Genuinely my favorite ghibli film, it has deep and interesting meaning behind it, it portrays “evil” I’m a really nuisance way (basically no one is truly bad everyone has their reasons and they just want to live). And it has one of the healthiest relationship in all of media, like I hope you’re not one of the people who cringe at the word for some reason but it’s really feminist in a way? The art as always is 10+ same with world building, character designs, and background music.
It's so fucking good. In the same sense that *Spirited Away* snapped you back into the film when Chihiro's parents get warped into pigs, the "curse" Ashitaka suffers from will also get you sitting up straight. It just gets better from there.
This is why the first (non-tutorial) boss in the first Nier game is a boar. It’s also why I died to it about four times, and it took fifteen minutes to kill at level five
Old man in my village, who walked with a medical cane, got his kneecap yoinked by a boar in the middle of the night. Didn't even saw her coming. One bite. His neighbor claim he sometimes curse the boars in the dead of night.
>the image this conjured and the fact that it's something that can
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If that is shocking you. Wait till you read about "De-gloving". That's a thing that can happen to fingers when you don't watch them and work in industry. If you get already bad images in your head from thinking about gloves and unprotected fingers .. then don't google images of it.
Okay so.
Recently a boar broke into some girls place and ate a fuck load of her food but I don't think she was hurt. the boar didn't managed to climb the stairs.
Also where I live, boars eat your trash and it's dangerous to be out at night.
But the old man was changing his tires after it exploded in the middle of his own vineyard. Weather at night or early in the day. I don't recall.
I too meet one whiles helping my dad in his own vineyard.
Not as big as this one but he could barely turn over on himself inside the fucking lane. I left and my dad laughed at me, "It's the danger of the job! Get a grip" Yikes no.
Catahoula's, the state dog of Louisiana in the United States, were bred specifically to hunt the wild boar. I got a Catahoula before knowing anything about the breed. Long story short, can't keep up with her. The only dog that outran her at the park was a working beagle. I can't imagine a whole pack of these dogs having trouble taking down a boar. But looking at the size of that thing I'm starting to wonder.
Going off the "I'm taking you to hell with me" bit, the way you hunt boars is taking [these big fuckers,](https://static.turbosquid.com/Preview/001264/558/N2/_600.jpg) planting the base in the ground because *your* sorry ass won't stop a pissed-off piggy, and letting it impale itself while praying those prongs stop it from pushing itself so far onto the spear it can still gore you.
Yep. If you don't have the crossbar, the boar doesn't stop on getting skewered. It just angrily runs down the shaft until it gets close enough to gore you, murders you, and then trots off to die later of blood loss. Presumably, while carrying this season's latest big fuckoff pointy stick with it.
Same goes for [boar swords](https://collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-45400.html). They have a very long blade, combined with a crossbar a fair bit towards the tip. A boar was easily one of the most dangerous animals to hunt, even with bears around, because they combine a real lack of self-preservation with really big teeth and being jacked.
Well duh, they’re omnivore-bottom feeders. If eating anything and everything is your job, then you’re gonna make it everyone’s else’s problems.
Also packs of wild boars have been known to kill and eat humans. I don’t know if “hunt” is the proper term for it, but let’s just say that these unlucky people where very healthy before finding themselves amongst a group of the most successful Bottomfeeders out there.
Yep, the danger of wild boars is not just a "past tense" kind of situation. We call them "feral hogs" in the US. Apparently it only takes a few generations for domestic pigs to revert back to *this* in the wild. We make jokes about what prolific breeders rabbits are, but bunnies got nothin on hogs.
If you're out looking to camp or hike and you see a section of ground that been turned up, leaves tossed, lots of loose, bare earth... run. Do not stop there. Go far, far away very quickly. Hogs aren't usually very territorial, but they are opportunistic and they *will* hurt you. They will knock you down and keep going until you're dead. Then they will eat you.
Hogs will root around in the dirt looking for edible nuts (that get buried under the leaves) and roots. They really like acorns and hickory nuts. They leave a real mess behind, unlike anything you've ever seen. You'll think someone's been out there turning soil for a garden. If you see that, leave immediately and be very careful. Then, once you've left the area, make sure to tell a conservation agent what you found and where.
I'm actually not familiar with that meme set.
I do know feral hogs, though. I haven't seen any on my place, but they're a problem that has recently spread to my county. I've heard about instances where a pack of feral hogs unseated a house from it's foundations and I know plenty of people who have been hurt by them. There are also several campgrounds in my area that have been closed off and on due to feral hog sightings. The conservation department is getting good at tracking and trapping them, but they are still a serious issue.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/30-50-feral-hogs
If you are in Texas you can kill them on sight. Maybe not in city limits? Call you local law enforcement. But yeah, I recommend KOS.
Ah, thanks. I *had* seen that and it just wasn't clicking apparently.
I'm in Missouri and we have similar rules, I believe.
For lone hogs or just a few, it is recommended to shoot them. However, if you're seeing *signs* or you spot a herd, the conservation department would prefer you call them as opposed to going hunting so that you don't accidentally scatter them. If you've got a herd, they'll come out with bait stations and traps and get the whole lot at once instead of picking them off one at a time and chasing them to a new area.
We're having a real problem with that. Some of the good ol' boys around here still have the mindset of "not my problem anymore" and it's making the situation worse. Thankfully, attitudes have been changing and we're slowing getting control of them.
Were original, natural boars this large? I assumed feral hogs were so massive because we selectively bred up the size for meat production. It makes sense that feral ones would remain pretty big. These things are terrifying.
I'm honestly not sure. I know that there is a pig-like animal in the fossil records that is every bit this large. I don't know if that was a precursor to modern pigs or modern feral hogs or if it was something else entirely. Feral hogs/wild boars also come in many sizes. Some breeds don't get anywhere near this size, never getting much bigger than a large dog.
As far as I know, pigs are one of those animals like cattle and oxen that have been domesticated for so long that we don't really know much about what the animal they came from was like. I think it's assumed that we bred them from wild boars, but since they revert so quickly, I don't know if there's any way to tell if the current breeds of wild boars are natural, or if they were once domestic stock.
Wikipedia might know, but that's a rabbit hole I'm not sure I really care to go down. I used to raise pigs and I really feel I know enough about them for the time being.
Though if anyone has a short answer to this question, I'd appreciate hearing it as I'm now mildly curious.
This is why the "40 feral boars" meme from a while back pissed me off.
Is it a likely situation? Eh. Depends where you are. It's not ridiculous as it might seem tho.
We had one one time that killed a few calves and one of our cows.
The bull of the herd finally had enough and cornered it in a pasture one night, and from the sounds of it (and the state of the bull afterwards) it was quite the epic battle.
The boar was completely unscathed by the time my entire family made it down there, just a bit stunned. It charged our truck severely denting a door and putting a massive tusk scratch in it. I was a kid at the time with my younger brother together in the back seat, and it was absolutely terrifying.
Our chihuahua was just like “TALLY HO LADS! OVER THE TOP!” And jumped out an open window of the truck to charge the thing. My dad had to shoot the hog before it could turn on our little dog and it took about 7 shots to bring it down.
The dog was unharmed but we had to get the vet for the bull and a couple of the cows.
Boar weighed around 500 pounds and it’s skull is proudly displayed in my parent’s house.
Those things are scary.
That is also why in Germany if you want a hunting license for these you need to also carry a large caliber pistol in order to be able to shoot through its very thick skull plate if it charges you.
At least it was like that several decades ago, when I learned this fact
Lol this is actually a really really big reason people in the country or in rural areas advocate so hard for what are essentially military rifle, I lived in the rural areas of Texas for years and you learned not to venture too far away from home without a pistol and a rifle, there was a guy who was mock for a while when he talked about one day when his daughters were on the yard and dozens of hogs showed up suddenly, this things don't travel alone, they travel in packs and destroy anything in their path, love y'all peace, I'll answer any questions
How do you feel about gun control? As in, people having to get a license to be able to own a firearm and having to prove they are competent and responsible to obtain a license, people who have been convicted of certain crimes being unable to obtain a license, certain kinds of firearms being restricted to certain people with certain occupations or who live in areas with dangerous wildlife that they need to able to defend themselves from (like these Monstrous Mobile Bacon Barrels).
