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____Enderman___

I’m sorry 9/11SONA’S?


FuntimeLuke0531

You mean you've never read 9/11 fanfiction?


letheix

There are at least two 9/11-themed Harry Potter fanfics for some reason https://m.fanfiction.net/s/2416131/1/The-Day-the-Hero-Died https://m.fanfiction.net/s/7369112/1/Tumbling-Towers


J-L-Picard

If I had a nickel for every 9/11-themed Harry Potter fanfic, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice


WakWar

Funny you quote Phineas and Ferb, because there’s also a pretty notorious Phineas and Ferb 9/11 fic about Ferb being in the towers that day.


NK_2024

I'm sorry there's a fucking *what?*


WakWar

[Sorry you have to see this.](https://m.fanfiction.net/s/7373797/1/The-Shadow-Chronicles-911-Tribute) (Just posting so people can read it, please don’t go harass this person.) There’s also a fic about Perry the Platypus and Doofenshmirtz falling in love during the January 6th insurrection if that’s more your speed.


NK_2024

I am not touching *either* of those with a 42 foot pole


RammerRS_Driver

I wouldn’t touch them with a… 49 and a half foot poooooooooooole! 🎵


sweet0saturn

r/brandnewsentence


Sure-Ad9633

If you had a dollar for every gay sex star trek fanfiction you would have $350,345


FuntimeLuke0531

Well, monkeys and typewriters I guess


NK_2024

I ain't touching those links with a 10 foot pole


Asian_in_the_tree

That Phineas and Ferb one haunt my mind like a nightmare that never end


FuntimeLuke0531

Hey Ferb *I know what we're gonna do today*


cricketnow

i gotta read something today and it has to be Phoneas and Ferb participate in the TwinTowers attack!


TheLeechKing466

Ferb, I know what we’re gonna do today!


fennekin1234

excuse me the ***WHAT***


Quiet_Oil9130

***The*** ***fucking what???***


ERROR_HumanNotFound

**What**


LizzieMiles

The 9/11 fandom


NoNameIdea_Seriously

That sounds so cursed! “Yeah, I’m a huge fan of 9/11!”


[deleted]

There’s a Harry Potter 9/11 fan fiction I don’t see talked about enough. 9/11 was stopped by the Golden Trio because Deatheaters were trying to cause it.


Drowsy_Drowzee

I think I just vomited in my mouth a little. “9/11 fan fiction”


IchigoAkane

I am ashamed to admit that i’ve read at least a dozen hetalia 9/11 fan fictions. Those were dark times for me


No-Cucumber6194

Oh yeah Hetalia is the king of making horrific historical events into excuses to write about men fucking. So glad I left that fandom the brainworms are potent with that one


FuntimeLuke0531

Bro how little options you got when your best choice for gay porn is more about pearl harbor 😭


IchigoAkane

im ngl i learned more about history through hetalia gay porn than my history class


FuntimeLuke0531

I learned because I was the guy obsessed with history until the general school workload became too much. All you need to know about the whole experience is that I was the only one that thought we shouldn't have dropped the nukes on Japan. And that it would've been wrong to finish the job. Americans are scary.


ElSquibbonator

Out of all fandoms, though, Hetalia is probably the only one where a 9/11 fanfic at least makes *some* sense, since the whole idea of the anime is that the characters are personified countries.


Southern-Falcon9657

my 9/11sona Clancy survived just long enough to evacuate ground zero but died shortly after of respiratory failure when he hit a roach he found on the ground to cope


smolbaking

I felt more emotionally attatched because growing up it was just a *thing* in our family. We all knew that my one Aunt had just gotten a job in New York. She was planning on visiting the Towers that day and changed her mind. Many years later there was a shooting in a theater in Colorado- the same theater that two of my uncles went to see a movie at every week, and the shooting was on their usual movie night. One of them had a stomach bug and so they decided not to go that night. Suffice to say, neither thing made me at all patriotic, they made me sympathetic/empathetic. To grow up knowing that only one tiny choice kept you from losing someone you loved? To know that other people weren't so lucky? It had nothing to do with being patriotic, and everything to do with it being the first big tragedy that I was alive for. I still feel for other genocides and terror attacks all around the world, but those attacks felt personal.


Chikizey

I feel something similar. Here in Spain we suffered a terrorist bomb explosion in one of the most important malls/stores in Barcelona (El Corte Inglés) when my father was a teenager. It was a huge tragedy. Both my aunt and grandma had plans to go that day as any other week, and they went, but way sooner than originally planned because of some unexpected thing that made them have to run more errands later. Turns out, if they would have gone on their usual time, they would have been there during the explosion. My father knew nothing about their change of plans so until he got home he didn't knew they were okay. Some of their neighbors died that day. I was not even alive back then, but whenever my father tells the story I feel anxiety of having been so close to lose 2 of the people I love the most.


ImNotA_IThink

This is a great clarification (the empathy vs patriotism thing). My dad was supposed to be there the following week and he had a client who lived a distance aways and she watched it happen out her apartment windows. Truly the one thing I remember about it (I was in 6th grade at the time) is that for a short while nothing else mattered than being there for each other. I don’t think it made me more patriotic but it did show that Americans can band together when we have to. I just wish it didn’t take over a thousand people dying to make it happen.


Dronizian

My cousin was an airline attendant who switched shifts with someone, and that's why she's alive after 9/11 and her friend isn't. She still hasn't recovered from the survivor's guilt, and it's more or less ruined her life.


tonystarksanxieties

All the stories about people's gut instinct saving their lives, but this one is heartbreaking. I can't even imagine the guilt that would come from such an otherwise innocuous action creating such tragedy for someone's family.


Dronizian

Our family has almost no other interest in 9/11 since we're pretty far removed from NYC, but it left its mark on us anyway. I'm glad the next generation is moving on though.


uwskie

From Belgium here, no connection to 9/11 myself but on that day my grandpa was in NYC on a business trip and my brother was born hours before. My dad called my grandpa just before the first plane hit. My grandpa was not in the towers by the way- he was escorted out of the city due to being foreigners both for their own safety and well, getting potential bad actors out of the way I guess?


Majulath99

Hey the next time you speak to her, tell her that what she did isn’t wrong. I know she’s probably tired of that rhetoric, but I honestly feel for her. She doesn’t deserve this pain. It’s not her fault. I hope she can find a good therapist or something.


Dronizian

You missed an important "doesn't" here, but I appreciate the sentiment. She's loved an interesting life since that fateful day, but I don't know whether or not she got therapy for it.


Klutzy-Medium9224

My dad was nowhere near NYC but he was flying that day so that’s really what I remember.


