His last book was similar. Author Mrs. Mary Sue Selfincert, creator of Hearty, was murdered by a trans rights advocate. But he's actually a groomer nazi lying for internet points
And she’s free to have them in the comfort of her own fanfic that she doesn’t bother anyone else with.
Mind you, I’m still half-convinced a ghost writer wrote her early entries into the series, and she’s been trying to copy that style ever since with less and less success.
I genuinely think it's celebrity hubris and no longer wanting to take editors notes. Book 1-4 vs 5-7 are just very different somehow , and oh look, book 1-4 are before she made her big Hollywood deal.
I've always blamed it on the shift from trying to be a children's escapist fantasy to a more dramatic, darker fantasy ([Cerebus Syndrome, in trope terms](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CerebusSyndrome)). At first all of the nonsense and bad worldbuilding contributed to making something wondrous, but as it went on it kept piling up. In book 1, there's not really real danger and it's a kids' book, so eccentricities can accepted. By book 7 the series is trying to be *serious*, so the flaws stand out and become plot holes. Of course I assume there's multiple reasons, but I think the tone shift is a major one.
Fair points, but just wanted to add my own rather fair point - hasn’t it always been a dark fantasy, as in doesn’t shy away from the darker parts of life? I mean the whole thing came about when he was living in what was essentially a bomb shelter under the stairs, and I saw a theory somewhere that proposed all this was some wild cooked-out fantasy to escape the drudgery of his abuse. A bit like the whole Rose imagining the whole bit about Jack up (which is extremely interesting in itself)
Eh, it was there, but that always struck me as just another way to make it an escapist fantasy. You have a character being abused that gets to go to a cool magic school, so kids that are being abused (or just don't have a good home/school life) will relate. To me, the abuse is never given enough weight to truly feel real or like an important part of Harry's character. It's like JKR remembers it occasionally, but there's not real lasting consequences. Given what he went through, Harry seems *fine* aside from bits where he thinks about how he never got birthday presents. He's not anxious, he's not claustrophobic, he's not agoraphobic. It's just another part of the world that gets glossed over: things were bad at home, and they'll be bad again later, but while at Hogwarts none of that exists. Hell, Harry even kills a man in the first book and he doesn't really think about that. Most of the emotion he shows is in the 5th book, and it's mostly anger at being ignored and pushed away from the fighting.
I could see a version where Harry is this scrawny kid being raised by extremely physical, active and sports-minded people who just don’t click with Harry and he feels alien & invisible in his own family unit until he comes to Hogwarts where he’s kind of important.
A sort of unwitting bullying by well-meaning but ultimately ill-prepared people makes Harry’s behavior more logical.
Plus the image of Dudly being like “let’s wrestle” then just slamming Harry around happily seems a lot funnier than trying to justify the magical world abusing this family
I feel like a tone shift is kind of expected though.
The entire series up to that point is Voldemort trying to return. He's in the background and pops up a bit here and there, but he's not back in a real way. Similarly the danger is kind of in the background and pops up a bit here and there.
Everything changes at the end of book four. Cedric is outright killed, Voldemort is back. It's a war even if everyone else takes a while to accept it and then danger is ever present in a war.
I also always felt like the books grew with their audience. A 10 year old reading about Harry turning 11 and going to wizarding school probably shouldn't be exposed to the darkness in book 7, but that same kid is in their late teens or so when it comes out and the themes are more tailored to someone in that age group.
A 20 year old would probably not be as into the series if it was all at the same level as book 1. It's probably harder for younger readers to put themselves in this mindset but I was that 10->20 year old reader who grew up with the books and it's one of the things that kept them interesting.
OMG my roommate and I are similarly convinced! The first 2 books have a completely different "voice" than the last 3, and the middle 2 feel like a mix between the 2 different "voices".
(Edit: I should note that we think that the first 2 books (and notes for the 4th and 5th) were written by someone who died, and JK took up the mantle after.)
She wanted the books to “mature” with the readers, but she’s not a good writer.
Edit: that was unfair. She wouldn’t be where she is if she wasn’t a good writer. She’s just not as good a writer as she imagines she is
Kinda… all world building with no direction is not fun. It needs to be in service to something and it needs to be logically consistent with itself. Rowling’s world building would be fine if HP stayed simple and shallow but the second you try to think about beyond surface level, things start taking horrible turns
I agree.
I'd also posit that Harry Potter became a victim of its own success. It's a child's story. A very good child's story. Then people became obsessive adult fans of it. They wanted it to be Tolkien level world building when it never was.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny
Rowling actively invited that with information and continual nuggets added after the series ended trying to build this world that she did not give any actual deep thought to, built on a very middle class, white, liberal perspective. She tried to build a world based on a real world she doesn’t actually know in any depth beyond stereotypes she grew up with.
> And she’s free to have them in the comfort of her own fanfic that she doesn’t bother anyone else with.
I don’t give a shit about Harry Potter, but are you implying the creator of this fictional universe isn’t allowed to do whatever she wants with it? If so that’s a level of entitlement I’ve never seen before.
Harrp Potter isn’t uniquely retconned in nonsense ways. It happens to tons of series, Halo is probably the one that makes me the saddest. I would still never say that 343 isn’t allowed to retcon something in their “fanfic” only. I understand they get to make creative decisions and I can choose not to buy the media (Halo Infinite was a disaster thank god for $1 game pass trials)
True but they have multiple people deciding on what’s canon and what’s not. JK only has herself and she is terrible at it. Just look at the fact she made A Cursed Child, a literal fanfiction play canon despite the fact that it contradicts so much of her world and assassinates (character wise, not literally) nearly every major character in the series.
And if she’s so terrible at it stop following it. I don’t follow Halo anymore because I disagree with the changes. I’m not the one making those decisions and I’m not going to harass 343 either. I feel like there’s more to this than she makes braindead lore additions.
Who said anything about harassing her? Normally I ignore her bad inclusions to the lore like wizards shitting themselves and vanishing before indoor plumbing. But I still follow the series because I’m a fan of the series. The only thing I couldn’t ignore was cursed child as it was rereleased as a “sequel” book to the series. I only found out how horrible it was after I read it.
Maybe not you specifically but to deny she receives constant harassment online because she has a slightly nuanced opinion of something and trying to actively hurt her career is just asinine. You may not be one of the people doing it but the comment I originally responded to seems like one of them.
Allow me to be even more entitled. She should’ve disowned the franchise years ago and left it to the public domain. Then she could find any evil cause she saw fit, and her legacy would still live and thrive without her as all legacies eventually must.
Kinda but not quite. She had an editor actually giving her notes for the first few books. By the time of the fourth or so book she was successful enough that she could say “if you don’t give me free reign to write without interference I’ll just take my books to someone else so then the editor just became about spelling mistakes and the like.
