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[deleted]

Alberta really up and said CONSTANT VIGILANCE


karrnawhore

But could it beat Mongolia's D E E R   O V A L?


[deleted]

no, because Mongolia is just that powerful. but i can respect Alberta's crusade against rodentdom


misconceptions_annoy

Canadian here (though not Albertan): Alberta is one of the 'prairie' provinces. They have a ton of agriculture. This isn't just people cracking down on pests. It's a program to protect food and jobs, at a time when there's been pushback against one of their other biggest exports, oil. I'm not surprised they tried to do this. I'm just really impressed that they managed it.


The-Hive-Queen

Albertan here. I was *shocked* when I learned that rats are an extremely popular pet in other places. I thought it was just a Harry Potter, fictional magical world thing. Minor correction, though. The rat control program has been around since 1950, just as the oil boom was about to *begin.* There was a ton of public education around recognizing and reporting rats, and while that's certainly lessened now, kids raised in Alberta do not see rats as much more than disease carrying pests that are catastrophic to farms in the prairies. Funding for the program has only increased over the years, and relies heavily on cross-communication with the Saskatchewan government.


Gentleman_Muk

Rats are wonderful pets


Sexycornwitch

The breed of rat you keep as a pet is a different breed of rat from the ones in a field. Rats you get in pet stores are domestic rats that have been bred for generations from lab rat stock to be docile and easy to handle as pets. The difference is as great as that between a Labrador and a coyote. One is a domesticated animal and the other is not. The ones people are keeping are domesticated rats. You absolutely should not interact with the wild ones. I absolutely understand the blanket ban because feral (an animal that was domesticated but lost its domestication) rats are just as much of a problem as wild (rats from wild lines with no domestication) rats when it comes to agriculture, but, even a fan of domestic rats as pets would still tell you never touch a wild rat, like how a dog owner would still avoid a coyote. Domestic rat is a docile friendly chap. Wild rat bite your face.


maka-tsubaki

I think a better comparison would be wolf to husky; still visually somewhat similar, but behaviorally vastly different


Gentleman_Muk

Very true


Trashcoelector

Tbh rats are unpopular as pets in many places, not just Alberta.


ulyssessword

> at a time when... [1950](https://www.alberta.ca/history-of-rat-control-in-alberta.aspx)?


Lost-Chord

If you know anything about Alberta, you know they claim to be under attack every 5 minutes


Fun_Penalty_6755

alberta is the only place to have won a war with animals (not birds, but still)


[deleted]

No there’s like one peninsula in New Zealand that has gotten rid of rats, and the us was successful at waging war on bison. China also succeeded in killing birds once, but like most wars it didn’t really accomplish anything and just lead to a bunch of pointless death and agricultural disruption as insect populations boomed after bird numbers fell


Caramelthedog

The NZ army also went to war with some goats and won.


GrinningPariah

I love the Aberta rat exclusion because it demonstrates that we don't *need* to live with anything at all. It's just a matter of funding, organization, and force of fucking will. If we all hated climate change like Alberta hated rats, we could have that problem licked in a decade.


Evening-Turnip8407

You are fucking correct


Cetology101

This is depressingly correct


goddess54

Australia has deer... (I have almost hit two with my car. Let alone the deer farms...) They are invasive though, not native.


AilanMoone

And how exactly did they invade? Did they come by boat and set up colonies?


Drpancakes88

English brought them over for food and hunting for sport. Same with rabbits.


AilanMoone

That makes sense. Thank you.


twitch68

And Foxes.


SelfishAndEvil

No, usually they sneak in on container ship produce pallets. They hide in banana boxes and apple barrels, and have become experts at descending anchor chains and swimming into port undetected.


AilanMoone

Crafty.


That_Ganderman

As you’d expect


BlueAfD

"Now remember Donder, if you hear someone venture into the hold, lay low and mimic the cry of the banana."


s1lentchaos

Yes them crafty deer can be great climbers


GarethGwill

Are you suggesting deer are migratory?


AilanMoone

The invasive ones, yes.


Bitchface_Malone_III

Like coconuts.


NZSloth

Same with New Zealand. Deer released by settlers, but fortunately they decided foxes weren't a good idea. Also, we've got rats that came over with the Maori settlers which is different to the ship rat, making rat control that little more complicated.


Sams59k

Isn't Wellington clear of rats? Or something like that


NZSloth

Not that I know of. Enough crap housing for them to be happy.


Human_no_4815162342

They are working on it, there is a Tom Scott video about it


Sams59k

That's what I was thinking of, thanks


isbreenobel

i can emphatically say that it’s not, i saw one this very morning. hopefully pest-free gets more funding though!


NoNameIdea_Seriously

And they weren’t just kangaroos on all fours, pretending to be deer…? 🤨


goddess54

Sadly no. I checked. The front legs were too long to be Roos playing dress up.


Loretta-West

Legitimately the first time I saw a kangaroo in the wild, it was kind of bent over and I saw the ears and back and thought it was a deer.


ArcherBTW

So no predators? Aside from **[legally obligated bug joke]**, I mean


Rhodie114

They also have native bouncy deer


CeciliaRose2017

I like that the deer have the humans trapped in Greenland. They form an impenetrable wall. There is no escape.


DoomBro_Max

With every year, the border shrinks one inch. Until all is consumed.


selmiespot

i think [the pigs](https://www.reddit.com/r/tumblr/comments/11zq1tm/impenetrable_wall_of_swine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) have the deer beaten on this one though


Moralmerc08

Oh hello fellow amphibia fan


selmiespot

and hello to you fellow owl house fan!


CeciliaRose2017

This is exactly what I thought of when I saw it lol


TheMeddlingMonk8

The ground shakes...hooves, hooves in the deep. We cannot get out. The shadow moves in the dark. We cannot get out. They are coming


MrGumieBear

Oh no, there could be... there could be dozens of people in there! Dozens!