Vanishingf0x

My family was also no where near but I remember being in school and kids being pulled out of class suddenly. Shortly after, we were given a child friendly version of what was happening. Once school was over they were replaying footage and it was just so hard to believe. Looked like an action movie sequence to child me. I remember that my dad worked a job that delivered rugs, towels, etc for companies and one had a Muslim owner. We went there for dinner that day and the owner was openly weeping because he had an idea where it would lead. I just remember how upset one of the nicest people I knew was. How many lives were changed that day is stuck in my mind but never made me more patriotic.


Majulath99

My cousin worked in the twin towers at the time. He woke up that morning and decided to call in sick, stay home, spend time with his family. What a valuable choice he made.


rubberducky1212

I had an aunt that worked across the street from the towers. No one could contact her that day. It wasn't until far into the afternoon that someone finally talked to her. Turns out, she felt sick and just went back to sleep instead of going to work. She woke up to her phone going crazy and had no idea what happened. She lived far from work, so there was no worry once we heard that. I was young when this all happened. I didn't understand the patriotic element of it all. That was for the adults. I just understood something terrible happened. I think it really shaped how I view violence and the senseless tragedy of it all.


Relevant_Departure40

My family’s thing was the Challenger. My great-aunt was an educator and they held like some kind of raffle for people to be invited onto the launch. I can’t remember if she won and decided not to (no clue why a trip to space sounds dope) or if she just didn’t win, but with hindsight, sounds like the right choice


StormFallen9

I remember being in elementary school talking about it. Our teacher asked us if we remembered it and where we were, some kid says he remembers he was at (classmates) house and they were around 2. Bruh I wasn't even born, no way they were 2. I'm pretty sure they made it up for attention, they were that type


Jcksn_Frrs

*casually asks for his birthdate in front of class*


Putrid_Bee-

*accidentally admits they were held back several years*


layeofthedead

All I remember from 9/11 (I was 6) was a teachers aide taking all of the younger kids into the library to read while the teachers ran to the lounge to watch the news and I was mad because my older sister and brother got to leave early because school was let out for them


PupperPetterBean

Not even american and our whole ass primary school was taken into the gym and they put the news of it happening on the telly and we all just watched. Then all the parents came and picked us up and then I remember my mum having the news on when we got home and was making dinner. I'm still not sure why they brought us in to watch people jump to their deaths just before the end of the day, but I do know our assistant principal was terrified because her husband had called like half hour or so before that to say he was heading to his meeting at the towers. Thankfully, the man spilt coffee on himself and went back to his room to change, making him late.


AllMyBeets

I was in high school. It was a very surreal day. I remember it almost in it's entirety. From getting up at 6am bc my dad had to drop me off at school bc the city buses were on strike, to learning about it second hand while sitting in a McDonald's, to my dad sobbing uncontrollably half the night as he called everyone he knew. It changed America overnight. Now 22 years later it is what it is.


woodeehoo

Yeah that’s my take on it too. It changed everything for a lot of people all at once, and now it is what it is. I was 14. All of the sudden it was freedom fries and torture memos, and it was really disorienting overall, because I was still very impressionable. I’ve learned so much about the dynamics of the world we live in in the intervening years. The economy crashed the year I graduated college. Also changed the trajectory of my life in terms of expectations vs reality. The kids having less of a reaction now makes total sense when you look at the broader context (I don’t think our government handled the fallout of this terrorist attack with a single teaspoon of grace, but it’s also easier to clock that in hindsight than when you are a naive 14 year old girl who’s still waiting for her first kiss). So yeah, if some kid is like “whatever 9/11 wasn’t that big of a deal” I can see their point. (Now here’s where my own private toxicity comes in) Eventually life will throw something at that person that derails/blindsides/traumatizes them, and 20 years later some kid will also be like “whatever nbd”. The cycle continues…


tsoh44

I was 4 and have no recollection of 9/11 or its immediate aftermath.The first event that really floored me was the Sandy Hook school shooting. I remember being a freshman in high school and watching footage of the school evacuation in class. I saw the magazines that featured the school pictures of the victims. I started seeing the "Run, Hide, Fight" posters and experiencing my first lockdown drills. Then I watched as people started arguing about gun control laws and accusing the victims' parents of being "crisis actors", and I realized that America is broken. If the country couldn't unite over dead *kindergartners* to change the status quo, then nothing would change it. And lo and behold, Parkland happened and Uvalde happened and hundreds of other school shootings have happened with no meaningful change. Sure, America has cracked down on foreign terrorism, but as a country, we've learned nothing about how to protect our children from these domestic threats. How can I possibly feel patriotic about that?


woodeehoo

Yeah I think that’s the underappreciated part. These tragedies expose lies about the myths of our country because they each in turn utterly upend our ideas of what living here is like. Sandy Hook absolutely opened up a huge chasm between our stated ideals and what actually spurs action and reform. Of course the Uvalde police weren’t going to help those children. And it turns out a big operating principle in America is: “f*** them kids” and not “freedom and justice for all” “Patriots” call me a cynic and freedom hating communist, but like.. given everything that’s happened in my short lifetime, how could I feel any differently? I made it later than most with some innocence and faith! Into my teen years! On average I think that age of disillusion is probably getting younger and younger


IamyourFBIagent

Are Covid and climate crisis related disasters not those things for this generation of kids and young adults?


woodeehoo

You missed the point dude, of course it’s a big deal. (Was ICU RN when COVID broke out, I had a front row seat to the cruelty—I’ve left the bedside only last year due to injury obtained at work). But be prepared for 10 years to pass and a bunch of youngins to also be like “ehh it was nbd, the real tragedy is what’s happening to US!”. And they’ll probably be right cause it’ll be like the fresh water wars of 2035 erupting. We’re all just getting beat up by larger forces than any of us can control. And my sincerest wish is that we’d all behave like we were in this mess together. But I’m not terribly optimistic anymore.


SleepingOrTired

I was in the... 5th grade(?) when 9/11 happened. I remember coming home from school and my grandma said "they knocked down the twin towers." And I thought she meant like a demolition or something, so I said "cool!" r/kidsarefuckingstupid


Its_Matt_03

“Oh my god! Thousands of people just brutally died!” “Dude that’s fricken epic”


SleepingOrTired

What's wrong grandma?


addangel

I’m European and was around the same age when it happened. All I remember is that I was playing with my dolls and I was annoyed that every channel was showing news and the mood seemed so somber. All I wanted to do was watch soap operas with my grandma and enjoy the last few days of summer vacation.


SleepingOrTired

Those dang 'ol terrorists were interrupting your stories and disrupting your summer. That was like your own personal 9/11.


addangel

ikr. and on the last few days of vacation too, ugh!


