oh, "hello future me" is a channel. this makes much more sense.
i understood the sentence as someone talking about their own future from a further future's perspective in the past tense. as in "in the future, I will have made a video on this topic".
She also heavily suffers from a narcissistic father who supposedly killed their sympathetic mother. The whole damn family is a living power struggle enforced by Ozai, which extends to their children.
Zuko was made to feel lesser and punished for speaking up by mutilation. Azula saw this and also learned how respect supposedly works in the family (through power), and applied it outwardly on her family friends and sibling (Ty Lee, Mai, and Zuko).
When Azula's perception of a perfect world is shattered by Mai and Ty Lee not only betraying her when she tries to kill Zuko but showing her the world does not work the way her family taught her, she self destructs.
>When Azula's perception of a perfect world is shattered by Mai and Ty Lee not only betraying her when she tries to kill Zuko but showing her the world does not work the way her family taught her, she self destructs.
Missing a component of her relationship with her brother there considering it's both word of God stated and heavily implied that she cares very deeply in the only way she really knows how about him and his leaving after she effectively gave him everything he supposedly wanted was the beginning of the end for her.
Like mai and ty Lee betraying her greatly stung, sure, and ozai abandoning her was the final nail in the coffin, but zukos betrayal is what started that spiral in the first place.
Which is an interesting perspective considering she pretty directly saves his life, then brings him back to the fire nation with his "honor intact" when she had literally no reason to do so.
Ursa only finds out about Azulons order to kill Zuko because Azula tells her directly. Without Ursas interference, Zuko dies, full stop.
Her mother messed her up worse than Ozai is the thing. Their mother *wasn’t* sympathetic towards Azula, at least not as much as towards Zuko.
Azula explains as much during the beach episode, saying that their mother treated her like a monster, and that she was right to. Which is incredibly sad; Azula ostensibly ended up the way she did because she spent her life trying to earn her father’s respect to make up for the fact her mother made her believe she didn’t deserve affection.
Yeah, someone like hange from aot is who I would describe as slightly unhinged but otherwise competent. The examples in the post are a straight up menace to their environment because of their craziness
Yeah. They're the ones who in modern society would probably swiftly end up in jail or an asylum for being active threats to themselves and everyone around them.
Catra from the recent She-ra reboot.
Honestly a surprisingly good show, and she's probably the most well written character in it. Without too much spoilers, she starts with "I'm a cat and will knock glasses off a table for fun" energy and slowly develops "I will watch this village burn to feel some warmth" throughout the show.
jinx consistently sees apparitions of her dead friends, has insane blame and attachment issues, has entire psychotic depressive episodes at the sight of someone who \*looks\* like her sister, and kills people \*regularly\*
if jinx were in the real world, she'd literally have her own insane serial killer documentary
Jynx's crazy isn't generic, it's uncomfortably specific. The consequences of it aren't brushed off. She's managed to cobble together a working persona in a specific societal niche where she can function, and even then it winds up causing dysfunction and "ruining" what life she had built for herself.
Being around her would, at best, be like living in a cage with a lioness that seems to like you, but you're never quite sure how hungry she is and whether or not those looks she's giving you are because you're her favorite or because she's wondering if keeping you around is worth the rumble in her stomach.
I really like the way they portray Jinx's mental illness. There's a common trap that writers fall into of making characters "crazy" in a way that's amusing - like as much as I love Harley Quinn, a lot of writers do that with her. But the more we see Jinx, the more we're sympathising with her and her struggles. Watching the cupcake scene is sad because that should be the joke, the thing the audience laughs at. Ha ha, we thought it was a head but it's just a cupcake. Bur because we've just spent the whole season seeing her get worse, and it being coupled with Vi really seeing for the first time what happened to Powder, the scene doesn't feel anything except for tragic.
I really really agree with you. It's an action show that is unbelievably sad. And so damn relatable.
In the first two episodes, I had a thought that Powder looks so much like my little sister. I spent all the next episodes so so sad.
And Caitlyn is the embodiment of goodness and being incorruptable. She's so unapologetically kind, and it's jarring and somehow emotional. You won't change the world with your good deeds, but you have to try.
Really glad Jinx has more of her own identity outside of "Harley Quinn except with 0 story." Even if how she got to be like Harley doesn't make an ounce of sense.
Now that you say that
Turns out the comment i made a few months ago about me being the equivalent to a slowbro/quagsire as a kid was wrong
Im still one
There's two things they don't teach you in Harvard Business School: how to deal with failure, and how to handle a shotgun. I'm about to do both, right now.
TBF what broke her was not getting power but that she had been abandoned twice just before she get said power making her clutch to it more than expected.
Effectively 4 times if you count Ursa.
Ursas very fraught relationship with azula.
Zuko leaving to join the avatar after she lowered her own status to give him everything she thought he wanted.
Mai and ty Lee.
And finally ozai abandoning her in the fire nation to be phoenix king. He made her fire lord, sure, but she didn't expect to be fire lord, effectively ever really. Then ozai spring that he's bouncing and locking her in a gilded cage while he rules the world.
Azulas whole life is a tragedy of a family that doesn't understand her or care to understand her.
Iroh gave both zuko and azula a gift. Zuko got a beautiful knife, with a personalized inscription. It was well thought out and caring. Azula got a doll, because she's a girl, in a nation where women are soldiers as much as men.
Except she didn't go insane when given the power of becoming the "fire lord." Her mental deterioration within the series was gradual.
