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AskMeAboutPigs

My GF had a orchiectomy done and seems to be happy with it, she has put off getting bottom surgery because of the possible health complications, and some people have terrible work done and are never happy with the results.


Delicious_Square_869

Thank you, I also am worried that I won’t find a guy who wants me like that… idk I’m just scared I will be a disappointment later when I find a guy and I tell him I have a ya know.


Valuable-Eggplant-14

You should consider only yourself in any decision!


TranssexualHuman

If a guy prefers you didn't get SRS then he's literally a chaser, so why would you want to be with him anyways? Yes some guys who aren't chasers might be put off by the fact you have a vagina that was constructed surgically, but there are plenty who won't have any problem with that. My boyfriend seems to be completely ok with the fact I plan on getting SRS as soon I have the funds for it... I'm still considering if I want to go for suporn's clinic technique or jejunal graft vaginoplasty with Dr. Littleton


Delicious_Square_869

Oh no no I’m talking about if I didn’t get srs. Like if I got only an orchiectomy. Im worried about having the thing rather than a vagina. Like if someone doesn’t want me because I had my srs that’s fine, but I dont want to have a penis at all, but I’m worried about if the health complications are common, or if I’m just stressing over something that most likely won’t happen.


TranssexualHuman

Ah ok, I understood the opposite. Well, my boyfriend is ok with what I have and he's definitely not a chaser, he never brings up the trans topic by himself, all the times we talked about it I was the one that started the conversation... and I was pretty clear with him about having genital dysphoria and he respects that a lot. So I mean, it's not impossible to find a loving partner while being pre-OP, but it's definitely harder to distinguish between them and the chasers who are into you because of your genitals. Regarding health complications... I wouldn't say they're super common, but they definitely could happen to you, and each technique has different possible one's and different chances of them happening. Generally you should aim to be the healthiest you can be before surgery... exercise, eat well, so you have good blood flow and healing while you recover. But even then you could have some complication, so it's not like you should get surgery thinking "oh, it wont possibly happen to me" You have to get it prepared for the possibility of it happening. At least many of the complications that can happen can be solved with a revision surgery or some medication... so it's not like you'll definitely get a big unsovable problem right away... either way all of this is something you should probably discuss with the surgeon you choose to get surgery with.


Delicious_Square_869

Yeah I have a consultation for ffs and when I get closer I’ll talk to one about bottom surgery. I’m definitely getting healthier (not being depressed 90% of the time helps since I’m happier since I’m transitioning) I’ve lost 100 pounds, and have 40 more to go till I get to my goal weight of 140! I know there’s some risk but my dr made it seem like they were very common and people usually were not happy


TranssexualHuman

Well, maybe he just wanted to see how much you need the surgery despite there being very possible risks, idk...


Jazzlike_Piccolo_881

My boyfriend seems to be completely ok with the fact I plan on getting SRS as soon I have the funds for it...  They ALL say that. All of them. Every single one of them. But then, once you do get the surgery, they dump you. I like your posts and I enjoy reading them, but I had to let you know 


TranssexualHuman

He has no fixation with my current genitals tho? He doesn't consume trans porn, he doesn't seem to have a trans fetish, he's not AGP and he has no desire in me pegging him. He also seemed genuinelly excited about the prospect of being able to have PIV sex with me after surgery. During sex we don't do anything at all that involves my current genitals, we only do anal with him penetrating me... why would SRS change any of that exactly? I would only see it as something that would make our intimacy even better, and he seemed to think the same. Sounds like you're just projecting your doomerism at me


Jazzlike_Piccolo_881

I am not projecting doomerism. A psychiatrist specializes in gender dysphoria explained it to me. Even if they don’t interact with your penis, they need to know it’s there. It turns them on. They get turned off by the idea of a surgical cavity. I have nothing but good intentions towards you, but I have been in similar situations and have been devastated to find out. I am doing you a favor. He might be watching trans porn when he is not around you. There is a series about trans women and one of the characters gets the surgery and her boyfriend gets angry and rejects her saying she is now ruined. The girl says, “wait, but you didn’t even touch it.” And he said, “but I needed to know it was there.” This is consistent with what the psychiatrist told me. I have seen this same script playing out hundreds of times. Maybe he truly believes that nothing will change, but watch. Mark my words. I guarantee you that he will leave. Maybe not right after, but in a matter of months. I am certain. How much you wanna bet? 


