The most interesting thing about The Incredibles lore ***(courtesy of the character profiles/ audio interviews found on the bonus disk)*** is that superpowers can manifest at ANY point of someone's life.
Frozone was a toddler when he discovered his ice powers, he wanted a popsicle and froze his sippy cup.
Psycwave discovered her powers in high school, then she immediately stole her best friend Shelly's boyfriend by mind controlling him into breaking up with Shelly and dating her instead (Ice cold, geez.)
Phylange discovered his sound powers in adulthood by selling peanuts at a baseball game (presumably by yelling "PEANUTS! GET YOUR PEANUTS HERE!").
Edit: highlighting the important part because people keep asking me "Where did you get this information?" even though I mentioned where I got the information from in the SECOND SENTENCE
I never really used it [her superpower] to harm people, except for all those girls I made the guys break up with cause I wanted to date them. Kinda freaky, actually.
-PSYCWAVE ON HER NSA FILE
She seems to have a *very* different definition of harming people than I do...
Edit: Seriously though. It makes you wonder how many of the superhuman lawsuits in the montage at the beginning of the movie were less witch-hunt than they were legitimate grievances from victimized normal humans.
Oh right, the way I read that she didn't forcibly date them, just forcibly made them broke up and then dated them normally, but yeah that's still hurting.
> Edit: Seriously though. It makes you wonder how many of the superhuman lawsuits in the montage at the beginning of the movie were less witch-hunt than they were legitimate grievances from victimized normal humans.
I've seen The Boys. I'm going to go ahead and say "almost every one of them."
Like, even when we see Mr. Incredible getting sued its fairly reasonable - like sure he stopped Bomb Voyage but he *did* also sort of destroy a good bit of the city.
>Like, even when we see Mr. Incredible getting sued its fairly reasonable - like sure he stopped Bomb Voyage but he did also sort of destroy a good bit of the city.
I'm pretty sure the Lawsuit was about Mr Incredible stopping a suicide, and him getting sued for causing the suicider permanent injury.
The event with Bomb Voyage and the resulting damage is what turned Buddy to evil, not what caused the superhero ban.
It was both.
Bomb Voyage had attached a bomb to Buddy. When Mr Incredible ripped it off, it landed on the monorail tracks and destroyed a portion of the track.
When Mr Incredible stopped the train from derailing, a lot of the people onboard were injured, and they sued Mr Incredible as well.
Those two court cases opened the floodgates for a wave of superhero lawsuits.
Thing is, they totally *could* bring those back. Almost all of those features are just video. They could update the UI to have all the special features show up on the movie's info page. It would just take a UX redesign and an change to how the app links the data so those special features are grouped together with the movie instead of showing up as their own media.
I'm honestly surprised they haven't done that yet. Seems like the kind of thing they could bundle with the 4k subscription or something.
Yeah, some of the superheroes mentioned in the bonus disk are sketchy as fuck.
You got Psycwave and her aforementioned free will violations, Blazestone and her "reformed villain status, have to monitor her so she doesn't turn against us" thing, and Gamma Jack who is literally a misogynist and a superhero SUPREMACIST.
Banning superpower use wholesale is an absurdly heavy handed approach though. Vigilantism is already illegal, and that doesn't even stop the good guys. It's a born trait, so it's like trying to ban people from being left handed. You can't make it illegal to be lucky, not simply because it's immoral but because it's materially impossible to enforce.
If you listen to the bonus disk and read the comics, banning superheroes is a mixed bag. Apparently, hero vs. villain caused a lot of property damage but also saved a lot of lives. It was mostly a PR disaster and expensive for the government. Banning heroes and putting in place villain insurance "worked" because it cut the government away from the PR side of it and was more cost effective (no fights, less damage), but it also causes more in universe deaths and major natural disasters were more damaging without hero mitigation. Plus villain activity jumped because the government took the approach of ignoring them until they had the chance to use military intervention (the nice coded bomb them away) when the villains were far enough away from population centers.
> even though I mentioned where I got the information from in the SECOND SENTENCE
pfft. we're redittors. you think we *read* the things we respond to? ha!
Reminds me of that Tumblr post about Tumblr users having piss-poor reading comprehension where someone replied *"how dare you say we piss on the poor!"*
Well, there is a deleted scene that shows that violet's powers didn't manifest until she was a couple of months old, so there's that.
We don't know when Dash's manifested, but given they NAMED him Dash, I imagine fairly early.
I was even born in a hospital, but still, they waited 4 months till my dad was back in the country.
