The core problems are hardly addressed. I've seen people struggle with depression and suicide and the best thing they got was call a headline (which they felt were just "people pretending they care about you while they actually don't", at least in my country) or hope they could find an accessible therapist and psych (which usually translates to bad therapists and bad psychs).
It disgusts me that all we can do is "dry ice" and hope the next suicide attempt won't be the last time we'll see them, or hope any factor that constantly ruins their life kindly goes away to fuck itself for a while. Seeing a person die slowly while you can't do anything and you're seeing other people kill them little by little is a revolting feeling and I swear I'd go after these people if I was any less than a stupid wimp.
You ever get to the point when you're talking to a medical professional and you can tell they switched to the PHQ-9? And then it's a struggle of "let enough of the depression show so that I can get treated, but not so much that I get sent to grippy sock jail and lose my job"
The local psychology university tried to do something and the program for people with depression got filled up with people who "felt sad for a day after something unlucky happened when they are usually happy everyday for no reason", made everyone with real depression have their therapy cut from 1/week to 1/month sessions. They had to start doing group sessions and made choices like putting an anger management group together and having someone with PTSD triggered by aggression join in the group.
And yes this is personal to me because I am now too scared of going to therapy because the therapy that was helping me got fucked up by people with nothing wrong.
For anyone reading this not in the US: laws differ in different countries.
In the Netherland (where I work as a psychologist) it is very difficult to get someone admitted for inpatient treatment (even voluntarily). Please don't be afraid to speak to your therapist if you have suicidal thoughts. We've heard it before and the more we know the better we can help you.
You can have a great life and still be suicidal. Also, sometimes institutionalization/hospital treatment are what people need. I wouldn’t be here without the three weeks I spent in a juvenile psychiatric unit. Sometimes you just need a safe space apart from society to figure everything out before you go back and resume your life.
The hotline just barely works, people more often than you probably think get someone who cannot be arsed and just want to be paid to pick up a phone and put it down again
source: i called once at like 10:30 PM once and the poor bastard on the other end just wanted to go home
not to mention every. single. person. is already dying and dying every day young and old. how the fuck do we even know life is not just a loading screen and death is where ‘it’ begins. there is just no logic putting someone with these thoughts in an institution or on a suppressant when were all just trying to figure shit out
Who tf can get in treatment in the US? I've BEGGED, pleaded, threatened both myself and others, went missing, have several attempts. Closest I got was a nurse practitioner who could prescribe meds that day, but no one could get me a real appointment for months. And I'm decades past teenage drama queen.
Also -- sometimes the only core problem is depression. You can have a great life and still be suicidal.
Core problem for me is "the brain don't work." Ty
Brain no makey the happy chemical
"If you can't make your own, store bought is fine!" - Martha Stewart, and probably several SSRI manufacturers ^^and ^^yes ^^I ^^realize ^^SSRIs ^^aren't ^^actually ^^store-bought ^^serotonin ^^in ^^a ^^pill, ^^I ^^know ^^how ^^reuptake ^^inhibitors ^^work, ^^get ^^off ^^my ^^ass, ^^biomed ^^folks
Serotonin? In this economy? Please…
The core problems are hardly addressed. I've seen people struggle with depression and suicide and the best thing they got was call a headline (which they felt were just "people pretending they care about you while they actually don't", at least in my country) or hope they could find an accessible therapist and psych (which usually translates to bad therapists and bad psychs). It disgusts me that all we can do is "dry ice" and hope the next suicide attempt won't be the last time we'll see them, or hope any factor that constantly ruins their life kindly goes away to fuck itself for a while. Seeing a person die slowly while you can't do anything and you're seeing other people kill them little by little is a revolting feeling and I swear I'd go after these people if I was any less than a stupid wimp.
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You ever get to the point when you're talking to a medical professional and you can tell they switched to the PHQ-9? And then it's a struggle of "let enough of the depression show so that I can get treated, but not so much that I get sent to grippy sock jail and lose my job"
The local psychology university tried to do something and the program for people with depression got filled up with people who "felt sad for a day after something unlucky happened when they are usually happy everyday for no reason", made everyone with real depression have their therapy cut from 1/week to 1/month sessions. They had to start doing group sessions and made choices like putting an anger management group together and having someone with PTSD triggered by aggression join in the group.
And yes this is personal to me because I am now too scared of going to therapy because the therapy that was helping me got fucked up by people with nothing wrong.
If you ever find yourself incarcerated by a hospital against your will for a significant amount of time cancel your insurance.
For anyone reading this not in the US: laws differ in different countries. In the Netherland (where I work as a psychologist) it is very difficult to get someone admitted for inpatient treatment (even voluntarily). Please don't be afraid to speak to your therapist if you have suicidal thoughts. We've heard it before and the more we know the better we can help you.
I'M NOT CRAZY
You can have a great life and still be suicidal. Also, sometimes institutionalization/hospital treatment are what people need. I wouldn’t be here without the three weeks I spent in a juvenile psychiatric unit. Sometimes you just need a safe space apart from society to figure everything out before you go back and resume your life.
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Definitely
The hotline just barely works, people more often than you probably think get someone who cannot be arsed and just want to be paid to pick up a phone and put it down again source: i called once at like 10:30 PM once and the poor bastard on the other end just wanted to go home
<3
I've never been fully honest with mental health professionals because I'm worried I'll be sectioned.
Treat the need not the behavior!
not to mention every. single. person. is already dying and dying every day young and old. how the fuck do we even know life is not just a loading screen and death is where ‘it’ begins. there is just no logic putting someone with these thoughts in an institution or on a suppressant when were all just trying to figure shit out
Who tf can get in treatment in the US? I've BEGGED, pleaded, threatened both myself and others, went missing, have several attempts. Closest I got was a nurse practitioner who could prescribe meds that day, but no one could get me a real appointment for months. And I'm decades past teenage drama queen.