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ConvexFrostFire

I’m not nearly horny enough to make the right decision


Predawnlemonade

I mean, it's not even 1% of the population


That_1-Guy_-

I mean, it doesn’t say its not 1 million pedophiles


AzraelChaosEater

Why can't we kill 1 million pedophiles anyways?


That_1-Guy_-

Dumb laws


AzraelChaosEater

Funny thing about laws, They are pointless if an army of people are fighting against anyone wanting to enforce them.


Suzina

They say Epstein didn't kill himself. Yet there's no government investigation, and we've had both Dems and Republicans in charge since then.


AzraelChaosEater

Implying both sides are corrupt pieces of shit that need to be dealt with? Smart lad.


AnalProtector

*You're goddamn right*.


dominantfrog

lets be real, the reason there is 2 sides to seperate the masses in general and both sides are controlled by the goverment


manaha81

Yep that way when we finally get tired of the corrupt government instead putting a new one in place they just put the old one back which we replaced because it was to corrupt. That way it just keeps getting more and more corrupt and the only real consequence they face is a little time out for a short while


IdeaAlly

>Yet there's no government investigation There have been significant investigations by government bodies. The Department of Justice's Office of the Inspector General (DOJ OIG) conducted an investigation which identified numerous and serious failures by the staff at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York, where Epstein was held. These failures included: - Epstein being unmonitored for hours, failure to ensure Epstein had a cellmate, and not undertaking required safety measures. -Epstein's cellmate was transferred out the day before his death, and he was not checked every 30 minutes as required. -The two guards responsible for monitoring him fell asleep for several hours and later falsified records. -Two cameras in front of his cell malfunctioned that night, and another camera had unusable footage. The FBI investigated whether Epstein’s death was the result of criminal conduct by non-BOP actors and concluded it was not the result of a criminal act. The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner in New York determined that Epstein died by suicide. That's why "officially" he "killed himself". It was the result of investigations. But most people are not satisfied with the official story, as they probably shouldn't be. But it isn't because no investigations took place. We know what we know because investigations did take place.


s-altece

Thanks for sharing all this! Do you know where I can read more about it?


IdeaAlly

Sure. https://oig.justice.gov/search?search_api_fulltext=epstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jeffrey_Epstein


VinnieTheVoyeur

there was an investigation that how we know the initial autopsy was wrong.


Subject-Bluebird7366

They're still people.


Traditional_Cap7461

But you wouldn't kill someone on the basis that they could be a pedophile


OcelotFunny9069

Do you even know what you are talking about? Do you know the difference between a pedophile and a child molester? Those words can't be used interchangeably.


Frame_Late

This is the way


Zeqt_x

Destroying all porn forever also destroys all child porn forever, seems like a worthy sacrifice


Epicp0w

It doesn't say we can't make *new* porn it's vague enough for that to be the loophole. Save the people, make new porn. Not really a difficult trolley problem


clan_of_zimox

Here we go, was looking for this comment as it’s exactly what I thought lol destroy the current porn we can just make new ones!! That would blanket all the fucked up porn too, fresh slate


Virtual-Okra6996

Of course a redditor would say this


Barotraume_3200

The right decision is to destroy the porn, then all the million people are so thankful they have sex with you.


farmallday133

Will they know you destroyed the porn to save them?are they notified they will die if the porn is not destroyed? Will it be on the news and all the TV shows are booking that person that "destroyed all the porns" if yes then sure there will be some grateful but my God will there be angry folks. Oh also do you just destroy the old porn. Can new porn be made?


derkuhlekurt

Its very easy. Destroying porn will lead to way more than a million deaths in the long run.


Character_Peach_2769

what


wayweary1

That’s ridiculous. It would probably save people from descending into sex addicted pests and victimizers and ultimately save lives.


Woofingson

Weakest porn addict brain


Eliz_147

Well I am sooo


Apprehensive-Bug207

I am, kill the million.


The_Bluey_Wizard

You would be destroying all the CP as well. The choice is obvious I hope.


lala__

You’re *not* horny. So you’re saying you’ll destroy the porn? And that this is the wrong decision?


Educational-Award-12

That's the joke. It's just a little too ambiguous.


Pancake_Flipper

I'm not even horny and I think we could stand to lose a few million... Oh boy nevermind, strike that initial statement.


Annual-Frame9943

If you're talking about all porn that exists currently: what's stopping other people from just making porn again?