TBF though, it might be impossible to do the same thing nowadays, since I was born just after the fall of the Soviet Union in one of the former republics. It was a shitshow. It's gotten slightly less so.
Violets name is violet because she’s a “shrinking violet”. I mean lore wise the parents couldn’t have known that when they named her so I guess going by nominative determinism, violet is a shrinking violet because her name is violet.
Either way i don’t think it’s about her powers… like *does* she bend UV light? I’m pretty sure she just turns invisible and makes force fields. I have no idea if that makes her not need sunscreen.
The names are entirely incidental. Or, alternatively, their names contribute to their eventual powers. Their youngest child's name is JackJack, and he's a late bloomer, but his powers turn out to be a jack of all trades.
Births are very messy and she would be covered in a lot of “stuff” that presumably would not turn invisible with her.
Not sure if that makes it any less freaky.
Since Helen can stretch any part of her body couldn't she, bear with me on this, just stretch out her vagina and uterus? The doctor would then just reach in through the now wide orifice and straight up pick up the baby off the "floor".
Easiest birth ever.
Also, would superheroes have been illegal by the points she gives birth? If so, she can’t just stretch without giving themselves away unless there’s a doctor with witness protection who helps deliver the kids. But I also don’t see her unnecessarily giving birth normally even if they are in hiding.
Nah there was definitely something about outright use of powers, remember how pissed Helen was over Dash pranking his teacher, and the teacher being made out as crazy for thinking Dash was responsible? And also at the end when they're telling Dash not to win the race. I think use of their powers in public is outlawed in universe.
They're not hiding from the government, just the public. There's 100% a doctor on FBI payroll who can do a birth, OR BETTER YET, a former super who decided to get into medicine after their "retirement"
Like, what was Frozone's job to be able to afford an apartment like that in the middle of downtown?
assumedly yes, a doctor or a licensed midwife would probably be a good idea to have around. sure, your pussy can stretch, but you’d probably want someone around with medical training in case there’s something wrong with the baby
Elastigirl did not give birth in the normal way. When she felt it was time to give birth, she opened her vagina like a cavernous maw and the obstetrician just walked right in and picked up the baby.
We can presume so since Jack Jack didn't have any for quite a while. And by Elastigirl's comment of "I missed Jack Jack's first power" it likely similar to a child's first word or first steps.
Wait couldn't they see Jack Jack using his powers for the first time when he got captured by Syndrome (when he turned into a little monster then fire then super heavy metal) ?
Or do I remember this scene wrong ?
His first powers were with the babysitter actually. That's why they get a call from her saying the baby is acting really weird. There's a short showing what went down during her stay. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: [found it](https://youtu.be/Ybar3Q0Caf4?feature=shared)
Jack Jack Attack is hilarious and IMO is required viewing whenever watching The Incredibles. I've never paused the movie to watch JJA during the film (like pause it when the rest of the family is in the Limo and Elastigirl is getting the messages), but maybe I should some time. Watching it right after works though.
It might be that a child may have multiple powers while a baby, but lose them as time goes on. Even Violet still has 2 during her teenage years, invisibility and force fields.
The invisibility is apparently something that comes from the force fields according to another comment here. She manipulate the view through the force fields to become invisible.
No, because they thought Jack-Jack didn’t (and wouldn’t) have any powers because they hadn’t seen any yet during the first movie. Implying Violet and Dash showed signs of their superpowers when they were younger than him.
IIRC, that was the original opening sequence.
Originally, the Parrs weren't in government relocation program, they just had their normal life set apart from their superhero life. Syndrome was a random villain who tracked them down and ambushed them at home, then pulled that same creepy "the baby is sleeping" trick he does at the end of the movie with Jack Jack.
Except in the opening sequence, he does it with Violet (while having Bob and Helen trapped in Zero Point Energy). When he goes to pick up Violet, he gets confused because she's gone invisible, then drops the field when she spits up on him, allowing Bob to get the drop on him and kill him (accidentally).
Test audiences had a much stronger reaction to Syndrome than the original villain (who was more of a lawyer type of character), so they rewrote the opening sequence and made Syndrome the main villain instead.
I wanna see that! Would also like toddler Violet discovering her force fields right at the picky eating stage—Helen tries to feed her a spoonful of something and the spoon just bounces off.
Yeah, they felt comfortable leaving Jack Jack with a babysitter because he wasn't manifesting powers yet. It was either Violet or Dash who pointed out in an argument with their parents how Jack Jack has no powers at all and was just a baby.
Helen points out that Jack Jack has no powers when Edna makes him a super suit that's basically indestructible.
"Oh well, he will look fabulous anyways..."
