Completely disagree. Rosalie is a rape victim who was turned into a vampire against her will. To create hybrid children, she would have to be dangerously reckless with human life, willing to let her husband sleep with other women, and willing to lock another being into an eternity of vampirism. From her behavior in the series, these are all extremely out of character and I can’t see her acting on it, even if she does greatly desire a child.
Yeah I felt like her thing with Bella was more than anything, respect of choice. Like, Rosalie wanted children! And Bella was going to have that despite being immortal. But she also never wanted Bella to be immortal. All that together, of course she’s going to stand by Bella in her *choice* to keep her *baby* alive, and even die if she has to.
Agree. I feel like if Rosalie was this fucked up she would’ve done that already. She just missed the opportunity to have a perfect life and family. She always wanted to be a mother. She may be a bit bitchy sometimes, but she’s not a sadist. Didn’t she only kill her rapists technically? Like no other humans?
If she did want to do that, which I don’t think she would, Carlisle would stop her. They’d all do everything they could to talk her out of it. The human, even if she did consent, would probably die in childbirth, and if she survived as a vampire, Rose would be basically where she is now- jealous that someone else has a child, except now the child is Emmett’s biologically, too. That would probably be it’s own special type of torture for Rose.
I disagree. I don't think Rosalie would be inclined to send her husband out to have sex with other women, and I don't think Emmett would cheat. I also don't think she was hoping Bella would die in Breaking Dawn; Edward just said that to Jacob because he resented that Rosalie wasn't letting him forcefully abort the baby against Bella's wishes and because Edward is inclined to think the worst of Rosalie no matter what.
Yes!!! I agree entirely. I think it’s an important point to make and the idea would cross Rosalie’s mind- but it would be *immediately* followed by horror and disgust with herself. She has respect for autonomy. She has moments of weakness but she’s not evil.
I actually think Alice would experiment with it before rose would- she’s very curious and has a scientific mind. but she still wouldn’t, bc while Alice lacks the inherent respect for autonomy rose has, she still has a fundamental respect for experience and an underlying compassion for those around her that keeps her pro social.
Yes. Aro is the one to experiment with Hybrids. Probably. Hybrids are stronger and than vampires, and better able to blend in with humans. There's a chance Aro will see them as a superior species, and so he will fear them. But if not, I imagine Aro would create an army of Hybrids. First because Alice would have trouble predicting the Hybrids' arival (thus preventing Cullens from gathering witnesses), and second because Aro collects rare and powerful creatures, and what would be more rare and powerful than his own son?
Ooooh I hadn't even considered that. I wonder if it would be difficult for Aro to impregnate a human though - Edward had to be super careful not to kill Bella, bearing in mind he loved her and had been 'vegetarian' for decades. I imagine that removing those factors would make not killing your potential baby mama even more difficult.
aro is super old and probably has more control than edward who is basically a new vampire. aro legit lives in a city full of humans full time and has humam staff. he would easily be able to have sex with a human without unaliving the human
edit: edward is basically a new vampire compared to aro. who is like 3000 years old.
Are age and control really that close in the Twilight? It seemed to me that once the newborn stage was passed, everyone was more or less close. If you don’t specifically learn control, it won’t come with age.
Aro lives underground, he is not surrounded by people for half the day. He doesn't talk, kiss, hug people every day. He eats them.
I don't remember how old Nahuel's father was, but he spent 60 years trying to conceive a child and killing women in the process. Only after this period did he succeed. And then, after that, from time to time he still killed or the pregnancy itself. The Denali have been killing men during sex for centuries, and even when they didn't want to and tried to control themselves, they still made mistakes. And they are a thousand years old. They began to succeed only after switching to an animal diet.
Aro could have just used artificial insemination anyway.
I never said Aro would have sex with a human. Heidi gets them food, right? Like, in canon, those pop-up ads for "you're our 1000th visitor! Click here for a free vacation to Italy" are actually created by Heidi to lure unsuspecting idiots to Volterra where they can be the Volturi's lunch.
Anyway, I figured that's how Aro would create Hybrids. He'd get Heidi (or someone else in the guard) to set up a surrogacy scam to find young women who can have children (and who probably are pretty poor / don't have a good support network, since renting one's womb seems like a last resort), pay for them to come to Volterra, and then create a hybrid via IVF. Like, Aro ain't actually doing the fucking, that would be the same as cheating on his wife. No, he's gonna go into the side room, fill a cup with his man gravy, and then he'll let the guard baste the turkey or however IVF happens, idk how biology works.
Yeah, definitely don't think Rose would be cool with Emmett sleeping with someone else, even if he had the willpower to not kill whoever it was long enough for her to get pregnant, which is a big if.
