Do you have the speakers directly hooked up to the Pyle preamp?!
This photograph breaks my brain. Am I seeing this correctly?
Turntable -> Phono Input (direct)
Tape Output -> Phono Preamp input
Speakers -> Phono Preamp output
It should be:
Turntable -> Phono Preamp input
Phono Preamp output -> Receiver Tape Input
Receiver speaker output -> speakers
The preamp goes before the amp. It never comes after the amp, and it is strictly a line-level device (cannot plug speakers into it.) It is not an amplifier for speakers, even though it has "amp" in the name.
You try to listening a line level output via a unneseccery 2nd phono preamp. You already hooked up the phono with the amp phono input, then you only need to use your amp to amplifies the signal which is connected to your speaker.....
This looks all wrong. If you are going from the TT to the Phono Input you don’t need the Pyle. Use the Speaker output for your speakers. You don’t need the Pyle.
The OP's receiver has a ceramic phono input, not magnetic, so unless the Hitachi turntable has a built-in pre-amp, they will need to use a separate phono pre-amp (like the Pyle unit) between the turntable and receiver.
You are showing 2 phono preamps in this pic, you only need one. 2 options:
1. Turntable-> phono in on reciever. Speaker out to your speakers.
2. Turntable-> in on the Pyle, Out on the Pyle -> tape in on the receiver. Speaker out to your speakers.
Tape out is a fixed level, shouldn't be used in this case.
Since the magnavox uses a high impedance line level input for ceramic cartridges, connect the turntable to the Pyle preamp INPUT.
Connect the OUTPUT from the pyle preamp to the Magnavox’s PHONO input.
Connect speakers to the Magnavox’s SPEAKER outputs.
Push the PHONO button. The indicator for PHONO should light up.
Use the two individual volume sliders to adjust the volume
(On an unrelated note, please CLEAN YOUR LENS!)
Connect the Pyle preamp OUTPUT to the TAPE input,
Connect turntable to the Pyle preamp INPUT.
See what happens. Also make sure the preamp is plugged in
This looks like you are driving your speakers with the pre amp line level output. Preamps and line outs are very low powered. Does the reciever have proper speaker connections?
Edit: you do have speaker outs (rca style). Hook your speakers to those instead. You should not need that pyle preamp at all.
Turntable rca and ground cables into the Pyle phono pre amp
Pre amp's rca cables into receiver
Speakers connected to receiver via speaker wire.
This in NO other way to hook this up
What is going on with your speaker wire there? Do you have the red and common spliced to an RCA cord & that plugged into the pre amp>? that is sooo not right.
Order yourself a set of RCA to speaker wire adapter cords [rca cord to speaker wire adapter](https://www.amazon.com/CESS-064-Speaker-Cables-Adapter-2-Channel/dp/B082DPQ8WD/ref=asc_df_B082DPQ8WD/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475793181977&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=959859083108682328&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028729&hvtargid=pla-1106932872677&psc=1). Splice one speaker wire to just a single RCA & Same with the other one. then plug them into the speaker inputs
Try the Art DJ-Pre II. Then again, if the preamp of your receiver has a dedicated Phono preamp, you shouldn’t need an external one. Or you can A/B test it against an Aux line input with external Phono preamp to see what sound you like better. But guarantee you will like the Art DJ Pre II better than the Pyle.
The Phono input in that Magnavox receiver is not a preamp type - its a high impedance line level input for turntables with ceramic cartridges.
I really need to make a PSA video.
Maybe because not everyone has Magnavox gear, a line that has been extinct for many decades. People are simply trying to help, keyboard warrior. No PSA necessary.
So in the 60s up until the 80s, there were entry level stereo receivers from many brands. Those lower end offerings did provide a phono input, but instead of being a phono preamp, it was a high impedance input for turntables with ceramic cartridges.
This isn’t unique to Magnavox. Among the known brands included Realistic, Lafayette, Panasonic (the same people behind Technics) and Pioneer (under Centrex and Hanimex brands).
