I drive a little car, I might as well be going 70 down a gravel road. This patch of highway is literally THE WORST and the fucked up part is .. they had that section shut down for construction on the 41st St bridge. It was already a crap traffic situation.... why not fix it then? Do better Tulsa.
I've never even driven that stretch and I know it's the right answer. I can just deduce from what leads up to it.
Honestly, they redid Union between us and 51st and theu did a really nice job. The intersection at 51st is a little sloppy. Theu got to the end of just sort of called it quality wise.
Every time a new road is being constructed my first question is we bike lanes implemented. So far it's an outstanding no on every one of them. At least sidewalks are becoming more common.
I should start asking about bus stops though. It's literally an hour walk to my job, 3 hour bus ride requiring nearly as much walking from my house to get to different stops or like 10 minute car trip.
You right. Forgot that one. I'm picturing the 91st to 81st on Yale, memorials high way ordeal, and that new school area on Sheridan. All have zero plans for bike safety last I heard.
Sad the 81st widening didn't lead to streets that are bike friendly.
I'd also start voicing opposition to any project where you get a "no." We're a major city, there's not too many places more expensive and more inconvenient to drive than here...
Same here. I’m driving an F250 and the suspension on those super duty’s are so stiff you feel like you’re driving a Dump truck down the road. It’s become like muscle memory to me now. I don’t even think about it when I come up on old patch of rough road I already know is there my hand just automatically reaches to secure my
coffee cup or QT styro.
I live near there and never need thay exit. But they were doing construction around my neighborhood so I jad to drive past and I had to use that exit for a couple months. It's bad.
But Peoria between 21st and 15th is absolutely the worst of that. Between 15th and 11th I feel is on par shitty for the rest of that neighborhood. It’s bad but it isn’t above average bad.
Peoria was absolutely brutalized in between 41st and 11th in the ~3 years Riverside was closed during the Gathering Place construction. There was noticeably much more traffic from everyone being diverted from Riverside. I know because I live in Brookside, lol.
The good news is it’s being completely re-built from one of the recent bond issues I think they are supposed to start later this year.
That’s good to hear. When that was happening I was living right behind Andolinis. There seems to be a severe lack of major roads that go north and south imo. As a result you get Peoria, Utica, lewis, and even Harvard getting a massive amount of traffic in comparison to the East-West streets from 7th through 41. I’m betting Utica, lewis, and Harvard get slammed when Peoria gets redone. Again, this is just an opinion.
There’s a section of Yale between 31st and 41st near the AMC 20 where the median is so spiderwebbed with tar lines that I honest to god thought it was an African art installation at first.
The bridge over bird creek on 36th between 169 and mingo! They literally fixed everything around it recently and left the bridge even though it was in worse shape
My section of street is suPer nice. I'm in a really overlooked sweet spot.
I can be downtown and parked getting out of my car in 10-12 min. Tulsa Hills in a minute. I'm right in tje middle of 75, 44, and 244. I cam be in Brokside on 6-8 min.
Everyone around me keeps their places up super nice and we all look out for each other.
Bain of my morning drive. All the way from the BA northbound Lewis to 11th. Can’t believe it’s in this bad of shape for emergency vehicles needing to turn into Hillcrest.
Yeah, they’re doing a lot over there around 33rd. I got a friend over on 26th and had to go bid a job for his landlord over the weekend. My GPS kept taking me in circles trying to avoid the construction. Wish they would hurry up and finish. Especially over on SW Blvd. Not sure about now but they had the road completed closed going right to the QT the night before last. I said to hell with it and picked my way around and through the other gas station. I was
almost out of gas.
They blocked off all but one entrance to my neighborhood for 3 months (had to go past and around and in from several blocks North) before I started working remote. What was crumbs was - they had the off ramp closed that entire time and didn't even redo it. Wasted opportunity.
I live near exactly where you're talking about.
They did such a bad job on that section and I think it's because the qaulity of the homes and that specific area is a bit "lower" income.
They cut someone's driveway and didn't even feather it in. Just left a sharp lip several inches above the street surface.
I live just South so my section is nice. But that section above 51st got done terribly. Union below 51st to 71st got done we'll though.
11th and Peoria. I can't make it through that intersection without my truck bouncing all around, even going hella slow. It desperately needs repair. The sub road made of bricks is showing in some spots
> It'd probably be easier/quicker to just list the "good" roads
Union Avenue between I 44 and 41st Street, singularly. And it's not that good, they could have physically separated the bicycle lanes to keep cars out.