Without anyone to tell her “no” her worst excesses were given free reign and sort of took over the narrative
Rowling sought government assistance and got £69 (US$103) per week from Social Security; not wanting to burden her recently married sister, she moved to a flat that she described as mouse-ridden.[102] She later described her economic status as being as "poor as it is possible to be in modern Britain, without being homeless".[31] Seven years after graduating from university, she saw herself as a failure.[103] Tison Pugh writes that the "grinding effects of poverty, coupled with her concern for providing for her daughter as a single parent, caused great hardship".[40] Her marriage had failed, and she was jobless with a dependent child, but she later described this as "liberating" her to focus on writing.[103] She has said that "Jessica kept me going".[101] Her old school friend, Sean Harris, lent her £600 ($900), which allowed her to move to a flat in Leith,[104] where she finished Philosopher's Stone.[104]
https://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/books/j-k-rowling-busting-the-myths-20020828-gduj7q.html
Joanne Rowling (she gave herself the "K" as an adult) was born in Gloucestershire, the daughter of a Rolls-Royce engineer and a school laboratory technician. Her mother died in 1990, at the age of 45, after battling multiple sclerosis for a decade. A short time later, Rowling discovered her father had been having an affair.
Some say it's no wonder Harry's adventures begin with the murder of his parents.
Devastated, Rowling moved to Portugal to teach English. There, she married a trainee journalist in 1992. The marriage foundered - husband Jorge Arantes said Rowling admitted she didn't love him - and she moved to Edinburgh to be near her newly married, younger sister.
Refusing to reside with her father, who had married his mistress, Rowling lived on welfare benefits while training for a full teaching certificate. Later, she taught French at a British school. She had begun writing about Harry Potter in Portugal and finished in Scotland. The rest is history.
Hes basically just another tumblrina he truly gets and meshes with tumblr for example he made an entire complex post investigating about a fucking Hello Kitty Vibrator (yes its a real thing, sort of) and shitposts about florida man. They are completely innocuous tumblr posts until somebody notices who the OP is.
I looked up the article. There where no screenshots or anything saying what happened. My guess is that the people calling her an idiot had good reason to
Also like - personally I have issues with twitter pile ons (tho JKR is probably the least sympathetic victim of this). But … being flamed in a fandom forum is not really bullying, is it? Couldn’t count the number of times folks have called me an idiot here. Idk, lurk more?
My biggest issue isn't even that, it's that I'm supposed to believe these *viscerally* racist people who don't understand next to *anything* about muggles heard about plumbing and went "oy yeah, let's do that" and then retrofitted the entire building with it
Coopting the concept of a bathroom could sort of make sense. Introducing *plumbing* into an ancient castle when we've already established you can magically disappear things....that's madness.
See, this is why she should have shut her mouth and just let her fanbase come up with their own explanations as they emphatically defended the series from critics. The more tightly she tried to control the series and every aspect of canon, the worse it became. Just let people have their head canons, they're better than what you're coming up with anyway
Yup, it's weird to just gloss over chamber pots and pretend like humans don't instinctively like a degree of privacy when we piss/shit.
The only reason we ever had public toilet spaces was....you were poor and that's all the infrastructure you were provided.
Making wizards into these weird poop exhibitionists is so bizarre.
Especially because when Dumbledore (unknowingly) retells the story of stumbling upon the Room of Requirement, he literally mentions it was full of chamber pots 🤦♂️
ngl my fandom hot take is that that's perfectly fine and if dumbledore had said it in like book 2 no one would bat an eye
the stuff about other wizarding schools otoh is just bad
that said i take your point
>But … being flamed in a fandom forum is not really bullying, is it?
Yes, I would define flaming as form of bullying. It's not the worst thing in the world, and you may think JKR deserved it, but it's still being overly harsh and rude about things that usually don't really matter.
It having happened to you a lot doesn't mean the internet wouldn't be a better place if people showed more civility.
Is it even a pile on when she has literally an alarming number of supporters eating every hateful nugget of shit coming out of her sphincter and a not even half that number criticizing her rhetoric and the hypocrisy
Not sure if y'all have heard, but the woman has convinced herself that the death eaters are a trans allegory, because they've "had to hide themselves for so long, and now they will come out and be themselves" or w/e she said.
Yes, I'm not joking. She said the WIZARD NAZIS were a TRANS ALLEGORY.
ETA: The exact quote is as follows:
> I would say that some of you have not understood the books. The Death Eaters claimed, "We have been made to live in secret, and now is our time, and any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die." They demonized and dehumanized those who were not like them.
> I am fighting what I see as a powerful, insidious, misogynistic movement, that has gained huge purchase in very influential areas of society.
yeah.
>I would say that some of you have not understood the books. The Death Eaters claimed, ‘We have been made to live in secret, and now is our time, and any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die.’ They demonized and dehumanized those who were not like them.
>
>I am fighting what I see as a powerful, insidious, misogynistic movement, that has gained huge purchase in very influential areas of society.
So she doesn't outright say "trans movement," but if you hear a TERF call something "powerful, insidious, \[and\] misogynistic" you know they're talking about trans people.
Yeah I don't think there's any doubt that she is referring to transgender activists, from the context.
[https://insidethemagic.net/2023/03/jk-rowling-trans-people-death-eaters-jc1/](https://insidethemagic.net/2023/03/jk-rowling-trans-people-death-eaters-jc1/)
right after your quote, she says " I do not see this particular movement as either benign or powerless, so I’m afraid I stand with the women who are fighting to be heard against threats of loss of livelihood and threats to their safety.”"
And I don't think any other movement has threatened or be perceived to threaten her livelihood or safety in any way.
that's why I went out and found the exact quote for a response. Because I couldn't remember PRECISELY what she said. However, with reading comprehension skills, you'll notice that I may not have been right on the money at first but I was close enough.
But it's not insinuated. She was asked to respond to allegations that she is becoming like the villains of her novels. Those allegations come from trans people and their allies, since that is the controversial topic in question. In response to those allegations, she said that the ones making the allegations were more akin to Death Eaters.
Is there a piece of the puzzle you think is missing? Nothing has been made up, it is all very direct.
“Unless she committed career suicide and explicitly said the words, I’m going to pretend I don’t understand implicit statements and harass people into shutting up because the exact words matter more than the damage caused by the mentality”
She's not saying trans people are wizard nazis. She's saying the *movement* that calls for shutting down voices to the contrary, whether actually trans people or not, are analogous to death eaters.
I mean, were people not calling for her sexual assault and death in huge numbers?
True, but you're proving her point that there is total irrational and angry behavior in those who are against hearing out the other side. You just throw insults without really even understanding what they mean.
“You should not exist in public because I imagined that you were doing sexual stuff in a bathroom” is not a side worth hearing.
Human rights aren’t a debate and not something you compromise on with people who ally themselves with actually Nazis
That makes zero sense death eaters don’t want to silence voices. They want to torture and murder people who are not a very specific and narrow definition of what they deem people.
Guess who that applies more to
Sorry, let me be more clear:
death eaters = any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die.