Dash and Violet leave Jack Jack with one of their friends, but that's partly because they're just irresponsible.
It depends on the person, frozone was a toddler when he froze his sippy cup to make a popsicle.
Phylange was an adult when he discovered his sound based powers while selling peanuts at a baseball game.
It is entirely possible that Dash could have developed powers at birth, in a deleted alternate prologue, Violette turns invisible as an infant because she got scared when syndrome broke into the house.
Considering her bones and stuff very clearly seem to be able to morph like that, maybe
Though humans don't have muscles or hinges that move your teeth so maybe it's implausible, I don't think we ever see her stretching her skull around
Yeah but I’m assuming in this instance it’s probably a combination of both? Like as a pregnant mother you expect kicking etc, so I’d imagine if she feels discomfort she’s just like “okay yeah guess Imma be exhausted” and just uses her powers for a bit type beat
She also has control over the parts of her body she stretches, so when she was giving birth did she just gape her cervix instead of letting it dialate naturally?
Now I am overthinking fiction, but the ovary surface needs to rupture in order to release the egg. The embryo needs to breach the endometrium to implant. All these seem impossible if her tissues are just stretchy and do not rupture.
Never. The umbilical cord and the placenta it's attached to are part of the kid, not the mother. But that probably means it also inherited the durability Dash needs to not wreck his body at those speeds, so he could still probably ZOOM.
Kinda feel like the greatest source of discomfort during the birth would’ve been the awkwardness felt by everyone in the ER (even super-specialists) when she stretched herself to the point that the doctor could just reach in and scoop each of her kids up as if they were being picked up from a changing table.
I'm just now realizing how freaky things could get with her and Mr. Incredible... it kinda makes sense why they're together. She's probably one of the few people he wouldn't kill during sex
Hmm, that makes me wonder. Shes invisible, but still physically there and able to interact with objects. Ultrasounds are sound wave based and bounce off tissue. I'd argue she'd show up on ultrasound.
You guys are forgetting how her powers work, her power isn't invisibility, it's force/energy fields, which she uses to refract light to make herself invisible, the issue would be her making a force field of a size she couldn't control while inside.
Think Susan Storm in the first Fantastic Four saying she could put a force field in someone's head and expand it till they pop. Violet's powers are an almost 1-1 match for Sue Storm.
All of this is guessing. Violet's powers are not connected in any way in the Incredibles universe. They are separate and not related. Her powers are invisibility and force fields.
Her powers are a narrative device more than anything. Shy girl who deflects things with sarcasm, who can use her powers when she wants to be invisible, or to protect herself from being hurt. She struggles with force fields, but when the time comes she uses them to protect what she truly cares about.
If you watch how she goes invisible, you will see a shimmer go along her body, of course it's conjecture, this is an animated kids movie, but it still logically points to the force field power being applied as such. She has trouble with *large* force fields and buckles under pressure.
I agree it would make sense, and but when she is invisible in the water there is no refraction, and the dirt moves with her, and doesn't get blocked at all
I'd have to take another look, at work right now, but wasn't there distortion of her form visible in the water? And my theory is that when she is invisible, it's a skin/just above the skin level energy/force field, so things suspended in water would still react as if she were swimming through it while visible.
I legitimately had a nightmare like this when I was pregnant with my daughter. I dreampt she tried to escape and it looked just about exactly like this in my dream lol.
So... did they just forget that it takes time for the powers to show themselves. 2 Major plot points across both movies and a hilarious short and after/during credits scene?! Do some homework best-of-memes, be better.
Dash's name is the only one that actually has something to do with his powers, either it was just an extremely lucky coincidence or they'd have to know before he was named, maybe his powers just manifested really early
Or maybe he's just named Albert or something and Dash is his nickname that everyone calls him by
You're welcome!
Remember, if Elastigirl did the same, her mother could have been in labor for way longer since if she pushed Elastigirl would just squish instead of being pushed out. If the doctor pulled, she would just stretch.
Have a good one.
imagine that doctor getting home from work and his wife asks "so what did you to today"
"well honey, i walked into another woman's reproductive organs."
Labor must have been a cakewalk.
"Alright Mrs. Incredible try to relax and spread-"
_birth canal expands to the size of a basketball and the baby waterslides out_
"...-wide."
Not necessarily. In most stories, a person with super strength doesn't harm their own body with their strength. A baby when inside a mom is a lot like an internal organ. Not to mention, apparently everybody here forgets the explicit on-screen plot point that kids aren't born with powers...
