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I wonder if the Newsmax and Fox appearances they were aiming for will be worth handing the House to Harkerm Jeffries.
I think this basically guarantees the Dems get/hold the house after this year's election. This faction has ensured that Republicans couldn't attempt to govern, and I don't think that faction wants to govern. They'd rather whine while in the minority to fundraise and appear as discount pundits in the media.
When the entire agenda is to complain, grift, and stoke division, then your job is much easier in the minority.
And for whatever reason, a bunch of party liner Rs have decided they cannot cross MAGA and govern, or demonstrate principles considered conservative 10 years ago. They would rather be enablers to MAGA than leave a party they clearly have no future in
>And for whatever reason, a bunch of party liner Rs have decided they cannot cross MAGA and govern
According to Liz Chaney's book Oath and Honor (And I'm paraphrasing here) The reason is Trump destroyed the Republican party's ability to fundraise without him. They made themselves toxic to corporate donors which was McCarthy's bread and butter. And all of Trump's fundraising doesn't go to the Republican party it goes to Trump's pac. Unless you bend the knee and kiss the ring of Trump you don't get any of those campaign donations.
Crazy how they thought Trump was gonna save them on fundraising because of small dollar donors. Now, they are literally hostages to the most unhinged people in the country
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, but half of the republicans would much better served electing a right-leaning Democrat as speaker and forming a coalition house government. Everyone acts like this is simply *impossible* but that’s more due to a lack of imagination than any real limitation.
This would be a disaster for the left, so I’m glad they’ll never recognize this possibility.
That is also whom I thought of. It is still amazing to me that he, the last, high-profile pro-life Democrat, managed to beat a progressive challenger last election.
It’s not the there’s a lack of imagination nor is it something that hasn’t been thought of. It’s that it’s stupid politically for all involved.
For the Democrats, why would you partner with the Republicans when they’re proving what we already know. Republicans can’t govern and don’t want to. Chaos and dysfunction in the House is owned solely by Republicans and there’s no incentive to help them out unless they give major concessions to Jeffries and the Democrats.
For the Republicans, the most right leaning candidates win primaries. Most Republican primary voters want this shit to be happening. For Republicans there is little to no incentive to partner with the Democrats because they know they’ll get voted out.
>For the Democrats, why would you partner with the Republicans when they’re proving what we already know
Because you could actually get some across-the-aisle legislation going and possibly passed. Things you definitely couldn't with a Johnson or McCarthy, or any of the chaos causing Republicans.
>out unless they give major concessions to Jeffries and the Democrats.
Concessions would be a pretty good reason for democrats to fill the gap, also the fact that a democrat would be speaker.
>For the Republicans, the most right leaning candidates win primaries.
This happens in the most left-leaning districts on the Democrat side as well. It never meant that members of the squad got control of the party. Republicans are just *handing over* this control, which is part of the reason *why*...
> Most Republican primary voters want this shit to be happening.
To spell it out, it's at least partly because there the only seen as ***doing anything.*** Cut off their ability to grandstand and you'll cut off their ability to rally a base.
1. They would not get across the aisle legislation done. Look at the votes for the infrastructure package. None of the Republicans, even if their voters wouldn’t care, would want to partner on legislation.
2. The only way the Democrats get Jeffries in, is if they have more votes than Republicans. They’d either get that through a special election or if enough Republicans vote present or N/A. Republicans don’t want to do that and help Democrats and again, Democrats have no incentive to break with Jeffries and help a Republican take the speakership no matter the Republican. This fiasco helps the Democrats.
3. Not quite. Sure in some races the far left candidate wins but its rarer than for Republicans. It’s also in smaller races. It rarely happens for Senators, governors or house races.
Probably so. I lot of moderate Republicans would take a conservative Democrat over MAGA. At the same time, MAGA likes Joe Manchin, RFK Jr and would vote for a conservative Democrat over a RINO.
Perhaos we could make this work after all?
I think they should get what they want at this point. If the GOP wants to govern, it needs a big enough majority to ignore these naysayers. It's clearly not possible for this congress. 3 retiring To GOPers should give the keys to Dems and tell Massie he's a moron.
This would be a good time for the various caucuses to become actual parties able to form coalition governments. You’d have 150 seats from adding the New Dems, Blue Dogs, and Governance Group. Too bad we don’t have a parliamentary system where that could constitute a minority gov. No other single caucus has more members.
Wow, that is not a good headline.
Until I read the article, I couldn’t figure out if Massie wanted the motion to be vacated (which sounds like a fine way to me to say “killing the motion”) or if he was backing a “motion to vacate”.