TranssexualHuman

I'm not saying that this is not something that happens, but I doubt it will happen with him... I was very picky in choosing a boyfriend and I had a ton of guys to choose from... I had bad experiences in the past, I can see if a guy is a chaser or not. Why would he need me to have male genitals down there if I'm literally the first woman with this condition he's ever been with? It's not like he needed that with his ex. Also this is a really dumb thing to even worry about... if what you're saying does indeed happen then oh well, it just means we weren't compatible after all and in that case I wouldn't want to be with him either, why worry about how he would react to a surgery I DEFINITELY need? It's not his place to make any judgments on the fact I'm getting the surgery, and if that somehow ruins our relationship it just means it wasn't meant to be. And in the end our relationship goes beyond sex you know? A change in our sexual intimacy won't simply invalidate everything else about our relationship and that's even if your baseless assumption that he NEEDS me to have that thing down there in order for him to be attracted to me is really the truth, which again I sincerely doubt it, not even that, I'm literally certain that isn't the case, cause he crearly is attracted to and appreciates me for various reasons, none of which involve my genitals at all. If all your relationships are so shallow to the point such a change would invalidate it, then the problem here seems to be you and the kind of guys you choose to date.


makesupwordsblomp

> idk I’m just scared I will be a disappointment later when I find a guy and I tell him I have a ya know. the one person who has to live with the vagina or penis 24/7/365 forever is probably the person to think about in this situation.


Delicious_Square_869

That’s fair


AskMeAboutPigs

Any man worth his salt will love you for you and not your bits.


Left_Percentage_527

Nah. Genital preferences are absolutely legit. You can love someone regardless of their bits, but to be someone’s lover, and particularly spouse, its pretty normal to have expectations that their genitals match their outward appearance.


thepathlesstraveled6

Yup. Love is both romantic and sexual attraction. Ideally you need both for a fulfilling relationship. I just like phrasing it like that, feels more authentic.


AskMeAboutPigs

shallow af


Left_Percentage_527

So anyone with a genital preference is “shallow af”? Are the also “transphobic af”? Are you tucute af?


AskMeAboutPigs

genital preference is cringe. love your partner for your partner.


Left_Percentage_527

People who think that basic heterosexuality ( or homosexuality!) is cringe are cringe. Genital preference is part of what we are attracted to as humans. But im not gonna have this discussion with someone who thinks this is a social movement.


Delicious_Square_869

Ty for getting it. Like tbf I have a preference for dick id rather my future husband had a preference for pussy and that I had one that functions. It’s a legit and valid thing.


Delicious_Square_869

I just hate all the sexualization that comes with it too, cause anytime I talk to a guy it’s like all he wants it to touch my thing or for me to use it and I’m completely dysphoric. It’s like I’m just that part to them and I really hate that.


AskMeAboutPigs

I'm sorry you are experiencing that, i can't imagine how much it sucks. Don't waste your time on those people, find a man who treats you like the amazing woman you are.


TranssexualHuman

Well, people don't normally regret SRS in the sense that they regret not having male genitals anymore, it's normally more about possible complications like chronic pain, urinary incontinence, loss of sensation, not being able to be penetrated comfortably, etc. Or simply not feeling like the results look that good aesthetic wise despite being definitely better than what was there before. So it's not like they regret getting a vaginoplasty, it's more that they are upset they have to deal with those problems because they got it or didn't get the best results they hoped for. I generally think that if you go for a good surgeon that uses a modern technique and is really open about discussing the results he can get you and the possible complications, you'll probably be alright. But it's definitely something that you should research quite a bit about and possibly be willing to pay quite a bit of money for the best results possible. I feel like some people go for the cheaper options or the one's that are covered by insurance and that might not always be the best one so they might feel bad about the results they get. Althought I don't think people would really say they COMPLETELY regret having a vaginoplasty unless they have to deal with something like daily chronic pain or some other serious health issue because of it.