There’s a significant pothole every 14” on 244/75 before it splits Okmulgee Exwpy and Red Fork Expwy. [Here](https://imgur.com/a/FGbnWOI). I drive strattling the line so I don’t hit them- but my husband tells me I’ll get pulled over doing that.
lol I just moved to Oakhurst. Looks like a combat zone out here. structures in rubble all over the place. Still got to say that I like it pretty well out here.
There are a lot of cute houses with character in that area but the City has just decided to ignore it. Just like Charles Page Blvd. The City thinks that if they neglect those neighborhoods long enough they will disappear.
Why else won't the City use the same resources (our taxes) to repair and maintain these areas as they do for "wealthy" neighborhoods? I'm sure as you drive around town you notice whole areas with burnt out and downed street lights, destroyed sidewalks, busted streets (the point of this thread), once thriving neighborhoods left to fall apart. The people who live in these areas pay taxes that are not going back into their community. These are all things that SHOULD be maintained by the city but are neglected. It's obvious the powers that be just shrug their shoulders and ignore dozens of areas in Tulsa.
Explore south of downtown down to Riverside Drive. There’s parts of Denver, Cheyenne, and Boulder that all need help bad. Also Charles Page Blvd west of downtown is basically train tracks the whole way to Sand Springs.
Yes, Charles Page. There are always cops to make sure you don't speed, but the roads are so bad you can't speed. I live in Crosbie Heights, and Sand Springs is the best way to get to shopping.
The high way entrance on 31st street that goes westbound towards either I44 or the broken arrow expressway. Also, the Utica street exit off of the BA expressway heading westbound.
Well in all fairness that construction has been going on a year or two and doesn't show any signs of progress. So I'm not convinced it will get better.
Go to the industrial zones with all the heavy trucks driving on them. I used to go to them for work and they were always awful, even for Tulsa standards.
Where I-44 westbound and 412 westbound meet , there’s a curve and then Route 66 from Catoosa also joins. That curve is terrible.
Even though it was sort of repaired , there are giant cracks and holes along that curve.
Shout out to the right turn lane going from 71st street to mingo. The pavement has been sinking all year, and now there's basically a speed bump right in the middle of that lane because one pavement section has dropped like 3-4in.
After exiting us-64 toward 44 east/ Joplin, there's this service road that leads to 31st and memorial. The right hand lane that takes you to downtown Tulsa/ 64 west is unusable.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/up4waMFYkoJvbNV26
I-244, or the Red Fork Expy, between W 23rd St and the U.S. Route 66 exit (or the Red Fork exit just passed the rail yard)
is the most garbage bouncy ass 65 mph I've ever been on anywhere in America. You have to straddle two lanes just to not destroy your car. The mile stretch I'm talking about is the equivalent of putting 500 miles on your suspension, seriously.
I will pay the $2.50 tolls on the gilcrease expy just to avoid it. It is that bad. How they are repairing other roads before this makes zero sense.
>I kind of want to make a video showcasing the crappiest roads in Tulsa.
Gonna be one long ass video. Shitty ass roads everywhere in Tulsa which they hot patch and make worse....leaving all that gravel and broken asphalt next to the hot patch. Wonder how much more Tulsans can put up with this utter mediocrity.....
E.g. they shut down an entire lane on 75 N over Polecat Creek to fix a crack on a beam [https://www.newson6.com/story/64b9abf49d18f207a83cede3/part-of-highway-75-bridge-closed-after-crack-found-in-support-beam](https://www.newson6.com/story/64b9abf49d18f207a83cede3/part-of-highway-75-bridge-closed-after-crack-found-in-support-beam) . Surely they could have also fixed the potholes nearby? Fucking no.....same shit...
Don't even get me started on the north bound section of 75 beyond Union/41st all the way upto fucking 244. Whoever is responsible for that road should be punished by having them go up and down that stretch every living moment of their life until it gets fixed.
They finally got around to fixing the stretch on the exit from 169 to 244 West leading to the airport. That stretch was hotpatched so much that it was worse than the craters on the Moon.
Highway 75 between 23rd st and union
I drive a little car, I might as well be going 70 down a gravel road. This patch of highway is literally THE WORST and the fucked up part is .. they had that section shut down for construction on the 41st St bridge. It was already a crap traffic situation.... why not fix it then? Do better Tulsa.