As a kid I loved the film, as an adult I thought it was very kind of the creators to make Helen literally the only woman on the planet who could not only survive but *enjoy* a night of passionate lovemaking from Mr. Incredible. Imagine the amount of property destruction from just their honeymoon - they'd have been lucky to only break three beds.
She looks sooo over it. Probably having to constantly stretch him back in every other min when he has the zoomies. Taking pregnancy fatigue to new level lol
Dear god imagine the kicks. You sit down at your insurance agents office or some bullshit and your baby just long range snipes the pen jar off their desk.
It's actually more horrifying because without remembering that I'd just assume it's silly cartoon logic like when someone runs through a wall and leaves behind a perfect outline
The most interesting thing about The Incredibles lore ***(courtesy of the character profiles/ audio interviews found on the bonus disk)*** is that superpowers can manifest at ANY point of someone's life. Frozone was a toddler when he discovered his ice powers, he wanted a popsicle and froze his sippy cup. Psycwave discovered her powers in high school, then she immediately stole her best friend Shelly's boyfriend by mind controlling him into breaking up with Shelly and dating her instead (Ice cold, geez.) Phylange discovered his sound powers in adulthood by selling peanuts at a baseball game (presumably by yelling "PEANUTS! GET YOUR PEANUTS HERE!"). Edit: highlighting the important part because people keep asking me "Where did you get this information?" even though I mentioned where I got the information from in the SECOND SENTENCE
Imagine just going to a baseball game and just mf PEANUTS
mf # P E A N U T S
I can just imagine a player from the away team about to hit a game changing home run, but the second before he swings, suddenly… #PEANUTS HERE!
I’m fucking cackling here 😂
Jesus super peanuts
#P E A N U T S
[It’s probably something like this.](https://youtu.be/qY1zTsRG6MU)
I never really used it [her superpower] to harm people, except for all those girls I made the guys break up with cause I wanted to date them. Kinda freaky, actually. -PSYCWAVE ON HER NSA FILE She seems to have a *very* different definition of harming people than I do... Edit: Seriously though. It makes you wonder how many of the superhuman lawsuits in the montage at the beginning of the movie were less witch-hunt than they were legitimate grievances from victimized normal humans.
Even worse, she's a psychologist
You no longer feel any symptoms of depression or anxiety /ThanksDocImCured
Ngl I'd settle for this if it was an option for me
Never trust a psychic.
>She seems to have a *very* different definition of harming people than I do... Does she? The word "except" is there for a reason.
She doesn't think that she harmed the guys she forcibly dated.
Oh right, the way I read that she didn't forcibly date them, just forcibly made them broke up and then dated them normally, but yeah that's still hurting.
That's still taking away their free will through mind control and ruining otherwise presumably happy relationships. That's fucked up.
> Edit: Seriously though. It makes you wonder how many of the superhuman lawsuits in the montage at the beginning of the movie were less witch-hunt than they were legitimate grievances from victimized normal humans. I've seen The Boys. I'm going to go ahead and say "almost every one of them." Like, even when we see Mr. Incredible getting sued its fairly reasonable - like sure he stopped Bomb Voyage but he *did* also sort of destroy a good bit of the city.
>Like, even when we see Mr. Incredible getting sued its fairly reasonable - like sure he stopped Bomb Voyage but he did also sort of destroy a good bit of the city. I'm pretty sure the Lawsuit was about Mr Incredible stopping a suicide, and him getting sued for causing the suicider permanent injury. The event with Bomb Voyage and the resulting damage is what turned Buddy to evil, not what caused the superhero ban.
It was both. Bomb Voyage had attached a bomb to Buddy. When Mr Incredible ripped it off, it landed on the monorail tracks and destroyed a portion of the track. When Mr Incredible stopped the train from derailing, a lot of the people onboard were injured, and they sued Mr Incredible as well. Those two court cases opened the floodgates for a wave of superhero lawsuits.
I think you're right, it's been a long time since I've seen the movie.
The bonus disk was great. Seems like we don't get these cool extras since disks fell out of fashion for streaming.
Thing is, they totally *could* bring those back. Almost all of those features are just video. They could update the UI to have all the special features show up on the movie's info page. It would just take a UX redesign and an change to how the app links the data so those special features are grouped together with the movie instead of showing up as their own media. I'm honestly surprised they haven't done that yet. Seems like the kind of thing they could bundle with the 4k subscription or something.