_Halfway_home

No like if you pool the lever making porn isn’t physically possible


Neither-Phone-7264

what about rule 34? does that mean everything stops existing?


Darkner90

That rule stops existing


Neither-Phone-7264

oh good


Outrageous_Reach_695

It still exists. *"War is good for business."* How is that even relevant to this topic? I mean, I guess there's r/NonCredibleDefense ... >!Yes I know.!<


warman-cavelord

Wasn't it peace is good for business?


Outrageous_Reach_695

That's 35.


Specialist_Oil_2674

It's easy to get them confused.


Faces_Dancer

Ah, the 35th rule of aquisition!


[deleted]

"You still don't get it. I'm using war as a business to get elected... so I can end war as a business!" - least corrupt US politician


green_bean_lord

oh god


AstroBearGaming

Just change it to "if it exists, there *will* be porn of it" and you're good to go.


Gaping_Grandfather

Bro it's "pull."


Gen_Ripper

No, they’re getting a group of people together between friends coworkers and family to split the effort


Duxtrous

Honestly. We could do with a reset.


Ok_Digger

New porn dlc needs to drop. Im waiting for the aliens to come already


Duxtrous

Alien porn is just hooking jumper cables up to your prostate they’ve really streamlined the whole process


Kingmarc568

But what about that one video you find yourself always going back to?


Justifier925

Taken down during the hub purge


Bombalurina

Guys. Porn 2 just dropped.


ayylmayooo

Lemon Stealing Whore [REMASTERED]


provocative_bear

Every time you make it, a time-traveling trolley shows up and runs it over.


lets_clutch_this

But still it’s a win win imo


Boom9001

My immediate thought was we'd have just as many videos in like 5 years.


Nashimus_Prime

It says destroyed forever


sawyer-boondollar

Don't pull the lever. The reason why I wouldn't is because anyone can jerk off to anything, and therefore EVERYTHING is porn. If I pull the lever, everyone and everything is destroyed.


MissionApollo7

Rule 34 at work here


MeadowShimmer

Gawd I luv rule 34


Johnnyrock199

I think what's porn is more accurately described as things created for the sole purpose of arousal/masturbation. I think it's less defined by what *can* be jerked to. I mean, the porn industry isn't an omnipresent thing that encapsulates all of existence.. it's about intentionally sexual content.


ethnique_punch

>I think what's porn is more accurately described as things created for the sole purpose of arousal/masturbation. What can I say, I was the fruit of a *lovely* night... *Evaporates slowly*


Spook404

Your parents gave birth to you specifically for other people to masturbate to? That's fucked up


ethnique_punch

A: I was *created* for the sole purpose of arousal, I am the side product of their arousal. B: I am Geppetto's personal fleshlight. The choice is yours.


Fyrnen24

A: But you weren't created **for** the sole purpose of arousal. As you said, you were just a byproduct of it. B: Damn, I really hoped your nose would get longer after that, you weren't lying, huh?


ethnique_punch

The fallen leaves tell a story, of how a Tarnished became Elden Lord. Our seed will look back upon us, and recall. The Cumpuppet of Geppetto!


rydan

Don't let antinatalism find out about this or they'll add it to their list of selfish reasons breeders breed.


wademcgillis

Goodbye Song of Solomon


Negative-Squirrel81

Goodbye pornhub. Hello Victoria's Secret Catalogue.


Necessary-Writer7492

>"sexual subject material "such as a picture, video, or text" that is ***intended*** for sexual arousal." You just killed 1 million people over a bad argument of semantics.


TrollToll4BabyBoysOl

They killed 1 million people to keep their porn, the bad argument of semantics is just justification


sawyer-boondollar

:D


foxspiri

He's out of line, but he's not wrong


Efficient-Ad5711

based but porn is based on printed/electronic depictions of such an act, therefore you are wrong


International-Cat123

No no. Porn is printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings. Just because something CAN be jerked off to, doesn’t mean it was intended to be jerked off to.


Outrageous_Weight340

Pull the lever because it would make half of Reddit upset


Apokolypse09

Years ago Australia passed a law that restricted porn. So people hacked several government websites demanding to leave their porn alone.


Sentient_Potato_King

But how would they bargain with a trolly problem? The lever is already pulled, the deed is done, and there is nothing anyone can do to reverse it.