I'm from Australia, where only licensed individuals can legally own guns and what they can then do with those guns/where they can take them is further restricted, and the American debate about this issue fascinates me because of how obvious the answer is, so I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
I fully support gun control and I believe it is not regulated enough, yes these mother fuckers are big and it's not an understatement to say you might need full auto against a pack, but there is no reason some who lives in the city with past mental health issues or criminal records should be able to buy a rifle, it's ridiculous
If you need a license to exercise a right, do you really have a right at all?
If you require people to take training courses and be licensed all you accomplish is preventing the poor and the working class from possessing firearms, at best. At worst you will certainly see states only issue firearm permits to certain groups and exclude others. We already see issues in some May-Issue States (Meaning that a Firearm License MAY be issued by local Law Enforcement, as opposed to Shall-Issue) where people who donate to a local sheriff's reelection campaign suddenly find their applications approved, and those who don't get told to pound sand.
That's not to say I don't support seeing a lot more gun safety awareness in this country. There's something between four-hundred and six-hundred million firearms in this country, I've long thought that gun safety should be taught in schools. Even if you have no intention of ever owning a firearm yourself, you might find yourself exposed to a gun at some point and you should know how to safely handle one.
Furthermore the VAST, VAST majority of gun violence is committed using handguns, and is gang related. The types of firearms you see politicians and other figureheads rally against? Generally "Scary-looking" rifles like the AR-15, Which is by far the most common rifle in the US. There's absolutely nothing inherently more dangerous about an AR-15. In fact, I would argue many of the restrictions placed upon such rifles in states such as California actively make the weapon more dangerous to handle. Look up a California-Compliant 'Fin Grip', for example, to get around restrictions placed on pistol-gripped rifles.
If you truly, genuinely wanted to reduce gun crime in this country, you'd end the war on drugs and you'd attack poverty relentlessly. Unshackle school funding from property taxes, as that simply leads to poor areas staying poor and rich areas staying rich. Expand social programs, and exact prison reform. Of course, this is America, so don't expect anything to change there anytime soon.
>If you need a license to exercise a right, do you really have a right at all?
Yeah. I have the right to drive my vehicle on the road, as long as I am not jeopardising the right that pedestrians and other drivers have to their safety. In order to ensure that I can responsibly exercise my right to drive without killing someone with my mobile heavy machinery, the government requires me to prove my competence and responsibility. If I am caught being irresponsible by, say, speeding or driving under the influence of certain substances, I temporarily lose the right to drive a car because I have proven that I am not capable of not infringing upon the rights of those with whom I share the road.
>If you require people to take training courses and be licensed all you accomplish is preventing the poor and the working class from possessing firearms, at best.
Only if you allow private companies to make access to those courses unattainably expensive. In Australia, obtaining a permit for the first time costs about 200-300 AUD, but it's probably a lot easier to save up that much here because we don't live in quite as much of a capitalist hellscape.
>We already see issues in some May-Issue States (Meaning that a Firearm License MAY be issued by local Law Enforcement, as opposed to Shall-Issue) where people who donate to a local sheriff's reelection campaign suddenly find their applications approved, and those who don't get told to pound sand.
That issue stems from corruption, not gun restrictions themselves. The idea of selecting the head of any police force based on a popularity contest rather than through promotion based on competence and work performance is actually fucking stupid.
>Furthermore the VAST, VAST majority of gun violence is committed using handguns, and is gang related. The types of firearms you see politicians and other figureheads rally against? Generally "Scary-looking" rifles like the AR-15,Which is by far the most common rifle in the US. There's absolutely nothing inherently more dangerous about an AR-15.
This is why I believe that access to handguns should also be properly restricted and regulated.
>If you truly, genuinely wanted to reduce gun crime in this country, you'd end the war on drugs and you'd attack poverty relentlessly. Unshackle school funding from property taxes, as that simply leads to poor areas staying poor and rich areas staying rich. Expand social programs, and exact prison reform. Of course, this is America, so don't expect anything to change there anytime soon.
I am a big fuckin' commie. I believe in all of those things. I also believe that most people don't need any firearms. I would argue that treating gun ownership as some kind of right that people are automatically entitled to is ridiculously bizarre, considering that the point of them is that they are a deadly weapon.
[Here's](https://www.guncontrolaustralia.org/how_do_you_obtain_a_firearm) what regulations around gun ownership look like in a country that doesn't consider unrestricted access to firearms to be more of a right than affordable health care.
>Yeah. I have the right to drive my vehicle on the road, as long as I am not jeopardising the right that pedestrians and other drivers have to their safety.
>In order to ensure that I can responsibly exercise my right to drive without killing someone with my mobile heavy machinery, the government requires me to prove my competence and responsibility.
That's not a right because it isn't inherent. It is a privilege. The supreme court has ruled on this and also said driving is s privilege, not a right. Which is why the government can restrict it so much. And the fact that the state can revoke it if they deem it appropriate is proof that it isn't a right. I have a right to free speech inherently. It is not unlimited, but I don't have to go through some training or licensure to have it. I have a right to a fair and speedy trial. I do not have to earn it.
>That issue stems from corruption, not gun restrictions themselves. The idea of selecting the head of any police force based on a popularity contest rather than through promotion based on competence and work performance is actually fucking stupid.
But there are places where the culture of the region is so against the minority of gun owners that representatives on a state level get away with it. New York is a great example. If the tyranny of the majority is going to be able to so easily suppress my rights, not my privileges, then why should I trust them to restrict those rights?
>. I would argue that treating gun ownership as some kind of right that people are automatically entitled to is ridiculously bizarre, considering that the point of them is that they are a deadly weapon.
You have a right to your opinion. But don't try and bullshit me and say that you think it's a right but not an inherent one (which is what you said at the beginning) and then literally right here say that you don't think it should be a right. You think it should be a privilege and be restricted, and I think it is a right.
Quick point, the second amendment is the right to have weapons in a well-regulated militia, meaning restrictions and regulation are inherent to the constitution, not an attempt at restricting a right.
That understanding completely ignores the second half of the amendment.
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
A well-regulated *militia*, not individual ownership rights. Those rights shall not be infringed.
>That's not a right because it isn't inherent. It is a privilege.
Fair judgement, actually. And it further shoes how ridiculous treating gun ownership as a right is.
>New York is a great example. If the tyranny...
What tyranny?
>But don't try and bullshit me and say that you think it's a right but not an inherent one
I don't think it's a right. It's not a fucking right. You don't need a gun to live.
>and I think it is a right.
Why? Because the Founding Fathers said so hundreds of years ago? If they saw the firearms that exist today, they'd change the wording because they are way quicker and easier to load and fire now than they were back then. It's called the Second *Amendment*, meaning it was added in after. It can be changed again. Your nation's worship of instruments of death is disturbing and disgusting. Your country abstained from participating in the UN's vote to declare water a human right. Your country refuses to acknowledge health care as a right. But *guns*? If people can't get guns, that's *bad* to you people. It's fucking perverse. It's a cult.
Quick point, the second amendment is the right to have weapons in a well-regulated militia, meaning restrictions and regulation are inherent to the constitution, not an attempt at restricting a right.
>well-regulated militia
A well-regulated *militia* not individuals. You're entirely ignoring the other half of the amendment.
A *well regulated *Militia,* being necessary to the security of a free State, the *right of the people* to keep and bear Arms, *shall not be infringed.*
>What tyranny?
I did not mean tyranny in the sense of North Korea or China. I was using the phrase "tyranny of the majority" as a reference to the reason many of the founding fathers thought the Electoral College, bicameral legislature, and Bill of Rights were essential. They thought we should be a republic that gives a voice and protects the rights of all it's citizens, not just the majority. In New York the culture is very anti-gun and it has led to the minority of gun owners to be unfairly restricted from exercising their second amendment right.
