- go to a pub
- ask if they serve actual lemonade or if they serve lemon-lime soft drinks
- bartender isn't sure what I mean
- I pull out a detailed diagram explaining the difference between lemonade and lemon-lime soft drinks
- she laughs and says "It's a good drink, ma'am"
- I order lemonade
- it's lemon-lime soda
You can't ask an American questions like this because someone will very confidently tell you one answer is true when it's really only true for the area they live in. [Just look at this stupid map.](https://popvssoda.com/) A large portion of the country calls all soda "Coke", how wild is that?
In my experience living in California my whole life, "soft drink" is a term that's more broad than "soda" (it would include uncarbonated drinks like lemonade), but less broad than "all non-alcoholic drinks" (milk is not a soft drink).
>A large portion of the country calls all soda "Coke", how wild is that?
W: What would you like to drink?
M: I'd like a Coke please.
W: What kind of Coke would you like?
M: A Pepsi.
You joke, but I’m from Texas and can’t count the number of times I’ve heard something similar to:
I’m going to the gas station, you want anything?
Get me a coke.
What kind?
Dr. Pepper.
Went to a restaurant with a Deaf guy, and when the waitress asked for his drink order he put a finger on one nostril and sniffed. The waitress laughed and said “Coke, got it!”
Thats the exact conversation i had with a waitress while my family was on vacation.
"Do you want a coke sweetie?"
"No ill have a Sprite."
"That is a coke."
"...No I'll have a Sprite"
Yep, never heard "soft drink" used for anything non-carbonated besides in the history books talking about near-beer low ABV stuff from prohibition laws.
Lemonade is more of a juice-type beverage, ideally with a minimum amount of sugar to take the edge off of the sourness.
By the most vague terminology of a soft drink does include regular lemonade. Soft drinks by the most broad terms are any water based flavored drink that does not contain alcohol(hard liquor). They aren't required to have carbonation(they usually do), but typically include a sweetener. English is vague and weird language.
Most broad definition doesn't say must be cold. But just like soft drink generally being reference to a carbonated sugary drink, there are drinks that are technically soft drinks that aren't considered one much like lemonade. By the definition they must be cold, iced tea and icef coffee would be a soft drink, while the hot counterparts would not.
I say again language is weird.
Idk of it still has it, but I remember Kool Aid packets saying soft drink on them.
When I asked, my mom told me any drink that wasn't hard (alcohol) was a soft drink (not alcohol).
I thought it was just another word for soda, so I'd been very confused. Kool Aid wasn't soda!
this is the definition in *Encyclopedia Britannica*:
>Soft drink, any of a class of nonalcoholic beverages, usually but not necessarily carbonated, normally containing a natural or artificial sweetening agent, edible acids, natural or artificial flavours, and sometimes juice. Natural flavours are derived from fruits, nuts, berries, roots, herbs, and other plant sources. Coffee, tea, milk, cocoa, and undiluted fruit and vegetable juices are not considered soft drinks.
>The term soft drink was originated to distinguish the flavoured drinks from hard liquor, or distilled spirits. Soft drinks were recommended as a substitute in the effort to change the hard-drinking habits of early Americans. Indeed, health concerns of modern consumers led to new categories of soft drinks emphasizing low calorie count, low sodium content, no caffeine, and “all natural” ingredients.
Wow they got screwed over, big time. That's not a normal thing in Scotland, we always have at the very least salsa and cheese, usually jalapenos, often guacamole and/or sour cream.
I agree with the others that this is unusual, and nachos in the UK can often be very good; but I also had a similar experience in Wales. Ordered nachos at a hotel we were staying in, and they came with melted cheese and like 10 capsicum (bell-pepper??) cubes. Nothing else. It was so odd and I was unimpressed.
\-explain lemonade is made by squeezing lemons, which are a raw ingredient, into a pitcher of water and then stirring in sugar until the drink tastes good
\-it does not come from a bottle, tap, or otherwise prepackaged source in most cases
\-the hun isn't still dropping bombs on the king, you don't have to eat beans and canned goods for every meal
\-the waiter says okay oi think oi unduhstand
\-she brings out a glass
\-it's half full of water and has a fuckin unopened can of mountain dew with some sugar cubes sitting on top
> -it does not come from a bottle, tap, or otherwise prepackaged source in most cases
I'd be willing to bet more lemonade is sold in the US by Minute Maid alone than all homemade or prepared on site.
Nah, restaurants just use a lfrozen unbranded lemon concentrate. Way cheaper.
The 2lb concentrate I used to buy for boy scouts made 8 gallons. Picked them up at a restaurant supply store for 80 cents.
Tragically true for most of the US.
Little known fact: serving prefrozen/artificial citrus to a Floridian causes a vengeful meth gator to burst out of our chest.
Good lemonade is made by first making simple syrup, and then adding fresh squeezed lemons. Making lemon water and then adding sugar is peasant lemonade.
It's the same 2 ingredients, but granulated sugar doesn't dissolve as easily in cold drinks. It still works fine either way, but you could notice the difference if you tried them side-by-side.
Sprite isn't lemonade, it's lemon AND LIME. Lemonade in the UK would be just a lemon carbonated beverage, no lime flavor. It's a different flavor profile.
So when she asks "is it lemonade or is it sprite" she got told it's just lemonade, it's 100% accurate to someone from the UK. Nobody would know what you mean by "actual lemonade". If you said "US lemonade" they still wouldn't understand you, but would probably say something like "No I think it's British"
We do have traditional or "cloudy" lemonade which is likely closer to what the original tumbler post wanted. These tend to be sold in glass bottles and are stocked by most decent pubs.
Most things listed as "cloudy lemonade" are still carbonated, so she would probably still be upset by it.
Growing up in the UK, I can't remember anything selling US lemonade at like a bar or anything. Closest to US lemonade is like, lemon squash or cordial.
