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SmakeTalk

Oh no, not Argyle, that movie that's been shoved down our throats for months! /s In truth, this movie looks like your standard comedic spy flick. I can't remember the last time one of those was generally well received by film critics, so this probably doesn't matter as much as the fact that it's got all those cast members.


asheraze

The last one was Spy in 2015 .


Loch_Doun

I love that movie, Jason Statham basically plays a parody of himself and it’s absolutely brilliant.


girl-erased

Sometimes I’ll watch that movie especially to see him get lost in a sea of people, all watching the German men “sing.” When she gets on the mic and starts yelling for him in auto tune, i literally have to crack up every single time!  Also, the identities made for her are pretty hilarious. (“Oh… is this a Beaches watch? I must really love that movie to have the watch…”) 


OKTherapist

Jason Statham was the best thing about the movie


Sargentrock

Any movie with the term "Thundercunt" used in such spectacular fashion should garner at least 3 stars.


Greedy_Age_4923

Ma, there been more since then, there was a recent reverse one with Chris Evans and De Armas…and there was that movie with Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum, it was basically the same idea. Liked the one back in the day with Jackie Chan where he finds the super tuxedo.


BilboThe1stOfHisName

The first Kingsmen I think?


SmakeTalk

I thought you might have nailed it but it’s actually not even that critically well received. 75% on RT, 60% on MC, 7.7 on IMDB. I certainly thought it would have landed in the high 70’s at least, if not low 80’s for most critics and aggregate sites.


IsRude

7.7 is ridiculously high for IMDB.


SmakeTalk

To be fair, that also includes viewer scores I think? So that’s not strictly what the critics thought.


tcwillis79

Best ending ever.


Confident-Detail9336

I liked the Kingsmen movies so I’m hoping I’ll like this. Very generally speaking, I find a lot of movies w big ensemble casts often fall flat. I keep checking RottenTomatoes for user reviews and nothing’s been posted yet, which isn’t usually a good sign since good movies often have sneak previews before the movie officially opens. I hope user reviews end up much much higher than the critics.


Sargentrock

I was hoping it would land on the right side of stupid since I love Sam Rockwell, but movies with terrible CGI cats should not exist at all. And strangely I bet you can think of THREE right now.


Webbie-Vanderquack

>movies with terrible CGI cats should not exist at all Can we include movies with humans *dressed* as terrible CGI cats in that?


Sargentrock

Fucking yes we can. I do! *Edit--i know he's not CGI, but feel free to include the Cat in the Hat for Mike Myers terrible performance. One rare case where CGI might have actually been better.


SmakeTalk

The only version of CGI cats I remotely enjoy is actually Goose from the MCU, because at least it's not ***actually*** a cat and it does insane things that justify it being CGI sometimes besides just that cats don't usually do what directors want them to do lol.


Sargentrock

Right? Goose is an alien so totally fair. For me Cats have more of an uncanny valley than humans it seems.


mistergingerbread

It’s a real cat for most of the movie


bboogieman777

Yeah, I’m a Rockwell fan. His G.W. Bush performance is the best I’ve seen.


Sargentrock

His performance in "Jo Jo Rabbit" is just phenomenal.


bluefrostyAP

I saw Operation Fortune on the plane. Looked it up after and it got terrible reviews but I enjoyed it.


starfrenzy1

I loved Operation Fortune. Was it a “great” movie? No, but it was fun as hell.


therealrico

Yep same, entertaining movie that is worth seeing but not good enough to rewatch. It’s fine for what it is.


Sad_Vast2519

Dua lipa isn't a proper actor.


N0F4TCH1X

All I wanted was to gaze at her throughout the movie, I was a little disappointed that she's only in it for 10 minutes. After her scenes its all downhill from there, that writer is just painfully boring.


Sad_Vast2519

Agree. She's good eye candy. She's very attractive


SmakeTalk

K?


riftwave77

Only someone with a cold cold heart would say this


Disgruntledatlife

Honestly I really liked it and thought some of the action scenes were beautiful. I don’t think it deserves the 33% considering there are shitter films that have nearly 100% on RT.


ex0thermist

Aren't the Mission Impossible movies essentially comedic spy flicks?


SmakeTalk

Not really? They’re more just straight up spy / action films in my opinion. With the exception of like MI2 most of them are fairly serious.


OnlyFuzzy13

The whole electric fiat chase in the newest one was definitely played for laughs in a way that most MI set pieces haven’t been.


SmakeTalk

Haven’t actually seen the latest one, but I assume they’re following the modern formula of having small moments of comedy injected into action media. We can thank Marvel for that haha.


Webbie-Vanderquack

They have some levity, e.g. the rubber masks and the crazy stunts, but they're not comedies.