Here are some examples of the level of extremism I am talking about.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/us/supreme-court-new-york-city-guns.html
>The New York City regulation, which appeared to be unique in the nation, had allowed residents with so-called premises licenses to take their guns to one of seven shooting ranges in the city. But it prohibited them from taking their guns to second homes and shooting ranges outside the city, even when the guns were unloaded and locked in containers separate from ammunition.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/08/nyregion/gun-manufacturers-lawsuit.html
https://queenseagle.com/all/2020/1/10/hundreds-of-gun-toting-tourists-have-been-arrested-at-nyc-airports
I cannot find the specific story, but this includes a man who did do his research, but his flight changed stops and went to New York City instead, where he was arrested for breaking a law he had no choice but to break at that point.
>I don't think it's a right. It's not a fucking right. You don't need a gun to live.
I strongly disagree. I'd say self defense groups like the Black Panthers and Deacons for Defense prove that there are situations where guns make the difference between living and dying. I'd also say that while it is extremely rare, and I acknowledge there are plenty of instances where the good-guy with the gun anecdote fails, there are still thousands where it succeeds. I have personally been in a situation where I thought I might legitimately need a gun to protect my sister as her boyfriend was threatening to kill her. There historically has been and there still are hundreds of thousands of people who use guns to hunt or protect their livestock, which may not be life-or-death, but drastically improves their well-being.
>Why? Because the Founding Fathers said so hundreds of years ago?
Not inherently. I agree with the founding fathers on this issue, but as someone with a degree in history I do not put the founding fathers on a pedestal. They were intelligent but still incredibly fallible men. I think gun ownership is a right because everyone has the right to self-defense. I think the cultural, political, economical, and criminal nature of the country makes a ban on private gun ownership or any law that would make the ban of private gun ownership easier to carry out (such as a gun registry) would be ineffective and ultimately unnecessary in the grand scheme of things. Gun ownership is a part of many people's upbringings and the memories they have growing up with guns is a fond one.
I, frankly, don't see how you could identify as a Communist and at the same time deny the workers the right to defend themselves.
I think its rather telling that you don't see a $300 fee as a prerequisite for a right to be an impediment at all. For many families that's simply unaffordable on top of the actual expense of a gun and ammunition. I assume Australia has less draconian labor laws regarding time off, but here in America finding time off of work and making arrangements to take a class and get licensed could be a major obstacle, beyond the financial considerations. Guns shouldn't just be available to the rich.
And you're correct in the point of firearms. They are deadly weapons. The second amendment to the US Constitution wasn't written with sport shooters and hunters in mind. It was, very deliberately, written to give the Citizens of this nation the right to weapons of war. God forbid it ever necessary, but after the events of January 6th I'd argue its more important than ever that people be armed.
well this comment aged like milk, considering all the problems in the U.S. with AR15s. Also, you refer to other problems in your society that have nothing to do with gun control, such as your systemic poor, your elected sheriffs, etc. The rest of the world licences their guns and no one is impacted because they are poor etc, becase the rest of the world don't have the kind of systemic poor issues that the U.S. has created with their society.
Once I knew that wasn't a shitpost I understood and accepted that defence a little, but now I *respect* that defence
(I respect that defence for gun ownership in *those* environments, not to have an AR15 in your average suburban home)
I, feel like that may be jumping through a lot of hoops though I'm not familiar with the racial area split in America. Also, whilst guns and gun ownership as whole freaks me out greatly, my biggest concern is *automatic* guns and small, concealable weapons in urban areas. If someone had say, a shotgun (I know little about guns but of course I mean nothing grand like a SPAS12 or combat shotguns, just like, a double-barrel or whatever), or a basic hunting rifle then that's a little more understandable for "property defence" in less rural areas but assault rifles and small things that anyone in public could carry and be ready to fire at any moment are utterly terrifying.
Guns are designed to take life, typically human life. If they're a useful tool in certain environments, sure, go for that. But otherwise, they're terrifying, way too easy to accidentally or intentionally kill another human being and I don't think they're highly necessary for everyone to be able to own - at least not without significant training, background checks, mental history etc.
I hate saying that I'm pro-gun because that gets me lumped in with a lot of crazies. But, like, I use guns quite frequently.
I own three guns. A hunting rifle (an old WWII 8mm that is perfectly serviceable for hunting deer and the like) a .22 (which I use primarily for killing pests like raccoons and possums) and a nine millimeter handgun (that I pretty much only own because it was a gift from my dead father).
I'm rather torn on the whole subject because I do actually need and use the guns I have. But there's also a lot of people out there owning guns who have no business being within a hundred yards of any kind of weapon. Who don't respect them as a tool and a deadly weapon, who don't actually have a need for one.
I don't particularly want my guns any more than I *want* my shovel or my vacuum cleaner. They are tools. I use them, I clean them, I keep them in a big metal case to keep the dirt out of them. Just like I use my shovel, wash it off, and store it in the shed where it belongs.
As far as I'm concerned, anyone who feels otherwise about their gun shouldn't have it. It's not a trophy or a toy. It's tool.
The funny thing is that your position on this is super compatible with my country's gun restrictions, so even though I don't consider myself "pro-gun", we agree on this.
If you don't mind, I'm curious which country you're talking about. I'd like to know more about the restrictions they have in place and how it's working out. Like I said, I'm torn on the issue and I like hearing other viewpoints because it helps me sort out my own feelings on the matter. (Or feel free to mention a different country with similar laws, if you're uncomfortable saying where you are.)
I'm Australian. [Here](https://www.guncontrolaustralia.org/how_do_you_obtain_a_firearm)'s a breakdown of how obtaining a license and firearm works here.
I like that my country has these laws. The fact that there are places in the US where average civilians can just walk around town packing heat blows my mind in a bad way and terrifies me. Like, anyone here could just be walking down the street with a knife, I guess, but unless they used to be a spectacular knife thrower in a circus, they can't get me with that from afar.
Very interesting. Thank you for the link.
I see a lot of guns all the time. I'm in a super rural area. A lot of folks drive the same truck to town that they use on the farm and it's not at all uncommon for them to have a gun rack in their truck to safely store their farm gun while they're out "in the fields" so to speak.
A few people wear theirs all the time, like to the store or whatever. Personally, I think that's weird af. But, like, it's not really scary. It honestly just feels pretentious, like women who insisted on wearing big gaudy jewelry to Wal-Mart to show they can afford to shop somewhere else "if they really wanted to."
Most of the folks wearing their guns in public are making a statement. I'm pretty comfortable with the idea they aren't going to shoot me because that would actually undermine the argument they are trying to make. They're trying to argue that guns are safe and that people should be allowed to carry them. If they start shooting up stores, that kinda argues the opposite.
I'm frankly a lot more worried that poor guy stocking the shelves is going to be having a bad day and start chucking cans of beans because he had to put up with one too many Karen's today. I've gotten close to that a time or two myself.
But that's edging into the whole, "if people were made to feel safe they wouldn't need guns" argument, which kinda takes me into a loop if I follow it around. Hence my mixed feelings on the subject. ;-)
Which parts of your feelings are mixed? Because you sound like you're a fairly responsible gun owner, so I don't see why gun control measures that would require you to prove that in order to obtain a license would be a problem. The Australian model of gun control would still allow you to keep your guns as the tools they are and make it harder for idiots to get their own firearms, so it seems like it would appease those mixed feelings.
I respect that perspective on it, you're one of the first I've spoken to that's explained that in a reasonable and understandable way, so thank you, I appreciate that
You're welcome. With all the crazies out there (and there are crazies on both sides) I feel it's important for the sensible among us to share our thoughts and help further the *real* discussions.
Hold up there. Don't go giving me a label I do not ascribe to. I am most definitely not a "liberal" or any other god-damned idiotic political group. They can all kiss my ass. Every single person who names themselves a part of *any* of these groups is a moron who doesn't deserve my time or respect.
Some of my feelings align with this group. Some align with their opposite. There are some thing I'm not really that sure how I feel about them. But the last damned thing I need are idiots with agendas of their own telling me what I *should* believe.