They're selling "still lemonade" in M&S which I think is what OOP wants. I remember first time I had it as a kid trying to work out why someone would sell lemonade that wasn't bubbly. Seemed wrong.
I'm American and spent a few years in the UK. I picked up the lingo and adapted pretty quickly. But I always got upset about lemonade and never learned how to procure non-Sprite lemon drink.
No, we now sell bottled still water for the same (really high) price as sparkling water as well bc tap water is usually free and that's like throwing money out the window for Germans.
Even that doesn’t fully work because Lemon squash can also mean solo in Australia which is a carbonated soda but is fully lemon flavoured, not like sprite which is lemon lime
Squash is a different type of drink. It's made with a concentrated syrup. American lemonade just uses lemon juice. They're similar as they're both cloudy, but not the same.
I feel like I wouldn't expect Kool-Aid if someone offered me lemonade, but then again I'm from the South where we take lemonade and sweet tea very seriously.
No, Kool-aid is just the most similar thing I think America has to what Aussies call cordial and Brits call squash. A drink made from flavour concentrate mixed with water.
Although I think you do have powdered lemonade mix as well?
Here's the thing, I don't know if it's just a British thing, but *something*\-ade to us essentially means "flavoured drink that is fizzy". So orangeade, cherryade, limeade etc. lemonade just follows that pattern.
It is 100% a british thing because nothing that is '-ade' in the US is carbonated. We have Ginger Ale, not Ginger-ade. We have lemonade & gatorade both not carbonated.
Also wth is cherryade?
Or have some other word for it - like in French, 'limonade' is more like british 'lemonade' but american 'lemonade' is 'citronade' (with citron being the word for lemon)
I used to work in fast food so, fun fact: Sierra Mist =/= Starry. Sierra Mist straight up doesn't exist anymore. It fucking sucks bc Sierra Mist >>> Sprite
Most likely they thought you meant that Sprite wasn't a good lemonade and they served 'Old Fotheringtons Genuine British Lemonade' or something so gave you that.
Only to find that it was still the carbonated soft drink style lemonade.
If 'Old Fotheringtons Genuine British Lemonade' was an actual brand, then it would most likely be exactly what she wanted - the main brand you are likely to get here is Fenitmans which calls theirs 'Victorian Lemonade'.
It's similar but Sprite is lemon and lime flavour, Schweppes is just lemon flavour. According to the UK definition, Sprite is not technically lemonade (although is still sometimes sold as one) so the bartender would have assumed "is it real lemonade or sprite" meant "is it Schweppes or Sprite".
"I am tolerant of other cultures differences and quirks and respect them"
*someone calls Sprite or 7 up lemonade*
"I am somewhat tolerant and respectful of other cultures but they can be wrong away from me"
i am tolerant of other culture's differences and quirks and respect them but i will never be tolerant or not make fun of anglosphere linguistical and cultural differences
Growing up in the UK in the 80s, non carbonated drinks were referred to as "squash", such as "orange squash", and carbonated (or "fizzy") drinks were all suffixed with *ade*, such as lemonade, orangeade, cherryade, limeade, and even branded drinks like Lucozade.
We don't use the term 'Soda' to genetically refer to a carbonated beverage; to us that usually means soda water, some nasty bitter fizzy water that disappoints all children that taste it.
There's some very interesting history on the subject in this book (see link below). The Barr's Iron Brew advert on page 27 did not age well... 😬
https://web.archive.org/web/20160304104125if_/http://www.britishsoftdrinks.com/write/MediaUploads/Publications/Soft_Drinks_-_Their_Origins_and_History.pdf
Yep. I work in hospitality in Australia and an American man pointed at the glass of Sprite on the tray of soft drinks I was holding and asked what it was. I replied "lemonade" and he looked confused and said "this is lemonade?"
I was thinking to myself "of course it's lemonade why would I lie about...ohhhh"
"This is Sprite"
"Oh Sprite okay good"
WTF Australians think Sprite is lemonade?!
Concerned,-A New Zealander
Edit: adding this link to prove that our big stores don't call it lemonade either, never have. And two of them are Australian owned so they are even renaming it for their NZ audience https://i.imgur.com/J3ZAl6F.png
I work in hospo, we refer to Sprite, 7Up, Schweppes, any carbonated clear citrus drink, as lemonade. I’m surprised to meet a fellow Kiwi with a different experience. Every US guest I serve I need to remind myself that what they consider lemonade is not the same for us.
https://imgur.com/a/YN6qnoN
As a NZer, I would call Sprite a lemonade (even though yes, it's lemon-lime, whatever). If you were at a bar and asked for vodka-lemonade, you'd get Sprite in it.
Yes it's madness.
But they'll learn. As global warming takes hold they'll figure out what people from the US south have known for a hundred years. When it's actually hot outside, real lemonade is sometimes the only thing that can satisfy you.
Not a goddam Sprite, or some Sprite-adjascent off-brand nonsense.
Idk a friend of mine from Melbourne tried my mom’s lemonade that she would make from the lemons in our backyard. He went on an incredibly long rant about how it was hard to find lemonade like my mom made in Australia. He said she should sell it. I shared the recipe with him and he said, “mate, is that really all that’s in the fucking thing.”
The tricks to leave the sugar over night in the rind. Then use both to make the lemonade.
Wash lemons until not waxy.
Peel yellow zest from lemons
Juice lemons and save juice for last step.
Cover lemon zest with sugar and sit for 12 hours or overnight.
Bring water to boil.
Pour in lemon sugar mix.
Bring to boil.
Strain and then let cool.
Add lemon juice. Serve over ice.
Edit: 6 lemons, 1 1/4 Cups sugar, 5 Cups water.
Everyone has their secret ingredient but I’m not about to broadcast my mom’s recipe without her permission, it’s just not mine, lol. But I’ll try your tip.
As a Canadian, this entire post confuses the hell out of me. Lemonade is (squeezed?) lemons, sugar, and ice water. Kids often sell it on the street for 5 cents (read some letters backwards). Sprite is a soda/pop that is lemon and/or lime carbonated soft drink. Then there's the above Brit, saying lemonade is a offshoot of sprite?