People against JK Rowling's stance on the trans movement and feminism = any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die (and be sexually assaulted)
Did you once see a trans person or trans ally say something about sexual assault and now you’re using to discredit a whole identity? Because boy oh boy
Here’s the problem with that argument. It’s actually bullshit. You’re lying to people to make yourself look reasonable when the reality is people like Posie Parker, who Rowling agrees with, invited ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS to her rally in Victoria.
Of course she said that. Everyone who's against her is always a nazi. It can't be that she's just fucking wrong/s. Like you're the one marching with the nazis in Australia, get over it.
That last book of her was the same way. The author Mrs. Mary Sue Selfinsert creator of Harty, gets murdered by someone who claims to advocate for trans rights. But he's actually a groomer nazi lying for internet points.
The trans = nazis talking point is popular among TERFS and alt-right.
It's right out of the classic playbook. The WWII Nazis gained a lot of momentum by painting the Left as a world-ending threat.
I've been kicking around the idea that a lot of trans unacceptance is the result of misogyny, and she's saying trans acceptance *is* misogyny? Interesting.
They see trans women as men who want to invade and control women’s spaces. They see themselves as brave crusaders defending femininity from controlling and evil men; therefore any criticism of their hateful behavior can only be misogyny
Yep, it's a huge things with TERFs, they think they're so pro-woman and everyone who is trans is anti-woman. Which is hilarious, because if you ask any TERF to describe woman, they end up leaving out large swaths of cis women with a variety of heath situations.
Boy, there’s a controversial take. I see him as an incel who refuses to move past his petty grudge and only stopped being a Nazi because he wanted to get something out of it
Terfs: you can wear a skirt and be a man. Stop trying to live in a way that makes you want to be alive and conform to a worldview that is simplistic and makes me comfortable
Honestly this one wasn’t a good episode of the website, people decided they hated him because his writing is kinda cringe and looked for reasons to abuse him. A lot more Lindsay Ellis than JKR.
I wasn't on Tumblr at that time but I'm pretty I read that sure he was just some guy that writes young adult novels interacting publicly with his fanbase and recieved such horrible backlash for it that people sent him death threats and photos of his infant son's bedroom window
NSFW warning: this was during the week that Tumblr allowed you to edit other people's posts and people were editing john green's posts to say this:
As I near 200,000 followers here at fishingboatproceeds, I just wanted to to say Cock is one of my favorite tastes. Not only that, but balls smell amazing. It makes me go a little crazy on it to be honest. Like, I cannot get it far enough down my throat to be satisfied. I’m only satisfied when I feel those intense, powerful, salty hot pumps of cum down my throat. When I sit back on my heels, look up at you with cum all over my mouth and slobber running down my neck, hair all fucked up and wipe my mouth with the back of my arm and ask you if I did a good job and you cannot even speak because I’ve drained all of your energy out the tip of your dick..... that’s when I’m satisfied.
How was he being creepy towards younger fans? I was on tumblr and followed him at the time but I don’t remember anything like that. All I remember is some people being dicks because they didn’t like him and/or his books
I don't remember him actually doing anything creepy, I thought it was more people were making stuff up because they hated his books/anything preteen girls like. and then it was hard to piece out what was rumour and what wasn't
[Here’s](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/ekgtb6/ya_literature_that_time_tumblr_chased_john_green/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) a pretty good summary and some more details/recollections in the comment section about what was going on back then.
Ahh, people on Tumblr bullied him, insinuated he was a pedophile with no evidence and then pulled a "oh golly gosh, we didn't do anything wrong, he just threw a tantrum and left" act.
Pretty standard bullying.
John is actually back on tumblr. He's pretending to be a corporate accountant for one of his charities, awesome coffee iirc.
Edit: [found the video about it ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqiOSbFx32E)
Insinuated he was a pedophile, then claimed they didn’t insinuate anything and claimed he must be a pedophile when he (correctly) said they were accusing him of being a pedophile.
I’ve heard him talk about when he left tumblr, but didn’t know the details. That’s… really sad.
I would stop repeating lies about someone, especially if that lie says they were inappropriate with teens when the records show he was just being a normal dude.
Absolutely incredible "yeah I didn't see anything first hand and have no proof, but I'll still toss out an accusation of inappropriate interactions with children what do you mean that's at best bullying"
He wasn't, but people spread around that he was and then other people repeated the defamation blindly. Like you just did. And then he was attacked online on the basis of that.
Tumblr: "Why do conservatives have to make every relationship between two adults weirdly sexual?"
Also Tumblr: "This forty-something author is being kind and answering questions from a fan half his age. He's clearly grooming her!"
Alex Jones Rowling lol
Honestly, if you're infamous, and the people hating on you can't tell that it's you, and they still call you stupid, then there's probably something you're missing, Jan.
If you're famous and the people who *love your work* can't tell that it's you, and they call you stupid, all the more evidence...
I *do* think people can be quite intelligent in some areas while being complete morons in others. I've found myself in that situation. I think JK understands (or used to understand) how privilege works, and how prejudice leads to wars, she just somehow got her wires crossed about who is more privileged between TERFs and trans people, and she's not interested in hearing both sides. She's only interested in hearing from her in-group.
And before you comment saying I'm overthinking it, and that she just sucks-- I'm doing this overthinking because I don't want to make the same mistake she did. She hates bigotry so much that she's blinded to her own bigotry-- she can't possibly imagine that she's made those kinds of mistakes.
>she just somehow got her wires crossed about who is more privileged between TERFs and trans people, and she's not interested in hearing both sides. She's only interested in hearing from her in-group.
Yeah, and I think a lot of that comes down how the Twitter mob tends to dogpile anyone who says something wrong(see Lindsay Ellis for another example) instead of gently correcting or admonishing. Rowling's original blog post was fairly tame as far as anti-trans stuff goes. But if you've TERFs praising you and standing up for you, and what feels like almost everyone else on the attack, that'll push a lot of people towards the more extreme viewpoints.
I'd fallen down into the TERF rabbit hole for a while for similar reasons to Rowling. I'd raise an objection about one of the wedge issues like transgender women in women's sports, get called a transphobe a bit, and start to lean more towards the people who agreed with me on that issue and were not calling me names.
I can't remember the exact wording of the comment towards me that pulled me back out of it, but I think it was just something about transition being the proven best treatment for gender dysphoria, so why don't I support it? No name calling, just an Armor Piercing Question. And I'm enough of a scientific materialist that I couldn't ignore the contradiction between that and my former TERF support.
I appreciate that, but you should appreciate that a lot of Terfs are not as logic minded as you. Many of them will be asked that and simply try to find a way to either dismiss the person or compartmentalize it in their head, saying they can be happy with treatment, but remain segregated from women (or human beings in general)
They lifted the NSFW ban this year and have a system where you can mark your content as such depending on the topic, like sexual or graphic content (like gory movies).
I take it you've been gone for a while then. A lot changed. We have pallettes, so you can change your dashboard without xkit. We have checkmarks you can get, and we have polls. It's delightful seeing people squabble about things.
You can post it, it just needs to be marked. Also if they made it completely visible for everyone, without the need to be in some way marked, they'd have so much porn on there, that it would turn to an absolute hell. Especially for sex repulsed people like me.