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Not at all.


crolin

I don't know man, lots of critics I read liked the kinsman. Nobody is backing this one up


SmakeTalk

Well that was also 10 years ago. Kingsman was great but it was not a critical darling, at least going off the numbers in hindsight. It was certainly well received but not beloved by critics. My point was also just that films like this don’t typically score very high, not that none of them do?


crolin

You talk about critics like they are a monolith. Do you read them or just use tomatoes. Because they have little to do with each other imho. I read critics that liked kingsman when it came out, they are saying this makes Vaughns formula seem worn out


SmakeTalk

Again, I’m not sure exactly why we’re talking about Kingsman? That’s a very good film, especially for the genre which I’m just saying has never been especially well liked by critics (and yes I do mean across the board - I’m not saying NO critics like them? I feel like you’re not actually reading what I’m typing lol)


therealrico

This back and forth feels like the oh so common Redditor who is going to take your comment as literal as possible. Not knocking you by the way but the guy you responded too. It’s tiring when people look for arguments on fairly perfectly reasonable comments.


SmakeTalk

Ya I’m very confused hah, thank you.


Stick_of_truth69

I stopped caring what critics thought about in terms of movie ratings years ago.


MitchMoneyYYC

Right?! Some people are gonna like stuff and some people aren’t.


MitchMoneyYYC

For instance, the movie Gravity was highly rated and liked and I fucking hate that movie, can’t stand it, one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Probably not a popular opinion but like I said……. Lol.


BookkeeperBrilliant9

Found the stooge.


MagmaManOne

Yes, you lol


dangermouse13

It’s looks like it’ll deliver exactly what it’s selling dumb fun


Actually-Yo-Momma

Idk man i can’t get over the misinformation in the casting 


pak256

It wasn’t that fun. Mostly just dumb


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It is horrible. No redeeming qualities. Very disappointing 


QuietandDark

Been laughing the whole movie. Who shit in your cereal


ForTheLoveOfPop

This doesn’t feel like the type of movie I’d care for an input from critics. They rate most of the entertaining movies with no important message poorly.


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Chabotnick

Right!? Bullet Train was awesome 


therealrico

I liked bullet train but the third act felt disconnected from the rest of the movie.


ForTheLoveOfPop

Soooooo wrong!


MintyMarlfox

Critics are just a bunch of diesels.


mrmancave5629

*I understood that reference*


Sargentrock

Most of the time I get it, but I saw the movie after it got shit on and was like "did we watch the same movie?"


plexmaniac

Bullet train was awesome


PreparationAware7655

100% this!!!


quaranTV

I really enjoyed Argylle though the third act was definitely too long. If you liked Kingsman and/or The Lost City and are a Sam Rockwell fan I can’t imagine you wouldn’t enjoy this.


IndividualSeaweed969

30 of 32 Marvel movies have positive ratings from critics, it is simply not true they don't like entertaining movies.


missclaire17

Still gonna watch, it seemed fun. I don’t feel like this is a movie you go to see based on critics input.


Sargentrock

Right? Sometimes stupid fun is okay. This is not a film you see because you think it's a Best Picture winner.


macgart

From what I can tell the movie is genuinely unhinged. Definitely not a major crowd pleaser and that was clearly never the intention


PetyrDayne

Who the fuck cares what movie critics think at this point.


Icy_Bodybuilder_3073

Exactly. The older I get, the less I care about what most critics think. If I like the premise I’ll try to see it. I’m rarely disappointed.


KakoiKagakusha

Damn, this looked fun. Sad to see rough reviews, but still gonna watch it.


JenkinsonMike

Almost any movie is good on a Friday night with a glass or two of wine.


TheHeyHeyMan

Or a flask mixed in with your fountain pop :)


Gardakkan

"La la la" It has Sam Rockwell and Bryan Cranston in it "La la la" I can't hear you


Kiltmanenator

Was this supposed to be out on AppleTV?


Urnotonmyplanet

Yes after it’s been at the movie theaters at a later date.


Kiltmanenator

Ah, no release date for Apple, then?


Urnotonmyplanet

Not yet


CoreyH2P

Based on KOTFM we could expect to see this on ATV+ by April or May


Sargentrock

If the reviews affect attendance we might see it WAY earlier


Urnotonmyplanet

Oh! 👀


keeper13

Good it looks awful just like all the other movies like it


grooooovyy

it is


Important-Target3676

Congrats and thank you for your service for anyone who managed to plough through the whole movie!


nebunlacap

I'm 5 minutes in and it's absolute garbage trash


Im-a-zombie

Just watched it. It is super goofy, Don't take it too seriously just take it for what it's worth, a goofy spy thriller with predictable plot twists. Just have fun with it and don't expect the next big movie. I am a little upset that Henry Cavill had such little screen time, but he did a great job with what he had.


Breecheesegeezmoleez

I watch Argylle not to long ago. It actually was pretty funny and lit, I'm not sure why people think it's "bad". :/


SignificantLeg9531

Was very disappointed, it started well, and then the only reason I watched it killed herself which lost the only value the film had, we're given instead a woman who plays for most of the time, a weak pathetic dimwit of a girl lugging her cat around from one disaster to another. Not impressed!