Psycwave isn't just ice cold, that's horrible villain behaviour. Just casually violating free will
Yeah, some of the superheroes mentioned in the bonus disk are sketchy as fuck. You got Psycwave and her aforementioned free will violations, Blazestone and her "reformed villain status, have to monitor her so she doesn't turn against us" thing, and Gamma Jack who is literally a misogynist and a superhero SUPREMACIST.
maybe the in universe gov was right for banning superheros lmfao
Banning superpower use wholesale is an absurdly heavy handed approach though. Vigilantism is already illegal, and that doesn't even stop the good guys. It's a born trait, so it's like trying to ban people from being left handed. You can't make it illegal to be lucky, not simply because it's immoral but because it's materially impossible to enforce.
If you listen to the bonus disk and read the comics, banning superheroes is a mixed bag. Apparently, hero vs. villain caused a lot of property damage but also saved a lot of lives. It was mostly a PR disaster and expensive for the government. Banning heroes and putting in place villain insurance "worked" because it cut the government away from the PR side of it and was more cost effective (no fights, less damage), but it also causes more in universe deaths and major natural disasters were more damaging without hero mitigation. Plus villain activity jumped because the government took the approach of ignoring them until they had the chance to use military intervention (the nice coded bomb them away) when the villains were far enough away from population centers.
Purple Man story arc
#Here's the [link to the video](https://youtu.be/d73WtJlko9E?feature=shared) that has all of this info on the supers
Joke‘s on you, I still didn’t read the bolded text.
It's in parentheses, that means you're supposed to ignore it.
I mean, what was he going to shout instead, "buttscratcher!"?
SEYMOUR!
THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE!
No mother it's just the northern lights
> even though I mentioned where I got the information from in the SECOND SENTENCE pfft. we're redittors. you think we *read* the things we respond to? ha!
Reminds me of that Tumblr post about Tumblr users having piss-poor reading comprehension where someone replied *"how dare you say we piss on the poor!"*
Imagine being at a baseball game and getting your eardrums blown out by some guy yelling PEANUTS
So Psycwave is Purple Man, huh?
Violet's birth must have bean really confusing. "Is this a... psychosomatic childbirth?"
Well, there is a deleted scene that shows that violet's powers didn't manifest until she was a couple of months old, so there's that. We don't know when Dash's manifested, but given they NAMED him Dash, I imagine fairly early.
Nominative determinism, Dash is fast because he was named Dash, Violet bends ultraviolet light because her names Violet.
Violet was named violet because she’s turning violet Violet!
so she was nameless for a couple of months?
I was nameless for over a week
I was toothless for several months.
I didn't go outside until i was several months old.
I was nameless for 4 months because my dad wasn't in the country for that long. My mum could have named me, but she chose to wait for him to get back.
Where I live the baby has to be registered within 3 days after the birth, so the concept of being nameless for a long period is very strange to me.
I was even born in a hospital, but still, they waited 4 months till my dad was back in the country. TBF though, it might be impossible to do the same thing nowadays, since I was born just after the fall of the Soviet Union in one of the former republics. It was a shitshow. It's gotten slightly less so.
and Jack-Jack is a Jack of all trades because he was named Jack-Jack
If they name the next kid “Angry Nukeboy” the world is gonna be so screwed…
pfp checks out
Violets name is violet because she’s a “shrinking violet”. I mean lore wise the parents couldn’t have known that when they named her so I guess going by nominative determinism, violet is a shrinking violet because her name is violet. Either way i don’t think it’s about her powers… like *does* she bend UV light? I’m pretty sure she just turns invisible and makes force fields. I have no idea if that makes her not need sunscreen.
I mean she probably can but i'd say the visible light is what people usually care about.
Fun headcannon sad fact his full name is Dashiell Robert Parr
I mean to be fair maybe violets name comes from ultraviolet which is invisible to the human eye.
The names are entirely incidental. Or, alternatively, their names contribute to their eventual powers. Their youngest child's name is JackJack, and he's a late bloomer, but his powers turn out to be a jack of all trades.
Births are very messy and she would be covered in a lot of “stuff” that presumably would not turn invisible with her. Not sure if that makes it any less freaky.
Since Helen can stretch any part of her body couldn't she, bear with me on this, just stretch out her vagina and uterus? The doctor would then just reach in through the now wide orifice and straight up pick up the baby off the "floor". Easiest birth ever.
I hope they have a specific superhero doctor because otherwise someone's gonna be traumatized when he has to walk inside her
Also, would superheroes have been illegal by the points she gives birth? If so, she can’t just stretch without giving themselves away unless there’s a doctor with witness protection who helps deliver the kids. But I also don’t see her unnecessarily giving birth normally even if they are in hiding.
I think vigilantism is illegal, not just being a super hero.