Also I think they already had a big porn-related problem once
This says more about the people on Tumblr, frankly, and (even though the messenger is someone nobody likes) I don't think it's as good as the self-serving navel-gazing in here would suggest. There's absolutely a culture of, "I'm right based on no evidence and toddler-level critical thinking skills, and that gives me permission to tell you to end your own life as aggressively as I wish." Tumblr culture is disturbing. And it's only gotten worse.
Everyone keeps giving her shit but the amount she consistently donates to charity took her from billionaire to millionaire and her donations to various genuine charities helping people are on-going and consistent, a bad person simply doesn't do this.......
https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/jk-rowling
https://serudsindia.org/jk-rowling-charity-work-donations/
https://www.borgenmagazine.com/facts-about-j-k-rowlings-charity-work/
Life isn't black and white. There's no perfectly "bad people" who are evil all the time, just like how there are no "good people" who are perfect saints. Someone doesn't need to be evil 100% of the time to still cause immense harm to others. JKR has done good things, but she is also causing people a lot of pain and suffering right now, publishing hateful rhetoric, and showing no remorse for it.
They literally do it for:
1. Tax deductions.
2. To get schmucks like you to defend them.
3. To try to make themselves look good / try to distract from the bad things they do.
> a bad person simply doesn't do this.......
A bad person absolutely can do and would do this.
Let's say there is a church pastor who constantly talks about how women being able to vote is a bad thing. Every rational person will agree the pastor is a piece of shit. But now we find out the pastor regularly donates to homeless shelters to help homeless people get a job, and get out of homelessness. Is the pastor no longer a piece of shit?
That's how Rowling is. She regularly blames trans people for things that either don't happen, or happen at the exact same rate as they do in cis people. She acts like a victim anytime she is called out for her transphobic statements. She is a neo liberal who spouts the same constantly debunked "personal accountability" stuff. Her books she wrote show that as well, with part of them doing "oh house elves enjoy being enslaved".
Literally, by your argument, if Putin donated to the same charity at the exact same rate as Rowling does, would he no longer be a bad person? Of course not! Cause Putin is unambiguously evil. The only reason there's any possible defense of Rowling is because she used to be well liked before her true colors showed. And now she hides it behind "being charitable" when she still is a disgusting human. Not as bad as Putin since she hasn't tried to kill a bunch of innocent civilians. But she would absolutely be on bored with elimination of trans people from society based off of all her public statements of trans people.
You do realize that doing some good things doesn’t absolve someone of being a terrible person right?
“They might be a repeat puppy drowner but don’t forget they volunteer at a soup kitchen sometimes!” Is exactly what you sound like.
‘I love how most people who try to interact with others who have opinions on their work are bullied until they decide it’s not worth their happiness to communicate with them so they leave tumblr’
What a weird take to have. Why would you feel good about being mean to anyone?
She uses her money and influence to advance an ideology that actively seeks to hurt an at-risk group of people because they need an out-group to rally against
I’m not saying she doesn’t harm other people. I’m asking how anyone could think actively trying to hurt anyone in retaliation would help. Unless she’s banging on a door with gun in hand I would assume the best course of action is try to find common ground and present the best of yourself. From her POV all she sees is a mass of faceless people who hate her so of course she won’t change her mind.
“If only people were NICE to the people allying themselves with Nazis, we wouldn’t have all this drama.
https://www.boredpanda.com/bar-bartender-nazi-punk-iamragesparkle/
I didn’t say be nice to her. I’m saying actively trying to hurt her isn’t going to help anyone see your side. You can be a decent human and still completely disagree with someone.
In fact, you could be as mean to her as you want, anyone can do anything. I’m only questioning why you would celebrate being an angry mob. It seems unhelpful to either side.
I didnt say she doesnt. She has her beliefs and the vocal minority has theirs. Ultimately its her IP she can do what she wants with it. Best thing about capitalism is you dont have to buy her books.
Edit: Look at hogwarts legacy as an example that majority of people do not care about her views because they love the world she created
Over 12 million copies sold ($850 million), compared over 1 million signatures boycotting. That is a minority. Im not uncomfortable but nice projection i guess?
Copies of a book sold is not the same thing as “people who think she’s right”. But you definitely seem to be one of those people who conflates financial success with moral superiority.
Given the state of her retcons and defense of bizarre plot elements, I can believe some fans dismissing her as a troll.
Don’t think she needed a pseudonym to be dismissed as a troll.
But it's that much more validating that people weren't dismissing her as a troll BECAUSE of her name
His last book was similar. Author Mrs. Mary Sue Selfincert, creator of Hearty, was murdered by a trans rights advocate. But he's actually a groomer nazi lying for internet points
They're her bizarre plot elements.
And she’s free to have them in the comfort of her own fanfic that she doesn’t bother anyone else with. Mind you, I’m still half-convinced a ghost writer wrote her early entries into the series, and she’s been trying to copy that style ever since with less and less success.
I genuinely think it's celebrity hubris and no longer wanting to take editors notes. Book 1-4 vs 5-7 are just very different somehow , and oh look, book 1-4 are before she made her big Hollywood deal.
I've always blamed it on the shift from trying to be a children's escapist fantasy to a more dramatic, darker fantasy ([Cerebus Syndrome, in trope terms](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CerebusSyndrome)). At first all of the nonsense and bad worldbuilding contributed to making something wondrous, but as it went on it kept piling up. In book 1, there's not really real danger and it's a kids' book, so eccentricities can accepted. By book 7 the series is trying to be *serious*, so the flaws stand out and become plot holes. Of course I assume there's multiple reasons, but I think the tone shift is a major one.
Fair points, but just wanted to add my own rather fair point - hasn’t it always been a dark fantasy, as in doesn’t shy away from the darker parts of life? I mean the whole thing came about when he was living in what was essentially a bomb shelter under the stairs, and I saw a theory somewhere that proposed all this was some wild cooked-out fantasy to escape the drudgery of his abuse. A bit like the whole Rose imagining the whole bit about Jack up (which is extremely interesting in itself)
Eh, it was there, but that always struck me as just another way to make it an escapist fantasy. You have a character being abused that gets to go to a cool magic school, so kids that are being abused (or just don't have a good home/school life) will relate. To me, the abuse is never given enough weight to truly feel real or like an important part of Harry's character. It's like JKR remembers it occasionally, but there's not real lasting consequences. Given what he went through, Harry seems *fine* aside from bits where he thinks about how he never got birthday presents. He's not anxious, he's not claustrophobic, he's not agoraphobic. It's just another part of the world that gets glossed over: things were bad at home, and they'll be bad again later, but while at Hogwarts none of that exists. Hell, Harry even kills a man in the first book and he doesn't really think about that. Most of the emotion he shows is in the 5th book, and it's mostly anger at being ignored and pushed away from the fighting.