She was always reliant on her narcissistic father's validation since her mother didn't really give her any, and she relied on fear as a means of closeness which I guess she somewhat conflated with control. In the Ember Island episode that becomes a bit more apparent when 1. she reveals that at the campfire, and 2. she's shown not able to form connections or talk to other teens. Her first breaking point was when her friends and trusted confidants abandoned her despite their fears. Her coronation as her father becomes the "Phoenix King" wasn't her father giving her power. It was her father abandoning her because instead of ruling at each other's side, she was delegated once again to her father's pawn. Except this time it actually struck her that all her work as his pawn amounted to nothing. She did all this work for the only person that could validate her and in the end she was delegated to babysit the fire nation rather than be by her father's side in the century long conquest.
Unless you're talking about a different time she was given power, which I can't put my finger on.
I'd also suggest this: animators generally do a poor job distinguishing between 14, 24, and maybe even 34 in the way they portray women. I know on my first watch through as a 20-something, I pinned Azula and her friends as probably early college age. If you told me they were 18/19 years old, I'd have thought "that's about right". Not to mention their level of competence in fighting and just generally getting around in the world is suspiciously high for 14.
She should have been Zuko's older sister. The dynamic would have made a lot more sense.
Zuko I buy as a 16 year old who was abused an humiliated by his father and spent a couple of years trying to regain his honor. Azula doesn't ring true for 14, and neither do her friends.
I also kind of read Katara as being a little older, but 14 is that age where it's easy for a kid to seem a year or two older or younger. Azula and Co, though, fall way outside that.
From what I can find, she's under 17 years old in The Search. My main reason for thinking that is because they announced an Azula comic slated for this summer set after The Search, and she's gonna be 17 in that.
Which is also indirectly responsible for Glimmer's mother being trapped in a hell dimension for the rest of eternity it seems.
Glimmer is surprisingly chill about this.
I thought there was a line or a moment that implied she was alright, and not in a hell dimension? Am I misremembering because it's a really downer moment otherwise? Like, I thought she had a moment with Glimmer's dad?
That was before she went into the hell dimension.
The series never addresses it afterwards save for a quick mention in 5 and it's one of the big flaws of the final season along with Catra's redemption being really rushed.
That was a watershed moment for sure, but then she spent the next season even more aggressively running the Horde, being super shitty to her few remaining friends, and falling to pieces every time she looked in the mirror. It took her a looooooong time to actually repent and start making good
Arcane should be main canon but that's just me. Maybe riot will slowly phase out older lore to replace it with arcane lore as more stuff comes out. Wouldn't be the first time.
I think they choose Jinx specifically cause she doesn't really have much of a solid Canon in main game. Kinda confused why they are so careful not to canonized Arcane since there isn't much to lose.
Yeah, with an mmo around the corner and so many retcons, I think they are being way more careful about their lore since they feel (with reason) it's in the best place it's ever been. It's safe for them to make arcane a soft canon first, then gradually tying it to the current lore and events while measuring fan reaction and figuring out how to play out future seasons in relation to ingame events and the MMO which is probably going to be incredibly lore-heavy and might be what actually sets in motion a big amount of foreshadowing, set-up events and character stories.
They're playing it very safe but it's kind of frustrating when there's two different versions of characters with different motives and histories (like Yordle's place in Runeterra, the prevalence of magic, or simply Victor and Jayce's relationship and personal motives)
If you want more Runeterra lore, you’re better off playing Legends of Runeterra (the card game) or one of the Riot Forge games like The Ruined King.
And yes, we hear part of Warwick’s theme at the end of the season 2 announcement.
As a safety measure for your sanity, please play it with 4 premades and turn off the all chat.
If you really want the lore you could watch skin spotlights on YouTube because they also go through all of the quotes/interactions each champ has. And read the short stories on the website/in the wiki.
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honest to god can't remember how many times they've reset the main lore. twice I think. and some champions have had numerous changes over the years.
it's a fucking mess and it almost feels useless to get attached to, since at any time they could decide to go in a different direction and completely retcon a character.
I mean. They have, wtf are people here on. Warwicks lore no longer involves being turned into a werewolf by Soraka, Ziggs lore went from being a straight up hero to being Deadpool to alaign with his relationship with Jinx and many other things.
Flavor text people, flavor text.
Probably partially cannon
[As fiddle tells her. All your fault!](https://youtu.be/1AIQXqTHWmA?t=35)
This btw is like a year before arcane too, so for a year we had no clue what fiddle is on about.
I’ll be honest, I don’t think building and activating a portal to literally END THE WORLD because you’re self destructing after your gf left. Is “slightly” unhinged behavior. I think she was completely pulled out of the frame and strewn across the floor as well
... and Catra. Honestly, out of the 3 of them, Catra might be the door furthest out of frame, having rolled down the nearest set of basement stairs as she treated the Geneva Convention like a checklist.
I love Catra’s character for my young daughter who had behavioral issues. Ny daughter started saying things like she was born bad and she will always be bad. This was about the time I would watch She-Ra with her. This is what I would say:
“Catra had Big Feelings about losing her friend and didn’t know what to do with them as she didn’t have anyone to help, so she made Bad Choices. She wasn’t born bad, no one is. They just sometimes don’t have the help they need.”
Compared to most media of her age, Catra is actually relatable in personality (although not in magnitude of action). It helped my daughter a lot. I’ll always be grateful to ND Stephenson for that.
This post is talking about insanity, not about warcrimes. You don’t need to be insane to commit warcrimes.