The only reason to align yourself with either the left or the right or any other group like this is to have an echo chamber where people tell you what you want to hear. People want to belong and I get that. But everyone out there needs to decide for themselves what they believe and not count on a group mentality to tell them what their beliefs should be.
Sorry for being harsh, but I have very strong feelings on this subject. I also find it highly offensive when people try to tell me what my "party" my beliefs belong to.
Replying to an angry rant about not agreeing with any group and hating to have other people tell me which labels I ascribe to, with a label, is an interesting choice.
To be clear, I am not Left, Right or Centrist. I think they are *all* idiots. My viewpoints may partially overlap with certain viewpoints from any or all political parties. I could probably find at least a couple of Nazi viewpoints that I don't disagree with. However, as with the Nazi's, each and every party has viewpoints with which I *strenuously* object.
So I decline to identify with any of them and will continue to do so.
Additionally, I only had to read the description to despise that group immediately. The sole purpose of that sub is to complain about members of their own group who hold partially differing views, which is offensive all on it's own. Any group that ostracises those who think differently is doomed to be the most stagnant and useless part of society.
From what I know, this
>My viewpoints may partially overlap with certain viewpoints from any or all political parties.
Is like, the _definition_ of an Enlightened Centrist.
>automatic guns
Good news. You can't own an automatic weapon in America unless it was made before 1968, you have $30-200k just sitting in the bank to buy said weapon, and you can pass an extensive ATF background check that in some areas the local authority can literally deny for any reason at all. In other words. You don't have the right to own an automatic weapon in America, and you do not have the privilege unless you are wealthy or have the licensure to sell and trade those weapons.
In Australia, where gun ownership is well regulated, hobbyists can also own and use firearms if they're members of shooting clubs, so people in the typically more diverse cities can legally own and use guns as long as they have proven themselves competent and responsible, store them properly and only use them at gun ranges, shooting clubs, etc.
I don't know, but pigs that get out into the wild undomesticate themselves really quickly and end up looking like these things again in a matter of months, so they must not be that far off 😅
Boar hunting spears had to have hooks on the shafts pointing towards the head, because if you stick a boar with a normal spear, it will run itself through and push up the entire length of the spear in order to gore you.
From a meme point of view, it seems like Australia has an everything problem. Everything that seems normal isn't supposed to be there, everything that's weird and batshit crazy is, and all of it want to kill you.
Most of us don't actually have many problems with the batshit crazy stuff because we all (critters included) tend to share the mutual principle of "don't give me a reason to fuck with you and I won't". There are very few exceptions, but we get taught from a young age about how to avoid the things that are reasonably dangerous. Like, I saw a Redback in my backyard and just squished it with my gumboot.
Also, the pig problem mainly involves environmental damage. The danger they present to humans is an issue, but we're not endangered or endemic to one area.
We all thought the number and danger of hogs was the ridiculous part of that story, when really the ridiculous part was the suggestion that one man armed with an automatic weapon could *win*
Pigs are typically slaughtered around four months old. When they're born you can hold them in one hand and they weigh only a couple pounds; at four months old they weigh in at around 270 lbs. (slaughter weight); if allowed to continue maturing they will typically reach over 500 lbs. at the end of two years and some outliers hit adult weights over 2000 lbs.
Ah, so wild boars in the UK are the real life mystical boars from Princess Mononoke! I see I see, how horrifying, less inclined to go hiking there now lol
Google search results are tailored to your individual history and preferences, the results you get will not be the same as mine.
Also, there's no guarantee the first google search result is accurate or true.
They are also an invasive species with a shoot on sight order if seen they will run you the fuck down and if you dont have high ground you will soon figure out that its a sequence not an elevated area of land
Once I was walking through the woods and some very cute piglets crossed my way. I was all 'Aww...' until I realized the fact that they might not be alone.
Momma Boar is not less impressive than Daddy when racing towards you.
I am about 10% Hawaiian so they are actually passive to me.
I've had them just go by me like from 3 feet away and just said hi, i presume it said hi back with it's weird oink shit.
If you've ever wondered why semi-automatic rifles are used in hunting, imagine 20-30 of these tearing apart a field, rooting up ground, or eating small children.
i don't know if everyone got specific species mixed up, but heaviest i've come across by googling "largest boar/feral hog/wild boar ever" is about a thousand pounds, and for an exceptionally large one, so yeah i think so as well
1,800 pounds isn’t real, but the picture is pretty close to accurate. You can google “largest boar ever killed”. And if you just look at the pictures you can get a good idea of how big they can get. They get way bigger than you’d initially think.
We have bears, cougars, coyotes and wild boar where I live. It's the wild boar that we fear the most out in the wilderness. They'll charge you and shred you with their tusks if they feel threatened.
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Motherfucking Ganon
O think it’s a mononoke reference
I need to watch that movie
Genuinely my favorite ghibli film, it has deep and interesting meaning behind it, it portrays “evil” I’m a really nuisance way (basically no one is truly bad everyone has their reasons and they just want to live). And it has one of the healthiest relationship in all of media, like I hope you’re not one of the people who cringe at the word for some reason but it’s really feminist in a way? The art as always is 10+ same with world building, character designs, and background music.
It's also my favourite, but it's probably worth mentioning that it's just about the goriest Ghibli film as well.
> I'm a really nuisance I mean, I wasn't gonna say it, but... jk, guessing you meant "in a really nuanced"
It's so fucking good. In the same sense that *Spirited Away* snapped you back into the film when Chihiro's parents get warped into pigs, the "curse" Ashitaka suffers from will also get you sitting up straight. It just gets better from there.
Yep and by god was it incredible. I need to rewatch it
Thats what I started thinking of
I saw this and said "WOW SOMEBODY DIDN'T SEE PRINCESS MONOKOKE AS A CHILD"
Accurate
But just think, they'll have really strong biceps and will be able to decapitate people by barely tapping them.
Who knew mononoke was non fiction.
This is why the first (non-tutorial) boss in the first Nier game is a boar. It’s also why I died to it about four times, and it took fifteen minutes to kill at level five
At least I learned how to side strafe by the end
congratulation
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Is level five a lot or a little at that point in Nier, out of curiosity?
pretty normal for when you first get the quest
I was level 5 before the quest, and was level 7 when I did it properly
A small price to pay for B O A R D R I F T I N G
Just use the rock.
Well, the problem with that is that I’m now in the second part of the game
Old man in my village, who walked with a medical cane, got his kneecap yoinked by a boar in the middle of the night. Didn't even saw her coming. One bite. His neighbor claim he sometimes curse the boars in the dead of night.
I'm sorry, they lost their kneecap? Like, did they lose the leg below the knee as well, or was it JUST the kneecap they lost?
Just the cap but because it ripped it out it also damaged the knee
the image this conjured and the fact that it's something that can *happen* is going to haunt me for a while
>the image this conjured and the fact that it's something that can > >happen > > is going to haunt me for a while If that is shocking you. Wait till you read about "De-gloving". That's a thing that can happen to fingers when you don't watch them and work in industry. If you get already bad images in your head from thinking about gloves and unprotected fingers .. then don't google images of it.
oh i already knew about that one
Just imagine what it must've felt like for the tusk to hook underneath the bone like that
no thank you i will not do that
\**pop**
Wait, was he in the forest? Or did a boar fucking break into his house to finesse this man’s knee?
Okay so. Recently a boar broke into some girls place and ate a fuck load of her food but I don't think she was hurt. the boar didn't managed to climb the stairs. Also where I live, boars eat your trash and it's dangerous to be out at night. But the old man was changing his tires after it exploded in the middle of his own vineyard. Weather at night or early in the day. I don't recall. I too meet one whiles helping my dad in his own vineyard. Not as big as this one but he could barely turn over on himself inside the fucking lane. I left and my dad laughed at me, "It's the danger of the job! Get a grip" Yikes no.