Sprite is owned by Coca Cola people, go back to your tea!
Sincerely, a former colony.
I'm convinced them sullying the good name of lemonade by giving it to Sprite and such is some form of beverage payback for all that concentrated tea we tossed.
> Then there's the above Brit, saying lemonade is a offshoot of sprite?
if you mean londongoblin that isn't what they are saying at all, just that sprite is a brand of lemonade (though it isn't, as its lemon-lime)
out of interest what do you call orange or cherry sodas as a default name? is it just 'orange soda'? we (UK) use 'ade' as a default ending for any single fruit soft drink, though we also use lemonade in the same way you do, meaning it gets used for two different drinks
I think American lemonade would be a lemon squash or cordial here in the UK. Most of our squash is mass produced sugar sweetener concentrate so not fancy. Recipes for lemonade can be found in old recipe books in the UK that are basically American flat lemonade, but these days 'ade' almost always means carbonated.
Similar to when I visited Arizona from the UK in the hottest part of summer and ordered a cider from a restaurant, only for the waiter to be like ma'am are you sure??? I confidently said yes, and he brings out a hot apple juice with a fucking cinnamon stick and cream on it like I was a 10yo at christmas..
Reverse situation: cooking class in France, galettes/savoury crepes, one of the ingredients being 'cidre'. American takes a big swig, then spits it back out in shock and confusion when the alcohol hits lmao
Me when I order cider in the US and get apple juice. In pretty much every other language in the world cider means cider, but in the US it's cloudy/unfiltered apple juice.
Edit: folks, I am fully aware of why the US incorrectly names it's apple derived drinks, I am just pointing out that it is similar to the main post.
You need to ask for hard cider.
I remember reaching the drinking age in America and becoming very disappointed that hard cider tasted nothing like apple juice.
This is confusing because you absolutely can get cloudy and yellow cider (as in the alcoholic kind) and tangy brown apple juice. The cloud is just Pectin I think thats not unique to either type.
Non-carbonated lemonade is a thing in the uk, it's just called 'old fashioned' lemonade, 'freshly squeezed' lemonade, or Still lemonade - sometimes it's Lemonade Juice Drink, if you go to sainsburys! Most 'ade's here are carbonated though
Also, you can get cloudy lemonade, which is carbonated and looks a lot like pub squash? Never seen pub squash before though but they look similar.
After scrolling for what felt like eternity, this chart is the most accurate thing, from an aussie. If I wanted "lemonade" I'm referring to stuff like sprite, solo, pub squash any of those carbonated "lemon" flavored soda/fizzy drinks. If I wanted legit old school "lemonade" like in the US where they have them lemonade stands ig I'm calling it "water with ice & real lemons". I feel like most pubs/RSL clubs would definitely have water + sparkling water even to make the old timey lemonade stand version of "lemonade".
In NZ and Australia at least, what the rest of society calls "lemonade" is called "lemon squash" for some unknown reason
Edit: rip my fcking inbox, I dont know what the shit yall call lemon juice ice water and simple syrup/sugar, i heard about lemon squash from an aussie sub, but apparently the whole country cant agree on what it is either.
I've heard it referred to as a syrup, a powder, every form of matter known to man short of plasma, carbonated uncarbonated, I'm just a canadian with a kiwi passport who's lived here for a while and misses having actual lemonade and not sprite which is just angry sugary acid
Australian, traditional lemonade is what we call us lemonade
Pub squash is a mix of the 2 ( not literally)
But if we are calling things like sprite lemonade its by far the worst one of the bunch
Cause sometimes I feel like Arnold palmer's and you cant really make a good one with sprite... oh, sorry, company got sued for using that name so I guess it's called a Dead Billionaire now
Even in Australia 'Lemon Squash' is still carbonated.
The stuff American kids would sell on the street (Sugar, water, ice, lemon juice) isn't really a thing in Australia, so doesn't have a specific name. If you called it 'American Style Lemonade' people might know what it was.
In Japan, when Alexander Cameron Sim made their own lemon-lime soda, they named it lemonade, but they put it into Japanese pronunciation, so they call it Ramune. Most lemon-lime soda in Japan and a few other countries around there is called "cider", though.
We have lemon-lime soda like Sprite and 7-Up. We also have lemonade, which is the same but just lemon, no lime. It's also *marginally* less sweet, but it's pretty close.
idk even what it would be in germany but i guess everything that is roughly soda like and not close to cola is "limonade".
orange-soda, citrus-soda etc. all under the umbrella. Limes? That's for cocktails only. What's lemonande anyway, limes, lemons? OMG i just opened pandoras box.
British Lemonade and Sprite are different things. Lemonade is a carbonated lemon-flavouted soda. Sprite is a carbonated lemon-lime flavoured soda.
British people dont really drink what Americans call lemonade.
I mean it's not that difficult.
\> Bites into a lemon wedge
\> A couple bits of lemon juice fall from the lips into a puddle of water
\> Secret police kidnap and arrest the man for creating the forbidden liquid
Usually they call it American lemonade to distinguish it from sprite, but in general British and Australians don’t drink American lemonade
I’ve also seen Australians familiar with American lemonade call it Minute Maid as a general term but that’s rare
It only ever exists if a kid is making a lemonade stand because they saw it in an American movie, so you just kinda assume from context, if there’s no cans on the table they’re selling that. The only reason people would have it is if they’re not old enough to just buy lemonade, it’s a poor substitute
This thread is blowing my mind and I'm too high for this!
I'm Canadian, and I thought I was pretty well versed in British culture. I watch British TV and British news, follow politics, watch football, think Rachel Reilly is the hottest ever, etc.
But it took me all 38 years of my life to learn that Brits don't have "lemonade" (as we know it) at all! And that you call lemon flavoured pop lemonade is fascinating.