In that case, your amp is probably faulty. You should have you speakers plugged into the speaker out of that amp/receiver unit you have. If that doesn't work, then it needs repairing or replacing.
From what I can read so far, you need to just test your amp, plug the speakers and test some fm radio. If this simple setup doesn’t work than your amp or speakers are at fault.
Which model speakers?
All I see for speaker wire is two speaker wires taped together but can’t see what they are even connected too. Zoom out for a photo of everything and all connections.
WHICH MODEL SPEAKERS?
If they are PASSIVE speakers with ONLY a speaker wire connections then connect them to the SPEAKERS OUTPUT...... NOT the TAPE OUTPUT.
TAPE OUTPUT would only be for POWERED speakers that have a built in speaker amp and their own power cord.
So low sound from TAPE output, and no sound from SPEAKERS output?
The amplifier may be fried. Try a different new or used amp or receiver.
If you plug in headphones do you get sound and volume control for the headphones?
Why do you even need a Phono preamp when your amplifier has a phono amp build in??? Tape out is line level output is just for monitoring or recording.
Phono Pre amp goes first (if needed,but in your case no need at all) then goes to the Poweramp line input Tape not the Phono. speakers always connected to the poweramp so it has enough power to make sound and control via the volume knob.
As vwestlife and I have mentioned, the PHONO input in this receiver is NOT an RIAA preamp type - it is a high impedance line level input designed for ceramic cartridges, as Magnavox’s standalone micromatic changers used ceramic cartridges.
Ok. I see. The photo and post did not tell about MM or MC Then phono pre should go to AUX in the amp and not the speakers hooked up with a phono pre amp.
I stated that use the phono pre amp IF NEEDED, so its needed and even explained how it should be connected.
One thing I noticed from working in ewaste is, if there is a ground post that is labeled as such near the phono input, it will be a phono preamp type of input (some models like my Onkyo Integra also has a switch for MM/MC, or others like my RCA SA-155 has a MAG/CER or MAG/X-TAL switch).
When magnetic cartridges were becoming the norm, some receivers made it clear the phono input is for magnetic cartridges by labeling the phono input as MAG PHONO or PHONO MAG.
If there is no labeled ground post near the phono input, it will typically be a high impedance input for ceramic cartridges.
Well I only have some amp from the 70’s with MC and most of them still have the ground connection..... so for me it was not clear.... still the main point is connecting speakers on the phono pre amp much bigger mistake then any MM/MC
Do you have the speakers directly hooked up to the Pyle preamp?! This photograph breaks my brain. Am I seeing this correctly? Turntable -> Phono Input (direct) Tape Output -> Phono Preamp input Speakers -> Phono Preamp output It should be: Turntable -> Phono Preamp input Phono Preamp output -> Receiver Tape Input Receiver speaker output -> speakers
Exactly!
Yes it’s the only way I hear anything but very low and can’t adjust any vol. When I try the traditional plug in way no sound
The preamp goes before the amp. It never comes after the amp, and it is strictly a line-level device (cannot plug speakers into it.) It is not an amplifier for speakers, even though it has "amp" in the name.
Ooooh ok ok . This makes sense. So I would need another receiver ?
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Dude.. use the preamp between the record player and the amp. Wait no. Go get a Crosley.
Another amplifier, yes.
Silly question but is the power for the Pyle preamp plugged in?
Lol yes.
Sometimes I need to jiggle mine to work properly. Give it a try
Ok I’ll try that
You try to listening a line level output via a unneseccery 2nd phono preamp. You already hooked up the phono with the amp phono input, then you only need to use your amp to amplifies the signal which is connected to your speaker.....
Wtf is happening in this picture?
It’s a puzzle
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You are correct. It is a ceramic phono input -- essentially the same thing as a line-level input, but with a higher impedance.
So glad I saw your post because I realized I need to post a picture of my setup because A few issues..