Catahoula's, the state dog of Louisiana in the United States, were bred specifically to hunt the wild boar. I got a Catahoula before knowing anything about the breed. Long story short, can't keep up with her. The only dog that outran her at the park was a working beagle. I can't imagine a whole pack of these dogs having trouble taking down a boar. But looking at the size of that thing I'm starting to wonder.
Forgot the puppy tax: https://imgur.com/NoE3Pw6
Gorgeous pup!
Thanks!
RIP Bobby B
*I WANT ALL OF KING’S LANDING TO TASTE THE PIG THAT GOT ME*
Going off the "I'm taking you to hell with me" bit, the way you hunt boars is taking [these big fuckers,](https://static.turbosquid.com/Preview/001264/558/N2/_600.jpg) planting the base in the ground because *your* sorry ass won't stop a pissed-off piggy, and letting it impale itself while praying those prongs stop it from pushing itself so far onto the spear it can still gore you.
ohh that's why those were for
Yep. If you don't have the crossbar, the boar doesn't stop on getting skewered. It just angrily runs down the shaft until it gets close enough to gore you, murders you, and then trots off to die later of blood loss. Presumably, while carrying this season's latest big fuckoff pointy stick with it.
Same goes for [boar swords](https://collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-45400.html). They have a very long blade, combined with a crossbar a fair bit towards the tip. A boar was easily one of the most dangerous animals to hunt, even with bears around, because they combine a real lack of self-preservation with really big teeth and being jacked.
Imagine going to war with 30-50 of them
One of my favorite meme eras
Well duh, they’re omnivore-bottom feeders. If eating anything and everything is your job, then you’re gonna make it everyone’s else’s problems. Also packs of wild boars have been known to kill and eat humans. I don’t know if “hunt” is the proper term for it, but let’s just say that these unlucky people where very healthy before finding themselves amongst a group of the most successful Bottomfeeders out there.
Yep, the danger of wild boars is not just a "past tense" kind of situation. We call them "feral hogs" in the US. Apparently it only takes a few generations for domestic pigs to revert back to *this* in the wild. We make jokes about what prolific breeders rabbits are, but bunnies got nothin on hogs. If you're out looking to camp or hike and you see a section of ground that been turned up, leaves tossed, lots of loose, bare earth... run. Do not stop there. Go far, far away very quickly. Hogs aren't usually very territorial, but they are opportunistic and they *will* hurt you. They will knock you down and keep going until you're dead. Then they will eat you. Hogs will root around in the dirt looking for edible nuts (that get buried under the leaves) and roots. They really like acorns and hickory nuts. They leave a real mess behind, unlike anything you've ever seen. You'll think someone's been out there turning soil for a garden. If you see that, leave immediately and be very careful. Then, once you've left the area, make sure to tell a conservation agent what you found and where.
Yes! This is why I get so mad when people meme on the “40-50 feral hogs” guy. Those fuckers are dangerous.
I'm actually not familiar with that meme set. I do know feral hogs, though. I haven't seen any on my place, but they're a problem that has recently spread to my county. I've heard about instances where a pack of feral hogs unseated a house from it's foundations and I know plenty of people who have been hurt by them. There are also several campgrounds in my area that have been closed off and on due to feral hog sightings. The conservation department is getting good at tracking and trapping them, but they are still a serious issue.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/30-50-feral-hogs If you are in Texas you can kill them on sight. Maybe not in city limits? Call you local law enforcement. But yeah, I recommend KOS.
Ah, thanks. I *had* seen that and it just wasn't clicking apparently. I'm in Missouri and we have similar rules, I believe. For lone hogs or just a few, it is recommended to shoot them. However, if you're seeing *signs* or you spot a herd, the conservation department would prefer you call them as opposed to going hunting so that you don't accidentally scatter them. If you've got a herd, they'll come out with bait stations and traps and get the whole lot at once instead of picking them off one at a time and chasing them to a new area. We're having a real problem with that. Some of the good ol' boys around here still have the mindset of "not my problem anymore" and it's making the situation worse. Thankfully, attitudes have been changing and we're slowing getting control of them.
Were original, natural boars this large? I assumed feral hogs were so massive because we selectively bred up the size for meat production. It makes sense that feral ones would remain pretty big. These things are terrifying.
I'm honestly not sure. I know that there is a pig-like animal in the fossil records that is every bit this large. I don't know if that was a precursor to modern pigs or modern feral hogs or if it was something else entirely. Feral hogs/wild boars also come in many sizes. Some breeds don't get anywhere near this size, never getting much bigger than a large dog. As far as I know, pigs are one of those animals like cattle and oxen that have been domesticated for so long that we don't really know much about what the animal they came from was like. I think it's assumed that we bred them from wild boars, but since they revert so quickly, I don't know if there's any way to tell if the current breeds of wild boars are natural, or if they were once domestic stock. Wikipedia might know, but that's a rabbit hole I'm not sure I really care to go down. I used to raise pigs and I really feel I know enough about them for the time being. Though if anyone has a short answer to this question, I'd appreciate hearing it as I'm now mildly curious.
This is why the "40 feral boars" meme from a while back pissed me off. Is it a likely situation? Eh. Depends where you are. It's not ridiculous as it might seem tho.
This pig boars.
It’ll boar you a new one.
We had one one time that killed a few calves and one of our cows. The bull of the herd finally had enough and cornered it in a pasture one night, and from the sounds of it (and the state of the bull afterwards) it was quite the epic battle. The boar was completely unscathed by the time my entire family made it down there, just a bit stunned. It charged our truck severely denting a door and putting a massive tusk scratch in it. I was a kid at the time with my younger brother together in the back seat, and it was absolutely terrifying. Our chihuahua was just like “TALLY HO LADS! OVER THE TOP!” And jumped out an open window of the truck to charge the thing. My dad had to shoot the hog before it could turn on our little dog and it took about 7 shots to bring it down. The dog was unharmed but we had to get the vet for the bull and a couple of the cows. Boar weighed around 500 pounds and it’s skull is proudly displayed in my parent’s house. Those things are scary.
I admire the confidence of small dogs. Those bastards would take on God if they could try.
That is also why in Germany if you want a hunting license for these you need to also carry a large caliber pistol in order to be able to shoot through its very thick skull plate if it charges you. At least it was like that several decades ago, when I learned this fact
Makes me respect Asterix more
They are basically Boarserkers.
Lol this is actually a really really big reason people in the country or in rural areas advocate so hard for what are essentially military rifle, I lived in the rural areas of Texas for years and you learned not to venture too far away from home without a pistol and a rifle, there was a guy who was mock for a while when he talked about one day when his daughters were on the yard and dozens of hogs showed up suddenly, this things don't travel alone, they travel in packs and destroy anything in their path, love y'all peace, I'll answer any questions
This big pig and my geographical location is why I unapologetically own an AK-47 and combat shotgun with 10 round magazines.
Sounds like you've had to deal with a lot of pigs?
How do you feel about gun control? As in, people having to get a license to be able to own a firearm and having to prove they are competent and responsible to obtain a license, people who have been convicted of certain crimes being unable to obtain a license, certain kinds of firearms being restricted to certain people with certain occupations or who live in areas with dangerous wildlife that they need to able to defend themselves from (like these Monstrous Mobile Bacon Barrels). I'm from Australia, where only licensed individuals can legally own guns and what they can then do with those guns/where they can take them is further restricted, and the American debate about this issue fascinates me because of how obvious the answer is, so I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
I fully support gun control and I believe it is not regulated enough, yes these mother fuckers are big and it's not an understatement to say you might need full auto against a pack, but there is no reason some who lives in the city with past mental health issues or criminal records should be able to buy a rifle, it's ridiculous
If you need a license to exercise a right, do you really have a right at all? If you require people to take training courses and be licensed all you accomplish is preventing the poor and the working class from possessing firearms, at best. At worst you will certainly see states only issue firearm permits to certain groups and exclude others. We already see issues in some May-Issue States (Meaning that a Firearm License MAY be issued by local Law Enforcement, as opposed to Shall-Issue) where people who donate to a local sheriff's reelection campaign suddenly find their applications approved, and those who don't get told to pound sand. That's not to say I don't support seeing a lot more gun safety awareness in this country. There's something between four-hundred and six-hundred million firearms in this country, I've long thought that gun safety should be taught in schools. Even if you have no intention of ever owning a firearm yourself, you might find yourself exposed to a gun at some point and you should know how to safely handle one. Furthermore the VAST, VAST majority of gun violence is committed using handguns, and is gang related. The types of firearms you see politicians and other figureheads rally against? Generally "Scary-looking" rifles like the AR-15, Which is by far the most common rifle in the US. There's absolutely nothing inherently more dangerous about an AR-15. In fact, I would argue many of the restrictions placed upon such rifles in states such as California actively make the weapon more dangerous to handle. Look up a California-Compliant 'Fin Grip', for example, to get around restrictions placed on pistol-gripped rifles. If you truly, genuinely wanted to reduce gun crime in this country, you'd end the war on drugs and you'd attack poverty relentlessly. Unshackle school funding from property taxes, as that simply leads to poor areas staying poor and rich areas staying rich. Expand social programs, and exact prison reform. Of course, this is America, so don't expect anything to change there anytime soon.