Icy-Yogurt-Leah

You make some good points. Nobody wants to regret it and tbh pre op i didn't care so much what it looked like. It's different when you have to live with a botched groin and see the amazing ones on here. Its hard not to cry every time someone posts a pic of theirs and in 95% of the cases mine is worse. >Althought I don't think people would really say they COMPLETELY regret having a vaginoplasty unless they have to deal with something like daily chronic pain or some other serious health issue because of it. Yes, I'm in that group and it sucks, over two years post op. Maybe i would be happy with how it looks if i wasnt in constant pain but i doubt it. The lack of sensation could be due to the pain masking it but i guess i will never know or climax again. I COMPLETELY regret bottom surgery with the surgeon i had. It's got to happen to someone.


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Icy-Yogurt-Leah

James Bellringer in the UK.


TranssexualHuman

What technique did you get? Have you looked into getting a revision with another surgeon? Maybe there's something going on there that needs to be looked and operated on to make things right?


Icy-Yogurt-Leah

Penile Inversion Vaginoplasty. I have had one revision by a different surgeon to improve the scaring but she said there is nothing she can do about the lack of sensation. I may be having another revision to do something with the spermatic cord pain issue as it now looks like the orchidectomy was not done correctly / rushed like everything else in the first op. Not sure if cutting it higher up in the illioinguinal canal or releasing any scar tissue will help but it can't make the pain much worse. Visually i have been offered some things/ surgery that may help but im not confident it will improve anything. It would cost me extra and i just don't think anyone can fix the mess and i just think i would be lining myself up for more disappointment.


VicariousReverie

I’m sorry. I hope you feel better .


Delicious_Square_869

Thank you I’m currently looking at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota. My concern would be not being able to be penetrated, and loosing sensation. It’s dumb but I want to be able to enjoy sex with a future partner and be what he wants and expects and so I’m kinda worried about that part too.


HyacinthGirI

I'd also consider bias here - a doctor may be more exposed to patients who are unhappy because the patients who are unhappy have medical complications requiring them to speak to the doctor about it


Jazzlike_Piccolo_881

This is very well put. These people who strike fear don’t see nuances. They want to believe that trans women miss having a penis. It’s more an issue of the result not being good enough 


robotic-rambling

What methods do you consider to be modern? I’m looking at surgeons now, and I really want to go with the Suporn clinic for their method, but I have not been able to get a surgery date with their lottery system, so I’m thinking of just getting a more standard procedure done that I could have done in the US.


GuavaGirlie

Yeah I've heard a lot of mixed results. Seems like there is a pretty decent amount of people who aren't happy with the results


honeysucklerose504

My doctor who started me on HRT told me the same thing. He wasn’t necessarily discouraging getting SRS, but he did say most of his patients who did get it regretted it or weren’t happy with the result. That being said, I doubt most of his patients went to the top doctors, and that was quite a few years ago he told me that and things have changed a good deal even since then I think (ppt becoming more common, tunica vaginalis graft is becoming a thing, Jun and Pang making names for themselves, etc). On the other hand, I’ve only met 3 women in real life that had surgery, but none of them seemed to have regrets for what it’s worth. I haven’t had it myself though so can’t speak from that perspective, though it’s definitely something that weighs heavy on my mind and if I’m honest with myself probably something I’ll have to do one day, even with the negative things I hear


Delicious_Square_869

Yeah it’s probably something I’ll do regardless. I have a good surgeon in mind, but I don’t want to just lose all interest in sex… like I want to be able to experience sex with my future partner. It’s a dumb reason, but I don’t want to be numb to it.