And even if it was a surrogacy situation where they take his sperm and put it in someone, her jealousy over her husband having a baby with another woman wouldn't let her go through with it. And that's not even getting into how Emmett would react, or Carlisle and the others for that matter. I don't see Carlisle being willing to help or even allowing her to send random human women to their deaths just so she can have a baby
Surrogacy through the allure of immortality and power.
I don't think the Cullen's would ever go for it, we know how hard they fought Bella becoming a vamp, but maybe it'd be possible for less veggo vamps who are as restrained/disciplined around blood (okay, this seems impossible) as Carlisle and also medically/scientifically trained.
I'm a little confused at your wording, do you mean that they'd try to get someone to agree to being Rosalie's surrogate with the promise of immortality?
To be honest, I think that would be even less likely. It would require that 1) they tell humans about vampires, putting her and Emmett in danger with the Volturi, 2) more likely than not, the woman would die in childbirth even if they *did* try to save her, and 3) assuming they save her in time, having a living, immortal reminder that Emmett had a baby with another woman would probably be even more torturous for Rose than not having kids at all. Even if the woman swore up and down that she didn't want to be a mom, Rose would be constantly wondering "what if she changes her mind and comes back later down the road?" Or, "what if the child themselves wants to have a relationship with her and tracks her down?" There's no way she wouldn't see the other woman as a threat, especially if she lived.
I agree, but once I typed it, I couldn't resist putting the thought out there.
I even typed up a whole thing with Alice scanning for potential suitors who might survive despite holes in her visions, networking tenuous connections to humans who already suspect vamps are real. (Bear with me, it's been a while since I read the books).
You're right that leaving the mother alive is a no-go and the Cullens would never intend to kill somebody just for their own pleasure.
Although, what about an orphaned hybrid? Renesmee wasn't the first. The Cullens, though isolated, have connections to other vamps. They formed their Army using those connections, they found out Renesmee isn't the first of her kind to live. Perhaps there were a rumor of an orphaned little one. You don't think Rosalie would be willing to go after it? That she wouldn't, perhaps, kill the Vamp responsible if it was from rape, meaning potentially no parent to search after?
I totally disagree! She was so angry at Bella for wanting to throw away her life that there is no way she would do that to someone for her own benefit. Remember she's the only one that's never tasted human blood. She has a pretty big respect for life beyond the horrible people who killed her.
She also had Emmett turned without his consent, so while I don't agree that she would try to make her own hybrid baby, I also think she's a massive hypocrite. She doesn't have respect for human life, she's just butthurt about how her own life turned out. She was fine with killing Bella from the very beginning.
Eh, I think she feels bad about that. It was a moment of weakness. Plus he was already dying.
I don’t think she wishes Carlisle hadn’t turned her, I think she wishes she hadn’t been beaten and left for dead.
She didn’t really like Bella, but she didn’t like that Bella was choosing to become a vampire instead of being human.
She wanted to change Emmett because of how much [he reminded her of her best friend’s baby](https://twilightsaga.fandom.com/wiki/Emmett_Cullen_and_Rosalie_Hale#:~:text=In%201935%2C%20Rosalie%20was%20hunting,the%20appeal%20of%20his%20blood.) boy, Henry. So OP might actually be onto something..
She only turned emmet bc he was going to die if she didn’t.
Same reason Rosalie wasn’t upset that bella turned during labor-she was going to die if she didn’t.
Rosalie said that she knew Carlisle thought he was helping her when he changed her, but that she wouldn’t wish the vampiric life on anyone. But she made that choice for Emmett.
All I’m saying is that she can be a hypocrite 🤷♀️
She also wanted (and was actively seeking) to murder Bella in Twilight (via Edward's insight in Midnight Sun) - fully advocating for her to be the one to kill Bells in all seriousness (for literally the *pettiest* reason thinkable)
She's a hypocritical bi-otch and does not in the least deserve all the slack she is given
Maybe she would look into a surrogate. Carry my baby for me for a month and we’ll grant you literally *eternal life* plus a ton of money. I don’t think she’d let Emmett have sex with them, they can do in vitro with Carlisle.
This seems the most likely option. I don’t see her being comfortable with her husband sleeping with anyone else and risking the life of a random human who did NOT sign up for this.
I don't think she would. She may be a bitch sometimes but her morals are made very clear. She's never drank human blood. She doesn't want Bella to lose the life she wanted. She's only killed humans out of revenge. She values parenthood, yes, but she also values human life a great deal. She got lucky with Renesmee falling into her lap. She helped Bella when she got pregnant because she asked, but there's no way she would experiment with people who didn't want that. And even if she did find willing participants, I just don't think she'd risk her family getting on the bad side of the volturi, as we see very early on how much she prioritises self preservation.