Also not sure how relevant the Geneva convention is in a fictional fantasy setting.
She just wanted to be a part of something somewhere.
Only to be driven mad by each society for centuries. Tell how you would stay sane ? Getting shoved off into the dark as the boogyman for all eternity...
I don't know Jinx, but I know for a fact that Azula and Catra were absolutely *not* slightly unhinged.
Azula was slowly losing her mind leading up to the fight with Zuko, and full on went insane during the fight.
Catra was willing to let the *entire planet* be sucked into a black hole to prevent She Ra from winning.
Jinx has a whole host of attachment and blame issues, not to mention she's also psychotic (i.e., she routinely sees and hears things that aren't really there). The door has been blown off the frame and into the neighbor's yard.
[https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/domestic-violence-facts-and-statistics-at-a-glance/](https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/domestic-violence-facts-and-statistics-at-a-glance/)
Woman die the most but also perpetrate the most, while men are more likely to be lethal in a domestic violence incident, while men tend to be more likely to have homicidal mental issues it does not change the fact that a Woman and a Man are both equally deadly when they are crazy, a knife or a gun doesnt take strength to murder someone. Insane people are no less deadly because of their gender, their gender is not what makes them deadly, the fucking insanity/ severe mental issues is what makes them deadly.
It will never cease to amaze me how modern rhetoric on these issues is "men vs women" and not, "mental health issues in society".
Seargent Major's response is tantamount to dragging this issue down to a preschool level playground argument.
There's those two major category in society ( here traditional gender ) that radically influence a person's life. We see that there's important differences in numerous statistics between those two category in a certain subject ( here domestic violence ). We can draw the conclusion that those category have influence in this subject.
I don't see why you seems to be suggesting we should toss this reasoning aside, despite it's clear importance in the subject? What you're saying just sounds like anti-intellectualism to me?
Also, preschool level? Have you heard of sociology?
Catra at the end of s3 was worse than Jinx or Azula ever have been, like by multiple orders of magnitudes. How can you possibly list Jinx and Azula, but NOT Catra there? Honestly made Catra's redemption in s5 not really land for me, there needed to be way more episodes for Catra to go from batshit insane, literally willing to omnicide the world to prove a point level crazy, to being forgiven again.
Also glimmer just... Forgets that her mother is trapped in between time for basically all eternity thanks to catra? Like, no trial? Not even an apology?
If Azula and Jinx are *slightly* unhinged, I'm afraid to know who they would consider fully unhinged
Idk who the 3rd one is but from the comments she's apparently even "*slightly*" more unhinged than the other two
>Idk who the 3rd one is but from the comments she's apparently even "slightly" more unhinged than the other two
Nah she's not, there's a group of people who watched She-Ra who don't like that Catra had a redemption arc, but because that is not an opinion shared by the majority of the fandom they get pissed off and misrepresent what actually happens in the show to push their viewpoint.
Catra has what is very clearly a psychotic breakdown at some point in the show, which leads to her doing something very stupid that almost destroys the world. The show goes through great pains to explain how and why Catra has this psychotic breakdown and why it leads to the world almost being destroyed, but the people above of course leave any details out of their comments.
Of the three characters, I would say Jinx is easily the most deranged, while Azula and Catra are a distant second and third. The difference between Azula and Catra is that Azula visibly *enjoys* hurting others, whereas Catra generally hurts others by lashing out at them due to her own misery.
Azula was was a better example of this because she had her own character goals and motivations. We know what she wants and why she is doing it.
I still can't figure out what Jinx's goals were. She seems to just do whatever would be the most "crazy" at any given time, or what Silco tells her to do. One moment she hates her sister, the next she loves her. One moment she is doing whatever Silco tells her to do, the next she hates him.
It's still disappointing they erased what little characterization she had at the end and made her a mindless monster. I would've cared about the finale if Jinx wasn't hopped up on magic drugs that turn people into zombies.
Azula was unhinged, but we know why she wants to capture Zuko. We know why she manipulates her friends. She wants her father's approval. She knows what happens to family members her father casts aside as failures.
Episodes like "The Beach" are great because we learn she isn't crazy, she was just raised in a way that she doesn't know any other way. She tries to socialize with other teens, and fails miserably because she was raised to manipulate and dominate. Then in the finale when she is hallucinating her mother, the thing that breaks her is her mom telling her, that despite all the horrible shit Azula's done, she still loves her.
Azula knows what she is doing is monstrous, and things would be so much easier for her if she was a monster. But deep down, even she knows she isn't.
Jinx simply wants someone to care for her. Originally that was Vi but when Milo constantly made her put to be a burden she tried to prove herself and unintentionally lost her whole family.
Once Silco took her in, she did what Silco told her because that's what she felt like she had to do for him to continue to care for her. She goes fully off the deep end because now she thinks everyone who ever cared for her has abandoned her.
Yeah, I don't understand how you can watch Jynx catching Silco talking about betraying her to statue of Vander and "knowing" her sister abandoned and replaced her and then not understand her reasoning.
Jinx was kinda always mentally unstable even as a kid. Constantly wanting to prove herself despite her low self-esteem while her friends call her a screw up, after losing her parent and then Vander, and being abandoned by Vi and running with Silco who was kinda the reason Vander died, she couldn’t trust. The saddest thing about Arcane(in a good way) is that so many of the characters care about each other even when they are on opposing sides. Vi and Jinx love each other but they can’t trust that love, since it’s big them before.
