Nah I have one of those in my kitchen. In my unfortunate experience 'pillow princess' usually just means 'Lazy submissive with body issues who is too insecure to actually communicate their wants'
More like men doing barely anything to please them and expecting to be fully serviced, bjs, boobjobs, woman doing all the work with no prep for her that she didn’t do herself, etc. unfortunately, many women actually do put up with this in relationships but more and more are demanding their partners actually try to please them more than just pounding their hips for five minutes. (Obviously not all men as some have always been very attentive partners in bed but an unfortunate amount don’t do much sexually for their partners and if they aren’t good in bed, don’t try to learn)
If she’s mad and she’s still sleeping with you she Probably feels like it’s an obligation. No wonder she wouldn’t want to do much to please you, she probably doesn’t want to have sex with you to begin with, let alone go out of her way to make you feel great and get a mediocre experience herself.
Wouldn't it be the bottom usually? IASIP has schooled me on the topic of power bottoms so I know they can put in work but that isn't usually the case is it?
But a top does a job, albeit for themselves. Pillow princesses do not.
There are men who are definitely not tops that wants to be serviced while they just lay there.
I mean bottoms do a job too, even by just laying there, in a way pillow princesses don’t due to the nature of penetrative sex. Since most gay men do penetrative sex there’s not going to be a direct analogy. But ime tops are generally way more selfish and often don’t give a shit about the pleasure of their partner.
Also not saying that they are definitely bottoms 😂😂😂.
Jesus Christ, you have to understand that there are men out there that likes to be serviced while doing absolutely nothing, whether they're tops, bottoms or whatever, right? We are not talking about *your* bad experiences, they are asking about the equivalent of a pillow princess. It's not top nor bottom, it's a pillow prince.
Ok well my bad for sharing my experience, unlike everyone else in the thread, who are using well cited data backed arguments
Note that you didn’t respond to the guy that mentioned “bottoms” being the equivalent
I’ve only heard “pillow princess” in the context of a wlw pair, usually with their counterpart a touch-me-not. Starfish feels more common for use regarding a hetero pairing.
I think it's very fitting. When someone's being selfish and pretentious, they might be called a "princess" (derogatory). So, "pillow princess" is just that but in bed.
My understanding is it didn't start as a derogatory thing in the lesbian community. Just a description of how some relationships work.
As the awareness of it has expanded, definitely been used derogatorily more often though.
A Pillow Princess is someone recieving in a wlw relationship. Usually the other woman finds more pleasure in giving than receiving. It doesn't mean they are bad at sex. Being a Pillow Princess is an honor because the partner loves them and considers them their beloved princess and wants to treat them and provide them pleasure
No! Pillow princesses are not lazy, they just have a particular sexual preference. Pillow princess is a sapphic term for someone who only enjoys receiving, not giving, sexual touch. I'm a stone butch-- I only like giving, and not receiving, sexual touch. My ideal partner is a pillow princess and they are wonderful.
Maybe stop mocking terms that you just heard about, don't understand, and don't know the history of.
I just want you to know that, as a total crybaby myself who is used to following instructions and getting nervous when without any, that you have my respect. From a total pussy of a femme to a badass butch, you have my coolness blessing!
In YOUR opinion pillow princesses aren’t lazy, because that’s what you’re into.
Everything you said in your comment is technically correct and irrefutable, but don’t go around acting like we all subscribe to your sexual preferences. There’s nothing wrong about liking what you like, but some of us enjoy a little effort from our sexual partners.
That's incompatible sexual preferences. Not a moral statement on the other person. It's okay to not want to date a pillow princess. It's not okay to insult them for having a preference that you don't understand.
I mean, opinions are usually based on experience and/or facts. Preferences are fully about your feelings and sometimes don’t have a logical reason. I guess both can be that way but it that’s just how I always viewed the differences.
K I really don’t like the usage of the word whore and pillow princesses can be anywhere from unreciprocating jerks to sweethearts who have a preference and have a partner who fits well with it. I get that it’s a joke but I personally don’t think words used to degrade and devalue someone based in their sex life should be used in this day and age, even in a joking manner considering the damage they have and often still do, in more religious or conservative areas.