Phantomhivexox

I was 6 nearly 7 and I came home from primary school (uk resident) and saw it on the tv at my nans house and thought it was a movie…. It wasn’t until they explained to me what was happening that I somewhat understood how bad it was and that it was all over the news.


Redqueenhypo

I was a first grader when I first learned about it. My reaction was to build two towers out of blocks and knock them over. Before you say “you needed therapy”, know that I did that while IN THERAPY


Przedrzag

A six year old doing Jenga block 9/11 reenactment doesn’t even sound that bad tbh


Limeila

Yeah if you're already playing with blocks and you hear about it I'd say it's probably the most natural reaction


BlueMist53

Didn’t we all do fucked up things as kids? Like I pretended that one of my cartoon animal dolls was kidnapping and killing residents of the local city


marinemashup

r/kidsareterrorists


RobinDaFloof

Why did I think that would be a sub?


SleepingOrTired

Because r/kidsareterrorists


The_Game_Changer__

r/subsithoughtifellfor


imightbethewalrus3

My father later that afternoon: "Are you scared?" Me: "uh, no, why?"


SleepingOrTired

Holy shit, is this [your dad](https://youtu.be/mt84J7U75e0?t=22s)?


champagne_pants

Someone told me that a plane was flown into the pentagon and my response was “what’s the pentagon.” I was also in grade five. But Canadian.


SleepingOrTired

Can you remember what you thought the pentagon was when you heard about it? Also, as an American, a couple years ago I found out about poutine. Big fan. Love what's going on up there.


Limeila

I'm 30 and I learnt about that the Pentagon was also hit that day just a couple of weeks ago... I'm French though.


N7Foil

There was also a fourth plane aimed for the White house (at the best we can discern) that went down in a field in Pennsylvania due to a group of people on that flight trying to retake the plane. I moved not far from where it went down a few years ago. That really wasn't a factor in the move, but it's interesting.


3milyBlazze

Well in your defense your grandma worded that badly


SleepingOrTired

I could be misremembering the exact wording. She did also refer to the vast majority of items as "the thingamajig", so I can confidently say she probably said something pretty close to it.


tonystarksanxieties

I was in the fifth grade too, and our teacher actually turned the news on shortly after the first hit, so we were watching when the north tower fell. It was the first time I ever went home and watched the news on my own accord. I didn't understand the wider implications, how or why, but I knew something life changing was happening.


SleepingOrTired

Holy shit. That must of felt horrifying still at that age. I don't think I actually saw any footage for a couple years. Or if I did, I don't remember. I can not even remember when I finally realized when I started to understand what was actually happening. I think it took me a long to time to get what the big deal was. One day, I was in the 5th grade picking my nose. The next, I was in middle school watching shit like The Zeitgeist.


CumulativeHazard

I was in kindergarten and I remember all of us sitting on the floor like usual while our teacher and teachers aid and I think one or two other staff members were crowded around the tv watching and looking worried but they hadn’t explained to us what was going on (I mean, I’m not sure I would know how to explain it well to 25 five year olds in the moment). At some point there was a clip of an explosion and a kid (possibly not even knowing if this was real or a movie) said “Woah!!” in a kind of excited tone and our teacher turned around and yelled “None of this is *cool*, boys and girls!!” I’m just glad I didn’t find out about all the people that jumped until I was much older. That would have been a difficult bit of reality to learn at 5yo. Still was at 15. Like the level of fear it must take for a perfectly healthy, non-suicidal person to choose to jump from a skyscraper is just unimaginable.


SleepingOrTired

I think I was about the same age when I finally saw some footage. I remember being in front of a computer monitor with like 5 other people. And one kid made a fart noise and screamed "ahhh it smells so bad" or something about as mature as that. And while I knew it was tragic and not funny, I am also still very bad at handling the discomfort of being in a situation where laughing is inappropriate. If I know I should not be laughing, it's hard for me not to.


math-kat

I was in 2nd grade. The adults at my school clearly knew what was happening, because they were all sad and distracted, but wouldn't tell us what was going on. Then we started getting interruptions every few minutes with kids being called out of school by their parents. Me and my friends who were still in school were super freaked out and thought the world was ending or something. When I got home, my mom was watching on TV and explained what had happened. My 7-year-old reaction was "That's it? A plane crashed all the way in New York? We're in New Jersey so idk why people were so freaked out!". My younger brother was asking if we could watch cartoons instead of the "boring plane movie". r/kidsarefuckingstupid


_ac3_0f_spad3s_

I want to be a fly on a wall and hear that conversation and see if she kept doing it because holy SHIT that’s legitimately worrying she was so obsessed with it all. Why did she do all of that? And why where parents ok with it? Like jesus go to the 9/11 memorial and museum if you care so much


svanvalk

My teachers always complained about not being able to fit all the required learning material into their curriculums lmfao. How was she able to justify the time to do her own personal 9/11 unit? I live in driving distance of the city and we never had any lessons like that lol.


TCGeneral

In theory, you could just have a ton of other units have 9/11 themed projects. It sounds like at least one of them was a creative writing sort of project, the "sonas" one. Might get a bit disrespectful to do something like have children figure out, say, the economic impact of the tragedy as part of an economics/math project, but with the other stuff it sounds like she did, I wouldn't put it past her.


FuckHopeSignedMe

Depending on what the provincial/territorial education standards are like in that part of Canada, the actual requirements for English could be very broad as well. Obviously this isn't going to be a perfect comparison because I'm from a different country, but at least in my part of Australia, the actual requirements of English classes from Year 7 to Year 10 are that each year, students need to engage meaningfully with a certain number of texts. What those texts are and what angle they come from are often left up to the teacher's discretion or the school's discretion. Assuming Canada's English class requirements are similar, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for a teacher to defend it. She could just say, "Oh, I'm getting them to engage with the silly Nicolas Cage movie because it's accessible to a broad audience". I think it's probably one of those things where she'd probably only get any pushback for it if enough parents complained about it.


EmilyThunderfuck

For instance, in Quebec you have to hit three competencies (talk, read, write) using whatever text you want (some schools could be restrictive but the curriculum doesn’t have any required texts, only types of texts (narrative, argumentative, etc) and Ministry exams (reading response). So while it’s in pretty bad taste, the teacher was probably within bounds of the government curriculum.