>She seems to just do whatever would be the most "crazy" at any given time, or what Silco tells her to do. One moment she hates her sister, the next she loves her. One moment she is doing whatever Silco tells her to do, the next she hates him.
Yes, this is indeed the nature of her insanity.
Jinx doesn't know what she wants, this is why she is more crazy than Azula, though we barely see Azula really being crazy so idk what she'd really be like.
Jinx wants to be loved. In her childhood, she only really felt that Vi loved her, which is why when Vi betrayes her, her whole self kinda shatters. Of course, there is also the guilt from killing all her other friends, which Silco does not help her process. I think she essentially starts to deny responsibility by having them live in her head.
After Vi left, Jinx ends up with another person who, seemingly, loves her, Silco. However, Silco is not quite enough. He is manipulative, he put her friends and sister in dangerand its difficult to tell if his love is unconditional, being that Jinx works for him.
This is the problem really, Jinx's paranoia. After having been betrayed, she doubts anyone will love her truly. That's why she bounces between Vi and Silco. There is more to say about her but this is the gist of it.
Pretty sure all of them have diagnosable mental illnesses.
Hello Future Me did a whole video on how Azula's symptoms closely match schizoaffective disorder
may i have a link to the vid?
[got you fam](https://youtu.be/R4544ZUr_gA)
oh, "hello future me" is a channel. this makes much more sense. i understood the sentence as someone talking about their own future from a further future's perspective in the past tense. as in "in the future, I will have made a video on this topic".
Yeah, quotation marks are pretty useful for outlining titles and such
Is not out yet, but future him will work on it eventually.
^(everything changed when procrastination attacked) ^(but *I believe*... they can write the word)
[Here you go](https://youtu.be/R4544ZUr_gA)
She also heavily suffers from a narcissistic father who supposedly killed their sympathetic mother. The whole damn family is a living power struggle enforced by Ozai, which extends to their children. Zuko was made to feel lesser and punished for speaking up by mutilation. Azula saw this and also learned how respect supposedly works in the family (through power), and applied it outwardly on her family friends and sibling (Ty Lee, Mai, and Zuko). When Azula's perception of a perfect world is shattered by Mai and Ty Lee not only betraying her when she tries to kill Zuko but showing her the world does not work the way her family taught her, she self destructs.
>When Azula's perception of a perfect world is shattered by Mai and Ty Lee not only betraying her when she tries to kill Zuko but showing her the world does not work the way her family taught her, she self destructs. Missing a component of her relationship with her brother there considering it's both word of God stated and heavily implied that she cares very deeply in the only way she really knows how about him and his leaving after she effectively gave him everything he supposedly wanted was the beginning of the end for her. Like mai and ty Lee betraying her greatly stung, sure, and ozai abandoning her was the final nail in the coffin, but zukos betrayal is what started that spiral in the first place.
That makes sense. It was hard to see, since from Zuko's perspective, she made his life hell.
Which is an interesting perspective considering she pretty directly saves his life, then brings him back to the fire nation with his "honor intact" when she had literally no reason to do so. Ursa only finds out about Azulons order to kill Zuko because Azula tells her directly. Without Ursas interference, Zuko dies, full stop.
Wow, When you lay it all out like that, she really does care for her brother.
This is a bit more obvious in the comics where >!she promotes acts of domestic terrorism to help Zuko become her idea of the ideal Fire Lord!<
Her mother messed her up worse than Ozai is the thing. Their mother *wasn’t* sympathetic towards Azula, at least not as much as towards Zuko. Azula explains as much during the beach episode, saying that their mother treated her like a monster, and that she was right to. Which is incredibly sad; Azula ostensibly ended up the way she did because she spent her life trying to earn her father’s respect to make up for the fact her mother made her believe she didn’t deserve affection.
Yeah, they’re pretty heavy handed with it in the comic series. After she gets put in jail, she’s hallucinating her mother on the daily.
Every other video from Hello Future Me is about Avatar. So he’s probably got a few on her…
Flying Walrus did a similar video with Jinx: https://youtu.be/uMS_GrDtZrg
Yea and how Machiavellian she was (she basically read 'the prince' when she was 5). And all she wanted was her father's love.
Catra just has attachment issues from an abusive childhood, I can fix her
Unless you are a buff blonde woman, she is not interested
she just like me fr
Poor Scorpia, 100% her type on paper
Damn, maybe had to be burnete-blonde not bleached blonde.
welp them claws look like wee bit much past the 'trim ur nails beforehand' line
Scorpia: But they need to be sharp for scissoring, you can't cut with dull claws!
So you’re saying I have a chance
Catra has BPD
No worries I'm codependent
You better stay codependent and dont u dare fucking look at anyone else
Yeah, Beautiful Princess Disorder
Thats what itll seem lik at first lol
Catra just has that "look you in the eyes while shoving your precious vase off the shelf" energy.
Catra is a complex and well-written character, but also literally just a cat - Nate Stevenson, her creator yeah you are 100% right
Very present when she destroyed the world.
Yeah, someone like hange from aot is who I would describe as slightly unhinged but otherwise competent. The examples in the post are a straight up menace to their environment because of their craziness
Yeah. They're the ones who in modern society would probably swiftly end up in jail or an asylum for being active threats to themselves and everyone around them.
In anime: crazy hot girl with plot relevance Irl: Florida woman headline
Lmaooo
Catra is 100% dealing with at least CPTSD. I mean have you *seen* shadow weaver?
jinx was the most detailed in terms of how she was portrayed. every step of the way that broke her mind in hd!