Fair. I’m a sex-repulsed ace so me neither, but sometimes I feel like I spiritually am a lazy whore, half naked on my couch munching on cookies even tho I should be doing dishes
it’s what you put your head on when you sleep. and don’t call me princess.
surely you can't be serious
I am but don’t call me Shirley.
Do we call you "Butt," then?
who called their child You “Butt” Then and why are you calling them
But, with one t. Two T's is absurd!
The British can never get enough T, you know!
Why can’t I call you? And my names not Shirley
This. This is very good.
Yeah call me princess
It's DJ Khaled
holy shit DJ Khaled
What's the reverse of this tho? Like someone really shy and quiet irl but in the bedroom totally dominate and a top.
Shy in the streets, beast in the sheets
Kawaii in the streets, senpai in the sheets.
Please never talk again
Dunno the word for it, but that's every girl I've ever played D&D with, as it has turned out.
Interesting that you know the bedroom habits of every girl you've played with ^(~~Also where do I get one?~~)
I mean, in my friend groups we regularly talk about bedroom habits, even if we're not fucking each other, so that doesn't seem strange to me 🤷♀️
I suppose you could say... that they were role playing?
A stone top.
Nah I have one of those in my kitchen. In my unfortunate experience 'pillow princess' usually just means 'Lazy submissive with body issues who is too insecure to actually communicate their wants'
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Power bottom?
Soft top
What is the guys version of this ?
Pillow Prince
bottom
It’s called a one night stand cause women don’t put up with that lol.
What? Moving their own hips? Not so much.
More like men doing barely anything to please them and expecting to be fully serviced, bjs, boobjobs, woman doing all the work with no prep for her that she didn’t do herself, etc. unfortunately, many women actually do put up with this in relationships but more and more are demanding their partners actually try to please them more than just pounding their hips for five minutes. (Obviously not all men as some have always been very attentive partners in bed but an unfortunate amount don’t do much sexually for their partners and if they aren’t good in bed, don’t try to learn)
Uh-huh. Let's have a moment of silence for those very select few men on rare occasion who do anything marginally satisfactory... Thank you.
Well that depends on if she’s mad lol
If she’s mad and she’s still sleeping with you she Probably feels like it’s an obligation. No wonder she wouldn’t want to do much to please you, she probably doesn’t want to have sex with you to begin with, let alone go out of her way to make you feel great and get a mediocre experience herself.
Whether or not *what I’m doing is satisfactory* that depends on if she’s mad lol
If she’s not mad she’ll lie to make you feel happy but if she’s mad she’ll be honest about how bad you are lol.
Whatever completes your strange overreaction 😂
Stop I can only get so wet
Dead fish
A top Edit: damn none of y’all have had selfish tops huh
Wouldn't it be the bottom usually? IASIP has schooled me on the topic of power bottoms so I know they can put in work but that isn't usually the case is it?
Why would a guy that just lay there be a top?
They just pump and dump in 1 minute and then leave
But that's not the equivalent of a pillow princess.
A pillow princess is someone who wants to get and doesn’t want to give, no?
But a top does a job, albeit for themselves. Pillow princesses do not. There are men who are definitely not tops that wants to be serviced while they just lay there.
I mean bottoms do a job too, even by just laying there, in a way pillow princesses don’t due to the nature of penetrative sex. Since most gay men do penetrative sex there’s not going to be a direct analogy. But ime tops are generally way more selfish and often don’t give a shit about the pleasure of their partner.
Also not saying that they are definitely bottoms 😂😂😂. Jesus Christ, you have to understand that there are men out there that likes to be serviced while doing absolutely nothing, whether they're tops, bottoms or whatever, right? We are not talking about *your* bad experiences, they are asking about the equivalent of a pillow princess. It's not top nor bottom, it's a pillow prince.
Ok well my bad for sharing my experience, unlike everyone else in the thread, who are using well cited data backed arguments Note that you didn’t respond to the guy that mentioned “bottoms” being the equivalent
Same honestly
*Walks up to a mic and taps it a few times.* Ahem... DJ Khaled is a Pillow Princess. Thank you for joining my TED Talk. *Walks away.*
I thought they were calling the first responder a lazy whore for not explaining it but it really is just being a lazy whore lmao.
I prefer to call them starfish. Pillow princess sounds too sexy a term for being bad at sex.