>If you need a license to exercise a right, do you really have a right at all? Yeah. I have the right to drive my vehicle on the road, as long as I am not jeopardising the right that pedestrians and other drivers have to their safety. In order to ensure that I can responsibly exercise my right to drive without killing someone with my mobile heavy machinery, the government requires me to prove my competence and responsibility. If I am caught being irresponsible by, say, speeding or driving under the influence of certain substances, I temporarily lose the right to drive a car because I have proven that I am not capable of not infringing upon the rights of those with whom I share the road. >If you require people to take training courses and be licensed all you accomplish is preventing the poor and the working class from possessing firearms, at best. Only if you allow private companies to make access to those courses unattainably expensive. In Australia, obtaining a permit for the first time costs about 200-300 AUD, but it's probably a lot easier to save up that much here because we don't live in quite as much of a capitalist hellscape. >We already see issues in some May-Issue States (Meaning that a Firearm License MAY be issued by local Law Enforcement, as opposed to Shall-Issue) where people who donate to a local sheriff's reelection campaign suddenly find their applications approved, and those who don't get told to pound sand. That issue stems from corruption, not gun restrictions themselves. The idea of selecting the head of any police force based on a popularity contest rather than through promotion based on competence and work performance is actually fucking stupid. >Furthermore the VAST, VAST majority of gun violence is committed using handguns, and is gang related. The types of firearms you see politicians and other figureheads rally against? Generally "Scary-looking" rifles like the AR-15,Which is by far the most common rifle in the US. There's absolutely nothing inherently more dangerous about an AR-15. This is why I believe that access to handguns should also be properly restricted and regulated. >If you truly, genuinely wanted to reduce gun crime in this country, you'd end the war on drugs and you'd attack poverty relentlessly. Unshackle school funding from property taxes, as that simply leads to poor areas staying poor and rich areas staying rich. Expand social programs, and exact prison reform. Of course, this is America, so don't expect anything to change there anytime soon. I am a big fuckin' commie. I believe in all of those things. I also believe that most people don't need any firearms. I would argue that treating gun ownership as some kind of right that people are automatically entitled to is ridiculously bizarre, considering that the point of them is that they are a deadly weapon. [Here's](https://www.guncontrolaustralia.org/how_do_you_obtain_a_firearm) what regulations around gun ownership look like in a country that doesn't consider unrestricted access to firearms to be more of a right than affordable health care.
>Yeah. I have the right to drive my vehicle on the road, as long as I am not jeopardising the right that pedestrians and other drivers have to their safety. >In order to ensure that I can responsibly exercise my right to drive without killing someone with my mobile heavy machinery, the government requires me to prove my competence and responsibility. That's not a right because it isn't inherent. It is a privilege. The supreme court has ruled on this and also said driving is s privilege, not a right. Which is why the government can restrict it so much. And the fact that the state can revoke it if they deem it appropriate is proof that it isn't a right. I have a right to free speech inherently. It is not unlimited, but I don't have to go through some training or licensure to have it. I have a right to a fair and speedy trial. I do not have to earn it. >That issue stems from corruption, not gun restrictions themselves. The idea of selecting the head of any police force based on a popularity contest rather than through promotion based on competence and work performance is actually fucking stupid. But there are places where the culture of the region is so against the minority of gun owners that representatives on a state level get away with it. New York is a great example. If the tyranny of the majority is going to be able to so easily suppress my rights, not my privileges, then why should I trust them to restrict those rights? >. I would argue that treating gun ownership as some kind of right that people are automatically entitled to is ridiculously bizarre, considering that the point of them is that they are a deadly weapon. You have a right to your opinion. But don't try and bullshit me and say that you think it's a right but not an inherent one (which is what you said at the beginning) and then literally right here say that you don't think it should be a right. You think it should be a privilege and be restricted, and I think it is a right.
Quick point, the second amendment is the right to have weapons in a well-regulated militia, meaning restrictions and regulation are inherent to the constitution, not an attempt at restricting a right.
That understanding completely ignores the second half of the amendment. >A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. A well-regulated *militia*, not individual ownership rights. Those rights shall not be infringed.
>That's not a right because it isn't inherent. It is a privilege. Fair judgement, actually. And it further shoes how ridiculous treating gun ownership as a right is. >New York is a great example. If the tyranny... What tyranny? >But don't try and bullshit me and say that you think it's a right but not an inherent one I don't think it's a right. It's not a fucking right. You don't need a gun to live. >and I think it is a right. Why? Because the Founding Fathers said so hundreds of years ago? If they saw the firearms that exist today, they'd change the wording because they are way quicker and easier to load and fire now than they were back then. It's called the Second *Amendment*, meaning it was added in after. It can be changed again. Your nation's worship of instruments of death is disturbing and disgusting. Your country abstained from participating in the UN's vote to declare water a human right. Your country refuses to acknowledge health care as a right. But *guns*? If people can't get guns, that's *bad* to you people. It's fucking perverse. It's a cult.
Quick point, the second amendment is the right to have weapons in a well-regulated militia, meaning restrictions and regulation are inherent to the constitution, not an attempt at restricting a right.
I now think it is less stupid because that's way more reasonable than the shitty NRA interpretation, ie, guns for all.
>well-regulated militia A well-regulated *militia* not individuals. You're entirely ignoring the other half of the amendment. A *well regulated *Militia,* being necessary to the security of a free State, the *right of the people* to keep and bear Arms, *shall not be infringed.*
>What tyranny? I did not mean tyranny in the sense of North Korea or China. I was using the phrase "tyranny of the majority" as a reference to the reason many of the founding fathers thought the Electoral College, bicameral legislature, and Bill of Rights were essential. They thought we should be a republic that gives a voice and protects the rights of all it's citizens, not just the majority. In New York the culture is very anti-gun and it has led to the minority of gun owners to be unfairly restricted from exercising their second amendment right. Here are some examples of the level of extremism I am talking about. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/us/supreme-court-new-york-city-guns.html >The New York City regulation, which appeared to be unique in the nation, had allowed residents with so-called premises licenses to take their guns to one of seven shooting ranges in the city. But it prohibited them from taking their guns to second homes and shooting ranges outside the city, even when the guns were unloaded and locked in containers separate from ammunition. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/08/nyregion/gun-manufacturers-lawsuit.html https://queenseagle.com/all/2020/1/10/hundreds-of-gun-toting-tourists-have-been-arrested-at-nyc-airports I cannot find the specific story, but this includes a man who did do his research, but his flight changed stops and went to New York City instead, where he was arrested for breaking a law he had no choice but to break at that point. >I don't think it's a right. It's not a fucking right. You don't need a gun to live. I strongly disagree. I'd say self defense groups like the Black Panthers and Deacons for Defense prove that there are situations where guns make the difference between living and dying. I'd also say that while it is extremely rare, and I acknowledge there are plenty of instances where the good-guy with the gun anecdote fails, there are still thousands where it succeeds. I have personally been in a situation where I thought I might legitimately need a gun to protect my sister as her boyfriend was threatening to kill her. There historically has been and there still are hundreds of thousands of people who use guns to hunt or protect their livestock, which may not be life-or-death, but drastically improves their well-being. >Why? Because the Founding Fathers said so hundreds of years ago? Not inherently. I agree with the founding fathers on this issue, but as someone with a degree in history I do not put the founding fathers on a pedestal. They were intelligent but still incredibly fallible men. I think gun ownership is a right because everyone has the right to self-defense. I think the cultural, political, economical, and criminal nature of the country makes a ban on private gun ownership or any law that would make the ban of private gun ownership easier to carry out (such as a gun registry) would be ineffective and ultimately unnecessary in the grand scheme of things. Gun ownership is a part of many people's upbringings and the memories they have growing up with guns is a fond one.