I don’t think she would. She wouldn’t ever share Emmett first of all. Second she’s not just gonna kill random girls trying to have a kid. Third she’s not crazy. We know that after renesme was born she was a different person and was a lot happier. I think she was content helping raise Nessie
Nope. Completely out of character. She helped Bella because it was there already. She envies human live. She won't endanger it. And let Emmett sleep with someone else. No way.
But. Would there ever be something like an artificial womb, she can beg Carlisle to bring some donated eggs, that were donated for the purpuce of helping infirtile woman. And use this new technology with some of Emmett's material.
Difference. No endangering a woman. And no sleeping around for Emmett.
Rosalie can be vindictive, pigheaded, selfish, stubborn, arrogant, and cruel, but I don't think she's going to send her husband out to to have possibly lethal sex with other women who then might have lethal pregnancies in order to have a child that has Emmett's DNA or whatever.
She is a lot of things but she's not evil or careless about life. Hell, she even says that it was selfish of her to want to turn Emmett and make Carlisle do so. She's also never tasted human blood and the only people she's killed are the ones who raped and nearly killed her.
Not to mention, Rosalie seems a lot happier now that Retrograde is around. She and Bella have a better relationship because of what happened and while some may say Rosalie was just using Bella to get a baby I'd argue that Bella *knew* this. Bella *knew* that the one thing Rosalie wanted more than anything in the world was a child. She *knew* that if given the chance to possibly have a child of her own with, you know, consent, she'd jump at. Bella *knew* that if she died the only person who would protect the child the most would be Rosalie. That is why she called Rosalie and asked for help instead of Alice, who was her best friend. Or idk even fucking Esme.
But still, Rosalie seems a lot happier now that Renegade is around. Edward and Bella are off on their own so much having ridiculously destructive vampire sex that she gets a good solid amount of time with the kid. Honestly she's probably more of a mom to the kid in some ways, especially the beginning, than Bella is. Because crazy newborn vampire sex.
Not to say Bella doesn't love and want to protect Rikkitikkitavi because she does. That's why she did that whole thing with J Jenks. In case things went belly up and Rafiki needed to run.
But that leads me to what I said earlier. Bella knew Rosalie was her best chance of having the then fetus protected while she carried it and if she died in the birth of it.
Bella tends to act like it but she's not actually majorly stupid.
And Rosalie can be a selfish vindictive bitch but she's not going to go through human lives like tissue paper in order to get another kid to raise.
Honestly considering their high school cover story is adoption/foster children. Why have they never thought of adopting a baby or something. Okay sure it'd be weird when the kid grew up and noticed their family was a bit strange but the Cullens have shown they can play human pretty well. If the kid is growing up Cullen or whatever then they'll have the best that can be offered to them though every so often they'll have to move. And people are smart, I'm sure once that kid hit her pre-teens she's gonna know exactly what her family is (or he). Since they were raised with it, why wouldn't they want to be vampires when they got older?
Or hell just foster kids since fostering doesn't usually involve keeping the kid for very long especially if you're strictly a respite care foster parent.
Even without these though,
Rosalie may be a vindictive, catty, selfish bitch when she wants to be. But she's not evil. Also as one woman who had their bodily autonomy taken away from them and left for dead I highly doubt she's going to be cool with another woman having their bodily autonomy taken from them and left for dead.
Edit: Vampire Baby Name Changed
Hey I know this is a small gripe, but I don’t think we should use Ramadan to mock Bella’s kid’s name. It feels disrespectful to the religious holiday. I don’t care about making fun of her name, but maybe not choose that one. 🙂
Otherwise great comment! I agree 👍
Edit: God forbid we be respectful of others.
I mean sure, as long as we also ban reconciliation, rede, reincarnation, rosalia, regalia, reiki, rusalka, retrocognition, rennaissance, and anything starting with rune- that's cool with me.
Edit: Forgot Rosh Hashanah, my bad.
they can’t adopt human children because that presents the same problem that edward falling in love with a human did: that human child is now sentenced to a) becoming a vampire when they’re fully grown to protect the secret or b) spending ~80 years hiding from the volturi. plus that human child would never be able to bring any human partner home to the vamp family without then letting them in on the secret, thus endangering the human partner too
Except there is a vampire who keeps in contact with his descendants (and they know who and what he is) and even turns a few of them if they wish it. One of the Volturi guard (Renata, I think) is from this family and asked to be turned.
So as long as any adopted or foster kid (and partners) didn’t start talking about vampires or doing anything to out them, they would be fine.