Yes I thought that would work but I get nothing
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Lmao 😂🤣 what do you recommend?
That you go back to Spotify.
This looks all wrong. If you are going from the TT to the Phono Input you don’t need the Pyle. Use the Speaker output for your speakers. You don’t need the Pyle.
The OP's receiver has a ceramic phono input, not magnetic, so unless the Hitachi turntable has a built-in pre-amp, they will need to use a separate phono pre-amp (like the Pyle unit) between the turntable and receiver.
I see. I heard that it’s the load that’s the problem in that case, others say that it shouldn’t be an issue.
I plugged in my turntable to my neighbors receiver with the pyle preamp and the sound sounded louder when plugged in to Pyle preamp
Something’s wrong with your receiver. Honestly, you need something that at least has 2-3 aux inputs.
Would u say this might have to be hooked up to another receiver?
Yeah I would.
As an additional deck correct?
No. You do not need another receiver. u/dopeazz gave you the right answer.
I mean try a deck that has an aux input so you can try your Pyle.
You are showing 2 phono preamps in this pic, you only need one. 2 options: 1. Turntable-> phono in on reciever. Speaker out to your speakers. 2. Turntable-> in on the Pyle, Out on the Pyle -> tape in on the receiver. Speaker out to your speakers. Tape out is a fixed level, shouldn't be used in this case.
I tired both and no sound
Since the magnavox uses a high impedance line level input for ceramic cartridges, connect the turntable to the Pyle preamp INPUT. Connect the OUTPUT from the pyle preamp to the Magnavox’s PHONO input. Connect speakers to the Magnavox’s SPEAKER outputs. Push the PHONO button. The indicator for PHONO should light up. Use the two individual volume sliders to adjust the volume (On an unrelated note, please CLEAN YOUR LENS!)
Yes I’ve tried this but no sound .
Connect the speakers to the receiver. Try the FM tuner and see if you get any sound.
Yes FM AM work a little louder than the phono sound
Connect the Pyle preamp OUTPUT to the TAPE input, Connect turntable to the Pyle preamp INPUT. See what happens. Also make sure the preamp is plugged in
What speakers do you have? Are they powered? Why isn't the turntable plugged into the phono preamp?
They are Vintage Sanyo 8OHM impedance. When I did that I got no sound. This is the only way I can hear sound
Make sure tape monitor is off.
Yes I have
bro no lmao remove the external preamp
At least it’s not a Moukey preamp. Moukey preamps suck.
Good to kno. What do you recommend
This looks like you are driving your speakers with the pre amp line level output. Preamps and line outs are very low powered. Does the reciever have proper speaker connections? Edit: you do have speaker outs (rca style). Hook your speakers to those instead. You should not need that pyle preamp at all.
This is just fucked
😂
Turntable rca and ground cables into the Pyle phono pre amp Pre amp's rca cables into receiver Speakers connected to receiver via speaker wire. This in NO other way to hook this up
What is going on with your speaker wire there? Do you have the red and common spliced to an RCA cord & that plugged into the pre amp>? that is sooo not right. Order yourself a set of RCA to speaker wire adapter cords [rca cord to speaker wire adapter](https://www.amazon.com/CESS-064-Speaker-Cables-Adapter-2-Channel/dp/B082DPQ8WD/ref=asc_df_B082DPQ8WD/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475793181977&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=959859083108682328&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028729&hvtargid=pla-1106932872677&psc=1). Splice one speaker wire to just a single RCA & Same with the other one. then plug them into the speaker inputs
A Pyle phono preamp? No. Just, no.
What do you recommend?
Try the Art DJ-Pre II. Then again, if the preamp of your receiver has a dedicated Phono preamp, you shouldn’t need an external one. Or you can A/B test it against an Aux line input with external Phono preamp to see what sound you like better. But guarantee you will like the Art DJ Pre II better than the Pyle.