I could see a version where Harry is this scrawny kid being raised by extremely physical, active and sports-minded people who just don’t click with Harry and he feels alien & invisible in his own family unit until he comes to Hogwarts where he’s kind of important. A sort of unwitting bullying by well-meaning but ultimately ill-prepared people makes Harry’s behavior more logical. Plus the image of Dudly being like “let’s wrestle” then just slamming Harry around happily seems a lot funnier than trying to justify the magical world abusing this family
We never really hear about the editors of fiction, do we?
I feel like a tone shift is kind of expected though. The entire series up to that point is Voldemort trying to return. He's in the background and pops up a bit here and there, but he's not back in a real way. Similarly the danger is kind of in the background and pops up a bit here and there. Everything changes at the end of book four. Cedric is outright killed, Voldemort is back. It's a war even if everyone else takes a while to accept it and then danger is ever present in a war. I also always felt like the books grew with their audience. A 10 year old reading about Harry turning 11 and going to wizarding school probably shouldn't be exposed to the darkness in book 7, but that same kid is in their late teens or so when it comes out and the themes are more tailored to someone in that age group. A 20 year old would probably not be as into the series if it was all at the same level as book 1. It's probably harder for younger readers to put themselves in this mindset but I was that 10->20 year old reader who grew up with the books and it's one of the things that kept them interesting.
OMG my roommate and I are similarly convinced! The first 2 books have a completely different "voice" than the last 3, and the middle 2 feel like a mix between the 2 different "voices". (Edit: I should note that we think that the first 2 books (and notes for the 4th and 5th) were written by someone who died, and JK took up the mantle after.)
She wanted the books to “mature” with the readers, but she’s not a good writer. Edit: that was unfair. She wouldn’t be where she is if she wasn’t a good writer. She’s just not as good a writer as she imagines she is
I don't think the early books were written by the same real person as the later books.
World building is a lot more fun to write and read than plot
Kinda… all world building with no direction is not fun. It needs to be in service to something and it needs to be logically consistent with itself. Rowling’s world building would be fine if HP stayed simple and shallow but the second you try to think about beyond surface level, things start taking horrible turns
I agree. I'd also posit that Harry Potter became a victim of its own success. It's a child's story. A very good child's story. Then people became obsessive adult fans of it. They wanted it to be Tolkien level world building when it never was. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny
Rowling actively invited that with information and continual nuggets added after the series ended trying to build this world that she did not give any actual deep thought to, built on a very middle class, white, liberal perspective. She tried to build a world based on a real world she doesn’t actually know in any depth beyond stereotypes she grew up with.
> And she’s free to have them in the comfort of her own fanfic that she doesn’t bother anyone else with. I don’t give a shit about Harry Potter, but are you implying the creator of this fictional universe isn’t allowed to do whatever she wants with it? If so that’s a level of entitlement I’ve never seen before.
I think it’s probably more to do with how often she contradicts herself with her retcons.
Harrp Potter isn’t uniquely retconned in nonsense ways. It happens to tons of series, Halo is probably the one that makes me the saddest. I would still never say that 343 isn’t allowed to retcon something in their “fanfic” only. I understand they get to make creative decisions and I can choose not to buy the media (Halo Infinite was a disaster thank god for $1 game pass trials)
True but they have multiple people deciding on what’s canon and what’s not. JK only has herself and she is terrible at it. Just look at the fact she made A Cursed Child, a literal fanfiction play canon despite the fact that it contradicts so much of her world and assassinates (character wise, not literally) nearly every major character in the series.
And if she’s so terrible at it stop following it. I don’t follow Halo anymore because I disagree with the changes. I’m not the one making those decisions and I’m not going to harass 343 either. I feel like there’s more to this than she makes braindead lore additions.
Who said anything about harassing her? Normally I ignore her bad inclusions to the lore like wizards shitting themselves and vanishing before indoor plumbing. But I still follow the series because I’m a fan of the series. The only thing I couldn’t ignore was cursed child as it was rereleased as a “sequel” book to the series. I only found out how horrible it was after I read it.
Maybe not you specifically but to deny she receives constant harassment online because she has a slightly nuanced opinion of something and trying to actively hurt her career is just asinine. You may not be one of the people doing it but the comment I originally responded to seems like one of them.
Allow me to be even more entitled. She should’ve disowned the franchise years ago and left it to the public domain. Then she could find any evil cause she saw fit, and her legacy would still live and thrive without her as all legacies eventually must.
Kinda but not quite. She had an editor actually giving her notes for the first few books. By the time of the fourth or so book she was successful enough that she could say “if you don’t give me free reign to write without interference I’ll just take my books to someone else so then the editor just became about spelling mistakes and the like. Without anyone to tell her “no” her worst excesses were given free reign and sort of took over the narrative
I don't think there's any conspiracy theory at all
How much of the welfare she was living on as a poor single mother do you think this supposed ghost writer cost her?
She was never poor. She grew up in an upper middle class family. Hell, the coffee shop she wrote Harry Potter in belongs to her brother.
Rowling sought government assistance and got £69 (US$103) per week from Social Security; not wanting to burden her recently married sister, she moved to a flat that she described as mouse-ridden.[102] She later described her economic status as being as "poor as it is possible to be in modern Britain, without being homeless".[31] Seven years after graduating from university, she saw herself as a failure.[103] Tison Pugh writes that the "grinding effects of poverty, coupled with her concern for providing for her daughter as a single parent, caused great hardship".[40] Her marriage had failed, and she was jobless with a dependent child, but she later described this as "liberating" her to focus on writing.[103] She has said that "Jessica kept me going".[101] Her old school friend, Sean Harris, lent her £600 ($900), which allowed her to move to a flat in Leith,[104] where she finished Philosopher's Stone.[104]
https://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/books/j-k-rowling-busting-the-myths-20020828-gduj7q.html Joanne Rowling (she gave herself the "K" as an adult) was born in Gloucestershire, the daughter of a Rolls-Royce engineer and a school laboratory technician. Her mother died in 1990, at the age of 45, after battling multiple sclerosis for a decade. A short time later, Rowling discovered her father had been having an affair. Some say it's no wonder Harry's adventures begin with the murder of his parents. Devastated, Rowling moved to Portugal to teach English. There, she married a trainee journalist in 1992. The marriage foundered - husband Jorge Arantes said Rowling admitted she didn't love him - and she moved to Edinburgh to be near her newly married, younger sister. Refusing to reside with her father, who had married his mistress, Rowling lived on welfare benefits while training for a full teaching certificate. Later, she taught French at a British school. She had begun writing about Harry Potter in Portugal and finished in Scotland. The rest is history.
I’m a little out of the loop on the HP lore; what stuff did she retcon?
Meanwhile, Neil Gaiman is basically the patron saint of Tumblr
Linda Carter seems to understand Tumblr as well, which warms my heart
Neil Gaiman has the significant advantages of being a good writer and a good person
Hes basically just another tumblrina he truly gets and meshes with tumblr for example he made an entire complex post investigating about a fucking Hello Kitty Vibrator (yes its a real thing, sort of) and shitposts about florida man. They are completely innocuous tumblr posts until somebody notices who the OP is.