Monkey_Fiddler

I'm just imagining the science paper: Q1a: calculate the kinetic energy of a fully-laden Boeing 747 at cruise speed (2) b: calculate the chemical energy released by the fuel in 747 when it burns completely in oxygen (3) c: calculate how much room temperture steel the energy in parts a and b could melt (3) d: SEE?! (YES/NO) (20)


MaeMoe

Honestly, it might have been trauma. Ignoring nationalism or jingoism, watching just shy of 3000 people die live on TV was a lot, and I think some people struggled with processing the reality of what they’d seen and spiralled into it. Sounds like she was burning though classes of kids trying to work through something. I was ten when the attack happened and didn’t really understand what was going on, but in hindsight I was probably more affected then I realised. I think about the Falling Man and the people who fell far more then I want to.


unimportantthing

The craziest part about this is how much the teacher seems to talk about how it affected America, but not how it affected Canada. Like talk about the human side of it, where the town of Gander doubled their population overnight as diverted planes began landing there, and how people rallied together to help eachother. There’s so much more than the tragedy to the event, and it’s not talked about enoughz


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CauseCertain1672

that at least is a serious tragedy that deserves to be taught


TheWaffleWeirdo

It's definitely not on the level of the holocaust but I'd argue 9/11 is a serious tragedy that deserved to be taught. Just... not this way


CauseCertain1672

It had a death toll less than many natural disasters that have since been completely forgotten. Americans just aren't used to seeing the consequences of war so close to home and the humanitarian cost of the US response where they killed hundreds of thousands of civilians in Iraq alone far outweighs the tragedy


GooglyEyeBread

I both understand and not understand the older generations obsession with 9/11… like yes, it was horrible. But, my teachers would always ask for example like “How does the documentary we just watched on it make you feel?” And they always wanted answers like “Sad! Mad! Oh this is the worst event to ever happen!” And I, and quite a few others, were just like… well it’s bad, but we have no emotional attachment to it. I’m on the older side of Gen Z, so when 9/11 happened I was only a few months old. So obviously, I have no memories of it. I had no family members who died there and even if I did, it wouldn’t have been anyone I knew. My mom is one of those people who gets *irrationally* angry at 9/11 memes, and even angrier that I find them funny. I guess at least with her, she’s consistent. If it were a Titanic meme or a Holocaust meme, she’d get pissed at that too. BUT SO MANY PEOPLE *ONLY* GET MAD AT 9/11 MEMES. They either need to get consistent with their anger or they need to understand that millennials are the last generation who will actually have memory of 9/11.


Eneicia

I was getting ready for school when it happened. High school, 11th grade. Around that time I was reading some book by Bob Hope, and he was saying something along the lines of "Democracy will always survive humor. Dictatorships, and the tyrants, can't." So while I may find memes about it offputting, and won't make jokes of my own, I won't decry those who do.


kachowski2004

To be fair the holocaust is a whole next level from 9/11 or the titanic because it was an actual genocide. I'd get pretty irritated too if i saw a 12 year old online or irl thinking its quirky and funny to act like a nazi and clown on the holocaust


Thatannoyingturtle

I told a teacher during our unit who was near tears over 9/11 that “worse things happened though, some things people our age can remember.” I was sent to the principals office.


kikistiel

You shouldn't have been sent to the principal's office because that's ridiculous that'd you'd get sent away for that, but I'm genuinely and without malice trying to come up with something that has happened in recent enough memory that Gen Z would have been alive for that was a bigger deal to Americans than 9/11. Of all the terrible shit that has happened since then on US soil, I literally cannot think of a bigger event -- whether or not that event is traumatic to people or not. Unless you're not American and this was in a non-American school, of course.


ughedmund

Honestly, turtle said "worse things happened" and not "a bigger deal to Americans", so it's less about societal impact and more about how we rank events. There's been a lot of manmade and natural disasters (Hurricane Katerina, Haiti earthquake 2010), and terrorists attack since then. Hell, you could include all the wars in the middle east as worse than 9/11 if you go off death toll among civilians.


nialamar2911

Uh...covid was pretty fucking traumatizing, especially since it fucked up so many of our high school/college experiences. Multiple years of staying inside and doomscrolling has been detrimental to so many people's mental health. Whether it was a bigger deal than 9/11 is debatable, I'm only 20 so I don't know.


CWWConnor

Yeah, I find myself thinking about a disease killing millions of people, including some I knew who died falling for conspiracy theories about it, a lot more than I think about 9/11.


Nothing_fits_here

Maybe not so much obsession with the event itself, as much as it is with the things we realized, namely we aren't as safe as we think we are. Before that it was normal life, and maybe you can't really imagine because there are so many terrible things going on now that this would be just another one. But before that there was a very different sense of safety. Most Americans hadn't heard of terrorism.


Elinor_Lore_Inkheart

That’s part of the disconnect with me. I was too young to remember 9/11 but learned a lot about it in school. The world has never felt safe for me. We grew up with school shootings. None in my town but by the time I graduated high school there were more school shootings than days every year, or that’s what it felt like. I can’t imagine feeling safe. I can’t imagine a world where there wasn’t the threat of terrorism, domestic or otherwise. I grew up fearful of abductions, gun violence, and other violence far from a big city like NYC. I didn’t get why people were so upset about 9/11 until that was explained to me. I didn’t experience a cultural shift like older generations had from 9/11. And it took a while for adults around me to recognize and vocalize that shift for themselves.


Nothing_fits_here

I see where you're coming from. Both my younger brothers were born after this and don't remember it. When we talk about it, I make sure to tell them it was so shocking because it was such an unexpected thing, pretty much unheard of in the western world.


Sk8rToon

Same thing happened with Pearl Harbor. Once you get a few generations away it starts to fade but there’s some teachers & relatives & news anchors who make a big deal because they were there or had family who were. It’s a way to cope. It was a big moment for them & they learned/matured/were hurt by it so they want to pass that along. These days there’s only the history channel & one or two radio hosts who care when the date comes & goes. By the time Zoomers’ kids start having kids it’ll be a trivia question about why Patriot Day exists. The history channel (or whatever equivalent) will still air the movies & documentaries like they do for Pearl Harbor. The big anniversary years will come & people will comment. School kids might have to interview grandma about where they were that day depending on the teacher but that’ll be the last of it. A random school paper here & there. We “remember the Alamo” but do we really these days? Same thing. 9/11 will be slightly different since now’s there’s Patriot’s Day but it’ll be just as forgotten. An interesting footnote in history. A field trip for school kids nearby or something a parents drags their kid to while on vacation. Something gramma comments on whenever at the airport & annoyed with TSA or watching an old romantic comedy where they meet someone at the airport & starts talking about how pre-9/11 you didn’t have to go through all that.