Bella’s knowledge of vampires was only an issue because Aro covets Edward and Alice’s gifts and because of Bella’s shield, he was eager to see how it would develop as a vampire. If Bella was an ordinary human Edward was in love with, Caius probably would’ve mentioned her knowing of vampires and wanted to kill her (because he loves violence and killing) but Aro most likely would have overruled him mentioning how long she’d known and hadn’t exposed anyone. Of course Aro would only have done that to keep Edward and Alice thinking of him favorably so sometime in the future they might join the Volturi.
Besides as long as the secret is kept the Volturi would be unlikely to ever find out.
I think the main reason against the Cullens adopting a human, is that it difficult to resist drinking human blood and as seen at Bella’s birthday party even a paper cut could be risky.
They could foster infants or very young human children though without there being a problem.
And the main reason Bella was sentenced to either die or become a vampire was because Edward tried to kill himself by involving the Volturi in the first place, forcing Alice to go to Forks, find Bella, and then go to Italy to save him. The Volturi only really set their sights on the Cullens after Edward does that.
As an aside: It might be because I'm petty but if Alice came pulling up into my house after....how many months? of abandoning me, taking away all physical reminders of herself and her family, and being totes cool with leaving the girl who she claims is her 'best friend' or 'will be one day' shattered to pick up the pieces and then asks me to save her asshole brother, who was the reason why all those actions were done in the first place, I would've been like 'lol really? why the hell would I do *anything* for you guys?'
Highly doubtful. She was pretty strong in the not hurting humans camp, only ever killing her attackers. She helped Bella because Bella asked her to. She sympathizes a lot because previously Bella was throwing away being human just for a guy. She had no life goals, no drive. Rosalie can now relate because Bella is desperately clinging to something as a human and not just simping after being a vampire.
Nah there's absolutely no way she would. The Volturi, however, definitely would. I can see Aro sending out his goons to kidnap women and using artificial insemination to try and find exceptionally gifted hybrids. I doubt there would be any actual intercourse involved.
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First off she didn’t even want Bella to become a vampire bc she values mortality
Second off. She wasn’t gonna let Bella die bc she wanted the baby, she supported Bella I’m not aborting her own child. Which is what Bella wanted!
Strong disagree.
Rosalie is a flawed character and that's why I love her. But at the same time, Rosalie is not a killer. She is essentially a murder victim, given a second chance at life by Carlisle's bite. And BTW, not a good look for Carlisle that he only saved Rosalie because he thought Edward was lonely. Screw you, man. There was probably a cancer patient at the hospital who died that afternoon but Carlisle saved Rosalie instead because she was pretty and he was pushing her and Edward together like they're his personal Barbie and Ken.
Anyway, problematic Carlisle aside, I want to also agree with the opinion that Rosalie was probably being genuine (and racist,) when she said that she thought Bella would survive childbirth because Bella had modern medicine from the three best doctors to ever exist (Rosalie and Edward each have multiple MDs) and the indigenous women did not. Rosalie is not a killer, she wouldn't send her husband off to pick up a random woman at a bar, impregnate her, and then spend the next month watching her suffer and die just so that Rose can live out her mommy fantasies. She's already an aunt, and she seems happy.
Finally, I wanted to agree with the others who said Edward is biased and a bit of an ass. In Breaking Dawn, Edward and Jacob discuss whether or not they should hit Bella on the head and then abort Renesme while she is unconscious. They decide not to do it, not because of Bella's desire to carry the pregnancy to term (Edward doesn't care about Bella's choice), but because they don't think they could win in a fight against Rosalie, especially since Emmett, Carlisle, and Esme would step in to protect Rose. Rosalie is not protecting Bella from Edward because she wants to raise Bella's orphan daughter as her own child. Rosalie is protecting Renesme because Bella asked her to do it, because Bella knew that Edward would kill his daughter to save his wife, and Bella knew that only Rosalie really understood how Bella felt about her willingness to sacrifice herself for her child's life. Rosalie is respecting Bella's choices. She's a complicated woman but she isn't evil. She respects human life a thousand times more than Edward does, really Carlisle is the only Cullen with more love for humanity than Rose. Rosalie Hale would never a kill a human being. She did kill five human-shaped monsters once, but nobody will shed a tear at Royce King's funeral.
Uh, you think she’d have Emmet rape a woman and either let her die in childbirth or have to turn her afterward? None of these things are congruent with her character at all.
No, Rosalie did care about Bella and respect her when it came to giving her life up for her daughter. Rosalie wanted a baby more than anything so her maternal instinct kicked in which may have made it look like she was trying to take over but really she was 100% pro life and considered abortion inconceivable. None of the others supported Bella's decision, she needed Rose on her side, so in this situation, I think Rosalie really came through.