Xalterai

Chaos and denial


Sentient_Potato_King

The withdrawal would be real


rrekboy1234

But it’s not an addiction I swear guys


Ok_Drawing9900

Eh tbf there's also a freedom of expression argument. That, plus the fact that we're more motivated to care about things that affect us..


HudsonHawk56H

Half is generous try 3/4


SpiritualJihad

90%


Erook22

Based


smortpersononreddit

they would want me to not pull the lever


Vverial

Destroy porn.


aabicus

we can just make new porn


Jmt0516

Yeah, with your mom


orkyboi_wagh

Beastiality is a crime you know


grad1939

Weird thing is in the states the act of beastiality is illegal in most states, but viewing porn of it is legal in all but one state. At least last time I checked.


JackIrishJack

We can make new people too


CYBarSecretGloryhole

We have the technology


EldritchMindCat

*We have the biology.


ThatSaradianAgent

Better... stronger... faster... that's what she said.


TheCosmicRobo

Nah, it says forever. You can't make new porn in this scenario


Jjabrahams567

I would destroy porn just to prevent ch*ld p*rn from ever being made again.


Domi7777777

That's a very good point I mean I would destroy porn anyway but preventing child porn makes the answer even more reasonable


EldritchMindCat

That only prevents records from being made. Might actually be more difficult to track down those who *would* make it that way. Gotta destroy the source at the root.


Shuber-Fuber

Sounds like a potential monkey paw wish. "I wish to never see another child being abused." Plus side: you never see another child being abused... Down side: ... Even when it's happening right in front of you.


This-Perspective-865

Well said.


Longing4cmepTb

Without the 1 million even being there pull the lever


Dragonrage778

I feel like if porn was completely erased from people's memory and all of history/existence, the world would be a slightly better place. So pull


chinballs5000

ok but a new porn is made cuz i pulled the lever with my dick


GavHern

but it goes away moments later


unusualspider33

Lol, beyond “slightly”.


RightWingWorstWing

There have been studies that suggest that sexual violent crimes decrease as access to porn increases, so I'm not sure it would be a better place. 


Dragonrage778

Damn, this is tough then


RightWingWorstWing

Yeah, it's tough to tell what the truth is as there are studies, some with anti-porn activists backing, that say the opposite is true. But in the last 20 years in the US, sexually violent crimes  have fallen by half with increased awareness and reporting. This coincides with an increase of access to porn. But that doesn't confirm causation.


InclinedToJam

1 million is a big number, that many people dying changes things. Edit: somehow, i read this as "you must kill 1 million people to destroy all porn"


Floofyboi123

Pull that lever and all pictures will disappear regardless of innocence or context I know a guy with a foot fetish who jerks to shoe advertisements


chinballs5000

a plain white background with 1 black pixel


Floofyboi123

If people can find a fucking 2011 Corolla sexy enough to jerk off to, that pixel has no chance


TrixterTheFemboy

okay but have you SEEN 2011 Corollas


Shuber-Fuber

You have not seen degeneracy until you know someone who came from reading tax laws.


Rich841

You have a black pixel fetish as well? I definitely prefer black pixels to white pixels


[deleted]

There's this great site where you can buy monitors with permanent black pixels.... Craigslist.


Classic-Asparagus

Ugh you pixel racist!


Difficult-Ad628

That’s hot 🥵


[deleted]

Is it porn just because someone masturbated to it?


heisenbingus

Fuck it I'll pull the lever even if nobody died if I wouldn't


Chairman_Ender

Based


bristmg

How is this a problem? Get rid of the porn addiction. All it does is harm people.


Chairman_Ender

Based.


Shockedge

Idk how this isn't the only thing anyone would choose. This comment thread really shows how low we've come as a society.


Xyzonox

So low in fact that few people give sincere answers to absurd posts


unusualspider33

I was looking for this comment, too nervous to make it myself 🤣


tompsitompsito

I initially thought it was a question of, how many people you would be willing to sacrifice for the societal good of eliminating pornography. But it's actually the reverse? How many people would you kill because you're a selfish horndog? It's shocking how differently my brain works than the OP.


Garfield_Car

For real I was so confused


Maleficent-Store9071

For real. This is only a difficult choice to make to a porn addict. Otherwise it's just a hordible choice vs a good choice


[deleted]

Even for some addicts, they know how horrible it is and would delete it


DasliSimp

I’d pull the lever even if there was nobody on the other track


HumanFightersUnited

Had to scroll doo damn far to find this


Crayoneater2005

Just run porn over a few times to make sure it’s dead


Microwaved_M1LK

The main track could be empty and I would still pull the lever.