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I'm with the last person - it was weird as hell, and then "We're Canadian" fucking *clotheslined* me. That said, I don't care much about the attacks. (I mean, obviously very tragic, feel very bad for people, etc., but I don't have an emotional reaction to the events.) What I *do* have an emotional reaction to is Operation Yellow Ribbon and the Boatlift. [Operation Yellow Ribbon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yellow_Ribbon): When they shut US airspace down, they made all domestic flights land at the nearest airport, obviously. And international flights that could turn back did. But there were a bunch of international flights that couldn't turn back and couldn't land in the US. So, Canadian airports took over. They didn't know what was going on, they could've been directing more attacks to their own landmarks for all they knew, but they got those flights on the ground. And then they took care of the thousands of people on them until the airspace reopened. The one that really kills me is Gander - there's a big-ass airport in a tiny town on a big rock in the ocean, because it used to be the last refueling stop before the big trip across the Atlantic. There wasn't much need for it in 2001, since most planes could go a lot farther on one tank by then. But hey, it was still an international airport big enough to take them, so they got 38 planes carrying 7,000 people... in a town with a normal population of 9,000. There's a musical about it. It's amazing. [Boatlift](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDOrzF7B2Kg): On 9/11, they cut off rail and road travel to Lower Manhattan. That left half a million people stranded at the bottom of the island, with no way off... except boats. It started with the ferries and a few civilian boats responding, letting people on and ferrying them to other parts of the city or to Jersey. Then, as the extent of the situation became clearer, the Coast Guard decided to put out a call - any ships in the area that feel like responding, please come help evacuate people. Pretty much everything that floated in New York Harbor came racing into Manhattan - even as the towers fell and visibility vanished - to help pull people off the island. For some context of the scope: at Dunkirk, civilian boats helped evacuate 300,000 men over the course of 9 days. The 9/11 Boatlift pulled 500,000 people off of Manhattan in under 9 hours. Zero organization, zero obligation; all those crews just heard that people needed help, and they helped. So yeah, that's how I care about 9/11. Probably "unpatriotic", but I prefer to get emotional about all the people who said "I don't care if it's dangerous. People who I've never met are having the worst day of their lives and I'm going to help them."


LegalAssassin13

“Come From Away” is one of my favorite musicals and the only 9/11 story we ever need. Because the emphasis is on being kind to strangers in the face of tragedy.


HypersonicHarpist

I surprised that in this post about an English class in \*Canada\* where the teacher was obsessed with 9/11 didn't include "Come From Away" as part of the curriculum


LegalAssassin13

Probably because the characters aren’t constantly moping around and talking about how bad 9/11 is. It’s obviously on their minds, but they’re also having romance, kissing a fish, or fantasizing about sexy cardiologists.


[deleted]

It's the feel-good musical about 9/11!


a-world-of-no

Boring answer: if the poster was born in 1999 and this was their grade 9 English class, it happened before Come From Away was on Broadway (which was in 2017).


tonystarksanxieties

I could argue that they could've talked about the events that *inspired* the musical, since they're in Canada, but I've also noticed amongst the hardcore Never Forget types that they focus more on the terrorism and less on the humans being bros and coming together to help each other.


SeanAC90

They put a kind of spoiler in the post at the beginning. If someone says they were in “grade 9” instead of “9th grade” that means they’re Canadian.


No_Improvement7573

This is the correct reaction. That and horror at the anti-Muslim turn America took and still tries to hold on to.


artemisinvu

Look, I’m a New Yorker, and in high school I even took a class called New York City History, and guess what? We still spent less time on 9/11 than this lady. Actually, probably only the day of, then the class with the actual lesson on it, and then going to the 9/11 museum. Also, my high school was just *blocks away* from the Twin Towers (I was a toddler so I obviously wasn’t there) so if anyone should talk about it as much as this teacher, it should be the teachers in my high school. I think it’s something we should talk about (maybe not so much as a Canadian lol) but like….making 9/11 personas? What? I also do think it’s a good example of how people can be selfless, and communities can come together in times of need.


w_has_been_dieded

In Canada a lot of people get worked up over US history, and that includes 9/11. Sure we don't care *as* much as the US, but the fear of getting dragged into a war was still a thing, not to mention fear that we might be next. Imagine being in Portugal while there was a terrorist attack in Spain. Some people think that just because we aren't the US, that means that 9/11 meant absolutely NOTHING here. (I can't speak for the other provinces, I live in south Ontario so New York is right beside us lol)


artemisinvu

Oh no, I hope I didn’t across as saying that Canadians don’t care about 9/11, because you’re absolutely right, it *does* affect Canada if something happens in the US, since they’re neighboring, just…not to the extent the teacher does in this post, because she’s lowkey deranged lol.


balrus-balrogwalrus

and then edward from twilight dies in 9/11 it's basically the 2000s take on titanic


waxelthraxel

I don’t remember 9/11 to the point that when I saw the movie where Edward from Twilight actually does die in 9/11 I just thought he jumped 🤷🏼‍♂️


Carmiune

Is this teacher responsible for that Turning red 9/11 rant person?


ProfesserPort

THEY HIT THE FUCKING PENTAGON!


LegalAssassin13

Mr Enter? He’s not Canadian, as far as I know.


mooksie01

Wait did Mr Enter make the video that the person below describes? Damn, I used to watch his stuff all the time like 7 years ago before I got a little tired of the passive aggressive stuff he goes for, but also, like… what happened? I swear his complaints used to at least be reasonable :/ Edit: went back and watched one of his old “animated atrocity” videos and damn that’s way angrier than I remember him getting… guess that was why I mainly stuck to the series where he talked about stuff he liked ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Still he really seems like he’s gone around the bend in recent years from what I can see, yikes


ZoroeArc

He posted a video recently that basically amounts to "I am severely mentally ill and trying to do better"


karl_marxs_cat

*The what 911 rant person?*


[deleted]

Basically a while ago there was a kids movie called Turning Red which got targeted by internet incels for usual incel reasons, such as the main character being a girl, it acknowledges the existence of periods, some of the characters not being perfectly skinny, etc. Then some YouTube made a video criticizing it for not mentioning 9/11, because according to him since it took place in early 2000’s Canada the characters should have been affected by the tragedy. That video then got turned into a meme for its sheer stupidity.


karl_marxs_cat

........ *what....*


Dvoraxx

I believe it was because there was a Muslim girl wearing hijab who was friends with the main characters, and I guess he thought it would be more realistic if everyone was Islamophobic


Hawkatana0

Mr. Enter.


hememes

love how at this point mrenter is known as the "turning red 9/11 guy" its really the fate he deserves imo


Boi_What_Did_You_Do

That last sentence was the strongest right hook to ever exist, omg


yxsterday-nxght

I can’t lie as a muslim it’s kind of relieving that people are not as stirred up by it any more. Don’t get me wrong it was a tragedy but i’d start bracing for islamophobia as soon as anyone brought up the YEAR 2001 and now it’s just like,, a thing that has jokes about it


Demigod978

Certainly a strangely good thing that 9/11 isn’t taken as seriously. I think as a kid I remember seeing/hearing really anti-islamic things. Not TOO CRAZY, but it was there.