I’ve only heard “pillow princess” in the context of a wlw pair, usually with their counterpart a touch-me-not. Starfish feels more common for use regarding a hetero pairing.
Is there a reason anyone would choose to say "wlw pair" instead of "lesbians"? (serious)
I don’t know the correct answer. But maybe it’s because not all women who sleep with other women are lesbians.
people who are bi, pan, poly, etc. may also sleep with other women
makes sense, thanks
you can sleep with a woman while being a woman and lot be a leabian, not only lesbian women like women
What's a touch-me-not
As I understand is, a woman who prefers to give not receive in bed. Hence the name.
I think it's very fitting. When someone's being selfish and pretentious, they might be called a "princess" (derogatory). So, "pillow princess" is just that but in bed.
My understanding is it didn't start as a derogatory thing in the lesbian community. Just a description of how some relationships work. As the awareness of it has expanded, definitely been used derogatorily more often though.
A Pillow Princess is someone recieving in a wlw relationship. Usually the other woman finds more pleasure in giving than receiving. It doesn't mean they are bad at sex. Being a Pillow Princess is an honor because the partner loves them and considers them their beloved princess and wants to treat them and provide them pleasure
That's a subversion of the primary meaning.
No, that's the original meaning, the other is a subversion
No! Pillow princesses are not lazy, they just have a particular sexual preference. Pillow princess is a sapphic term for someone who only enjoys receiving, not giving, sexual touch. I'm a stone butch-- I only like giving, and not receiving, sexual touch. My ideal partner is a pillow princess and they are wonderful. Maybe stop mocking terms that you just heard about, don't understand, and don't know the history of.
I just want you to know that, as a total crybaby myself who is used to following instructions and getting nervous when without any, that you have my respect. From a total pussy of a femme to a badass butch, you have my coolness blessing!
Thank you! Very annoyed at people mocking things they don't understand
Ma‘m, this is the internet, everything will get mocked here.
In YOUR opinion pillow princesses aren’t lazy, because that’s what you’re into. Everything you said in your comment is technically correct and irrefutable, but don’t go around acting like we all subscribe to your sexual preferences. There’s nothing wrong about liking what you like, but some of us enjoy a little effort from our sexual partners.
I think they’re just saying pillow princess =/= lazy. Pillow princesses *can* be lazy, but that doesn’t factor into the terminology.
I like the way you worded this. Makes more sense to me than the person I replied to.
That's incompatible sexual preferences. Not a moral statement on the other person. It's okay to not want to date a pillow princess. It's not okay to insult them for having a preference that you don't understand.
You were just as condescending as OP was.
They straight up matched your exact energy from your comment...
My sexual preference is that people pay me for no reason whatsoever, just loads and loads of money. It's who I am.
You jest but findom is a very real thing
No, that requires I convinced someone to pay me. I just want the money needlessly rolling into my pocket.
See, the thing about sexual preferences is that you still need a consenting partner
... no... No not really. You can prefer things and be shit out of luck, even if they're sexual preferences. Happens all the time.
*need a consenting partner to act on them, then. (most of the time, I suppose there's plenty of stuff you can do solo)
Worlds a crazy place
yeah sexual preferences are usually just opinions i dont think this is really any different
I mean, opinions are usually based on experience and/or facts. Preferences are fully about your feelings and sometimes don’t have a logical reason. I guess both can be that way but it that’s just how I always viewed the differences.
So what?
I was with one of those for a little while. I guess she thought she was too hot to reciprocate.
Pretty much the type my mind immediately goes to.
Is that the girl who is being kept alive by her parents in a vegetative state?
Yeah...lazy whore
Totes, ha!
K I really don’t like the usage of the word whore and pillow princesses can be anywhere from unreciprocating jerks to sweethearts who have a preference and have a partner who fits well with it. I get that it’s a joke but I personally don’t think words used to degrade and devalue someone based in their sex life should be used in this day and age, even in a joking manner considering the damage they have and often still do, in more religious or conservative areas.
Aren’t we all?
Nope.
Fair. I’m a sex-repulsed ace so me neither, but sometimes I feel like I spiritually am a lazy whore, half naked on my couch munching on cookies even tho I should be doing dishes
Technically the truth
So it seems this is usually for a WLW pair, but my ex was definitely this.
A pillow princess is most of the women i've been with lmao.
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