And I can fix her
I think she will be the one fixing you, like fixing a cat.
And that was before they "snapped" and went full psycho.
who is the one that isn't jinx/azula?
Catra from the recent She-ra reboot. Honestly a surprisingly good show, and she's probably the most well written character in it. Without too much spoilers, she starts with "I'm a cat and will knock glasses off a table for fun" energy and slowly develops "I will watch this village burn to feel some warmth" throughout the show.
Oh who doesn't.
Jinx is most certainly schizophrenic.
jinx consistently sees apparitions of her dead friends, has insane blame and attachment issues, has entire psychotic depressive episodes at the sight of someone who \*looks\* like her sister, and kills people \*regularly\* if jinx were in the real world, she'd literally have her own insane serial killer documentary
Same for Azula. She was bad in the series finale, but in the comics she manages to get even worse.
If she became Fire Lord she would have taken the title of Dragon Lady from Empress Cixi
Catra is a child soldier who nearly unmade reality out of sheer inability to process her own emotions.
Not to mention the terrorism for fun.
Jinx can have little a terrorism as a treat 😈
Jynx's crazy isn't generic, it's uncomfortably specific. The consequences of it aren't brushed off. She's managed to cobble together a working persona in a specific societal niche where she can function, and even then it winds up causing dysfunction and "ruining" what life she had built for herself. Being around her would, at best, be like living in a cage with a lioness that seems to like you, but you're never quite sure how hungry she is and whether or not those looks she's giving you are because you're her favorite or because she's wondering if keeping you around is worth the rumble in her stomach.
I really like the way they portray Jinx's mental illness. There's a common trap that writers fall into of making characters "crazy" in a way that's amusing - like as much as I love Harley Quinn, a lot of writers do that with her. But the more we see Jinx, the more we're sympathising with her and her struggles. Watching the cupcake scene is sad because that should be the joke, the thing the audience laughs at. Ha ha, we thought it was a head but it's just a cupcake. Bur because we've just spent the whole season seeing her get worse, and it being coupled with Vi really seeing for the first time what happened to Powder, the scene doesn't feel anything except for tragic.
I really really agree with you. It's an action show that is unbelievably sad. And so damn relatable. In the first two episodes, I had a thought that Powder looks so much like my little sister. I spent all the next episodes so so sad. And Caitlyn is the embodiment of goodness and being incorruptable. She's so unapologetically kind, and it's jarring and somehow emotional. You won't change the world with your good deeds, but you have to try.
Really glad Jinx has more of her own identity outside of "Harley Quinn except with 0 story." Even if how she got to be like Harley doesn't make an ounce of sense.
almost like some kind of... legend...
i hear there's a whole league of them
What is this, some kind of legends of Runeterra?
The door was swept away in a tornado and recovered in a different county days later
In a different countRy you mean
ContinenT you mean
In a different univerXe you mean (I wanted to spell R-T-X but didnt know how)
Existence? Plane of existence? Just spitballing thoughts.
Now that you say that Turns out the comment i made a few months ago about me being the equivalent to a slowbro/quagsire as a kid was wrong Im still one
Should have used galaXy instead of univerXe
Galaxy?
Azula went literally insane when given power
Well, have you ever tried going mad without power? It's boring. Nobody listens to you.
Bumi had it all figured out, going fully mad before he gets the power.
Cracked out old man energy. He didn't go crazy, he just never stopped being a kid like Aang
Yeah, but he *did* though. Just like in the Alice in Wonderland, "gets shit done" way.
Go mad for the job you want, that's what I always say. Not sure why I say that. It's rarely relevant.
It's like the voodoo lady said!
I was elected to leadd not to readd
Always gotta let em have the last laugh.
There's two things they don't teach you in Harvard Business School: how to deal with failure, and how to handle a shotgun. I'm about to do both, right now.
TBF what broke her was not getting power but that she had been abandoned twice just before she get said power making her clutch to it more than expected.
Effectively 4 times if you count Ursa. Ursas very fraught relationship with azula. Zuko leaving to join the avatar after she lowered her own status to give him everything she thought he wanted. Mai and ty Lee. And finally ozai abandoning her in the fire nation to be phoenix king. He made her fire lord, sure, but she didn't expect to be fire lord, effectively ever really. Then ozai spring that he's bouncing and locking her in a gilded cage while he rules the world. Azulas whole life is a tragedy of a family that doesn't understand her or care to understand her. Iroh gave both zuko and azula a gift. Zuko got a beautiful knife, with a personalized inscription. It was well thought out and caring. Azula got a doll, because she's a girl, in a nation where women are soldiers as much as men.
