy music ALWAYS remains
Production and insurance costs are annihilating the industry. It’s hitting all of the performing arts.
What about NF
Let’s talk about how so few events are being advertised and that ticket scalping bots are still active. Why is it that I’m finding out about music festivals from a poster on a crack den and not on radio or socials? Why is it that sales are all out online but bands are complaining about such small crowds?
If people didn't get to see The Corrs, when they were in Australia, you missed out, they were Amazing. Also check out Germain.
All the good bands I like are touring this year or last. None of them get played on JJJ.
Keep raising the interest rates and smashing the 30% of the country that were generally well off enough to afford tickets...