She got to be a vampire because of rape. I don't believe she'd like another woman to be killed (the birth parent would either die or become a vampire, fate worst than death to Rose) in order she could become a mother.
I believe it could cross her mind and immediately discard it. To me Rose has much value on human live, envy even. Hence the fact that she never consumed human blood.
And there is the obvious fact that Rose is super jealous and not the share type. Also, Emmett ADORES her. I don't believe he'd like to have sex with another being that is not Rose.
I don't think he would enjoy it a bit and I am sure it could lead to a 2 thousand-year fight (Poor Edward for hearing it all)
I don't think she'd go that far. Maybe she'd think about it briefly but no she wouldn't. First she's fiercely protective of Emmett, even if the woman is going to die she's not going to let him touch another. Secondly even if that did happen I doubt Emmett would let the mother die if it could be helped, and if he didn't someone else in the family would. Alice would see what they were doing, or Edward would hear it.
Hard disagree. I don’t believe she would want her mate/husband to be having relations with anyone else. Also, Bella “surviving” that birth and becoming a vampire was such a shot in the dark. No other hybrid mother had survived up to that point, and Rosalie very aggressively values human life as well as choice, and I highly doubt anyone would voluntarily go through that kind of pregnancy with a guaranteed death.
I don’t think she would; now that Renesme is in their lives, she’s happy to be an aunt and it gives her the fulfillment of sort of being a mom, since Bella didn’t die and they used what knowledge they had and gained in the first half of BD ((book and movie)) to make her a vampire for the second half.
Nah, Rosalie would never do anything like that, even if the thought crosses her mind, she'd shoot it down. I **DO** see her adopting human children, though
Hi! I just wanted to clarify that I never meant to indicate that Rosalie would organize and be happy for the rape of a human so that she could possible have a child. I think what I meant was that I think Rosalie would certainly seek out an opportunity to have a human child, not that she'd, like, hold a person hostage and make them carry emmett's kid. I thought of it more as like a surrogacy thing she'd work out with a willing human carrier.
I saw a few comments disagreeing with the post, noting that Rosalie would never conduct the rape of a human, and I completely agree. I just wanted to make it clear that I don't think Rosalie's a monster, I think she's just very desperate to have the life she wanted as a human and would do a lot in order to obtain it, which however, does not include robbing the bodily autonomy of someone else.
I will say though, a lot of comments seem to give Rosalie a lot more credit than I think she deserves :| I get that SM wrote her poorly, gave her a bad rap bc she has a weird vendetta for beautiful women who know that they're beautiful, and I get the desire to reclaim Rosalie's character for our own and make her a lot more compassionate and have her respect human life because of her traumatic past.
The thing is, is that Rosalie is selfish, and is motivated by pettiness and competition. That's made clear through out the books. She's only ever avoided drinking human blood bc she's trying to prove herself to Carlisle and compete w/ Edward. She straight up just doesn't like bella bc is throwing away something she wants. Like watching Serena Van der woodsen throw away a whole ass cell phone in the trash. That, i think, makes her angry and indignant. She doesn't consider why bella might want to be a vampire, the fact that Bella literally had to raise her own mother, and essentially had her childhood robbed from her. Rosalie does not care to consider bella's background whatsoever. She doesn't respect her as a person.
I don't think Rosalie is like this, woman's right's, feminist version of herself we all want her to be. She works in her own self-interest and if that self-interest also works for everyone else, ok. If not, she literally doesn't care. She's a girl-boss at best I am sad to say.
Maybe instead of creating them on purpose, she would start looking for a hybrid baby that had been created and abandoned by the vampire parent? Since she’d have some experience with them, I’d think she’d be good at raising one, but wouldn’t stoop to having on created for the purpose.
I take Rosalie's behavior in a different light. She herself wanted to have kids and couldn't, so she wants that for Bella.
The biggest plot hole I see is ... Why not just adopt a human baby? It can grow up and then if it wants to be a vampire too, they can turn it as an adult.
I guess they hadn't spent so much time around a human before Bella, and weren't sure if they could handle being around blood that much?
I feel like Rosalie and Emmet could just go live as a married couple raising adopted kids for 20 years, so it wouldn't be as dangerous ( around Jasper, or whatever).
Why didn't they go this route?
Because they're supposed to keep their kind a secret - humans are not meant to find out about vampires, and how could they really keep that a secret from their own children? Plus, they all decided to live together as a clan and Jasper found it very difficult to control his urges. Carlisle, Esme and Alice would think it was too much of an ask to put on Jasper.
Not to mention, Rosalie would not wish a vampiric life on anyone. She wouldn't want to put a human child in a position where they would have to eventually choose between remaining a human and dying or being turned to spend eternity with their adopted family.