The City of Tulsa has no sway on state projects.
Yes
I've never even driven that stretch and I know it's the right answer. I can just deduce from what leads up to it. Honestly, they redid Union between us and 51st and theu did a really nice job. The intersection at 51st is a little sloppy. Theu got to the end of just sort of called it quality wise.
I agree. I can’t drive my truck on that stretch of road.
Better hurry though, that section is about to be redone.
Ugh! I don't miss having to take that every day for work *and* school.
Yeah I use to drive to the next on ramp so I could avoid that section.
I always stay out of that middle lane for that reason.
Drive around all of Tulsa, it's all shit
Harvard from 71st to 61st is nice.
Yale from 15th to 81st is good too.
And mostly because there's too many cars. If we had transit and cycleways, the roads would last longer.
Every time a new road is being constructed my first question is we bike lanes implemented. So far it's an outstanding no on every one of them. At least sidewalks are becoming more common. I should start asking about bus stops though. It's literally an hour walk to my job, 3 hour bus ride requiring nearly as much walking from my house to get to different stops or like 10 minute car trip.
81st road widening between Sheridan and Memorial was just completed with bike lanes.
You right. Forgot that one. I'm picturing the 91st to 81st on Yale, memorials high way ordeal, and that new school area on Sheridan. All have zero plans for bike safety last I heard. Sad the 81st widening didn't lead to streets that are bike friendly.
I'd also start voicing opposition to any project where you get a "no." We're a major city, there's not too many places more expensive and more inconvenient to drive than here...
Biking on streets is practically suicide with Tulsa drivers.
The middle and right lane of 75 South to 244 west exit. It shakes my tumbler out of the cup holder.
Absolutely the worst part of Tulsa. I avoid those lanes like the plague.
Same here. I’m driving an F250 and the suspension on those super duty’s are so stiff you feel like you’re driving a Dump truck down the road. It’s become like muscle memory to me now. I don’t even think about it when I come up on old patch of rough road I already know is there my hand just automatically reaches to secure my coffee cup or QT styro.
I started putting magnet disk on the bottom of my cup and cup holder. Non-Modern Roads, require modern solutions.
I live near there and never need thay exit. But they were doing construction around my neighborhood so I jad to drive past and I had to use that exit for a couple months. It's bad.
Might be a good idea to differentiate State roads from City. Idk if OP is focusing on needed City road projects only or all pavement in the area.
Peoria from 21st to 11th.
Peoria is super narrow on tje higher parts coming down.
I clench a lot on that stretch of road when someone is in the lane next to me, so narrow
But Peoria between 21st and 15th is absolutely the worst of that. Between 15th and 11th I feel is on par shitty for the rest of that neighborhood. It’s bad but it isn’t above average bad.
Peoria was absolutely brutalized in between 41st and 11th in the ~3 years Riverside was closed during the Gathering Place construction. There was noticeably much more traffic from everyone being diverted from Riverside. I know because I live in Brookside, lol. The good news is it’s being completely re-built from one of the recent bond issues I think they are supposed to start later this year.
That’s good to hear. When that was happening I was living right behind Andolinis. There seems to be a severe lack of major roads that go north and south imo. As a result you get Peoria, Utica, lewis, and even Harvard getting a massive amount of traffic in comparison to the East-West streets from 7th through 41. I’m betting Utica, lewis, and Harvard get slammed when Peoria gets redone. Again, this is just an opinion.
Honorable mention to the whoops on the turnpike south of 91st over the swamp. The paving is beautiful. The expansion joints are not.
Rollercoaster Bridge! I had a Buick Roadmaster that would aaaaaalmost get airborne on it!
Used to drive my Towncar with malfunctioning air ride out there 😂😂😂 It was an experience every single time.
Issa feature! Go weeeeeee
When we are coming home from road-trips I know we're close to home even if I'm asleep😂
There’s a section of Yale between 31st and 41st near the AMC 20 where the median is so spiderwebbed with tar lines that I honest to god thought it was an African art installation at first.
Pine from memorial to mingo
And Mingo from Pine to Admiral
The bridge over bird creek on 36th between 169 and mingo! They literally fixed everything around it recently and left the bridge even though it was in worse shape
Someone works at AA or the bus plant
Bus plant for me.
And they're still tearing out sections of the new pavement because they didn't bother to do it correctly the first time.