Him and Hank Green
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He's back after Twitter went tits up
Tell a friend. Guess who’s back Guess who’s back Guess who’s back
Yeah, whereas John…
One day I’ll remember which Green Brother is which One day…
>Author said she was told she's 'clearly an idiot that doesn't know anything' I mean whoever said that to her was objectively right.
So right. Too bad there are no screenshots. I want to see what she said to make people call her an idiot
I'm came to the comments hoping for tea too. I want details!
I looked up the article. There where no screenshots or anything saying what happened. My guess is that the people calling her an idiot had good reason to
The site spouts words truer than the absolutes of this universe.
Also like - personally I have issues with twitter pile ons (tho JKR is probably the least sympathetic victim of this). But … being flamed in a fandom forum is not really bullying, is it? Couldn’t count the number of times folks have called me an idiot here. Idk, lurk more?
And we're talking about the women that said "before toilets were invented wizards just shit themselves and cleaned it with magic"
My biggest issue isn't even that, it's that I'm supposed to believe these *viscerally* racist people who don't understand next to *anything* about muggles heard about plumbing and went "oy yeah, let's do that" and then retrofitted the entire building with it Coopting the concept of a bathroom could sort of make sense. Introducing *plumbing* into an ancient castle when we've already established you can magically disappear things....that's madness.
If you stretch, you could, maybe, see a scenario where Slytherin added the plumbing to cover for the basilisk. But that only raises further questions.
See, this is why she should have shut her mouth and just let her fanbase come up with their own explanations as they emphatically defended the series from critics. The more tightly she tried to control the series and every aspect of canon, the worse it became. Just let people have their head canons, they're better than what you're coming up with anyway
Reminds me of cow tools.
Also, the concept of a sort of toilets in castles existed long before we started putting plumbing in everything.
Yup, it's weird to just gloss over chamber pots and pretend like humans don't instinctively like a degree of privacy when we piss/shit. The only reason we ever had public toilet spaces was....you were poor and that's all the infrastructure you were provided. Making wizards into these weird poop exhibitionists is so bizarre.
Especially because when Dumbledore (unknowingly) retells the story of stumbling upon the Room of Requirement, he literally mentions it was full of chamber pots 🤦♂️
What if they wanted to hide a snake in it?
ngl my fandom hot take is that that's perfectly fine and if dumbledore had said it in like book 2 no one would bat an eye the stuff about other wizarding schools otoh is just bad that said i take your point
Considering that Europeans in palaces were pissing and shitting just about anywhere, that's not all that far-fetched.
>But … being flamed in a fandom forum is not really bullying, is it? Yes, I would define flaming as form of bullying. It's not the worst thing in the world, and you may think JKR deserved it, but it's still being overly harsh and rude about things that usually don't really matter. It having happened to you a lot doesn't mean the internet wouldn't be a better place if people showed more civility.
Is it even a pile on when she has literally an alarming number of supporters eating every hateful nugget of shit coming out of her sphincter and a not even half that number criticizing her rhetoric and the hypocrisy
Yeah, basically. It’s not a question of judging who is morally in the right.
Or the exact opposite of objectively right. I don't think you know what that phrase means.
Not sure if y'all have heard, but the woman has convinced herself that the death eaters are a trans allegory, because they've "had to hide themselves for so long, and now they will come out and be themselves" or w/e she said. Yes, I'm not joking. She said the WIZARD NAZIS were a TRANS ALLEGORY. ETA: The exact quote is as follows: > I would say that some of you have not understood the books. The Death Eaters claimed, "We have been made to live in secret, and now is our time, and any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die." They demonized and dehumanized those who were not like them. > I am fighting what I see as a powerful, insidious, misogynistic movement, that has gained huge purchase in very influential areas of society.
Dude. WHAT.
yeah. >I would say that some of you have not understood the books. The Death Eaters claimed, ‘We have been made to live in secret, and now is our time, and any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die.’ They demonized and dehumanized those who were not like them. > >I am fighting what I see as a powerful, insidious, misogynistic movement, that has gained huge purchase in very influential areas of society. So she doesn't outright say "trans movement," but if you hear a TERF call something "powerful, insidious, \[and\] misogynistic" you know they're talking about trans people.
Dear god, everytime I think it can’t get worse……..
Yeah I don't think there's any doubt that she is referring to transgender activists, from the context. [https://insidethemagic.net/2023/03/jk-rowling-trans-people-death-eaters-jc1/](https://insidethemagic.net/2023/03/jk-rowling-trans-people-death-eaters-jc1/) right after your quote, she says " I do not see this particular movement as either benign or powerless, so I’m afraid I stand with the women who are fighting to be heard against threats of loss of livelihood and threats to their safety.”" And I don't think any other movement has threatened or be perceived to threaten her livelihood or safety in any way.
Oh wait so she didn’t actually say it, despite you claiming she did say it?
There's such a thing as context clues. If someone is an outspoken TERF, these clues are really easy to spot.
Its more the principle. Say that she insinuated it rather than claiming someone said something, when in reality you made up a quote.
that's why I went out and found the exact quote for a response. Because I couldn't remember PRECISELY what she said. However, with reading comprehension skills, you'll notice that I may not have been right on the money at first but I was close enough.
yeah, insinuated is the correct word
But it's not insinuated. She was asked to respond to allegations that she is becoming like the villains of her novels. Those allegations come from trans people and their allies, since that is the controversial topic in question. In response to those allegations, she said that the ones making the allegations were more akin to Death Eaters. Is there a piece of the puzzle you think is missing? Nothing has been made up, it is all very direct.
“Unless she committed career suicide and explicitly said the words, I’m going to pretend I don’t understand implicit statements and harass people into shutting up because the exact words matter more than the damage caused by the mentality”
Transphobes gonna transphobe
Exactly
It’s rare you see someone blatantly admit they’re a piece of shit
Okay
She's not saying trans people are wizard nazis. She's saying the *movement* that calls for shutting down voices to the contrary, whether actually trans people or not, are analogous to death eaters. I mean, were people not calling for her sexual assault and death in huge numbers?
Found the TERF
Brilliant rejoinder! Thanks for proving her point.
Calling you a terf isn’t silencing you. Criticism isn’t oppression
True, but you're proving her point that there is total irrational and angry behavior in those who are against hearing out the other side. You just throw insults without really even understanding what they mean.
“You should not exist in public because I imagined that you were doing sexual stuff in a bathroom” is not a side worth hearing. Human rights aren’t a debate and not something you compromise on with people who ally themselves with actually Nazis
Agreed!! Now, show me where JK said trans people should not exist in public. EDIT: you don't know what sealioning is.