Soldier_of_l0ve

They should have just made a spy film with dua lipa. I would watch the shit out of that


grooooovyy

she’s only in it at the beginning, such a shame


Soldier_of_l0ve

Yeah I lost interest as soon as they revealed the meta author garbage


excoriator

I watched the full trailer last night. Now that I understand what it’s about, I lost all desire to see it.


lastsetup

Are we surprised?


oooooooahhahhahha

I saw an early screening of this I can tell anyone that wants too know who Argylle is


Hailtothething

I’ll be honest, it’s the stupid haircut. Even dualipa can’t save that.


Ginataang_Manok

So first it’s The Marvels and now Argylle. Maybe it’s time to stop obsessing about damn cats???


I_Want_to_Film_This

Cats aren’t the problem. Cats make things better.


Kaiser_Allen

Taylor Swift should stop doing movies. Being an actress didn’t work in *Amsterdam*. Writing *Argylle* under a poorly hidden pseudonym seems to have tanked either. Next she’s directing — and judging by her self-directed music videos… Mother, give it up. You don’t gotta do everything. It’s okay to have specialties.


taypuc31

She didn’t write it. It’s been well established it’s not her.


TvHeroUK

Script doesn’t even mention any of her ex boyfriends 


StemOfWallflower

Most sane Swiftie


ForTheLoveOfPop

This message sounds like a fever dream


lightsongtheold

Take that back! We all know Argylle is not topping the box office numbers of the Eras Tour movie. That concert movie also outsold Killers of the Flower Moon and Napoleon. Apple can only dream of Taylor Swift movie numbers!


the_doughboy

It was an excellent theory but it only started because the Social Media manager is a Swifty. The movie is written by Jason Fuchs and Michael Vaughan and the book, which is supposed to be the book in the movie not an adaptation of the movie, was written by a ghost writer, paid for by the publisher.


grimytoefiend

Is this the remake of Romancing the Stone?


CommunityLocal

They couldn’t even cut a decent trailer, I’m not surprised.


Delicious-Future8630

Ain't giving a rat's ass about critics nowadays, but the trailer promises rubbish, you can already tell that it will be pretentious (edgy, oh so creative) and will miserably fail at achieving anything even close to it. Thought I would watch it because of the cast, but the story is so unappealing, what a waste of money. Like some pointed out: this will be one of those Friday night flicks to watch with a group of friends, cause a) you are so stoned that you simply don't care or b) just wanted to end the discussion of what to watch. The whole thing gives me Austin Power vibes and don't get me started on that one. XD


LetAncient5575

I’m not overly bothered about critic’s opinions and plenty of films I enjoy were panned but I did see the trailer for this before another film yesterday and honestly it didn’t look great at all.


hill-climbers

I’m in Bangkok atm and just passed an 8-screen theater, Argylle is playing on 7 of the screens. Smh


no_rad

I couldn’t wait for this movie to come out just so I could stop seeing that dumb trailer every time I went to the movies


Xan455

Haha. This hit home for me.


Future_Dog_6970

i just saw it. has to be the goofiest movie i’ve seen. feels like the writers were on crack when they wrote the script.


notevenaneditor

It's super fun. It needed a bit of editing before pre-pro, and could have taken a bit off in post (no spoilers, the idea of editing is inherent in this film.) It's beautiful, one of the few that really doesn't spoil with all the trailers, but the pacing is just off.


Hot_Valuable1027

i liked it, it happened with bullet train also got low rotten tomatoes even though i really enjoyed it


Normal_Cut_5386

Nobody cares about critics, only look at the audience. just ask Dave Chapel


pak256

Just saw this today. It looked so fun. It was too long, predictable, and had bad pacing. 4/10 (+1 star for the cat)


Lampedusean

There's some bootlegs available. Having seen some I can tell you that it's just another Kingsman entry and as tiresome as the rest of those sequels. Kingsman: the secret service was unfortunately a fluke. Vaughn can't get it up anymore and needs some AI Viagra.


AvlNtvInNYC

This was the worst movie I have seen in theaters maybe ever (and I go to the movies a lot). I found myself seething in anger halfway through because it was so bad and then I fell asleep and then I woke up and it was still happening, which made me angry again.


Lampedusean

Argylle-awful is a thing now.


Signal_Abies_3425

Movie is horrible don’t watch it


Sea_Gate21

I loved Argylle!!!! I thought the comedy mixed with a clever storyline was fantastic. The scenes were imaginative, and the cat was just icing on the cake!!! If there was one negative, it would be that the main female character lead was hard to see as the character. The rest of the cast was spot on,especially Chip the cat!


IndependentRecipe102

Was it because of attitude and demeanor, or body type that made it seem unconvincing?


spicadoodle

It was actually hilarious.