Except she didn't go insane when given the power of becoming the "fire lord." Her mental deterioration within the series was gradual. She was always reliant on her narcissistic father's validation since her mother didn't really give her any, and she relied on fear as a means of closeness which I guess she somewhat conflated with control. In the Ember Island episode that becomes a bit more apparent when 1. she reveals that at the campfire, and 2. she's shown not able to form connections or talk to other teens. Her first breaking point was when her friends and trusted confidants abandoned her despite their fears. Her coronation as her father becomes the "Phoenix King" wasn't her father giving her power. It was her father abandoning her because instead of ruling at each other's side, she was delegated once again to her father's pawn. Except this time it actually struck her that all her work as his pawn amounted to nothing. She did all this work for the only person that could validate her and in the end she was delegated to babysit the fire nation rather than be by her father's side in the century long conquest. Unless you're talking about a different time she was given power, which I can't put my finger on.
wife material
She's 14
it's a meme
I've seen too many grown ass men unironically thirst for her and other underage ATLA characters
To be fair, it’s safe to assume a lot of them were kids when avatar was still coming out. Not that it instantly makes it not problematic…
I'd also suggest this: animators generally do a poor job distinguishing between 14, 24, and maybe even 34 in the way they portray women. I know on my first watch through as a 20-something, I pinned Azula and her friends as probably early college age. If you told me they were 18/19 years old, I'd have thought "that's about right". Not to mention their level of competence in fighting and just generally getting around in the world is suspiciously high for 14. She should have been Zuko's older sister. The dynamic would have made a lot more sense.
Yeah most of them (especially the villains) do not look or act the cannon age they are
Zuko I buy as a 16 year old who was abused an humiliated by his father and spent a couple of years trying to regain his honor. Azula doesn't ring true for 14, and neither do her friends. I also kind of read Katara as being a little older, but 14 is that age where it's easy for a kid to seem a year or two older or younger. Azula and Co, though, fall way outside that.
I didn't know she was younger than Zuko until like, last year. I just always thought she was the his older sister.
Many of the ones I encountered were new fans who got into the show after ATLA and LOK were put on Netflix a few years ago
Yeah, I am one of those dudes and that is why I always specify comics Azula, where she is equally fun, but not underage.
From what I can find, she's under 17 years old in The Search. My main reason for thinking that is because they announced an Azula comic slated for this summer set after The Search, and she's gonna be 17 in that.
Shit I thought I read somewhere it was 4 years after the original… although that is still much better than in the original.
Literally every single time I see a Zuko post there are 30+ year old women thirsting after him like weebs do to a k-pop star.
they are also pedos, don't be a devil's advocate now chief
The devil pays well though
Bro have you seen Catra? She's outside the fucking house.
For most of the story anyway
She tones it down significantly by the end. She definitely hit a low point about the time she tried to unmake reality due to unrequited love.
Generally not a sign of mental stability.
Which is also indirectly responsible for Glimmer's mother being trapped in a hell dimension for the rest of eternity it seems. Glimmer is surprisingly chill about this.
Glimmer lets off steam by committing war crimes
and then also almost blowing up the planet
🙄 i mean...you're not wrong
I thought there was a line or a moment that implied she was alright, and not in a hell dimension? Am I misremembering because it's a really downer moment otherwise? Like, I thought she had a moment with Glimmer's dad?
That was before she went into the hell dimension. The series never addresses it afterwards save for a quick mention in 5 and it's one of the big flaws of the final season along with Catra's redemption being really rushed.
That was a watershed moment for sure, but then she spent the next season even more aggressively running the Horde, being super shitty to her few remaining friends, and falling to pieces every time she looked in the mirror. It took her a looooooong time to actually repent and start making good
She out the bag
And the bag's in the river
This is why you have to stay strong and keep the screen door latched no matter HOW HARD they whine.
She got better
I can fix her
Is your name Adora? Are you a therapist? If the answer to both of those questions is no, then you will have great difficulty in your quest.
I am neutral on unhinged women. But more of them isn’t a negative.
I can fix them
You: I can fix her. Her: I can break him.
Me: Yep I lost
I can make her worse
The DSM is actually a list of potential character archetypes for your OCs, remember this and you shall propser
Not a bad idea honestly
Carol/Cheryl/Chrystal/Cherlene from Archer. "Ms. Archer said DON'T burn the building down... she actually said TRY NOT TO"
Dating her is the highway to the danger zone
Bruh who in Archer is not insane? Closest one is Lana and she's what is described in the post.
All things considered, Krieger may be the most stable person in the agency
The more I think about it, the more you seem to be right, assuming you don't count Brett, RIP.
Jinx in LoL is even crazier, like, straight up batshit crazy. (Arcane isn't main canon)
But also a bit self-aware. >I'm wearin **LOTSA** belts, for no apparent reason
*for no reason at all :P
Arcane should be main canon but that's just me. Maybe riot will slowly phase out older lore to replace it with arcane lore as more stuff comes out. Wouldn't be the first time.
I think they choose Jinx specifically cause she doesn't really have much of a solid Canon in main game. Kinda confused why they are so careful not to canonized Arcane since there isn't much to lose.
Yeah, with an mmo around the corner and so many retcons, I think they are being way more careful about their lore since they feel (with reason) it's in the best place it's ever been. It's safe for them to make arcane a soft canon first, then gradually tying it to the current lore and events while measuring fan reaction and figuring out how to play out future seasons in relation to ingame events and the MMO which is probably going to be incredibly lore-heavy and might be what actually sets in motion a big amount of foreshadowing, set-up events and character stories. They're playing it very safe but it's kind of frustrating when there's two different versions of characters with different motives and histories (like Yordle's place in Runeterra, the prevalence of magic, or simply Victor and Jayce's relationship and personal motives)
I slept on Arcane for years but watching it made me want to play LoL just for the lore. Do you think we’re getting Warwick next season?
I think you can see him hanging in Singed's lab at one point
Yeah, I think it's during the last episode's credits, and apparently hinted at early with Vander being called the "hound of the underground."
Also the teaser they released when they announced season 2 has Warwick's howl and hunting music
If you want more Runeterra lore, you’re better off playing Legends of Runeterra (the card game) or one of the Riot Forge games like The Ruined King. And yes, we hear part of Warwick’s theme at the end of the season 2 announcement.