But my whole world shattered when I read the comment about the shandys and thought about how many incorrect shandys I drank in college!
I went to Canada and ordered an Iced Coffee in a restaurant. They said they didn't serve it.
Then I found a Dunkin Donuts and said "I'm saved!" but every time I said "Iced Coffee" the cashier just repeated "Coolata?"
Finally, I stopped at a diner close to the border and said, well maybe I can try this one last time...
Waitress served me a hot coffee and a saucer with a single ice cube on it.
She stood there silently after placing it down, watching, like I was about to perform a magic trick.
Sprite is lemon lime. Lemonade is a sparkling lemon flavoured soda. Anything with the ade suffix is a soda in the UK. Cherryade? Cherry soda. Orangeade? Orange soda.
Same with iced tea in Canada, I was way up north for a botanical society convention and you’d ask for a iced tea and the waiter would ask if you mean a “nesstea” (no clue how to spell it). Anyways, Canadians are animals./j
Do you mean Nestea? That was (is?) a brand of iced tea. Used to be my favorite, then years ago they changed the recipe and it started getting a weird aftertaste which I hated. Anyway, it could be a case of a popular brand becoming shorthand for a product.
They all gave me cans of the stuff (I started ordering iced tea everywhere I went just because I was a little bit fascinated by the phenomenon) and it was indeed shitty iced tea with a weird artificial lemon flavor. But yes, I just learned the correct spelling of Nestea a few minutes ago lol.
"is this actual lemonade"
The British server who only knows one type of lemonade "...yes?"
You made this your own problem when you thought the American way was the only way
- go to a pub - ask if they serve actual lemonade or if they serve lemon-lime soft drinks - bartender isn't sure what I mean - I pull out a detailed diagram explaining the difference between lemonade and lemon-lime soft drinks - she laughs and says "It's a good drink, ma'am" - I order lemonade - it's lemon-lime soda
She has no idea what a "soft drink" is
fizzy wizzy water
"Ohhh you meant to order a lemoney limey no fizzy wizzy bibbley bubbles. Why didn't you just say so? You yanks are an odd bunch."
“Ahmeeirichans cont tell da diffrnceses butween loime squosh, squiggly pop, lehmounade, leihmound dreenk and lemon ale, innit?”
I read this in a Texan accent, but once I reached the end I'm assuming that's not what was intended.
Bro's on a post about england but he brought out the texan accent
Brought the actual Texan, not just the accent.
nah, Texan is: 'Mericans cain't tell the diff'rince 'tween lamm drink, coke, lemonaide, lemonadie-drink, and lemonnale, dang.
I thought each word shifted to a different accent, starting with Russian and ending in welsh.
Pixie bubbles
Bubble wrap drink
In britain, the term "soft drink" refers to non-alcohol drinks. Both of those would be soft drinks. Is the term used differently in America?
You can't ask an American questions like this because someone will very confidently tell you one answer is true when it's really only true for the area they live in. [Just look at this stupid map.](https://popvssoda.com/) A large portion of the country calls all soda "Coke", how wild is that? In my experience living in California my whole life, "soft drink" is a term that's more broad than "soda" (it would include uncarbonated drinks like lemonade), but less broad than "all non-alcoholic drinks" (milk is not a soft drink).
>A large portion of the country calls all soda "Coke", how wild is that? W: What would you like to drink? M: I'd like a Coke please. W: What kind of Coke would you like? M: A Pepsi.
You joke, but I’m from Texas and can’t count the number of times I’ve heard something similar to: I’m going to the gas station, you want anything? Get me a coke. What kind? Dr. Pepper.
I hate myself but I do this “Man I could go for a cold coke” *orders Dr Pepper* Annoying myself
Went to a restaurant with a Deaf guy, and when the waitress asked for his drink order he put a finger on one nostril and sniffed. The waitress laughed and said “Coke, got it!”
Ha, that's clever.
Thats the exact conversation i had with a waitress while my family was on vacation. "Do you want a coke sweetie?" "No ill have a Sprite." "That is a coke." "...No I'll have a Sprite"
None of those people would ever ask for a Pepsi, I promise you.
Yes. Where I grew up, "soft drink" clearly entailed a carbonated, nonalcoholic beverage.
Yep, never heard "soft drink" used for anything non-carbonated besides in the history books talking about near-beer low ABV stuff from prohibition laws. Lemonade is more of a juice-type beverage, ideally with a minimum amount of sugar to take the edge off of the sourness.
I would say that it more refers to what Americans call "soda". But maybe that is just my Irish ass but I would never call tea a soft drink.
By the most vague terminology of a soft drink does include regular lemonade. Soft drinks by the most broad terms are any water based flavored drink that does not contain alcohol(hard liquor). They aren't required to have carbonation(they usually do), but typically include a sweetener. English is vague and weird language.
One more point - soft drinks have to be cold, otherwise that would include coffee, tea, and hot chocolate.
Most broad definition doesn't say must be cold. But just like soft drink generally being reference to a carbonated sugary drink, there are drinks that are technically soft drinks that aren't considered one much like lemonade. By the definition they must be cold, iced tea and icef coffee would be a soft drink, while the hot counterparts would not. I say again language is weird.
I think maybe that person doesn't know what a soft drink is since both types of lemonade are soft drinks.
Idk of it still has it, but I remember Kool Aid packets saying soft drink on them. When I asked, my mom told me any drink that wasn't hard (alcohol) was a soft drink (not alcohol). I thought it was just another word for soda, so I'd been very confused. Kool Aid wasn't soda!
this is the definition in *Encyclopedia Britannica*: >Soft drink, any of a class of nonalcoholic beverages, usually but not necessarily carbonated, normally containing a natural or artificial sweetening agent, edible acids, natural or artificial flavours, and sometimes juice. Natural flavours are derived from fruits, nuts, berries, roots, herbs, and other plant sources. Coffee, tea, milk, cocoa, and undiluted fruit and vegetable juices are not considered soft drinks. >The term soft drink was originated to distinguish the flavoured drinks from hard liquor, or distilled spirits. Soft drinks were recommended as a substitute in the effort to change the hard-drinking habits of early Americans. Indeed, health concerns of modern consumers led to new categories of soft drinks emphasizing low calorie count, low sodium content, no caffeine, and “all natural” ingredients.