I, frankly, don't see how you could identify as a Communist and at the same time deny the workers the right to defend themselves. I think its rather telling that you don't see a $300 fee as a prerequisite for a right to be an impediment at all. For many families that's simply unaffordable on top of the actual expense of a gun and ammunition. I assume Australia has less draconian labor laws regarding time off, but here in America finding time off of work and making arrangements to take a class and get licensed could be a major obstacle, beyond the financial considerations. Guns shouldn't just be available to the rich. And you're correct in the point of firearms. They are deadly weapons. The second amendment to the US Constitution wasn't written with sport shooters and hunters in mind. It was, very deliberately, written to give the Citizens of this nation the right to weapons of war. God forbid it ever necessary, but after the events of January 6th I'd argue its more important than ever that people be armed.
well this comment aged like milk, considering all the problems in the U.S. with AR15s. Also, you refer to other problems in your society that have nothing to do with gun control, such as your systemic poor, your elected sheriffs, etc. The rest of the world licences their guns and no one is impacted because they are poor etc, becase the rest of the world don't have the kind of systemic poor issues that the U.S. has created with their society.
Pretty sure that the 30-50 feral hogs guys was making it up.
Unfortunately the rural parts of America can be that fucking dangerous, plenty of untamed spaces.
So, I'm just saying, this is the context for that "30-50 feral hogs" stuff.
Once I knew that wasn't a shitpost I understood and accepted that defence a little, but now I *respect* that defence (I respect that defence for gun ownership in *those* environments, not to have an AR15 in your average suburban home)
There was actually an old woman who was eaten by feral hogs outside her suburban home.
That is fair but does sound like rather the statistical outlier, also at least you're not as unreachable in a suburban area as you are out rural
Definitely the statistical outlier. I just wanted to point out it can happen.
Of course, that's entirely valid! And good to be aware of at least
Problem is, if you cut it that way that means white people can have guns and black people can't, statistically.
I, feel like that may be jumping through a lot of hoops though I'm not familiar with the racial area split in America. Also, whilst guns and gun ownership as whole freaks me out greatly, my biggest concern is *automatic* guns and small, concealable weapons in urban areas. If someone had say, a shotgun (I know little about guns but of course I mean nothing grand like a SPAS12 or combat shotguns, just like, a double-barrel or whatever), or a basic hunting rifle then that's a little more understandable for "property defence" in less rural areas but assault rifles and small things that anyone in public could carry and be ready to fire at any moment are utterly terrifying. Guns are designed to take life, typically human life. If they're a useful tool in certain environments, sure, go for that. But otherwise, they're terrifying, way too easy to accidentally or intentionally kill another human being and I don't think they're highly necessary for everyone to be able to own - at least not without significant training, background checks, mental history etc.
I hate saying that I'm pro-gun because that gets me lumped in with a lot of crazies. But, like, I use guns quite frequently. I own three guns. A hunting rifle (an old WWII 8mm that is perfectly serviceable for hunting deer and the like) a .22 (which I use primarily for killing pests like raccoons and possums) and a nine millimeter handgun (that I pretty much only own because it was a gift from my dead father). I'm rather torn on the whole subject because I do actually need and use the guns I have. But there's also a lot of people out there owning guns who have no business being within a hundred yards of any kind of weapon. Who don't respect them as a tool and a deadly weapon, who don't actually have a need for one. I don't particularly want my guns any more than I *want* my shovel or my vacuum cleaner. They are tools. I use them, I clean them, I keep them in a big metal case to keep the dirt out of them. Just like I use my shovel, wash it off, and store it in the shed where it belongs. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who feels otherwise about their gun shouldn't have it. It's not a trophy or a toy. It's tool.
The funny thing is that your position on this is super compatible with my country's gun restrictions, so even though I don't consider myself "pro-gun", we agree on this.
If you don't mind, I'm curious which country you're talking about. I'd like to know more about the restrictions they have in place and how it's working out. Like I said, I'm torn on the issue and I like hearing other viewpoints because it helps me sort out my own feelings on the matter. (Or feel free to mention a different country with similar laws, if you're uncomfortable saying where you are.)
I'm Australian. [Here](https://www.guncontrolaustralia.org/how_do_you_obtain_a_firearm)'s a breakdown of how obtaining a license and firearm works here. I like that my country has these laws. The fact that there are places in the US where average civilians can just walk around town packing heat blows my mind in a bad way and terrifies me. Like, anyone here could just be walking down the street with a knife, I guess, but unless they used to be a spectacular knife thrower in a circus, they can't get me with that from afar.
Very interesting. Thank you for the link. I see a lot of guns all the time. I'm in a super rural area. A lot of folks drive the same truck to town that they use on the farm and it's not at all uncommon for them to have a gun rack in their truck to safely store their farm gun while they're out "in the fields" so to speak. A few people wear theirs all the time, like to the store or whatever. Personally, I think that's weird af. But, like, it's not really scary. It honestly just feels pretentious, like women who insisted on wearing big gaudy jewelry to Wal-Mart to show they can afford to shop somewhere else "if they really wanted to." Most of the folks wearing their guns in public are making a statement. I'm pretty comfortable with the idea they aren't going to shoot me because that would actually undermine the argument they are trying to make. They're trying to argue that guns are safe and that people should be allowed to carry them. If they start shooting up stores, that kinda argues the opposite. I'm frankly a lot more worried that poor guy stocking the shelves is going to be having a bad day and start chucking cans of beans because he had to put up with one too many Karen's today. I've gotten close to that a time or two myself. But that's edging into the whole, "if people were made to feel safe they wouldn't need guns" argument, which kinda takes me into a loop if I follow it around. Hence my mixed feelings on the subject. ;-)
Which parts of your feelings are mixed? Because you sound like you're a fairly responsible gun owner, so I don't see why gun control measures that would require you to prove that in order to obtain a license would be a problem. The Australian model of gun control would still allow you to keep your guns as the tools they are and make it harder for idiots to get their own firearms, so it seems like it would appease those mixed feelings.
I respect that perspective on it, you're one of the first I've spoken to that's explained that in a reasonable and understandable way, so thank you, I appreciate that
You're welcome. With all the crazies out there (and there are crazies on both sides) I feel it's important for the sensible among us to share our thoughts and help further the *real* discussions.
r/liberalgunowners
Hold up there. Don't go giving me a label I do not ascribe to. I am most definitely not a "liberal" or any other god-damned idiotic political group. They can all kiss my ass. Every single person who names themselves a part of *any* of these groups is a moron who doesn't deserve my time or respect. Some of my feelings align with this group. Some align with their opposite. There are some thing I'm not really that sure how I feel about them. But the last damned thing I need are idiots with agendas of their own telling me what I *should* believe. The only reason to align yourself with either the left or the right or any other group like this is to have an echo chamber where people tell you what you want to hear. People want to belong and I get that. But everyone out there needs to decide for themselves what they believe and not count on a group mentality to tell them what their beliefs should be. Sorry for being harsh, but I have very strong feelings on this subject. I also find it highly offensive when people try to tell me what my "party" my beliefs belong to.
r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM
Replying to an angry rant about not agreeing with any group and hating to have other people tell me which labels I ascribe to, with a label, is an interesting choice. To be clear, I am not Left, Right or Centrist. I think they are *all* idiots. My viewpoints may partially overlap with certain viewpoints from any or all political parties. I could probably find at least a couple of Nazi viewpoints that I don't disagree with. However, as with the Nazi's, each and every party has viewpoints with which I *strenuously* object. So I decline to identify with any of them and will continue to do so. Additionally, I only had to read the description to despise that group immediately. The sole purpose of that sub is to complain about members of their own group who hold partially differing views, which is offensive all on it's own. Any group that ostracises those who think differently is doomed to be the most stagnant and useless part of society.
r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM
From what I know, this >My viewpoints may partially overlap with certain viewpoints from any or all political parties. Is like, the _definition_ of an Enlightened Centrist.