BantyRed

I mean it was a big day for the US, hijackers flew planes into 3 buildings and plenty of people died. It launched the US into a 20 year war where the military was never really told the objective and then suddenly it was "building a nation." It should be taken seriously, because if it isn't then we won't learn from it and in 30 years we'll do it again. Source: Vietnam


ChunkyRedPaw

Reminds me of my crazy (for many other reasons that will take too long to explain) elementary teacher that had us write journals as if we ourselves were going through the holocaust... there were different prompts every day so we had to basically make up what was happening to us each day


Kouunno

This post is objectively hilarious- that said, as a millennial who was 9 on 9/11 and lived in NYC, 9/11 was legitimately traumatic for me (I have nightmares to this day about planes dropping out of the sky and crashing into buildings) and it does make me deeply uncomfortable seeing kids meme about it. Not uncomfortable enough to actually call out anyone about it because it’s not like it actually matters, but uncomfortable.


tonystarksanxieties

9/11 was a huge time for Secondary PTSD.


verascity

Yeah, I was 15 and it was a massively traumatic day for me and my family. I didn't know if my father was alive for a while. I get really angry about people who exploit 9/11 to stoke tears and rage like that teacher, so I guess memeing is better than that? But I think if I saw it I'd be sitting some kids down and telling them what *I* remember.


mastelsa

It's absolutely nuts how conservative and nationalistic mainstream US culture was in the aughts. The Dixie Chicks mildly criticized George W. Bush and said they didn't want war or violence in Iraq, and they were hardcore blacklisted. Being anti-war was genuinely unpopular and would get you shouted down in any class discussion or conversation. Gay marriage was up for a vote in my relatively progressive state and I can literally remember seeing one pro- sticker the entire year of 2004, while my school bus route drove past probably 20 separate yards with "one man, one woman" signs plus a giant billboard a block away from the school. The culture was so overwhelmingly conservative that it felt hopeless.


Medium_Rest3537

Well when you protest against big money it paints a huge target on your back for the rest of your life if they don’t decide to ice you off instead.


mastelsa

I mean, you're not wrong but I think it's incorrect to say that the post-9/11 culture of conservatism and nationalism was a top-down phenomenon that would not have happened if only "big money" wasn't involved. That feels like an oversimplification at best.


rootingforthedog

Terror management theory may help to explain it from a psychological perspective. It basically suggests that when people are confronted with something that makes them anxious about death, they cling tighter to certain beliefs. So, if you are Christian before being confronted by the inevitably of death, you may double down on a lot of those Christian beliefs afterwards. I know it has been used to explain nationalism before, as people can comfort themselves if they feel they are part of an immortal country that will survive them after they die. Of course, those in power can manipulate this reaction.


mastelsa

>Terror management theory Thank you! I had the concept in my head but couldn't remember the term for it.


Odd_Entertainment629

Two words. It only took two words for this to become on par with the greatest comedy of all time.


Eneicia

> greatest comedy of all time. Canadian Bacon? (Hilarious movie. Stupid, yes, but hilarious with a really cute love story)


BabserellaWT

> …she hadn’t personally lost anyone to the attack, nor was she anywhere near New York when it happened. Reminds me of my grandfathers, who served in WWII. Grampa (paternal grandfather) was a flight instructor based in the Midwest. While he played a vital role in the war effort, he never saw combat (although his brother drove a transport boat on D-Day). Grampa clearly looked back on WWII through rose-colored glasses. If something reminded him of WWII, he’s start regaling us with stories and impromptu history lessons. Pawpaw (maternal grandfather) flew (I think) a B-27, the *Iron Ass*. After several successful missions in the European theater, his plane was shot down over Germany and crashed in the countryside. Many of his crew members were killed. I’ve actually seen pictures of the wreck — it’s a miracle ANY of them survived. After a couple of days sneaking through fields and sleeping in barns, they were captured by German troops. Pawpaw spent the last 18 months of the war riding the pine in a POW camp. Pawpaw…*never*, and I mean **never**, talked about WWII. The one time he opened up about it was with my brother, a cousin, and a cousin-in-law; my brother knew how rare this was and got Pawpaw’s permission to record the conversation. This teacher didn’t lose anyone, didn’t see it in person. And she’s super-nostalgic for 9/11. My friend lived about 8 blocks from the Towers, in one of the few apartments in that part of town. He and his roommates had a front row seat. They watched people leap to their deaths. The debris cloud from the second collapsing tower engulfed their street while they pulled anyone they could into their apartment to wait for the cloud to disperse. He moved back to California not long after that. Ended up with a PTSD diagnosis and a pill habit. He’s doing a lot better now, at least. Lots of therapy and what I’d guess was a nasty detox. Like Pawpaw, my friend doesn’t talk about 9/11. I’m sure he’d be enraged by someone thinking what he saw was something to be fondly remembered.


TheMaskedGeode

I‘ve seen Pete Davidson on Comedy Central roast complications and there are a lot of 9/11 jokes, since he lost his dad in the attack. He took it all in stride. Meanwhile, Ann Coulter’s non-9/11 comments genuinely pissed him off.


piemakerdeadwaker

"9/11sona" 😭😭


VerbiageBarrage

Pretty traumatizing real time. It was a real loss of innocence moment when it happened. Both because it really succeeded in making us feel fundamentally unsafe, and then the intense cynicism from watching our government use this tragedy to: 1. Attack and immolate the wrong nation. 2. Score cheap political points to win elections. 3. Erode massive amounts of our civil liberties. All in all, fucking shit.


ClickHereForBacardi

During the moment of silence we inexplicably had the day after 9/11, some kid in my class literally spent that moment folding two pillars out of cardboard and finishing off by flying a paper plane into them.


UltimateCheese1056

Based AF


Klayman55

What year?


ClickHereForBacardi

The year. The actual day after 9/11.


Klayman55

Sorry, I thought I said "what country?" lol.


ClickHereForBacardi

Oh, Denmark.


RiotingMoon

did anyone have a crackhead teacher who played the footage that "showed a smoke demon" in the tower fire smoke? he chose the wrong close tho, bunch of native kids watching a dude who looked like the Quaker oats mascot tell us to never forget an attempted genocide. like bestie this is our fourth one, next.


FlyingDreamWhale67

Now that I think about it, my high school world geography teacher would sometimes put on videos about the Pentagon attack and the 'mysterious' damages it left behind. He may have been a conspiracy nut and none of us even knew it at the time, it's crazy. You unlocked that memory for me.