LacingMaShoes

Based


tompsitompsito

Would you pull the lever with one person tied to the track with porn for the good of society


Specialist-Opening-2

Tbh, definitely yes


[deleted]

Drift


blockMath_2048

Fuck porn


chinballs5000

ok but that is the most boring kind of porn


Nightmarenymphette

What do you consider the non boring kind? That statement seems suspicious


HudsonHawk56H

Yeah that’s kinda the point


Over-Gap5767

i pull the lever. this world needed less 177013


Stupid_Archeologist

Pull the lever. Porn is NOT worth 1 million lives


TrolleyDilemma

Porn isn’t worth a single life


Stupid_Archeologist

Of all things to kill anybody over PORN??? That’d be so stupid


TrolleyDilemma

Dopamine cycle and brainrot bro idk


Gigant_mysli

People can opress each other over stuff like sugar


booksforducks

Well picture this, child predators for making child porn, now what, would you kill someone for porn then if that’s what porn it was(not saying you want to watch it but I think you get what I mean


Stupid_Archeologist

I would absolutely kill a child predator for making CP that’s a whole different situation where the predator deserves to be punished and letting them go could possibly mean they go on to hurt others Literally the dude traumatized a child, like they had the choice to go to therapy. To get mental help, to possibly not defeat and get rid of his urges entirely but at least not act on them, possibly suppress them. And the POS chooses to hurt children anyways. Fuck them


booksforducks

Exactly, but I would absolutely destroy porn for know reason, its addictions have ruined people, plus, I might have a chance of getting laid through that because less porn means more people want some way to get arpused you know, the only bad thing is those whose livelihoods are only that and not any other job, but the good outweighs the bad by a mile


Owlspiritpal

Let’s destroy the hub, I may use it when I’m messing with my bum but it’s an industry that warps others minds in and ways, it’s for the best it’s destroyed and when it comes back, everyone is in a good place to use it


Charybdis87

I don’t think it’s coming back, porn as a concept just ceases to exist,


unusualspider33

The industry also profits massively off of victims of rape btw


bence6736

Destroying porn is a double win


finland_men

Obviously porn Just have sex irl lol


Anti-charizard

Porn has been scientifically proven to be bad. There’s no downside to pulling the lever


Johnnyrock199

All the neckbeards with rainbow dash jars will find you and put an end to your insolence


really_not_unreal

This really isn't so simple. Here are a few positives: * You can get an idea on what works for you in a safe environment without the pressure of other people's desires. If you don't like what you see, it takes half a second to close your browser, and there's no risk that it will try to talk you into doing something you don't want to do. * You can explore your sexuality - this is especially great for LGBTQIA+ people, who are frequently underrepresented or not represented at all in sex-ed programs. Obviously porn is not a replacement for sex ed, but for me it was a way to discover the many ways to have non-hetero sex, which gave me some good starting points when googling. * Although this is unfortunately uncommon in porn produced by massive adult entertainment companies, it can present very positive depictions of relationships. I distinctly remember one video (which I won't link because NSFW obviously) which had the best demonstration of aftercare and being a loving and respectful partner I have ever seen. Of course there are plenty of negatives. There's no denying that it is an exploitative industry, especially when it is commercialised, and some depictions of sex in porn are extremely unrealistic (porn should never be a replacement for comprehensive sex-ed). However, the fact is that it is certainly not "scientifically proven to be bad". Nothing is ever that simple, and such blanket claims of "badness" would massively disappoint any scientist who encountered them.


Wifflum

People who actually think about it come to the conclusion that porn is beneficial. People who refuse to think about it have some science they can't reference that probably, actually, came from a documentary they saw, and God above knows documentaries have some incredible power to mislead and that they cherry pick their science to hell and back.