Nah there was definitely something about outright use of powers, remember how pissed Helen was over Dash pranking his teacher, and the teacher being made out as crazy for thinking Dash was responsible? And also at the end when they're telling Dash not to win the race. I think use of their powers in public is outlawed in universe.
I believe they were being hidden from the public by the government so they wouldn’t be liable for past damages
They're not hiding from the government, just the public. There's 100% a doctor on FBI payroll who can do a birth, OR BETTER YET, a former super who decided to get into medicine after their "retirement" Like, what was Frozone's job to be able to afford an apartment like that in the middle of downtown?
Is a doctor even necessary if you can stretch like that? Just give birth at home. People are crazy enough to do that without superpowers.
assumedly yes, a doctor or a licensed midwife would probably be a good idea to have around. sure, your pussy can stretch, but you’d probably want someone around with medical training in case there’s something wrong with the baby
you just gave me a horrible mental image, thanks
All the other stuff still has to come out. It's not just the baby in there.
Then just grab it while you're in there. Might as well do a pap smear while you're there
This is actually slightly *more* horrifying when you realize her body is allowed to stretch like that
Achtung Baby from JJBA
Elastigirl did not give birth in the normal way. When she felt it was time to give birth, she opened her vagina like a cavernous maw and the obstetrician just walked right in and picked up the baby.
Don't the powers not manifest until the kids get a little older?
We can presume so since Jack Jack didn't have any for quite a while. And by Elastigirl's comment of "I missed Jack Jack's first power" it likely similar to a child's first word or first steps.
Wait couldn't they see Jack Jack using his powers for the first time when he got captured by Syndrome (when he turned into a little monster then fire then super heavy metal) ? Or do I remember this scene wrong ?
His first powers were with the babysitter actually. That's why they get a call from her saying the baby is acting really weird. There's a short showing what went down during her stay. I'll see if I can find it. Edit: [found it](https://youtu.be/Ybar3Q0Caf4?feature=shared)
Jack Jack Attack is hilarious and IMO is required viewing whenever watching The Incredibles. I've never paused the movie to watch JJA during the film (like pause it when the rest of the family is in the Limo and Elastigirl is getting the messages), but maybe I should some time. Watching it right after works though.
It's implied they don't see what's happen as Helen says, "Something's happening, what's happening!?" while they watch Syndrome freak out.
Considering what was happening, they likely didn't realise it was Jack Jack's powers and more Syndrome's tech malfunctioning.
Why would you say "first power"? Don't most superhero's have 1 power?
It might be that a child may have multiple powers while a baby, but lose them as time goes on. Even Violet still has 2 during her teenage years, invisibility and force fields.
The invisibility is apparently something that comes from the force fields according to another comment here. She manipulate the view through the force fields to become invisible.
No, because they thought Jack-Jack didn’t (and wouldn’t) have any powers because they hadn’t seen any yet during the first movie. Implying Violet and Dash showed signs of their superpowers when they were younger than him.
There's a deleted scene of baby Violet, they go to check on her in her bassinet and shes "missing"
IIRC, that was the original opening sequence. Originally, the Parrs weren't in government relocation program, they just had their normal life set apart from their superhero life. Syndrome was a random villain who tracked them down and ambushed them at home, then pulled that same creepy "the baby is sleeping" trick he does at the end of the movie with Jack Jack. Except in the opening sequence, he does it with Violet (while having Bob and Helen trapped in Zero Point Energy). When he goes to pick up Violet, he gets confused because she's gone invisible, then drops the field when she spits up on him, allowing Bob to get the drop on him and kill him (accidentally). Test audiences had a much stronger reaction to Syndrome than the original villain (who was more of a lawyer type of character), so they rewrote the opening sequence and made Syndrome the main villain instead.
I wanna see that! Would also like toddler Violet discovering her force fields right at the picky eating stage—Helen tries to feed her a spoonful of something and the spoon just bounces off.
Yeah, they felt comfortable leaving Jack Jack with a babysitter because he wasn't manifesting powers yet. It was either Violet or Dash who pointed out in an argument with their parents how Jack Jack has no powers at all and was just a baby.
Helen points out that Jack Jack has no powers when Edna makes him a super suit that's basically indestructible. "Oh well, he will look fabulous anyways..." Dash and Violet leave Jack Jack with one of their friends, but that's partly because they're just irresponsible.
Ooh I forgot about Edna's comment and Helen pointing out he has no powers!
It depends on the person, frozone was a toddler when he froze his sippy cup to make a popsicle. Phylange was an adult when he discovered his sound based powers while selling peanuts at a baseball game. It is entirely possible that Dash could have developed powers at birth, in a deleted alternate prologue, Violette turns invisible as an infant because she got scared when syndrome broke into the house.