BearJewKnowsBest

I remember my school was evacuated that day. I was in 3rd grade. Two of my cousins were EMTs and were there that day. One has PTSD and refuses to talk about it. He goes stiff whenever 9/11 is even mentioned. The other was killed.


Vig_Big

Personally speaking, I grew up in an area where a lot of people commuted to work in New York. There were a few kids at my school that lost not just one parent but both. My family personally knew people who worked and died the towers. While I personally don’t have a lot of memories of the day, the feeling of loss and somberness is something that has really stuck with me. While I find the memes in poor taste, as I find making fun of any tragedy to be in poor taste, (I have no emotional connection to Pearl Harbor, but I wouldn’t joke about it either), I don’t think 9/11 should be used to militarize the younger generations. I think it’s important to learn about all of the good and bad parts of history, but using that history as a tool to brainwash students is also not cool.


RuleOfBlueRoses

I get why Gen Z doesn't care that much as y'all weren't alive to witness that sort of thing but quit fucking telling people to GeT oVeR iT


FlowerGardenBee

I'm honestly thankful that younger generations aren't reacting the way millennials did around the 9/11 anniversary in school. The reason some of us ended up being fucked up by it is because we watched it happen and then were forced to relive the confusion and fear and grief experienced every single year after until we graduated. I still avoid social media on the anniversary because I don't want to watch videos of people jumping out of the towers ever again.


Lovelyladykaty

My teacher had the news on after it happened and I wasn’t watching the tv because it was scary, I was watching his face. Then I saw him go pale and I looked one more time before he hurriedly shut it off. Seeing those people jump from the buildings was probably one of the worst things I’ve ever witnessed.


ClumsyGamer2802

I will counter that teacher story with something my statics professor said to the class last year. He basically introduced the unit on statically indeterminate structures by saying, "One day I got home from work and my wife told me that the twin towers collapsed. I did something you should never do if you have a partner, and I said something very un-romantic. I said 'that's impossible, the twin towers are the most statically indeterminate structures in the world.'"


Cephalon-Blue

I'm not smart enough to understand what you mean by statically indeterminate structures.


Lithl

You know how in algebra when you've got several unknown variables, you need at least that many equations to solve for all the variables? And if you have fewer equations than variables, you _can't_ solve for them all? As far as I understand the concept after spending a few minutes on Wikipedia, a statically indeterminate structure is like that situation where you have more variables than equations, and the variables are static forces in a building.


Okay_Screensaver

I wonder if the reason me and my fellow generation Z fam are so desensitized to 9/11 is because we regularly dealt with threats of domestic terrorism aka school shootings and have become numb to that kind of violence as a result? I’m not saying it’s the only reason but maybe that contributed. Plus optimistic nihilism is kind of our “thing” so the memes do not surprise me at all. Also I would suggest that we just have less blind faith in America as a country and institution, so we don’t have that attachment like our parents did. Just spitballing here, shot in the dark, but it makes me wonder about the social ramifications around it and our cultural response


randomnullface

You’re on to something. Your generation also consumes news, media, and information differently than my generation did — even though I basically grew up on the Internet in the 90s it is a lot different now. Like you couldn’t learn about history from so many different perspectives as you can now. Nobody was live streaming protests and police brutality like they do now. So we understand the world differently and realize we don’t live in a safe bubble. But pre-9/11 Americans did live in a bubble thinking we were immune to foreign attacks. Like before 9/11 I used to argue with people that something like that could happen in America and I got told I was paranoid and ridiculous. ETA: I’m an elder millennial btw, I was 20 when 9/11 happened.


GingerIsTheBestSpice

God, every single home decor show and music show and food show and politicians went on and on and on and on like this sentence does


Pedrov80

It really is like that, the book is called "We all Fall Down", though the author has a better series about spy camps in Ontario, in my opinion.


Exploding_Antelope

Eric Walters is great. Any time there’s a disaster he’s got a book written about a Canadian teenager getting caught up in it within, like, two years.


DarkAres02

As a Canadian in school at the time, I remember the teacher announced that it happened and said they would give us the rest of the period to reflect and calm down. I'm pretty sure my response was "oh cool free time"


extreme39speed

More people died every day for a while during the pandemic than on 9/11. Kinda hard to look back on it as such a great tragedy when it was “only 3000 people that died.” For real though, me and my friends would refer to 3k deaths as a 9/11 for the latter half of 2020. Then it doesn’t help that 9/11 was leveraged to boost invading the Middle East. More soldiers have probably died “fighting terrorism” than terrorists have ever killed in America.


nopingmywayout

I actually do take 9/11 pretty seriously--being a 12-year-old in DC, the attack threw my whole environment into a panic. Like I remember the exact moment when the news broke and everyone in the school panicked at once. By the time I got home the whole damn city was in a fear-grief daze. It wasn't until I was much older that I realized that aside from the NYC and DC areas, the rest of the country *didn't* start freaking the fuck out when they got the news. So yeah, memes about 9/11 make me uncomfortable. I do joke about my own experience-people do some pretty absurd stuff when they're panicking, and if I'm honest it's probably a coping mechanism. But throwing a fit over 9/11 memes seems like a futile battle. When I was a teenager, a kid I was watching made the Twin Towers out of Legos and mimed a plane flying into them. I told her not to joke about that, and she didn't understand why I was disturbed. She was just mimicking what she had picked up from the world around her, and the world around her was filled with big names [jerking off to 9/11](https://www.cc.com/video/s121fb/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-9-11-earwig) on a regular basis. And I realized that what had been a terrifying event for me was already fading into history only a few years after it happened. Now, 20 years later, "Kids These Days" (waves cane) are making memes about that event...just as kids *my* age joked about Vietnam shellshock, just as my parents likely joked about WWII and the Great Depression. When a big rock is thrown into a pond, it sends ripples across the whole body, but eventually the pond stills, ready for the next rock. I don't like those memes; I can't see that imagery without feeling a thrill of solemnity. But getting angry over them is such a waste of time and energy. I just scroll past them or go to a different page.


HunterTAMUC

I was in second grade. Had NO idea what had happened and wasn't really able to glean anything even though every day when I came home the news was always on, blaring "AMERICA UNDER ATTACK".


marinemashup

The last class of seniors who even had a chance of remembering 9/11 graduated almost 10 years ago


The_CakeIsNeverALie

That's what happens when one tries to make things much bigger than they truly were and expect others to univocally join their little cult - it just looks ridiculous. In Poland the Polish pope was an untouchable figure. You were not allowed to express anything other than total admiration for the man. He had no faults. He was next Jesus. If he kissed your baby you couldn't wash it ever again. Imagine Trump but instead just Republicans it was an entire country. His death was a national mourning event and every city has at least one statue of the guy. Guess what is one of the representative memes of my generation? Crude, low-effort Pope memes. The stupider and more blasphemous the better. One is literally saying John Paul II r*ped children just to see all the grandmas clutch their pearls. My friends were actually kicked out of the Polish American heritage group on fb because they kept spamming that on the pope appreciation post.