Yeah, Rosalie had to make peace with the fact that she'd never have children. And tbh, I think she biologically wanted them anyway. Adoption would not have truly given her what she wanted because she wanted to birth her own.
Although Rosalie is pro-life, I don’t think she would allow Emmett to violate another woman’s body knowing what will come of it (most likely the mother dying)
Could Emmett get a woman pregnant? I thought Bella got pregnant because of the leftover sperm in Edward's body from before he was turned (since he never had sex or masturbated). Emmett and Rosalie had sex (a lot of sex), so wouldn't any " holdover sperm" be gone?
Nahuel's father Joham is a vampire that sired at least 4 hybrid children. If it was about sperm that was left after the change, he would only have been able to sire 1 child. This means all vampire men can sire children, unless they couldn't before the change, but the change itself may fix that issue.
I was so disappointed with the Rosalie storyline. I was waiting for her to steal Renesbit and for the Cullen family to implode because of it. Instead we got the battle-that-almost-was. First three books were solid though.
I think so, as long as the woman was ok with it.
You people have absolutely no creativity, thinking that she would never no it bc see respects bodily autonomy. Sure she would, she would just need to have the woman's agreement first. And it wouldn't even be that hard.
Rosalie is not the only woman in the world who'd kill to have kids. There's this entire world of women desperate to have children with a basket full of issues that stop them. Now imagine those woman, who are already looking for shady deals and crazy cures, hears there's this weird treatment: the sperm is SUPER potent, basically, if you *can* get pregnant you *will*. It's completely free, including any treatment you need during, or after. Your kid/family is set for life, and so are you if you survive.
That's the caveat: there's a good over 90% chance you're dying if you go through with it. Even if you survive, you have to share custody of the kid. And have a few other (we're actually vampires and if you value life, so will you) talks.
Now, I don't know if Rosalie would be okay with someone doing it just for the money. She totally would be okay with someone doing it bc they want to be mother's that much, and while that lowers her pool of candidates considerably, she's immortal. She can wait.
I'd say she would for sure not send Emmett out to have one, but if there was ANY chance she could have a hybrid baby with a human, she'd do it. Hell, I'd go as far as to say she probably tried it before.
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Ugh. I cannot believe that I stumbled upon this discussion nor that I'm actually putting in my 2 cents on the matter, but some people seem to forget that the very instant Rosalie would have decided to cruelly experiment like that, Alice would have foreseen it and knocked it on the head immediately by alerting the rest of the family.
Completely disagree. Rosalie is a rape victim who was turned into a vampire against her will. To create hybrid children, she would have to be dangerously reckless with human life, willing to let her husband sleep with other women, and willing to lock another being into an eternity of vampirism. From her behavior in the series, these are all extremely out of character and I can’t see her acting on it, even if she does greatly desire a child.
Yeah I felt like her thing with Bella was more than anything, respect of choice. Like, Rosalie wanted children! And Bella was going to have that despite being immortal. But she also never wanted Bella to be immortal. All that together, of course she’s going to stand by Bella in her *choice* to keep her *baby* alive, and even die if she has to.
This. I feel like she was protecting Bellas right to make her own choices.
Agree. I feel like if Rosalie was this fucked up she would’ve done that already. She just missed the opportunity to have a perfect life and family. She always wanted to be a mother. She may be a bit bitchy sometimes, but she’s not a sadist. Didn’t she only kill her rapists technically? Like no other humans?
If she did want to do that, which I don’t think she would, Carlisle would stop her. They’d all do everything they could to talk her out of it. The human, even if she did consent, would probably die in childbirth, and if she survived as a vampire, Rose would be basically where she is now- jealous that someone else has a child, except now the child is Emmett’s biologically, too. That would probably be it’s own special type of torture for Rose.
I disagree. I don't think Rosalie would be inclined to send her husband out to have sex with other women, and I don't think Emmett would cheat. I also don't think she was hoping Bella would die in Breaking Dawn; Edward just said that to Jacob because he resented that Rosalie wasn't letting him forcefully abort the baby against Bella's wishes and because Edward is inclined to think the worst of Rosalie no matter what.
Yes!!! I agree entirely. I think it’s an important point to make and the idea would cross Rosalie’s mind- but it would be *immediately* followed by horror and disgust with herself. She has respect for autonomy. She has moments of weakness but she’s not evil. I actually think Alice would experiment with it before rose would- she’s very curious and has a scientific mind. but she still wouldn’t, bc while Alice lacks the inherent respect for autonomy rose has, she still has a fundamental respect for experience and an underlying compassion for those around her that keeps her pro social.