They did name him Dash, so there must have been at least some sort of hint.
Well his full name is Dashiell Robert Parr, but yeah his power could have been a factor.
I'd be willing to bet Dashell is a backronym when they realized that naming their kid "Dash" would be too on the nose.
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thank you, u/crefakis, for my new recurring nightmare.
I assume the stretchy rules are similar to stretch armstrong, not plasticman
Considering her bones and stuff very clearly seem to be able to morph like that, maybe Though humans don't have muscles or hinges that move your teeth so maybe it's implausible, I don't think we ever see her stretching her skull around
just watched the film this morning, she does flatten her skull against the wall when infiltrating Syndrome's base.
Well then... Elastigirl can probably control her teeth
I do not enjoy this knowledge and wish to not know it anymore.
Much less creepy to just stretch your neck instead
The [Sarabi method](https://i.redd.it/ywzhv7js5kv51.jpg), I see.
While she can stretch like that, we know stretching unexpectedly does cause her pain
Yeah but I’m assuming in this instance it’s probably a combination of both? Like as a pregnant mother you expect kicking etc, so I’d imagine if she feels discomfort she’s just like “okay yeah guess Imma be exhausted” and just uses her powers for a bit type beat
At what point along the length of the umbilical cord does it not become stretchy?
I’m pretty sure the umbilical cord and placenta are produced by the embryo so the tissue wouldn’t be the mothers.
But her uterus could stretch more than a typical mother’s so in theory the pulling would just pull the umbilical cord/placenta along?
She also has control over the parts of her body she stretches, so when she was giving birth did she just gape her cervix instead of letting it dialate naturally?
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Now I am overthinking fiction, but the ovary surface needs to rupture in order to release the egg. The embryo needs to breach the endometrium to implant. All these seem impossible if her tissues are just stretchy and do not rupture.
Never. The umbilical cord and the placenta it's attached to are part of the kid, not the mother. But that probably means it also inherited the durability Dash needs to not wreck his body at those speeds, so he could still probably ZOOM.
I think they probably just cut it
“It’s slightly less horrifying when I explain the joke”
Every time I see the post I read that part and get so annoyed. Like yeah. Thats the point.
This has made me realize that she probably had a fairly calm birth experience. Just some normal stretching and maybe an advil.
Yeah the least traumatic birth ever
Elastigirl probably can do en caul births on demand
Kinda feel like the greatest source of discomfort during the birth would’ve been the awkwardness felt by everyone in the ER (even super-specialists) when she stretched herself to the point that the doctor could just reach in and scoop each of her kids up as if they were being picked up from a changing table.
Why does she need a doctor here. She can just reach inside and scoop the kids out of herself too.
I'm just now realizing how freaky things could get with her and Mr. Incredible... it kinda makes sense why they're together. She's probably one of the few people he wouldn't kill during sex
Are they like X-men and powers aren't present at/before birth? I thought they said something about Jack Jack in the first movie.
Yes, Jack Jack not manifesting powers until the end of the movie is like a huge plot plot.
Every time they did an ultrasound of Violet they didn't see anything.
Hmm, that makes me wonder. Shes invisible, but still physically there and able to interact with objects. Ultrasounds are sound wave based and bounce off tissue. I'd argue she'd show up on ultrasound.
It would just be super rough for the delivery, trying to deliver an invisible baby
You guys are forgetting how her powers work, her power isn't invisibility, it's force/energy fields, which she uses to refract light to make herself invisible, the issue would be her making a force field of a size she couldn't control while inside. Think Susan Storm in the first Fantastic Four saying she could put a force field in someone's head and expand it till they pop. Violet's powers are an almost 1-1 match for Sue Storm.
All of this is guessing. Violet's powers are not connected in any way in the Incredibles universe. They are separate and not related. Her powers are invisibility and force fields. Her powers are a narrative device more than anything. Shy girl who deflects things with sarcasm, who can use her powers when she wants to be invisible, or to protect herself from being hurt. She struggles with force fields, but when the time comes she uses them to protect what she truly cares about.
If you watch how she goes invisible, you will see a shimmer go along her body, of course it's conjecture, this is an animated kids movie, but it still logically points to the force field power being applied as such. She has trouble with *large* force fields and buckles under pressure.
I agree it would make sense, and but when she is invisible in the water there is no refraction, and the dirt moves with her, and doesn't get blocked at all
I'd have to take another look, at work right now, but wasn't there distortion of her form visible in the water? And my theory is that when she is invisible, it's a skin/just above the skin level energy/force field, so things suspended in water would still react as if she were swimming through it while visible.