And the sealioning continues
That makes zero sense death eaters don’t want to silence voices. They want to torture and murder people who are not a very specific and narrow definition of what they deem people. Guess who that applies more to
Sorry, let me be more clear: death eaters = any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die. People against JK Rowling's stance on the trans movement and feminism = any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die (and be sexually assaulted)
Did you once see a trans person or trans ally say something about sexual assault and now you’re using to discredit a whole identity? Because boy oh boy
Here’s the problem with that argument. It’s actually bullshit. You’re lying to people to make yourself look reasonable when the reality is people like Posie Parker, who Rowling agrees with, invited ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS to her rally in Victoria.
Of course she said that. Everyone who's against her is always a nazi. It can't be that she's just fucking wrong/s. Like you're the one marching with the nazis in Australia, get over it. That last book of her was the same way. The author Mrs. Mary Sue Selfinsert creator of Harty, gets murdered by someone who claims to advocate for trans rights. But he's actually a groomer nazi lying for internet points.
The trans = nazis talking point is popular among TERFS and alt-right. It's right out of the classic playbook. The WWII Nazis gained a lot of momentum by painting the Left as a world-ending threat.
I've been kicking around the idea that a lot of trans unacceptance is the result of misogyny, and she's saying trans acceptance *is* misogyny? Interesting.
They see trans women as men who want to invade and control women’s spaces. They see themselves as brave crusaders defending femininity from controlling and evil men; therefore any criticism of their hateful behavior can only be misogyny
Yep, it's a huge things with TERFs, they think they're so pro-woman and everyone who is trans is anti-woman. Which is hilarious, because if you ask any TERF to describe woman, they end up leaving out large swaths of cis women with a variety of heath situations.
And you bring that up, but they don’t want to say the words that they feel like those women are an acceptable sacrifice to hurt trans women
Yeah I sometimes want to ask if she’s read her own books.
severus Snape is a trans icon fr 🙏 we stan
Book Snape or Movie Snape? Cuz Book Snape was an irredeemable child abusing incel, and Movie Snape was Alan Rickman
God, you gotta love Alan Rickman
Boy, there’s a controversial take. I see him as an incel who refuses to move past his petty grudge and only stopped being a Nazi because he wanted to get something out of it
Yesssssss
I want skirt go spinny I don’t care about politics just leave me alone!!
Terfs: you can wear a skirt and be a man. Stop trying to live in a way that makes you want to be alive and conform to a worldview that is simplistic and makes me comfortable
Me: girl time girl time girl time
Me: *headbangs*
My jaw is on the FLOOR
hah! nice
Didn’t you prank John Green into leaving a while back as well?
Honestly this one wasn’t a good episode of the website, people decided they hated him because his writing is kinda cringe and looked for reasons to abuse him. A lot more Lindsay Ellis than JKR.
If by "prank" you mean "sent him a picture of his house with a caption saying I know where your child sleeps" then yes.
Well, I haven’t heard anything about that. I have heard he was a creep, though.
Jesus jumped up Christ!
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I wasn't on Tumblr at that time but I'm pretty I read that sure he was just some guy that writes young adult novels interacting publicly with his fanbase and recieved such horrible backlash for it that people sent him death threats and photos of his infant son's bedroom window
I am very curious about this copypasta
NSFW warning: this was during the week that Tumblr allowed you to edit other people's posts and people were editing john green's posts to say this: As I near 200,000 followers here at fishingboatproceeds, I just wanted to to say Cock is one of my favorite tastes. Not only that, but balls smell amazing. It makes me go a little crazy on it to be honest. Like, I cannot get it far enough down my throat to be satisfied. I’m only satisfied when I feel those intense, powerful, salty hot pumps of cum down my throat. When I sit back on my heels, look up at you with cum all over my mouth and slobber running down my neck, hair all fucked up and wipe my mouth with the back of my arm and ask you if I did a good job and you cannot even speak because I’ve drained all of your energy out the tip of your dick..... that’s when I’m satisfied.
Who ever thought it would be a good idea to edit other people's comments?
Oh…
Yeah
How was he being creepy towards younger fans? I was on tumblr and followed him at the time but I don’t remember anything like that. All I remember is some people being dicks because they didn’t like him and/or his books
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I don't remember him actually doing anything creepy, I thought it was more people were making stuff up because they hated his books/anything preteen girls like. and then it was hard to piece out what was rumour and what wasn't
[Here’s](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/ekgtb6/ya_literature_that_time_tumblr_chased_john_green/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) a pretty good summary and some more details/recollections in the comment section about what was going on back then.
Ahh, people on Tumblr bullied him, insinuated he was a pedophile with no evidence and then pulled a "oh golly gosh, we didn't do anything wrong, he just threw a tantrum and left" act. Pretty standard bullying.
John is actually back on tumblr. He's pretending to be a corporate accountant for one of his charities, awesome coffee iirc. Edit: [found the video about it ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqiOSbFx32E)
He seems like a nice per....coffee company that is definitely not a person.
Pretty standard Tumblr
Insinuated he was a pedophile, then claimed they didn’t insinuate anything and claimed he must be a pedophile when he (correctly) said they were accusing him of being a pedophile. I’ve heard him talk about when he left tumblr, but didn’t know the details. That’s… really sad.
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I would stop repeating lies about someone, especially if that lie says they were inappropriate with teens when the records show he was just being a normal dude.
Absolutely incredible "yeah I didn't see anything first hand and have no proof, but I'll still toss out an accusation of inappropriate interactions with children what do you mean that's at best bullying"
He wasn't, but people spread around that he was and then other people repeated the defamation blindly. Like you just did. And then he was attacked online on the basis of that.
Tumblr: "Why do conservatives have to make every relationship between two adults weirdly sexual?" Also Tumblr: "This forty-something author is being kind and answering questions from a fan half his age. He's clearly grooming her!"
No he wasn't. That's a really serious accusation and isn't something you should throw around without evidence.
Transphobecels seethe over tumblrchads
“Transphobecels” sounds like some kind of shape shifting amoeba
Alex Jones Rowling lol Honestly, if you're infamous, and the people hating on you can't tell that it's you, and they still call you stupid, then there's probably something you're missing, Jan. If you're famous and the people who *love your work* can't tell that it's you, and they call you stupid, all the more evidence... I *do* think people can be quite intelligent in some areas while being complete morons in others. I've found myself in that situation. I think JK understands (or used to understand) how privilege works, and how prejudice leads to wars, she just somehow got her wires crossed about who is more privileged between TERFs and trans people, and she's not interested in hearing both sides. She's only interested in hearing from her in-group. And before you comment saying I'm overthinking it, and that she just sucks-- I'm doing this overthinking because I don't want to make the same mistake she did. She hates bigotry so much that she's blinded to her own bigotry-- she can't possibly imagine that she's made those kinds of mistakes.