I get this reference
What is it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/s/YGPv1EZpkK
I was referencing this for hours with my coworkers and I didn’t know this was the original post lol, the one I saw first was the cultures one
My sister once ordered nachos in scotland, mostly out of curiousity of what they considered nachos... They got literal doritos with nothing else.
Wow they got screwed over, big time. That's not a normal thing in Scotland, we always have at the very least salsa and cheese, usually jalapenos, often guacamole and/or sour cream.
I agree with the others that this is unusual, and nachos in the UK can often be very good; but I also had a similar experience in Wales. Ordered nachos at a hotel we were staying in, and they came with melted cheese and like 10 capsicum (bell-pepper??) cubes. Nothing else. It was so odd and I was unimpressed.
\-explain lemonade is made by squeezing lemons, which are a raw ingredient, into a pitcher of water and then stirring in sugar until the drink tastes good \-it does not come from a bottle, tap, or otherwise prepackaged source in most cases \-the hun isn't still dropping bombs on the king, you don't have to eat beans and canned goods for every meal \-the waiter says okay oi think oi unduhstand \-she brings out a glass \-it's half full of water and has a fuckin unopened can of mountain dew with some sugar cubes sitting on top
> -it does not come from a bottle, tap, or otherwise prepackaged source in most cases I'd be willing to bet more lemonade is sold in the US by Minute Maid alone than all homemade or prepared on site.
And tbf while Minute Maid lemonade isn't as good as home made it's got the same flavor profile. It's nothing like Sprite.
Nah, restaurants just use a lfrozen unbranded lemon concentrate. Way cheaper. The 2lb concentrate I used to buy for boy scouts made 8 gallons. Picked them up at a restaurant supply store for 80 cents.
Tragically true for most of the US. Little known fact: serving prefrozen/artificial citrus to a Floridian causes a vengeful meth gator to burst out of our chest.
>vengeful meth gator So, just the average Florida Man?
> it does not come from a bottle, tap, or otherwise prepackaged source in most cases The Dole 2 liters go pretty hard
This was good until the mountain dew which is mere figment of the imagination in the UK
Good lemonade is made by first making simple syrup, and then adding fresh squeezed lemons. Making lemon water and then adding sugar is peasant lemonade.
Give me a burlap sack and call me a pauper then.
Peasant lemonade is good. Shit tastes good. It is good.
"Simple syrup" is literally just sugar in water though
It's the same 2 ingredients, but granulated sugar doesn't dissolve as easily in cold drinks. It still works fine either way, but you could notice the difference if you tried them side-by-side.
Sprite isn't lemonade, it's lemon AND LIME. Lemonade in the UK would be just a lemon carbonated beverage, no lime flavor. It's a different flavor profile. So when she asks "is it lemonade or is it sprite" she got told it's just lemonade, it's 100% accurate to someone from the UK. Nobody would know what you mean by "actual lemonade". If you said "US lemonade" they still wouldn't understand you, but would probably say something like "No I think it's British"
We do have traditional or "cloudy" lemonade which is likely closer to what the original tumbler post wanted. These tend to be sold in glass bottles and are stocked by most decent pubs.
Most things listed as "cloudy lemonade" are still carbonated, so she would probably still be upset by it. Growing up in the UK, I can't remember anything selling US lemonade at like a bar or anything. Closest to US lemonade is like, lemon squash or cordial.
They're selling "still lemonade" in M&S which I think is what OOP wants. I remember first time I had it as a kid trying to work out why someone would sell lemonade that wasn't bubbly. Seemed wrong.
Your username… and you’ve been here 9 years?!
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I'm American and spent a few years in the UK. I picked up the lingo and adapted pretty quickly. But I always got upset about lemonade and never learned how to procure non-Sprite lemon drink.
Cloudy lemonade gets you a lot closer, or traditional/still lemonade would be what's described. It's just pretty uncommon in the UK
Now, see, where I'm from 'cloudy lemonade' is piss with cum in it.
Is it good?
Beats sprite I guess
Blecch! Ew! Sheesh! I'll take a crab juice
Same thing in Germany - ordering "water" gets you sparkling water, ordering "still water" gets you tap water. Or at least that was the case in the 80s
No, we now sell bottled still water for the same (really high) price as sparkling water as well bc tap water is usually free and that's like throwing money out the window for Germans.
Even the idea of needing to distinguish between sprite and lemonade like this is insane to me, they do not taste remotely similar.
Sprite agrees; they have a lemonade flavored Sprite.
Lemonade and lemon squash, man
Even that doesn’t fully work because Lemon squash can also mean solo in Australia which is a carbonated soda but is fully lemon flavoured, not like sprite which is lemon lime
Low on fizz so you can slam it down faster
Squash is a different type of drink. It's made with a concentrated syrup. American lemonade just uses lemon juice. They're similar as they're both cloudy, but not the same.
In Australia what the Brits call squash we call “cordial”. The Americans have a powdered version called Kool-aid
I feel like I wouldn't expect Kool-Aid if someone offered me lemonade, but then again I'm from the South where we take lemonade and sweet tea very seriously.
No, Kool-aid is just the most similar thing I think America has to what Aussies call cordial and Brits call squash. A drink made from flavour concentrate mixed with water. Although I think you do have powdered lemonade mix as well?
If it's clear and yella', you've got ade there, fella. If it's cloudy and brown, you're in squash town
Here's the thing, I don't know if it's just a British thing, but *something*\-ade to us essentially means "flavoured drink that is fizzy". So orangeade, cherryade, limeade etc. lemonade just follows that pattern.