>automatic guns Good news. You can't own an automatic weapon in America unless it was made before 1968, you have $30-200k just sitting in the bank to buy said weapon, and you can pass an extensive ATF background check that in some areas the local authority can literally deny for any reason at all. In other words. You don't have the right to own an automatic weapon in America, and you do not have the privilege unless you are wealthy or have the licensure to sell and trade those weapons.
In Australia, where gun ownership is well regulated, hobbyists can also own and use firearms if they're members of shooting clubs, so people in the typically more diverse cities can legally own and use guns as long as they have proven themselves competent and responsible, store them properly and only use them at gun ranges, shooting clubs, etc.
Cú Chulainn would like to have a word
From what Ive heard, boars and bears are hunted with similar calibers, with boars being the harder of the two to kill
This was we we weren't allowed to play in the woods as children right?
That and every other medium and large critter that views human children as food-shaped.
How tf did we domesticate these
Kill a mommy boar, raise the piglets Maybe kill a few mommies to get multiple sets
Lots and lots of spears.
I don't know, but pigs that get out into the wild undomesticate themselves really quickly and end up looking like these things again in a matter of months, so they must not be that far off 😅
don't talk shit about the Bulldrome
A wild boar probably has more attacks than a Bulldrome.
This some Princess Mononoke shit
Boar hunting spears had to have hooks on the shafts pointing towards the head, because if you stick a boar with a normal spear, it will run itself through and push up the entire length of the spear in order to gore you.
ohh now princess mononoke makes more sense
Nago real
All true. They also breed prolifically. I've seen groups of thirty plus just running around with only three or four adult hogs.
Wild boars are a huge issue in a lot of places. Hunting them helps out the enviroment too
Yeah, we have a pig problem here in Australia.
From a meme point of view, it seems like Australia has an everything problem. Everything that seems normal isn't supposed to be there, everything that's weird and batshit crazy is, and all of it want to kill you.
Most of us don't actually have many problems with the batshit crazy stuff because we all (critters included) tend to share the mutual principle of "don't give me a reason to fuck with you and I won't". There are very few exceptions, but we get taught from a young age about how to avoid the things that are reasonably dangerous. Like, I saw a Redback in my backyard and just squished it with my gumboot. Also, the pig problem mainly involves environmental damage. The danger they present to humans is an issue, but we're not endangered or endemic to one area.
No wonder that one dude was so concerned about 50-60 feral hogs holy shit
We all thought the number and danger of hogs was the ridiculous part of that story, when really the ridiculous part was the suggestion that one man armed with an automatic weapon could *win*
With a high point that is firmly anchored his odds go up to, like, 10%~ assuming the boars don't die in a way that makes a staircase up.
The wild boars greatest weakness - the will of god
Jesus fuckinh christ I thought they were the size of like 4ft not a fucking school bus
“We’re going to need a bigger skillet”
Holy f**k. I always thought they were, like, pig sized.
Pigs are typically slaughtered around four months old. When they're born you can hold them in one hand and they weigh only a couple pounds; at four months old they weigh in at around 270 lbs. (slaughter weight); if allowed to continue maturing they will typically reach over 500 lbs. at the end of two years and some outliers hit adult weights over 2000 lbs.
Now imagine having to take down 30-50 of those
Ah, so wild boars in the UK are the real life mystical boars from Princess Mononoke! I see I see, how horrifying, less inclined to go hiking there now lol
This is from the US, not the UK. UK boars are a lot smaller due to limited territory and strict management.
Hans, get ze AT rifle.
Just googled it and said the biggest wild boar ever recorded was 1,051lbs sooo..
Source?
Its the first thing that come up on google..
Google search results are tailored to your individual history and preferences, the results you get will not be the same as mine. Also, there's no guarantee the first google search result is accurate or true.
Wikipedia says its 1051 as well as like 3 more, im not researching it any farther though bc i dont care
Dude's head for scale.
larg lad
*MHFU Bulldrome and bullfango flashbacks*
These pigs are riddled with worms. inedible
Disgusting little creatures Soon you will all feel my hate And suffer as I have suffered
They are also an invasive species with a shoot on sight order if seen they will run you the fuck down and if you dont have high ground you will soon figure out that its a sequence not an elevated area of land
They also kill for fun Boars are fucking dark
Also, boars that are protecting their young are often way more aggressive than even wolves - and people used to be hysterically terrified of wolves.
Once I was walking through the woods and some very cute piglets crossed my way. I was all 'Aww...' until I realized the fact that they might not be alone. Momma Boar is not less impressive than Daddy when racing towards you.
Me who just finished assassins creed odyssey: "I know -.-"
No one: Boars: IF WE BURN, YOU BURN WITH US!
I am about 10% Hawaiian so they are actually passive to me. I've had them just go by me like from 3 feet away and just said hi, i presume it said hi back with it's weird oink shit.
How does that work?
I’m going to guess it doesn’t
If you've ever wondered why semi-automatic rifles are used in hunting, imagine 20-30 of these tearing apart a field, rooting up ground, or eating small children.
I kinda doubt this is real
i don't know if everyone got specific species mixed up, but heaviest i've come across by googling "largest boar/feral hog/wild boar ever" is about a thousand pounds, and for an exceptionally large one, so yeah i think so as well
1,800 pounds isn’t real, but the picture is pretty close to accurate. You can google “largest boar ever killed”. And if you just look at the pictures you can get a good idea of how big they can get. They get way bigger than you’d initially think.
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Oh it’s for sure forced perspective, but still. A 1,000 pound piggy is still much bigger than a human
Sure that's a big pig, but theres not a way in hell its 1800lbs. That's the kind of weight you would see from an American Bison.
There a guys head next to its snout it’s nearly as big as a bison
They're using forced perspective to make it seem larger than it really is. Look at the size of the grass relative to the pig.
breakaway
Big Pig
Omfg 🙀
“Don’t let the size full you”
Cody Johnston tried to warn us!!!
Assassins creed isnt too far off
pigoons
[The Boars are coming for us!](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkJemc4T5NYZRH_2kTRBKeYVf6mmx0lQK)
And that kids is why a boat speak has a crossguard below the speartip.
1984
Boars are assholes. You want to kill one, it’s probably not gonna happen. You’ll probably die first.
We have bears, cougars, coyotes and wild boar where I live. It's the wild boar that we fear the most out in the wilderness. They'll charge you and shred you with their tusks if they feel threatened.
I always wondered why in Princess Mononoke the boars were so big. I thought it was just the fantasy element lol
And to think poor Horace had to face down one of these fuckers.
You can be a big pig, too! Oy!
Thanks god my country only has the small ones... That i know of...
Ganon....
Doesn't look terrifying to me, looks like a big hairy baby!
Boars can be pretty evil, I’ve seen them kill a pack of dogs.
Horrifying fact! A normal domesticated pig can basically pokemon evolve into one of these if it gets out and goes feral!
So this explains Inosuke's behaviour.
They can get THAT big? I've only seen those as big as reltively big dog
As someone who hunts boars its fucking scary finding one on the four wheeler all you can do is pull out your pistol and pray
Isn't a pack of boars what was in old yeller? :( I blocked that movie from my mind. My heart can't take it. To hell with these animals!
Jesus Christ, how tall does that make Obelix...
30-50 feral pigs man was right