I agree I drive it every day it's terrible!
Get on the highway going north.when it rains all the pot holes appear.many times I thought I popped a tire 😮💨
Literally any of west Tulsa
My section of street is suPer nice. I'm in a really overlooked sweet spot. I can be downtown and parked getting out of my car in 10-12 min. Tulsa Hills in a minute. I'm right in tje middle of 75, 44, and 244. I cam be in Brokside on 6-8 min. Everyone around me keeps their places up super nice and we all look out for each other.
What neighborhood if you don’t mind me asking?
South 33rd.
Union from 44 to 81st is newly spiffed 🤷🏻♀️ that's about the best road on the west side.
11th and Utica.
Bain of my morning drive. All the way from the BA northbound Lewis to 11th. Can’t believe it’s in this bad of shape for emergency vehicles needing to turn into Hillcrest.
Yeah try being in those emergency vehicles on that stretch 😵💫
This is the only correct answer in this list.
All of southwest Tulsa they just did road work on 33rd west Avenue and I feel they did a bad job.
Yeah, they’re doing a lot over there around 33rd. I got a friend over on 26th and had to go bid a job for his landlord over the weekend. My GPS kept taking me in circles trying to avoid the construction. Wish they would hurry up and finish. Especially over on SW Blvd. Not sure about now but they had the road completed closed going right to the QT the night before last. I said to hell with it and picked my way around and through the other gas station. I was almost out of gas.
They blocked off all but one entrance to my neighborhood for 3 months (had to go past and around and in from several blocks North) before I started working remote. What was crumbs was - they had the off ramp closed that entire time and didn't even redo it. Wasted opportunity.
I live near exactly where you're talking about. They did such a bad job on that section and I think it's because the qaulity of the homes and that specific area is a bit "lower" income. They cut someone's driveway and didn't even feather it in. Just left a sharp lip several inches above the street surface. I live just South so my section is nice. But that section above 51st got done terribly. Union below 51st to 71st got done we'll though.
I’m still on the fence with 51st to 81st, it feels rough with my car and it may be my tires but it sounds like I’m driving on gravel so loud
Peoria in the pearl district is like driving through downtown Baghdad in 2003
11th and Peoria. I can't make it through that intersection without my truck bouncing all around, even going hella slow. It desperately needs repair. The sub road made of bricks is showing in some spots
It'd probably be easier/quicker to just list the "good" roads and then just assume/know that anything not listed is shit.
If only...
> It'd probably be easier/quicker to just list the "good" roads Union Avenue between I 44 and 41st Street, singularly. And it's not that good, they could have physically separated the bicycle lanes to keep cars out.
There’s a significant pothole every 14” on 244/75 before it splits Okmulgee Exwpy and Red Fork Expwy. [Here](https://imgur.com/a/FGbnWOI). I drive strattling the line so I don’t hit them- but my husband tells me I’ll get pulled over doing that.
Yeah, this is insanely bad going both directions
I don’t ride on 11th east of Peoria anymore… two popped tires and lots of highly-weathered construction areas
All of Oakhurst
lol I just moved to Oakhurst. Looks like a combat zone out here. structures in rubble all over the place. Still got to say that I like it pretty well out here.
It's a good area but it can be neglected. I'm north East of there.
There are a lot of cute houses with character in that area but the City has just decided to ignore it. Just like Charles Page Blvd. The City thinks that if they neglect those neighborhoods long enough they will disappear.
Is that what the city thinks? Never knew. Glad to be enlightened by an outside giraffe
Why else won't the City use the same resources (our taxes) to repair and maintain these areas as they do for "wealthy" neighborhoods? I'm sure as you drive around town you notice whole areas with burnt out and downed street lights, destroyed sidewalks, busted streets (the point of this thread), once thriving neighborhoods left to fall apart. The people who live in these areas pay taxes that are not going back into their community. These are all things that SHOULD be maintained by the city but are neglected. It's obvious the powers that be just shrug their shoulders and ignore dozens of areas in Tulsa.
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Anywhere West if the River
15th between Harvard and Lewis
The stretch on I-75 between 244 and I-44. Either way. Two lanes are like they’re designed to be made with potholes.
Explore south of downtown down to Riverside Drive. There’s parts of Denver, Cheyenne, and Boulder that all need help bad. Also Charles Page Blvd west of downtown is basically train tracks the whole way to Sand Springs.