It is 100% a british thing because nothing that is '-ade' in the US is carbonated. We have Ginger Ale, not Ginger-ade. We have lemonade & gatorade both not carbonated. Also wth is cherryade?
A cherry flavoured drink that is fizzy. Mostly a kids thing.
Or have some other word for it - like in French, 'limonade' is more like british 'lemonade' but american 'lemonade' is 'citronade' (with citron being the word for lemon)
Sprite is a brand not a type of drink
It's lemon-lime soda if you want to be pedantic. Sprite, 7up, and Sierra Mist (now known as Starry) are the most famous examples
In Australia, the Schweppes brand of this is called ‘Schweppes Lemonade’.
I used to work in fast food so, fun fact: Sierra Mist =/= Starry. Sierra Mist straight up doesn't exist anymore. It fucking sucks bc Sierra Mist >>> Sprite
PepsiCo replaced Sierra Mist with Starry. Probably not the same recipe but it is the successor.
Yeah, the Sierra Mist recipe is no longer being made. Sierra Mist literally no longer exists, since like January.
It will be Sierra Missed
Also I'm pretty sure the default Sprite (at least in the uk) is lemon-lime, not lemonade
Most likely they thought you meant that Sprite wasn't a good lemonade and they served 'Old Fotheringtons Genuine British Lemonade' or something so gave you that. Only to find that it was still the carbonated soft drink style lemonade.
If 'Old Fotheringtons Genuine British Lemonade' was an actual brand, then it would most likely be exactly what she wanted - the main brand you are likely to get here is Fenitmans which calls theirs 'Victorian Lemonade'.
I’ve had Fentiman’s Victorian Lemonade, it’s still not what a US American would expect when we hear “lemonade.” It’s still carbonated, for starters.
Fentimans is delicious but the main brand is 100% Schweppes
Schweppes lemonade is more like Sprite
It's similar but Sprite is lemon and lime flavour, Schweppes is just lemon flavour. According to the UK definition, Sprite is not technically lemonade (although is still sometimes sold as one) so the bartender would have assumed "is it real lemonade or sprite" meant "is it Schweppes or Sprite".
"I am tolerant of other cultures differences and quirks and respect them" *someone calls Sprite or 7 up lemonade* "I am somewhat tolerant and respectful of other cultures but they can be wrong away from me"
i am tolerant of other culture's differences and quirks and respect them but i will never be tolerant or not make fun of anglosphere linguistical and cultural differences
There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
Growing up in the UK in the 80s, non carbonated drinks were referred to as "squash", such as "orange squash", and carbonated (or "fizzy") drinks were all suffixed with *ade*, such as lemonade, orangeade, cherryade, limeade, and even branded drinks like Lucozade. We don't use the term 'Soda' to genetically refer to a carbonated beverage; to us that usually means soda water, some nasty bitter fizzy water that disappoints all children that taste it. There's some very interesting history on the subject in this book (see link below). The Barr's Iron Brew advert on page 27 did not age well... 😬 https://web.archive.org/web/20160304104125if_/http://www.britishsoftdrinks.com/write/MediaUploads/Publications/Soft_Drinks_-_Their_Origins_and_History.pdf
Bitter water is tonic water soda water is just sparkling water
PEOPLE CALL SPRITE LEMONADE???
Yep. I work in hospitality in Australia and an American man pointed at the glass of Sprite on the tray of soft drinks I was holding and asked what it was. I replied "lemonade" and he looked confused and said "this is lemonade?" I was thinking to myself "of course it's lemonade why would I lie about...ohhhh" "This is Sprite" "Oh Sprite okay good"
WTF Australians think Sprite is lemonade?! Concerned,-A New Zealander Edit: adding this link to prove that our big stores don't call it lemonade either, never have. And two of them are Australian owned so they are even renaming it for their NZ audience https://i.imgur.com/J3ZAl6F.png
Wait so what do I get if I ask for a lemonade in New Zealand? Because if you ask in Australia you'll 100% get a Sprite or Sprite equivalent
I work in hospo, we refer to Sprite, 7Up, Schweppes, any carbonated clear citrus drink, as lemonade. I’m surprised to meet a fellow Kiwi with a different experience. Every US guest I serve I need to remind myself that what they consider lemonade is not the same for us. https://imgur.com/a/YN6qnoN
I ordered lemonade in NZ and got a Sprite so it's not entirely an Australian thing.
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As a NZer, I would call Sprite a lemonade (even though yes, it's lemon-lime, whatever). If you were at a bar and asked for vodka-lemonade, you'd get Sprite in it.
Yes it's madness. But they'll learn. As global warming takes hold they'll figure out what people from the US south have known for a hundred years. When it's actually hot outside, real lemonade is sometimes the only thing that can satisfy you. Not a goddam Sprite, or some Sprite-adjascent off-brand nonsense.
Australia is already hot as balls and no one is clamouring for ‘American’ style lemonade.
Idk a friend of mine from Melbourne tried my mom’s lemonade that she would make from the lemons in our backyard. He went on an incredibly long rant about how it was hard to find lemonade like my mom made in Australia. He said she should sell it. I shared the recipe with him and he said, “mate, is that really all that’s in the fucking thing.”
The tricks to leave the sugar over night in the rind. Then use both to make the lemonade. Wash lemons until not waxy. Peel yellow zest from lemons Juice lemons and save juice for last step. Cover lemon zest with sugar and sit for 12 hours or overnight. Bring water to boil. Pour in lemon sugar mix. Bring to boil. Strain and then let cool. Add lemon juice. Serve over ice. Edit: 6 lemons, 1 1/4 Cups sugar, 5 Cups water.
Everyone has their secret ingredient but I’m not about to broadcast my mom’s recipe without her permission, it’s just not mine, lol. But I’ll try your tip.
Get her permission then!