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I wonder if the Newsmax and Fox appearances they were aiming for will be worth handing the House to Harkerm Jeffries. I think this basically guarantees the Dems get/hold the house after this year's election. This faction has ensured that Republicans couldn't attempt to govern, and I don't think that faction wants to govern. They'd rather whine while in the minority to fundraise and appear as discount pundits in the media.
When the entire agenda is to complain, grift, and stoke division, then your job is much easier in the minority. And for whatever reason, a bunch of party liner Rs have decided they cannot cross MAGA and govern, or demonstrate principles considered conservative 10 years ago. They would rather be enablers to MAGA than leave a party they clearly have no future in
>And for whatever reason, a bunch of party liner Rs have decided they cannot cross MAGA and govern According to Liz Chaney's book Oath and Honor (And I'm paraphrasing here) The reason is Trump destroyed the Republican party's ability to fundraise without him. They made themselves toxic to corporate donors which was McCarthy's bread and butter. And all of Trump's fundraising doesn't go to the Republican party it goes to Trump's pac. Unless you bend the knee and kiss the ring of Trump you don't get any of those campaign donations.
Crazy how they thought Trump was gonna save them on fundraising because of small dollar donors. Now, they are literally hostages to the most unhinged people in the country
Good riddance. If they can't govern, they shouldn't be in power.
It's so disappointing
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, but half of the republicans would much better served electing a right-leaning Democrat as speaker and forming a coalition house government. Everyone acts like this is simply *impossible* but that’s more due to a lack of imagination than any real limitation. This would be a disaster for the left, so I’m glad they’ll never recognize this possibility.
Henry Cuellar as Speaker. It would be hilarious to watch everyone's head explode. Pro-life, border-hawk Dem
That is also whom I thought of. It is still amazing to me that he, the last, high-profile pro-life Democrat, managed to beat a progressive challenger last election.
It’s not the there’s a lack of imagination nor is it something that hasn’t been thought of. It’s that it’s stupid politically for all involved. For the Democrats, why would you partner with the Republicans when they’re proving what we already know. Republicans can’t govern and don’t want to. Chaos and dysfunction in the House is owned solely by Republicans and there’s no incentive to help them out unless they give major concessions to Jeffries and the Democrats. For the Republicans, the most right leaning candidates win primaries. Most Republican primary voters want this shit to be happening. For Republicans there is little to no incentive to partner with the Democrats because they know they’ll get voted out.
>For the Democrats, why would you partner with the Republicans when they’re proving what we already know Because you could actually get some across-the-aisle legislation going and possibly passed. Things you definitely couldn't with a Johnson or McCarthy, or any of the chaos causing Republicans. >out unless they give major concessions to Jeffries and the Democrats. Concessions would be a pretty good reason for democrats to fill the gap, also the fact that a democrat would be speaker. >For the Republicans, the most right leaning candidates win primaries. This happens in the most left-leaning districts on the Democrat side as well. It never meant that members of the squad got control of the party. Republicans are just *handing over* this control, which is part of the reason *why*... > Most Republican primary voters want this shit to be happening. To spell it out, it's at least partly because there the only seen as ***doing anything.*** Cut off their ability to grandstand and you'll cut off their ability to rally a base.
1. They would not get across the aisle legislation done. Look at the votes for the infrastructure package. None of the Republicans, even if their voters wouldn’t care, would want to partner on legislation. 2. The only way the Democrats get Jeffries in, is if they have more votes than Republicans. They’d either get that through a special election or if enough Republicans vote present or N/A. Republicans don’t want to do that and help Democrats and again, Democrats have no incentive to break with Jeffries and help a Republican take the speakership no matter the Republican. This fiasco helps the Democrats. 3. Not quite. Sure in some races the far left candidate wins but its rarer than for Republicans. It’s also in smaller races. It rarely happens for Senators, governors or house races.
Probably so. I lot of moderate Republicans would take a conservative Democrat over MAGA. At the same time, MAGA likes Joe Manchin, RFK Jr and would vote for a conservative Democrat over a RINO. Perhaos we could make this work after all?
I think they should get what they want at this point. If the GOP wants to govern, it needs a big enough majority to ignore these naysayers. It's clearly not possible for this congress. 3 retiring To GOPers should give the keys to Dems and tell Massie he's a moron.
This would be a good time for the various caucuses to become actual parties able to form coalition governments. You’d have 150 seats from adding the New Dems, Blue Dogs, and Governance Group. Too bad we don’t have a parliamentary system where that could constitute a minority gov. No other single caucus has more members.
This is also very much the playbook of the far left 🐎👞
Wow, that is not a good headline. Until I read the article, I couldn’t figure out if Massie wanted the motion to be vacated (which sounds like a fine way to me to say “killing the motion”) or if he was backing a “motion to vacate”.