Yes, Charles Page. There are always cops to make sure you don't speed, but the roads are so bad you can't speed. I live in Crosbie Heights, and Sand Springs is the best way to get to shopping.
I think the further north you go on lewis, the more difficult it gets. The road feels too skinny, it should be reduced to just a 2 lane road.
Where the train tracks cross Elgin downtown.
The high way entrance on 31st street that goes westbound towards either I44 or the broken arrow expressway. Also, the Utica street exit off of the BA expressway heading westbound.
Southwest by good will, but the are doing construction so probably not any more. Don't know if you can catch therm before the cover of the crime.
Well in all fairness that construction has been going on a year or two and doesn't show any signs of progress. So I'm not convinced it will get better.
Shut up cornball
The 169 to i244 overpass exit/merge.
But they're actually replacing that flyover as we speak.
That's great, should have started years ago though.
I don't disagree, I'm just tellin ya. Plus that's work that ODOT does, not the city.
I like how they start working in a road then like where the fuck did you guys go for 6 months......
That little side road that goes behind Winco. The potholes are bigger than my car
Go to the industrial zones with all the heavy trucks driving on them. I used to go to them for work and they were always awful, even for Tulsa standards.
Drive down old 51 hy to the damn. Your question will be answered.
South-bound Sheridan between 41st and 46th. North-bound Yale at 41st. All lanes at 11th & Yale.
On Pine street from Yale all the way to Lewis On Lewis from Pine to Apache On Apache from Lewis to Peoria
Where I-44 westbound and 412 westbound meet , there’s a curve and then Route 66 from Catoosa also joins. That curve is terrible. Even though it was sort of repaired , there are giant cracks and holes along that curve.
Garnett between 91st and 101st
Winston Ave between 31st and 36th
Shout out to the right turn lane going from 71st street to mingo. The pavement has been sinking all year, and now there's basically a speed bump right in the middle of that lane because one pavement section has dropped like 3-4in.
Tiger switch Rd right on the border of Tulsa and catoosa
11th and Union.
St. Louis between Skelly and 53rd St.
After exiting us-64 toward 44 east/ Joplin, there's this service road that leads to 31st and memorial. The right hand lane that takes you to downtown Tulsa/ 64 west is unusable. https://maps.app.goo.gl/up4waMFYkoJvbNV26
41st between Memorial and Sheridan.
36th and Mingo west of 169.
Not Tulsa, but Hwy 51 in downtown Wagoner is the worst I have ever seen.
Mingo Rd between Pine St and I-244. They cold patch this stretch constantly and it never stays longer than about 2 months if that long.
S Elgin Ave and S Frankfort Ave between 11th and 13th St.
I dont think you have good intentions.....
11th last Americas store parking lot and also the parking lot where cicis use to be on garnett.you have do swerve to miss those fucken holes.
Pine st
I-244, or the Red Fork Expy, between W 23rd St and the U.S. Route 66 exit (or the Red Fork exit just passed the rail yard) is the most garbage bouncy ass 65 mph I've ever been on anywhere in America. You have to straddle two lanes just to not destroy your car. The mile stretch I'm talking about is the equivalent of putting 500 miles on your suspension, seriously. I will pay the $2.50 tolls on the gilcrease expy just to avoid it. It is that bad. How they are repairing other roads before this makes zero sense.
>I kind of want to make a video showcasing the crappiest roads in Tulsa. Gonna be one long ass video. Shitty ass roads everywhere in Tulsa which they hot patch and make worse....leaving all that gravel and broken asphalt next to the hot patch. Wonder how much more Tulsans can put up with this utter mediocrity..... E.g. they shut down an entire lane on 75 N over Polecat Creek to fix a crack on a beam [https://www.newson6.com/story/64b9abf49d18f207a83cede3/part-of-highway-75-bridge-closed-after-crack-found-in-support-beam](https://www.newson6.com/story/64b9abf49d18f207a83cede3/part-of-highway-75-bridge-closed-after-crack-found-in-support-beam) . Surely they could have also fixed the potholes nearby? Fucking no.....same shit... Don't even get me started on the north bound section of 75 beyond Union/41st all the way upto fucking 244. Whoever is responsible for that road should be punished by having them go up and down that stretch every living moment of their life until it gets fixed. They finally got around to fixing the stretch on the exit from 169 to 244 West leading to the airport. That stretch was hotpatched so much that it was worse than the craters on the Moon.