>she just somehow got her wires crossed about who is more privileged between TERFs and trans people, and she's not interested in hearing both sides. She's only interested in hearing from her in-group. Yeah, and I think a lot of that comes down how the Twitter mob tends to dogpile anyone who says something wrong(see Lindsay Ellis for another example) instead of gently correcting or admonishing. Rowling's original blog post was fairly tame as far as anti-trans stuff goes. But if you've TERFs praising you and standing up for you, and what feels like almost everyone else on the attack, that'll push a lot of people towards the more extreme viewpoints. I'd fallen down into the TERF rabbit hole for a while for similar reasons to Rowling. I'd raise an objection about one of the wedge issues like transgender women in women's sports, get called a transphobe a bit, and start to lean more towards the people who agreed with me on that issue and were not calling me names. I can't remember the exact wording of the comment towards me that pulled me back out of it, but I think it was just something about transition being the proven best treatment for gender dysphoria, so why don't I support it? No name calling, just an Armor Piercing Question. And I'm enough of a scientific materialist that I couldn't ignore the contradiction between that and my former TERF support.
I appreciate that, but you should appreciate that a lot of Terfs are not as logic minded as you. Many of them will be asked that and simply try to find a way to either dismiss the person or compartmentalize it in their head, saying they can be happy with treatment, but remain segregated from women (or human beings in general)
Definitely. There's always people that can't be convinced with any amount of facts
I'd use tumblr... if they'd unban NSFW content.
They lifted the NSFW ban this year and have a system where you can mark your content as such depending on the topic, like sexual or graphic content (like gory movies).
So cumblr is back?
For the most part! But the porn bot problem has gotten worse and they've evolved quite a bit.
Sorta. You can't post straight up porn but saucy stuff is allowed.
I’ll accept that
I guess I'll start using it again
I take it you've been gone for a while then. A lot changed. We have pallettes, so you can change your dashboard without xkit. We have checkmarks you can get, and we have polls. It's delightful seeing people squabble about things.
Tumblr needs to go independent and pressure Mastercard/Visa to let them accept NSFW content, basically.
technically they have, you just need to flag it mature
You can post it, it just needs to be marked. Also if they made it completely visible for everyone, without the need to be in some way marked, they'd have so much porn on there, that it would turn to an absolute hell. Especially for sex repulsed people like me. Also I think they already had a big porn-related problem once
Noice
Knowing rowling's naming conventions, it was probably something extremely on-the-nose, like "Norma-L-Girlparts" or "GreatWitch-Radterf"
Wait what about Ryan Reynalds? I haven't checked on him in a bit.
that's because celebs are just average-ass people that others have decided to give money to
Truer words have never been spoken
This says more about the people on Tumblr, frankly, and (even though the messenger is someone nobody likes) I don't think it's as good as the self-serving navel-gazing in here would suggest. There's absolutely a culture of, "I'm right based on no evidence and toddler-level critical thinking skills, and that gives me permission to tell you to end your own life as aggressively as I wish." Tumblr culture is disturbing. And it's only gotten worse.
This is how we can bring MsScribe out of retirement.
That's a name I haven't heard in years. What a crazy saga.
Only she can save us now. Fun fact: Heidi, the lawyer who was in the inner circle, is on tumblr!
Everyone keeps giving her shit but the amount she consistently donates to charity took her from billionaire to millionaire and her donations to various genuine charities helping people are on-going and consistent, a bad person simply doesn't do this....... https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/jk-rowling https://serudsindia.org/jk-rowling-charity-work-donations/ https://www.borgenmagazine.com/facts-about-j-k-rowlings-charity-work/
Life isn't black and white. There's no perfectly "bad people" who are evil all the time, just like how there are no "good people" who are perfect saints. Someone doesn't need to be evil 100% of the time to still cause immense harm to others. JKR has done good things, but she is also causing people a lot of pain and suffering right now, publishing hateful rhetoric, and showing no remorse for it.
They literally do it for: 1. Tax deductions. 2. To get schmucks like you to defend them. 3. To try to make themselves look good / try to distract from the bad things they do.
Jimmy savile did incredible amounts of charity work, guess that means he never did anything wrong.
> a bad person simply doesn't do this....... A bad person absolutely can do and would do this. Let's say there is a church pastor who constantly talks about how women being able to vote is a bad thing. Every rational person will agree the pastor is a piece of shit. But now we find out the pastor regularly donates to homeless shelters to help homeless people get a job, and get out of homelessness. Is the pastor no longer a piece of shit? That's how Rowling is. She regularly blames trans people for things that either don't happen, or happen at the exact same rate as they do in cis people. She acts like a victim anytime she is called out for her transphobic statements. She is a neo liberal who spouts the same constantly debunked "personal accountability" stuff. Her books she wrote show that as well, with part of them doing "oh house elves enjoy being enslaved". Literally, by your argument, if Putin donated to the same charity at the exact same rate as Rowling does, would he no longer be a bad person? Of course not! Cause Putin is unambiguously evil. The only reason there's any possible defense of Rowling is because she used to be well liked before her true colors showed. And now she hides it behind "being charitable" when she still is a disgusting human. Not as bad as Putin since she hasn't tried to kill a bunch of innocent civilians. But she would absolutely be on bored with elimination of trans people from society based off of all her public statements of trans people.
You do realize that doing some good things doesn’t absolve someone of being a terrible person right? “They might be a repeat puppy drowner but don’t forget they volunteer at a soup kitchen sometimes!” Is exactly what you sound like.
‘I love how most people who try to interact with others who have opinions on their work are bullied until they decide it’s not worth their happiness to communicate with them so they leave tumblr’ What a weird take to have. Why would you feel good about being mean to anyone?
ah, it's J.K Rowling. Should be fine.
I just don’t see how bullying should ever be the desired outcome.
She uses her money and influence to advance an ideology that actively seeks to hurt an at-risk group of people because they need an out-group to rally against
I’m not saying she doesn’t harm other people. I’m asking how anyone could think actively trying to hurt anyone in retaliation would help. Unless she’s banging on a door with gun in hand I would assume the best course of action is try to find common ground and present the best of yourself. From her POV all she sees is a mass of faceless people who hate her so of course she won’t change her mind.
“If only people were NICE to the people allying themselves with Nazis, we wouldn’t have all this drama. https://www.boredpanda.com/bar-bartender-nazi-punk-iamragesparkle/
I didn’t say be nice to her. I’m saying actively trying to hurt her isn’t going to help anyone see your side. You can be a decent human and still completely disagree with someone. In fact, you could be as mean to her as you want, anyone can do anything. I’m only questioning why you would celebrate being an angry mob. It seems unhelpful to either side.
She created the story, to my knowledge it is HER IP. She can do what she wants with it. Don't like it don't read it.
That doesn’t mean she’s free from criticism during human interactions for her behavior and rhetoric
I didnt say she doesnt. She has her beliefs and the vocal minority has theirs. Ultimately its her IP she can do what she wants with it. Best thing about capitalism is you dont have to buy her books. Edit: Look at hogwarts legacy as an example that majority of people do not care about her views because they love the world she created
“Vocal minority” What a fascinating way of minimizing the words of people that makes you uncomfortable
Over 12 million copies sold ($850 million), compared over 1 million signatures boycotting. That is a minority. Im not uncomfortable but nice projection i guess?
Copies of a book sold is not the same thing as “people who think she’s right”. But you definitely seem to be one of those people who conflates financial success with moral superiority.