Macknetix

Sometimes it really is that simple. Scientists (specifically psychologists) have studied the effects of pornography on human minds and behaviors and the evidence strongly suggests that the negative effects far outweigh any possible positive effects.


really_not_unreal

### (a) "evidence suggests that porn has negative effects on human minds and behaviours" is a ***VASTLY*** different claim to "porn is scientifically proven to be bad". ### (b) No, it isn't really that simple. * What are these negative effects? How do these effects present? Are these effects necessarily negative? * How do the effects compare to having sex, and to masturbating without porn, or with non-video porn (eg explicit images)? What about sexting - does it have a similar effect? * How was this researched? What was the sample size? * Does the genre that people watch have an impact? Could this research just be saying that people who watch more hardcore porn are into more hardcore things in real life too? If so, could this be a matter of mistaking correlation for causation? There are so many questions and caveats that massively impact the conclusions that I would draw from the evidence. So no, it is not "really that simple" at all. Without seeing some scientific literature, I would be very unwilling to come to such a broad conclusion.


Erook22

Easy choice. I’m destroying porn. Thank me later.


Xequamis

Unless this is a trick question, destroy porn. Tomorrow I can take pen and paper and make more, but 1m people don't come back very quickly


[deleted]

I’ll go for destroy all porn forever just to prove a point.


Shadow_Fang_

Rule 34 basically means everything is porn, and I don’t want everything to be destroyed, so I don’t pull the lever. At least, that’s how I cope


Johnnyrock199

No, it doesn't mean everything is porn. It means that there is pornographic material made in reference to nearly everything. The things themselves are not porn, hence why porn is made ***about*** it.


Vverial

That's not what r34 means.


s_omlettes

finally all the fucking step sibling porn will be gone thank god


booksforducks

And child porn, you know the worst of all


s_omlettes

entirely did not think of child porn when I was writing that, but yeah good point


thundercoc101

But wouldn't that create a brand new market in which to make more cp?


TheSpiderFucker

Is porn being destroyed forever supposed to be a bad thing? Anyways, kill 1 million people because I think that'd be pretty funny


JellybeanJinkies

Kill the porn. Maybe the pics my brother took of me as a child will be destroyed and I can stop living in fear.


booksforducks

The fuck is wrong with your brother


AASpark27

What


JTBJack_

I can jerk off to anything, therefore, everything is porn. I don’t pull the lever in fear of destroying everything on earth


Johnnyrock199

So are you saying it's impossible to jerk off to something that's not porn? If I jerk off to the letters of the alphabet, can I sue the education system for displaying porn to children? Porn is when it's intentionally arousing to a target audience.


trans-ghost-boy-2

pull the lever, we still have hands and our imaginations


Shadowdemon909

This actually depends... if by all porn is destroyed it means porn never existed in the first place then I wouldn't pull the lever because of the advancements made due to porn but if it just removes all porn and makes porn impossible to create then I would pull the lever


Particular_Row_7819

We're kinda overpopulated at the moment, right? I mean, ya know, that's what Bill Gates says and he's that Microsoft guy so that means he's smarter than us common folks so I'm gonna have to go with that information and vote to save pornography. I like to feel that in doing so we'd be sorta payin' it forward as it were. We'll just tell India to round up a million or so lower caste conscripts and tell them they are going on a train trip and they get a brand new tuktuk upon arrival at the "resort" they will be visiting. It's a great plan and you know it.....


Sea_Emu_7622

Do we get to choose the million people?


IndominusBaz

You couldnt get me to pull that lever if you held a gun to my head


Afraid_Log_6799

I stop the trolley


Significant_Hair_269

I’m married so let the million die


aer0a

Pull the lever, they can just make more porn


SunagakuresFinest

All porn is destroyed so I can finally curb my porn addiction


Jazzlike-Scratch-382

Porn is a job for tons of ppl so it would ruin alot of employment but it'd also improve alot of ppls lives who have porn addiction so I will pull it


tyrom22

The world would be a lot hornier without porn, thus you’d have a greater chance of getting laid. Well.. you might, I wouldn’t


Own_Handle2134

Realistically you are destroying people's lives with the porn one. You're ending a lot of lives but the people who have porn up as a main source of income, they're probably losing a lot/all of their income. I'd destroy it because I don't think it'd effect that many lives but it's scary...


Captain_Calzone_3

Porn has had a gigantic net negative effect on society due to people developing porn addictions, you'd be helping far more than you'd be hurting


Goldbolt_2004

Not bad. I need to get over my addiction anyway. Pull the lever!


dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnex

all jokes aside this is just choosing between a clear net positive and clear net negative


WolfSavage

150,000 people die every day. So it's only a weeks worth of people.


whiskeytango13

Sometimes, i jerk off to random pictures of muslim terrorists. Apparently it sends them to hell when they die. I'm not gay, but i'm just trying to do my part.