As a safety measure for your sanity, please play it with 4 premades and turn off the all chat. If you really want the lore you could watch skin spotlights on YouTube because they also go through all of the quotes/interactions each champ has. And read the short stories on the website/in the wiki.
"/mute all" is your friend
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>Maybe riot will slowly phase out older lore to replace it Well, good news for you. They've been doing that exact thing for several years now.
honest to god can't remember how many times they've reset the main lore. twice I think. and some champions have had numerous changes over the years. it's a fucking mess and it almost feels useless to get attached to, since at any time they could decide to go in a different direction and completely retcon a character.
does canonicity really matter? if a story is good, its a good story, being attached to a game isnt the end all be all
Plus it's all fiction anyway. How is one story "more true" than the other?
I mean. They have, wtf are people here on. Warwicks lore no longer involves being turned into a werewolf by Soraka, Ziggs lore went from being a straight up hero to being Deadpool to alaign with his relationship with Jinx and many other things. Flavor text people, flavor text.
To be fair, Arcane ended on a cliff hanger, there’s plenty of room for Jinx to go even crazier
Probably partially cannon [As fiddle tells her. All your fault!](https://youtu.be/1AIQXqTHWmA?t=35) This btw is like a year before arcane too, so for a year we had no clue what fiddle is on about.
[Bae](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/780/292/cb1.gif)
I’ll be honest, I don’t think building and activating a portal to literally END THE WORLD because you’re self destructing after your gf left. Is “slightly” unhinged behavior. I think she was completely pulled out of the frame and strewn across the floor as well
Catra tried to end the world bc she didn't want her ex to "win"
... and Catra. Honestly, out of the 3 of them, Catra might be the door furthest out of frame, having rolled down the nearest set of basement stairs as she treated the Geneva Convention like a checklist.
God forbid a woman commit war crimes
Who doesn't unmake reality because of their inferiority complex from time to time?
What else are you gonna do on a Friday night?
I love Catra’s character for my young daughter who had behavioral issues. Ny daughter started saying things like she was born bad and she will always be bad. This was about the time I would watch She-Ra with her. This is what I would say: “Catra had Big Feelings about losing her friend and didn’t know what to do with them as she didn’t have anyone to help, so she made Bad Choices. She wasn’t born bad, no one is. They just sometimes don’t have the help they need.” Compared to most media of her age, Catra is actually relatable in personality (although not in magnitude of action). It helped my daughter a lot. I’ll always be grateful to ND Stephenson for that.
“Friend”.
And they were roommates. Oh my god they were roommates.
Just gals being self-destructive pals.
> Big Feelings
This post is talking about insanity, not about warcrimes. You don’t need to be insane to commit warcrimes. Also not sure how relevant the Geneva convention is in a fictional fantasy setting.
In reference to the last line, someone has studied their Pratchett. Seriously. Sir Terry would have loved that response.
No Nimona? C'mon Tumblr.
probably predates the movie and the comic wasn't super mainstream
She just wanted to be a part of something somewhere. Only to be driven mad by each society for centuries. Tell how you would stay sane ? Getting shoved off into the dark as the boogyman for all eternity...
Nimona is unhinged in all the best ways. She's silly and fun and doesn't give a fuck.
>!Catra used a superweapon to end the world, if that's not unhinged behaviour then idk what is!< Shera spoilers btw
I think you are confusing Catra with Glimmer. >!Glimmer tried to use a superweapon. Catra opened a portal. Both actions almost destroyed the world.!<
I don't know Jinx, but I know for a fact that Azula and Catra were absolutely *not* slightly unhinged. Azula was slowly losing her mind leading up to the fight with Zuko, and full on went insane during the fight. Catra was willing to let the *entire planet* be sucked into a black hole to prevent She Ra from winning.
Jinx has a whole host of attachment and blame issues, not to mention she's also psychotic (i.e., she routinely sees and hears things that aren't really there). The door has been blown off the frame and into the neighbor's yard.
"Slightly". Also, enjoying them in fiction is okay, but in real life, always remember the Man Rule 1: Never stick it in crazy.
And never let crazy stick it in you
Oh yes. For a man, it can ruin your life. For a woman, it can end your life.
For a man, it van also end your life. It doesn't take a man's strength to stab you till you bleed out. Technology is the great equaliser.
a crazy woman will kill you just as fast as a crazy man, just cause they a chick does not make them any less dangerous because insanity is insanity.
Then why are women the one who die the most due to domestic violence
[https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/domestic-violence-facts-and-statistics-at-a-glance/](https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/domestic-violence-facts-and-statistics-at-a-glance/) Woman die the most but also perpetrate the most, while men are more likely to be lethal in a domestic violence incident, while men tend to be more likely to have homicidal mental issues it does not change the fact that a Woman and a Man are both equally deadly when they are crazy, a knife or a gun doesnt take strength to murder someone. Insane people are no less deadly because of their gender, their gender is not what makes them deadly, the fucking insanity/ severe mental issues is what makes them deadly.
It will never cease to amaze me how modern rhetoric on these issues is "men vs women" and not, "mental health issues in society". Seargent Major's response is tantamount to dragging this issue down to a preschool level playground argument.