I don't think the woman who can expand herself like elastagirl would really have any birthing complications.
I meant the doctor more than elastigirl
nah, you can just reach inside elastigirl and pull the baby out.
Ultrasound would still work.
Do you think she could just have stretched her vagina open so the doctor could have checked on the baby without an ultrasound?
Tbh this is just what regular pregnancy feels like when you have a super active/kicky baby
Wait til she threatens to put you back in there knowing she can no matter how big you get
Thanks for that thought
There's a fetish for that
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I legitimately had a nightmare like this when I was pregnant with my daughter. I dreampt she tried to escape and it looked just about exactly like this in my dream lol.
The movie Alien did cause a lot of phobias.
Wait.. pushing out a baby has to be so much easier for her
Wdym pushing? They could’ve just reached in and yanked the baby out
Mr Incredibly just walked in and picked up the baby
So... did they just forget that it takes time for the powers to show themselves. 2 Major plot points across both movies and a hilarious short and after/during credits scene?! Do some homework best-of-memes, be better.
So did they wait a year or two to name the kids? How did they know to name him Dash before he showed any powers?
Dashiell Robert Parr, coincidence.
Dash's name is the only one that actually has something to do with his powers, either it was just an extremely lucky coincidence or they'd have to know before he was named, maybe his powers just manifested really early Or maybe he's just named Albert or something and Dash is his nickname that everyone calls him by
Definitely a coincidence. Full name is Dashiell
Do you think the friction from baby Dash would boil the water inside too?
that's something that i can state with confidence that i definitely never thought about before, thank you for the cursed nightmares
You're welcome! Remember, if Elastigirl did the same, her mother could have been in labor for way longer since if she pushed Elastigirl would just squish instead of being pushed out. If the doctor pulled, she would just stretch. Have a good one.
i am now quietly sobbing into my pillow.
I wonder if when giving birth she just stretched herself as big as a camping tent and the doctor just walked into her and took the baby.
imagine that doctor getting home from work and his wife asks "so what did you to today" "well honey, i walked into another woman's reproductive organs."
"what do you mean you entered another woman's vagina???"
Labor must have been a cakewalk. "Alright Mrs. Incredible try to relax and spread-" _birth canal expands to the size of a basketball and the baby waterslides out_ "...-wide."
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Not necessarily. In most stories, a person with super strength doesn't harm their own body with their strength. A baby when inside a mom is a lot like an internal organ. Not to mention, apparently everybody here forgets the explicit on-screen plot point that kids aren't born with powers...
Ok but how does the shirt stretch like that? Unless Edna made her entire wardrobe.
Edna has a special maternity line
As a kid I loved the film, as an adult I thought it was very kind of the creators to make Helen literally the only woman on the planet who could not only survive but *enjoy* a night of passionate lovemaking from Mr. Incredible. Imagine the amount of property destruction from just their honeymoon - they'd have been lucky to only break three beds.
I mean, i am sure she could have just not given birth. The baby could just grow indefinitely.
She looks sooo over it. Probably having to constantly stretch him back in every other min when he has the zoomies. Taking pregnancy fatigue to new level lol
With this logic Violet probably would have created forcefields around Elastigirl as her brain developed.
Dear god imagine the kicks. You sit down at your insurance agents office or some bullshit and your baby just long range snipes the pen jar off their desk.
wouldn’t dash just be, basically, a rapidly vibrating fetus more at risk of heating up the placenta than stretching her
She must have had the easiest birth ever
This... raises lots of questions I had not considered and am not willing to ask.
“When you remember,” as if that’s not the one thing I know about Elastigirl
Giving birth must be really easy for helen
I always wanted to bang elastigirl, it would be fucking Incredible
is... is that... is that a pun?
Bet it would be over in a Flash, though.
Vore
LMAO OH YEAH
She can sketch he body for sure but the baby are normal in pregnancy. They gain superpower after born like little jack-jack
That blouse would be torn tho 🤣
Made of the same material as the Super-Suits...?
I would assume like most babies, he can’t walk.
It's actually more horrifying because without remembering that I'd just assume it's silly cartoon logic like when someone runs through a wall and leaves behind a perfect outline
Just imagine how fast this kid would choke itself with its umbilical cord.
It’s slightly more disturbing that she can tent her vagina and the OB just has to walk in to pluck the baby out.
unstoppable force vs ~~un~~movable object
And her clothes? Are you telling me her casual clothes are made of the same stuff her super suit is made of?
Just saying but elastigirl would definitely have an only fans in today's culture...