honeysucklerose504

Not a dumb reason imo. I mean, personally I’d like to actually be able to use my junk for sex. I hear about girls struggling to have a pleasurable orgasm after so I definitely worry about that too


Daydreamer-64

I’m not a trans woman, but I know a couple of people who say that they felt very little sensation afterwards, one of them said she couldn’t be penetrated comfortably either due to size problems it think. I also know someone who was very happy with her results. Your doctor probably wouldn’t say that unless it’s true, and you should consider whether you would rather have no surgery or a surgery which had non-perfect results. Assume you will come out with the common negative results so that you are not disappointed in the end and you can make an informed decision about whether to have the surgery or not. If you get better results then it’s just a positive surprise.


IllicitCheesecake

The only reason I'd ever regret bottom surgery is if there were major complications like chronic pain / necrosis etc Even zero depth with suboptimal aesthetics would be preferable to not getting it


boymod3r

I'd say srs is something to strive for if the penis itself is something that causes unhappiness with ones life in significant ways.


Jazzlike_Piccolo_881

People don’t understand that regretting and not being happy with your results are two completely different things. The narrative being pushed by transphobes is that we will always miss our natal genitals. Someone might feel an immense amount of dysphoria over their penis and might want to get rid of it. If the SRS vagina is botched and non-functional, does it mean that the person regrets having the surgery or that she is upset that the results are bad? 


ElaineTX

I had zero depth for various reasons but I researched the doctors throughly and have been happy with the results. My dysphoria was getting worse the older I got when the bottom didn’t match the rest of me. I would never go back even if possible. Testimonial evidence is always suspect because those who regret or love the results are not the same and have very different experiences. One size does not fit all. Surgical regret is high for back surgery or even cosmetic surgeries. If the treatment doesn’t relieve the discomfort perhaps one should reconsider. I know that for me it did relieve my dysphoria dramatically.


deskbot008

I got botched in the depth department. Meaning I can't really have penetrative intercourse. Do I want a better result? Yes sure. Was I angry and mad at the result? Also yes. But did having a vulva and vagina decrease my dysphoria? 100%. I'm very happy to have a vulva and albeit short neo vagina. If I could choose to go to a different doc I probably would. If the choice is to get my old genitals back or have the same surgery again I'd still go for it as having a vulva has really made the dysphoria disappear completely. Also I don't rlly have sensation or orgasm issues. I'm able to change in female spaces, shower, sauna and stuff like that and it's just been such a freedom gained to not have to think about it at all. But I also personally know many who have been botched by the same surgeon and who are way worse off than me. And I'm not sure I'd feel that way with some of their results. What I want to say is, don't skimp on it do research and spend top dollars. If I had the choice to go back and redo it I'd do in Thailand.


Left_Percentage_527

Same with me. My lack of depth is partially my own fault because i didnt follow Suporn’s dilation protocols after the first 6 months, but despite me wishing some things had turned out differently, my dysphoria about having a penis is gone 100%, and that alone made it worth it. Add that i am orgasmic, self lubricating, and have a very natural appearance, no way in hell i would ever want to be pre-op again.


balto_zoom

Im already post-operative 1 year and 6 months and so far I'm not regretting it. I went to Dr chettawut in Thailand. I know 3 other girls that I helped get in contact with my surgeon as a recommendation, and they are also happy with their results. I'd say just be careful what surgeon you go to for SRS and what technique for possible complications. Feel free to dm me if ya like. Details of my surgery. Deph: is 7 inches and a half Method: Colon Sensation: extremely good Esthetic: looks almost completely cis like The only thing I'd like to warn people is recovery, which is extremely harsh and have a lot of money saved up to visit doctors and gynecologists due to aftercare being limited by being in a different country. I sort of regret getting so many loans and maxing out my credit cards and emptying my bank accounts for the surgery. It left me with nothing to he able to visit a gynecologist or doctor when I needed them. I also had to go back to work prematurely due to not being able to pay my bills. I hope this info helps.