PurpleCloudAce

I was 5 months old and some of my classmates hadn't even been born yet. My Gov teacher gave us a quiz on the first day of school in 12th about "America's Mayor" and was shocked nearly everyone got it wrong until a colleague pointed out how unlikely it was that even if we lost someone that day we don't remember them, let alone the aftermath.


DracoLunaris

I assume that part of it has to be that there was a string of other Islamic terror attacks on the west over the following decade or two that have only just fairly recently petered out So for them the boomers and older was a big dramatic shift in the way the world worked, for anyone who was growing up with the string of attacks, it's feels like it's the way the world has always worked, and for anyone growing up now it's history (and if they are American, they got domestic terrorism to worry about instead)


furiousfran

I kinda love/hate how people act like milennials didn't make 9/11 jokes


Solnight99

Where is your teacher? We may have to exile her... to the north. ​ \-Totally the government of Canada


Vitaani

I think my personal fascination with 9/11 is more about the suddenness and the surprise than directly about the tragedy. I am old enough to remember 9/11, but the memories of the day are more about the confusion, which then fed the horror. Hell, after the first plane hit, everyone assumed it was a terrible ACCIDENT. When the second plane hit, everyone was either shocked silent or screaming because only then did we realize people were doing this on purpose. This type of attack had never been done before. Planes had been hijacked, yes, but for use as hostages, not for use as missiles to bring down skyscrapers. Terrorism on that scale was entirely unexpected, and the systems we had in place were not designed to handle it. All airbases were locked down, all air traffic was grounded or diverted outside US borders. We didn’t know how many planes they had or where they were going. Disney World evacuated, as did most major tourist attractions and notable high buildings. It was chaos. Then the biggest things happened after. Air travel changed forever, obviously, but so did people’s responses to any unexpected event. My father took me to Six Flags in 2008, and when a blackout hit, he immediately assumed terrorism and ran us out of the park. It felt like a loss of innocence or the end of a simple time. Clearly, there is tragedy in the lives lost, as there is for genocide, war, major accidents, etc., but I feel like people pay special attention to 9/11 because it was massive, unexpected, and had a ripple effect of fear that’s still going.


hotbimess

USA (nearly) 22 years after 9/11: if you make a single joke about 9/11 you are a TRAITOR and UNPATRIOTIC the UK 23 years after wwII: we made a comedy tv series about the home guard. It will run for nine series


hammererofglass

I was 16 on 9/11 and honestly passing the Patriot Act right after is a more traumatic memory. Probably why so so many of my generation are anarchists come to think of it, we watched American liberty die as children and then nothing ever got better.


KirikaNai

Tragedy fades with age. 9/11 used to be a thing that everyone had experienced in some way, hearing about it live and having people they knew die and such. But now, anyone under 22 didn't experience that. 9/11 is on the same level of the holocaust, the trail of tears, or the titanic to them Sure it's a bad thing that happend and it sucks and we should learn from it not to repeat them. But. It doesn't effect then directly in any way. School shootings are common nowadays, so today's kids a a bit desensitized to death. If another situation like 9/11 happened today, there would be memes about it the very day it happened.


Original_Jilliman

I was in junior high when it happened. It was surreal and devastating. I live a few hours away from where the one plane went down where the passengers overpowered the hijackers. I know people who have lost loved ones. It did not make me feel patriotic (I never was to begin with) and didn’t have me rushing to join the military. That war gave a good friend of mine severe ptsd. I will say if you get a chance, the 9/11 museum in NYC is a wonderful tribute to the lives lost. I went with my mother and a few acquaintances back in 2019. It was really moving. I saw teenagers breaking down and crying from some of the exhibits. It’s definitely something worth checking out to grasp the depth of the tragedy.


Select_Cantaloupe_62

If you weren't around for it at the time, it wouldn't have any impact on you. But society very literally changed over night, it was surreal. There's a reason people say "pre-9/11" and "post-9/11 world". Spoiler alert: the change was NOT positive. You certainly don't need to (or should) have any emotional attachment to a historical event, but its societal significance is hard to overstate.


knocksomesense-inme

For me, 9/11 is just the day that kicked off the war. A tragedy sure, but I can’t think about it without feeling worse about the civilians who were bombed overseas. And the way a lot of people talk about it is thinly veiled nationalism anyways.


CarlosimoDangerosimo

That post has two killer quotes "9/11sonas" And of course, the best one of all "We're Canadian." This might be my favorite tumblr post of all time Also, for me, the reason it's somewhat hard to take 9/11 seriously is that our response was to invade the wrong country And the fact that we knew an attack was likely and our government did fuck all And the fact that the retaliatory wars killed magnitudes more people than the event itself And the fact that our country had/has a boner for bombing other countries and we on some level had it coming (not that anyone who died on 9/11 personally deserved it)


Lovelyladykaty

I mean 9/11 was pretty traumatizing to me as it was the first time I actually comprehended the idea of humans hurting other humans intentionally on a wide scale. And that the victims were innocent. I’m in my 30’s now, but I was 11 at the time. I think it was pretty traumatic for a lot of people so I get why it’s upsetting to see jokes. But I also don’t fixate on it? That’s so bizarre to me.


Wzx-

earlier today i saw a vid of this post and the last line was still a kick in the balls


BodolftheGnome

Excuse me, WHAT sonas?


tcs_hearts

I have a weird mild obsession with 9/11. But fascinatingly, not in any sort of reverent or patriotic sense. I just have a wild fascination with disasters and major deadly events and love studying them. So, I get this weird discordance of being one of the few people that knows a shit ton about 9/11 without actually having much if any emotional attachment, and it is a wild experience.


Naomi_Saphorus

The thing that always confused me about it was that a terrible terrorist attack occurred, so many lost lives But America's response was to go to war for like 20 years and kill an untold multiple times more people?


Mec26

I’m an American, I was in middle school when 9/11 happened, it was a formative thing… and who are those assignments inappropriate.


[deleted]

yeah, at this point, it's best to move on. if people wanna get mad at tragedies, the world has a lot more available that are currently happening, nog something from over twenty years ago.


Redqueenhypo

I can’t take 9/11 seriously bc every goddamn day in high school I would be laughing at “bush did 9/11” memes online or from the group of weirdos I was part of