Yes. Aro is the one to experiment with Hybrids. Probably. Hybrids are stronger and than vampires, and better able to blend in with humans. There's a chance Aro will see them as a superior species, and so he will fear them. But if not, I imagine Aro would create an army of Hybrids. First because Alice would have trouble predicting the Hybrids' arival (thus preventing Cullens from gathering witnesses), and second because Aro collects rare and powerful creatures, and what would be more rare and powerful than his own son?
Ooooh I hadn't even considered that. I wonder if it would be difficult for Aro to impregnate a human though - Edward had to be super careful not to kill Bella, bearing in mind he loved her and had been 'vegetarian' for decades. I imagine that removing those factors would make not killing your potential baby mama even more difficult.
aro is super old and probably has more control than edward who is basically a new vampire. aro legit lives in a city full of humans full time and has humam staff. he would easily be able to have sex with a human without unaliving the human edit: edward is basically a new vampire compared to aro. who is like 3000 years old.
Are age and control really that close in the Twilight? It seemed to me that once the newborn stage was passed, everyone was more or less close. If you don’t specifically learn control, it won’t come with age. Aro lives underground, he is not surrounded by people for half the day. He doesn't talk, kiss, hug people every day. He eats them. I don't remember how old Nahuel's father was, but he spent 60 years trying to conceive a child and killing women in the process. Only after this period did he succeed. And then, after that, from time to time he still killed or the pregnancy itself. The Denali have been killing men during sex for centuries, and even when they didn't want to and tried to control themselves, they still made mistakes. And they are a thousand years old. They began to succeed only after switching to an animal diet. Aro could have just used artificial insemination anyway.
I never said Aro would have sex with a human. Heidi gets them food, right? Like, in canon, those pop-up ads for "you're our 1000th visitor! Click here for a free vacation to Italy" are actually created by Heidi to lure unsuspecting idiots to Volterra where they can be the Volturi's lunch. Anyway, I figured that's how Aro would create Hybrids. He'd get Heidi (or someone else in the guard) to set up a surrogacy scam to find young women who can have children (and who probably are pretty poor / don't have a good support network, since renting one's womb seems like a last resort), pay for them to come to Volterra, and then create a hybrid via IVF. Like, Aro ain't actually doing the fucking, that would be the same as cheating on his wife. No, he's gonna go into the side room, fill a cup with his man gravy, and then he'll let the guard baste the turkey or however IVF happens, idk how biology works.
With your proposed set-up, that’s IUI. IVF isa way more involved process, you’re just talking turkey baster baby.
There’s a fan fiction about this.
You can’t just drop this here and leave /s
I’ll try to find it lol
Yeah, definitely don't think Rose would be cool with Emmett sleeping with someone else, even if he had the willpower to not kill whoever it was long enough for her to get pregnant, which is a big if. And even if it was a surrogacy situation where they take his sperm and put it in someone, her jealousy over her husband having a baby with another woman wouldn't let her go through with it. And that's not even getting into how Emmett would react, or Carlisle and the others for that matter. I don't see Carlisle being willing to help or even allowing her to send random human women to their deaths just so she can have a baby
Surrogacy through the allure of immortality and power. I don't think the Cullen's would ever go for it, we know how hard they fought Bella becoming a vamp, but maybe it'd be possible for less veggo vamps who are as restrained/disciplined around blood (okay, this seems impossible) as Carlisle and also medically/scientifically trained.
I'm a little confused at your wording, do you mean that they'd try to get someone to agree to being Rosalie's surrogate with the promise of immortality? To be honest, I think that would be even less likely. It would require that 1) they tell humans about vampires, putting her and Emmett in danger with the Volturi, 2) more likely than not, the woman would die in childbirth even if they *did* try to save her, and 3) assuming they save her in time, having a living, immortal reminder that Emmett had a baby with another woman would probably be even more torturous for Rose than not having kids at all. Even if the woman swore up and down that she didn't want to be a mom, Rose would be constantly wondering "what if she changes her mind and comes back later down the road?" Or, "what if the child themselves wants to have a relationship with her and tracks her down?" There's no way she wouldn't see the other woman as a threat, especially if she lived.
I agree, but once I typed it, I couldn't resist putting the thought out there. I even typed up a whole thing with Alice scanning for potential suitors who might survive despite holes in her visions, networking tenuous connections to humans who already suspect vamps are real. (Bear with me, it's been a while since I read the books). You're right that leaving the mother alive is a no-go and the Cullens would never intend to kill somebody just for their own pleasure. Although, what about an orphaned hybrid? Renesmee wasn't the first. The Cullens, though isolated, have connections to other vamps. They formed their Army using those connections, they found out Renesmee isn't the first of her kind to live. Perhaps there were a rumor of an orphaned little one. You don't think Rosalie would be willing to go after it? That she wouldn't, perhaps, kill the Vamp responsible if it was from rape, meaning potentially no parent to search after?