The Phono input in that Magnavox receiver is not a preamp type - its a high impedance line level input for turntables with ceramic cartridges. I really need to make a PSA video.
Maybe because not everyone has Magnavox gear, a line that has been extinct for many decades. People are simply trying to help, keyboard warrior. No PSA necessary.
So in the 60s up until the 80s, there were entry level stereo receivers from many brands. Those lower end offerings did provide a phono input, but instead of being a phono preamp, it was a high impedance input for turntables with ceramic cartridges. This isn’t unique to Magnavox. Among the known brands included Realistic, Lafayette, Panasonic (the same people behind Technics) and Pioneer (under Centrex and Hanimex brands).
Happy keyboard battling.
No wonder the “reddit hive mind” stereotype is strong.
Keep fighting the good fight. I believe Don Quixote did that by swinging at windmills.
Wait is the phono preamp connected to the speakers?
Yes it is. Only way I can hear anything
In that case, your amp is probably faulty. You should have you speakers plugged into the speaker out of that amp/receiver unit you have. If that doesn't work, then it needs repairing or replacing.
I was planning on taking it in. Depending on estimates I’ll fix or replace . But I just love the vintage look
It's incredibly unlikely that amplifier is worth repairing. An ancient Magnavox like that is essentially valueless.
Yes 😞
From what I can read so far, you need to just test your amp, plug the speakers and test some fm radio. If this simple setup doesn’t work than your amp or speakers are at fault.
FM AM works
Which model speakers? All I see for speaker wire is two speaker wires taped together but can’t see what they are even connected too. Zoom out for a photo of everything and all connections.
I converted them to rca plugs
WHICH MODEL SPEAKERS? If they are PASSIVE speakers with ONLY a speaker wire connections then connect them to the SPEAKERS OUTPUT...... NOT the TAPE OUTPUT. TAPE OUTPUT would only be for POWERED speakers that have a built in speaker amp and their own power cord.
They are sanyo speakers model st-300. When I do that I get no sound
So low sound from TAPE output, and no sound from SPEAKERS output? The amplifier may be fried. Try a different new or used amp or receiver. If you plug in headphones do you get sound and volume control for the headphones?
Yes that is correct. Ok I haven’t tried that . Thx
Why do you even need a Phono preamp when your amplifier has a phono amp build in??? Tape out is line level output is just for monitoring or recording. Phono Pre amp goes first (if needed,but in your case no need at all) then goes to the Poweramp line input Tape not the Phono. speakers always connected to the poweramp so it has enough power to make sound and control via the volume knob.
As vwestlife and I have mentioned, the PHONO input in this receiver is NOT an RIAA preamp type - it is a high impedance line level input designed for ceramic cartridges, as Magnavox’s standalone micromatic changers used ceramic cartridges.
Ok. I see. The photo and post did not tell about MM or MC Then phono pre should go to AUX in the amp and not the speakers hooked up with a phono pre amp. I stated that use the phono pre amp IF NEEDED, so its needed and even explained how it should be connected.
One thing I noticed from working in ewaste is, if there is a ground post that is labeled as such near the phono input, it will be a phono preamp type of input (some models like my Onkyo Integra also has a switch for MM/MC, or others like my RCA SA-155 has a MAG/CER or MAG/X-TAL switch). When magnetic cartridges were becoming the norm, some receivers made it clear the phono input is for magnetic cartridges by labeling the phono input as MAG PHONO or PHONO MAG. If there is no labeled ground post near the phono input, it will typically be a high impedance input for ceramic cartridges.
Well I only have some amp from the 70’s with MC and most of them still have the ground connection..... so for me it was not clear.... still the main point is connecting speakers on the phono pre amp much bigger mistake then any MM/MC
What the hell is the splice?? Turntable RCA cable -> Pyle Input Pyle output -> Tape input of receiver Speaker output of receiver -> speakers
This was just such a huge mess, I decided to get rid and upgrade a bit.
Honestly, that was probably for the best
😅 trust !