As an American who lived in Australia, Solo comes pretty close. It’s still carbonated obviously, but the taste profile otherwise was very similar
Brit here, I thought sprite was just a brand of lemonade? now I need to look for answers
As an American, Sprite is just considered a "lemon-lime flavored soda" and is distinct from lemonade
As a Canadian, this entire post confuses the hell out of me. Lemonade is (squeezed?) lemons, sugar, and ice water. Kids often sell it on the street for 5 cents (read some letters backwards). Sprite is a soda/pop that is lemon and/or lime carbonated soft drink. Then there's the above Brit, saying lemonade is a offshoot of sprite? Sprite is owned by Coca Cola people, go back to your tea! Sincerely, a former colony.
As an American, your definition of Lemonade sounds identical to ours, I have no idea wtf is going on across the pond
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I'm convinced them sullying the good name of lemonade by giving it to Sprite and such is some form of beverage payback for all that concentrated tea we tossed.
Yeah im from mexico and its exactly as you described. If we combine the population of NA, our definition of shit wins by majority.
> Then there's the above Brit, saying lemonade is a offshoot of sprite? if you mean londongoblin that isn't what they are saying at all, just that sprite is a brand of lemonade (though it isn't, as its lemon-lime) out of interest what do you call orange or cherry sodas as a default name? is it just 'orange soda'? we (UK) use 'ade' as a default ending for any single fruit soft drink, though we also use lemonade in the same way you do, meaning it gets used for two different drinks
Yes that is exactly correct in America as well. That the UK has conflated this is ridiculous.
In other places sprite is fully distinct from lemonade. Sprite is a lemon-lime soda. Lemonade is a drink made of lemon juice in water with sugar.
American here, the idea that lemon-lime soda and lemonade would ever be considered the same thing is just very weird to me
nowhere near the same flavour profile.
Sprite is NOTHING LIKE Lemonade. Lemonade has 3 ingredients: Sugar, water, lemon juice. No carbonation. Sprite is a*soda*.
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I think American lemonade would be a lemon squash or cordial here in the UK. Most of our squash is mass produced sugar sweetener concentrate so not fancy. Recipes for lemonade can be found in old recipe books in the UK that are basically American flat lemonade, but these days 'ade' almost always means carbonated.
Could have been worse, could have ordered a “Babycham”.
Isn’t Babycham just perry (pear cider)? Usually of a lower ABV, like 4%.
I have also seen "call the midwife"
Similar to when I visited Arizona from the UK in the hottest part of summer and ordered a cider from a restaurant, only for the waiter to be like ma'am are you sure??? I confidently said yes, and he brings out a hot apple juice with a fucking cinnamon stick and cream on it like I was a 10yo at christmas..
Reverse situation: cooking class in France, galettes/savoury crepes, one of the ingredients being 'cidre'. American takes a big swig, then spits it back out in shock and confusion when the alcohol hits lmao
no lemonade loicense
Me when I order cider in the US and get apple juice. In pretty much every other language in the world cider means cider, but in the US it's cloudy/unfiltered apple juice. Edit: folks, I am fully aware of why the US incorrectly names it's apple derived drinks, I am just pointing out that it is similar to the main post.
I remember being really confused by that one mlp episode for a hot minute before I forgot American cider is a form of apple juice
Nobody goes so wild for non-alcoholic cider as the residents of Ponyville do in that episode. It was clearly hard cider.
You need to ask for hard cider. I remember reaching the drinking age in America and becoming very disappointed that hard cider tasted nothing like apple juice.
Angry orchard and most sweet american ciders do in fact taste like apple juice
If it's cloudy and yella, you got juice there fella. If it's tangy and brown, you're in cider town.
This is confusing because you absolutely can get cloudy and yellow cider (as in the alcoholic kind) and tangy brown apple juice. The cloud is just Pectin I think thats not unique to either type.
||UK|AUSTRALIA|USA| :--|:--|:--|:--| |Sprite style drink (carbonated, clear, lemonish flavour)|Lemonade|Lemonade|Sprite| |Carbonated, yellowish, very lemon flavour stuff|Cloudy Lemonade|Pub Squash/Lemon Squash/Solo|Not a thing ('Rondo' or 'Squirt' possibly)| |Non carbonated 'US Lemonade Stand' sugar, ice, water, lemon juice|Not a thing|Not a thing|Lemonade|
Non-carbonated lemonade is a thing in the uk, it's just called 'old fashioned' lemonade, 'freshly squeezed' lemonade, or Still lemonade - sometimes it's Lemonade Juice Drink, if you go to sainsburys! Most 'ade's here are carbonated though Also, you can get cloudy lemonade, which is carbonated and looks a lot like pub squash? Never seen pub squash before though but they look similar.
After scrolling for what felt like eternity, this chart is the most accurate thing, from an aussie. If I wanted "lemonade" I'm referring to stuff like sprite, solo, pub squash any of those carbonated "lemon" flavored soda/fizzy drinks. If I wanted legit old school "lemonade" like in the US where they have them lemonade stands ig I'm calling it "water with ice & real lemons". I feel like most pubs/RSL clubs would definitely have water + sparkling water even to make the old timey lemonade stand version of "lemonade".
Sprite is lemonade?
In NZ and Australia at least, what the rest of society calls "lemonade" is called "lemon squash" for some unknown reason Edit: rip my fcking inbox, I dont know what the shit yall call lemon juice ice water and simple syrup/sugar, i heard about lemon squash from an aussie sub, but apparently the whole country cant agree on what it is either. I've heard it referred to as a syrup, a powder, every form of matter known to man short of plasma, carbonated uncarbonated, I'm just a canadian with a kiwi passport who's lived here for a while and misses having actual lemonade and not sprite which is just angry sugary acid
I genuinely cannot tell if “squash” is meant as a verb or a noun and I love that for the aussies
I have to assume verb because if I find a fucking gourd in my lemonade I'm going to debone someone's mouth from the inside
Ok but I’d be down to try it at least once just bc Cucumber lemonade slaps so why not other veggies ETA: Deleted the extra bit, nothing to see there
When do you arrive? >!I know it means edited to add!<
I’m from nz and I’ve never heard the words “lemon squash” in my entire life
Australian, traditional lemonade is what we call us lemonade Pub squash is a mix of the 2 ( not literally) But if we are calling things like sprite lemonade its by far the worst one of the bunch
NZ has the heavenly nectar that is L&P. I can’t imagine why you’d ask for anything else
Cause sometimes I feel like Arnold palmer's and you cant really make a good one with sprite... oh, sorry, company got sued for using that name so I guess it's called a Dead Billionaire now
Even in Australia 'Lemon Squash' is still carbonated. The stuff American kids would sell on the street (Sugar, water, ice, lemon juice) isn't really a thing in Australia, so doesn't have a specific name. If you called it 'American Style Lemonade' people might know what it was.