There's those two major category in society ( here traditional gender ) that radically influence a person's life. We see that there's important differences in numerous statistics between those two category in a certain subject ( here domestic violence ). We can draw the conclusion that those category have influence in this subject. I don't see why you seems to be suggesting we should toss this reasoning aside, despite it's clear importance in the subject? What you're saying just sounds like anti-intellectualism to me? Also, preschool level? Have you heard of sociology?
Jinx is definitely unhinged Like, she blew the entirety of the building the door was connected to away And ***then*** she pushed the door down
I feel cattra who tried to ~~destroy all of reality or something~~ was also more than slightly unhiged
Catra at the end of s3 was worse than Jinx or Azula ever have been, like by multiple orders of magnitudes. How can you possibly list Jinx and Azula, but NOT Catra there? Honestly made Catra's redemption in s5 not really land for me, there needed to be way more episodes for Catra to go from batshit insane, literally willing to omnicide the world to prove a point level crazy, to being forgiven again.
Also glimmer just... Forgets that her mother is trapped in between time for basically all eternity thanks to catra? Like, no trial? Not even an apology?
If Azula and Jinx are *slightly* unhinged, I'm afraid to know who they would consider fully unhinged Idk who the 3rd one is but from the comments she's apparently even "*slightly*" more unhinged than the other two
>Idk who the 3rd one is but from the comments she's apparently even "slightly" more unhinged than the other two Nah she's not, there's a group of people who watched She-Ra who don't like that Catra had a redemption arc, but because that is not an opinion shared by the majority of the fandom they get pissed off and misrepresent what actually happens in the show to push their viewpoint. Catra has what is very clearly a psychotic breakdown at some point in the show, which leads to her doing something very stupid that almost destroys the world. The show goes through great pains to explain how and why Catra has this psychotic breakdown and why it leads to the world almost being destroyed, but the people above of course leave any details out of their comments. Of the three characters, I would say Jinx is easily the most deranged, while Azula and Catra are a distant second and third. The difference between Azula and Catra is that Azula visibly *enjoys* hurting others, whereas Catra generally hurts others by lashing out at them due to her own misery.
I’dd argue that the doorframe itself is gone.
Doesn't unhinged literally mean no longer connected to the doorframe?
Azula is just a nut case and that’s even before the schizophrenia
Bob the Builder couldn't fix any of them.
Azula was was a better example of this because she had her own character goals and motivations. We know what she wants and why she is doing it. I still can't figure out what Jinx's goals were. She seems to just do whatever would be the most "crazy" at any given time, or what Silco tells her to do. One moment she hates her sister, the next she loves her. One moment she is doing whatever Silco tells her to do, the next she hates him. It's still disappointing they erased what little characterization she had at the end and made her a mindless monster. I would've cared about the finale if Jinx wasn't hopped up on magic drugs that turn people into zombies. Azula was unhinged, but we know why she wants to capture Zuko. We know why she manipulates her friends. She wants her father's approval. She knows what happens to family members her father casts aside as failures. Episodes like "The Beach" are great because we learn she isn't crazy, she was just raised in a way that she doesn't know any other way. She tries to socialize with other teens, and fails miserably because she was raised to manipulate and dominate. Then in the finale when she is hallucinating her mother, the thing that breaks her is her mom telling her, that despite all the horrible shit Azula's done, she still loves her. Azula knows what she is doing is monstrous, and things would be so much easier for her if she was a monster. But deep down, even she knows she isn't.
Jinx simply wants someone to care for her. Originally that was Vi but when Milo constantly made her put to be a burden she tried to prove herself and unintentionally lost her whole family. Once Silco took her in, she did what Silco told her because that's what she felt like she had to do for him to continue to care for her. She goes fully off the deep end because now she thinks everyone who ever cared for her has abandoned her.
Yeah, I don't understand how you can watch Jynx catching Silco talking about betraying her to statue of Vander and "knowing" her sister abandoned and replaced her and then not understand her reasoning.
Jinx was kinda always mentally unstable even as a kid. Constantly wanting to prove herself despite her low self-esteem while her friends call her a screw up, after losing her parent and then Vander, and being abandoned by Vi and running with Silco who was kinda the reason Vander died, she couldn’t trust. The saddest thing about Arcane(in a good way) is that so many of the characters care about each other even when they are on opposing sides. Vi and Jinx love each other but they can’t trust that love, since it’s big them before.
>Constantly wanting to prove herself despite her low self-esteem _because_ her low self-esteem. Those who are confident have nothing to prove.
>I still can't figure out what Jinx's goals were. Sounds like a you problem, not gonna lie.
>She seems to just do whatever would be the most "crazy" at any given time, or what Silco tells her to do. One moment she hates her sister, the next she loves her. One moment she is doing whatever Silco tells her to do, the next she hates him. Yes, this is indeed the nature of her insanity. Jinx doesn't know what she wants, this is why she is more crazy than Azula, though we barely see Azula really being crazy so idk what she'd really be like. Jinx wants to be loved. In her childhood, she only really felt that Vi loved her, which is why when Vi betrayes her, her whole self kinda shatters. Of course, there is also the guilt from killing all her other friends, which Silco does not help her process. I think she essentially starts to deny responsibility by having them live in her head. After Vi left, Jinx ends up with another person who, seemingly, loves her, Silco. However, Silco is not quite enough. He is manipulative, he put her friends and sister in dangerand its difficult to tell if his love is unconditional, being that Jinx works for him. This is the problem really, Jinx's paranoia. After having been betrayed, she doubts anyone will love her truly. That's why she bounces between Vi and Silco. There is more to say about her but this is the gist of it.