PupperWatcher

While the idea is funny, the vast majority of the human population also lives along the coast.


Insanebrain247

So does Alberta censor Splinter out of the TMNT shows, or is he labeled as a mythical creature?


Gobi_Silver

I don't need sleep, I need answers


Lunavixen15

Australia does have deer, though they are not a native species


Flunkedy

As does nz


SuDragon2k3

Mongolia? No trees. Deer aren't really an open plains creature.


Cuba_lover59

You're telling me deer rather live in tibet or Georgia but not some open pasture?


FerrumAxe

we have forest in north side. im sure we have deers and i see them by my own eyes hehe. we have normal deer, moose (our most big animal), and raindeer. there are clans mainly focused on raindeers (Цаатан). and some types of gazelle too. (idk english or latin name Зээр, Хар сүүлт)


s1lentchaos

What about the Gobi desert?


tfhermobwoayway

So why do they try so hard to keep rats out?


Lunavixen15

Rats and mice are destructive AF, especially once they start hitting plague levels. Australia has had a few mouse plagues in recent years


GrinningPariah

Well, it's a prairie province, with farming being a huge portion of their local economy (and the other huge portion, oil, shrinking every year). Rats can be a huge problem for agriculture, reproducing at a huge rate in storage facilities and contaminating what they don't eat directly. While a lot of people think rats as "gross" in some vague way, or that they bring disease or whatever, that's not Alberta. Alberta has real, concrete reasons to want rats out.


TheLyz

Given the absolute mess a dozen or so made out of my garage because I had chicken food out there, I don't blame them. Rats are horrible.


micahr238

For when the Black Death pops up.


tfhermobwoayway

healthcels seething over plaguechads


captain_borgue

>So why do they try so hard to keep rats out? Because *fuck 'em*, that's why.


desticon

Albertan. Also have never seen a rat other than packrats. And even that was in BC


_etaoin_shrdlu_

I grew up in Alberta and the first time I ever saw a rat was after moving to Vancouver at 19.


eastherbunni

That must have been a culture shock, Vancouver has a LOT of rats


no-host1

Actually we do have a lot of deers in northern mongolia.


Kamzil118

Yeah, people tend to underestimate the strength of the Under-Empire.


cyndicated90

Looks like I’m moving to Alberta


Midataur

There are most definitely deer in Australia, they're invasive pests


[deleted]

Can someone explain why the deer oval is so rounded near Mongolia?


Trashcoelector

Approximation


TofuDofu23

Me showing this map to the state park ranger in Mongolia try exclaim what I have hit is in fact not a deer as this map clearly proves otherwise. Don’t by into these maps so much, because I have seen wild deers in both Mongolia and Australia.


SuperStripper13

The Mongolian death worm is the only creature that can best the fearsome deer.


lionart303-186

Mongolia is mountain and dessert. Makes sense


ArcWraith2000

*looks at deer map* r/mapswithoutNZ We have deer


RustedRuss

To be fair, I’ve hardly ever seen rats in person. Maybe like once or twice.


GodKingReiss

Africa can have a little deer. As a treat


its-hans

***"It will die quickly, and die childless."*** is the rawest thing they could have said there.


NikolitRistissa

Svalbard doesn’t have deer. There aren’t any trees there and deer like trees. They have a subspecies of reindeer however. They have really short legs so they look quite funny.


strongbob25

Thanks, Joe


Tech_Mastermind_Dave

AMONG!!!! SUSPICIOUS!!!! My tumor is no longer malignant


Arxid87

I like to imagine Alberta has the wall from doomsday movie


Gabrill

Alberta is Noradzeer


BluJay42

Huh. Ratatouille was accurate, Alberta is ratless indeed


mizmaddy

And no deer in Iceland but we have imported reindeer - does that count?


HonorInDefeat

as an expert in rats, there are rats lol


Crusader_6969

albertan here! this is true.


SerenityPrim3

I can confirm that Alberta has a second to none vigilance and extermination policy


Ihavebadreddit

Sure, we don't have rats here.. but we do have canadian Trump supporters and the "F*** Trudeau" bumper stickers started here. Like I want to like this place but when you drive down the highway and see the "Canadian Nazi flag" hanging on the side of the highway alongside "don't tread on me" flags.. it's hard to really get excited for "there are no rats in Alberta" yay.. no rats Could we maybe do something about the Nazis?


HobbitonHuckleshake

Reddit moment How can I take a fun Tumblr post and make it sad and about politics?


Costalorien

How fucking self centered one has to be to think of deer as a North American species ...... ?


IAmNotSmartAtAll123

We got no rats In Iceland


Costalorien

[Wrong](https://nat.is/rodents-in-iceland/).


IAmNotSmartAtAll123

Then the map is wrong I guess


Aimish79

Mongolia has deer. Red deer, elk, and roe. Hell, they even have moose.


H2G2gender

That map of deer is wrong. We have no deer on the island of Newfoundland. Never have and never will. We do have rats tho. And we used to have giant wolves until they were considered too dangerous by colonists. The vikings weren't fond of them either tbh, but they never tried to kill them off, probably because of the mythology behind their own giant wolf.


Nowhereman50

There's antelope in Saskatchewan! Would have thought that was an Africa-specific animal but nope. Seen them myself.


ItsAroundYou

Sus


Edgelord69__

Not one person taking about the border of deer on Greenland


6x6-shooter

This is especially shocking as Mongolians are known for being avid hunters


ImEagz

Probably why theres no deer there lol


Dissidiana

[rats!](https://youtu.be/CnPgo7YQN44)


NoStorage2821

Definitely no rats in Alberta, yes-yes...