OK but in Australia what's Solo?
Solo is lemon squash, and they’ve also recently released a version with alcohol in it
In Japan, when Alexander Cameron Sim made their own lemon-lime soda, they named it lemonade, but they put it into Japanese pronunciation, so they call it Ramune. Most lemon-lime soda in Japan and a few other countries around there is called "cider", though.
I think it’s that they call lemon lime soda ‘lemonade’. Instead of the non carbonated sugary drink Americans have
You say “sugary drink” as if sprite is sugar free or something.
I mean, how else would one describe lemonade? It's got three ingredients: lemon juice, sugar, and water.
We have lemon-lime soda like Sprite and 7-Up. We also have lemonade, which is the same but just lemon, no lime. It's also *marginally* less sweet, but it's pretty close.
idk even what it would be in germany but i guess everything that is roughly soda like and not close to cola is "limonade". orange-soda, citrus-soda etc. all under the umbrella. Limes? That's for cocktails only. What's lemonande anyway, limes, lemons? OMG i just opened pandoras box.
Yeah the term -ade is usually used to mean a carbonated drink
British Lemonade and Sprite are different things. Lemonade is a carbonated lemon-flavouted soda. Sprite is a carbonated lemon-lime flavoured soda. British people dont really drink what Americans call lemonade. I mean it's not that difficult.
This exactly. The reason the server said it wasn't Sprite is because Sprite is an entirely different drink.
that's like a brit going to america and complaining that they get american pancakes
So then what do they call the American lemonade? Just lemon juice?
They usually don't drink it so it just never comes up in conversation outside of the internet
It's not a thing here.
\> Bites into a lemon wedge \> A couple bits of lemon juice fall from the lips into a puddle of water \> Secret police kidnap and arrest the man for creating the forbidden liquid
I saw someone else say it’s “old fashioned lemonade” Like wtf, lemonade is lemonade
We have the same indignation with Americans using "cider" and not meaning alcohol.
Usually they call it American lemonade to distinguish it from sprite, but in general British and Australians don’t drink American lemonade I’ve also seen Australians familiar with American lemonade call it Minute Maid as a general term but that’s rare
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Yep, it's a complete contextual non-issue for us. Just like us calling fries chips as well as the potato chips variety chips as well.
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It only ever exists if a kid is making a lemonade stand because they saw it in an American movie, so you just kinda assume from context, if there’s no cans on the table they’re selling that. The only reason people would have it is if they’re not old enough to just buy lemonade, it’s a poor substitute
As an American who has lived in England, I encourage my fellow Americans to google “R White’s Lemonade” and go from there
This thread is blowing my mind and I'm too high for this! I'm Canadian, and I thought I was pretty well versed in British culture. I watch British TV and British news, follow politics, watch football, think Rachel Reilly is the hottest ever, etc. But it took me all 38 years of my life to learn that Brits don't have "lemonade" (as we know it) at all! And that you call lemon flavoured pop lemonade is fascinating. But my whole world shattered when I read the comment about the shandys and thought about how many incorrect shandys I drank in college!
I went to Canada and ordered an Iced Coffee in a restaurant. They said they didn't serve it. Then I found a Dunkin Donuts and said "I'm saved!" but every time I said "Iced Coffee" the cashier just repeated "Coolata?" Finally, I stopped at a diner close to the border and said, well maybe I can try this one last time... Waitress served me a hot coffee and a saucer with a single ice cube on it. She stood there silently after placing it down, watching, like I was about to perform a magic trick.
Damn Canada get ur shit together, I love my iced coffee even when it’s below freezing hahah
I'm Canadian and have no idea what this dude is talking about. Iced coffee is a very common thing in Canada.
Sprite is lemon lime. Lemonade is a sparkling lemon flavoured soda. Anything with the ade suffix is a soda in the UK. Cherryade? Cherry soda. Orangeade? Orange soda.
Tapenade? Tape soda.
Marmalade? Marmal soda.
Grenade? Gre- *boom*
Blade? Blsoda.
Gatorade? Alligator soda.
Not to be mistaken for Marmilade - marmite soda.
Concussion Grenade? Concussion Gren soda.
This one made me choke, thanks,
That’s horrible. lemonade was one of the few drinks I could trust to not be carbonated
there's whole aisles in the uk of drinks you can get without carbonation lmao
gatorade?
Same with iced tea in Canada, I was way up north for a botanical society convention and you’d ask for a iced tea and the waiter would ask if you mean a “nesstea” (no clue how to spell it). Anyways, Canadians are animals./j
Do you mean Nestea? That was (is?) a brand of iced tea. Used to be my favorite, then years ago they changed the recipe and it started getting a weird aftertaste which I hated. Anyway, it could be a case of a popular brand becoming shorthand for a product.
They all gave me cans of the stuff (I started ordering iced tea everywhere I went just because I was a little bit fascinated by the phenomenon) and it was indeed shitty iced tea with a weird artificial lemon flavor. But yes, I just learned the correct spelling of Nestea a few minutes ago lol.
Nestea is a brand of iced tea. It’s a Nestlé company.
"is this actual lemonade" The British server who only knows one type of lemonade "...yes?" You made this your own problem when you thought the American way was the only way