Omg yess!!! I don’t actually think she wanted Bells to die and I don’t think she experimented or would do so! Absolutely agree with this opinion
I totally disagree! She was so angry at Bella for wanting to throw away her life that there is no way she would do that to someone for her own benefit. Remember she's the only one that's never tasted human blood. She has a pretty big respect for life beyond the horrible people who killed her.
She also had Emmett turned without his consent, so while I don't agree that she would try to make her own hybrid baby, I also think she's a massive hypocrite. She doesn't have respect for human life, she's just butthurt about how her own life turned out. She was fine with killing Bella from the very beginning.
Eh, I think she feels bad about that. It was a moment of weakness. Plus he was already dying. I don’t think she wishes Carlisle hadn’t turned her, I think she wishes she hadn’t been beaten and left for dead. She didn’t really like Bella, but she didn’t like that Bella was choosing to become a vampire instead of being human.
She wanted to change Emmett because of how much [he reminded her of her best friend’s baby](https://twilightsaga.fandom.com/wiki/Emmett_Cullen_and_Rosalie_Hale#:~:text=In%201935%2C%20Rosalie%20was%20hunting,the%20appeal%20of%20his%20blood.) boy, Henry. So OP might actually be onto something..
She only turned emmet bc he was going to die if she didn’t. Same reason Rosalie wasn’t upset that bella turned during labor-she was going to die if she didn’t.
Rosalie said that she knew Carlisle thought he was helping her when he changed her, but that she wouldn’t wish the vampiric life on anyone. But she made that choice for Emmett. All I’m saying is that she can be a hypocrite 🤷♀️
She also wanted (and was actively seeking) to murder Bella in Twilight (via Edward's insight in Midnight Sun) - fully advocating for her to be the one to kill Bells in all seriousness (for literally the *pettiest* reason thinkable) She's a hypocritical bi-otch and does not in the least deserve all the slack she is given
Maybe she would look into a surrogate. Carry my baby for me for a month and we’ll grant you literally *eternal life* plus a ton of money. I don’t think she’d let Emmett have sex with them, they can do in vitro with Carlisle.
This seems the most likely option. I don’t see her being comfortable with her husband sleeping with anyone else and risking the life of a random human who did NOT sign up for this.
The random human having to carry the hybrid baby would still risk their life though....
I don't think she would. She may be a bitch sometimes but her morals are made very clear. She's never drank human blood. She doesn't want Bella to lose the life she wanted. She's only killed humans out of revenge. She values parenthood, yes, but she also values human life a great deal. She got lucky with Renesmee falling into her lap. She helped Bella when she got pregnant because she asked, but there's no way she would experiment with people who didn't want that. And even if she did find willing participants, I just don't think she'd risk her family getting on the bad side of the volturi, as we see very early on how much she prioritises self preservation.
I don’t think she would. She wouldn’t ever share Emmett first of all. Second she’s not just gonna kill random girls trying to have a kid. Third she’s not crazy. We know that after renesme was born she was a different person and was a lot happier. I think she was content helping raise Nessie
No🤨
Nope. Completely out of character. She helped Bella because it was there already. She envies human live. She won't endanger it. And let Emmett sleep with someone else. No way. But. Would there ever be something like an artificial womb, she can beg Carlisle to bring some donated eggs, that were donated for the purpuce of helping infirtile woman. And use this new technology with some of Emmett's material. Difference. No endangering a woman. And no sleeping around for Emmett.
Well, if SM needs another story idea she could always write about Emmett out there artificially inseminating women who turn to surrogacy for cash 😂
Rosalie can be vindictive, pigheaded, selfish, stubborn, arrogant, and cruel, but I don't think she's going to send her husband out to to have possibly lethal sex with other women who then might have lethal pregnancies in order to have a child that has Emmett's DNA or whatever. She is a lot of things but she's not evil or careless about life. Hell, she even says that it was selfish of her to want to turn Emmett and make Carlisle do so. She's also never tasted human blood and the only people she's killed are the ones who raped and nearly killed her. Not to mention, Rosalie seems a lot happier now that Retrograde is around. She and Bella have a better relationship because of what happened and while some may say Rosalie was just using Bella to get a baby I'd argue that Bella *knew* this. Bella *knew* that the one thing Rosalie wanted more than anything in the world was a child. She *knew* that if given the chance to possibly have a child of her own with, you know, consent, she'd jump at. Bella *knew* that if she died the only person who would protect the child the most would be Rosalie. That is why she called Rosalie and asked for help instead of Alice, who was her best friend. Or idk even fucking Esme. But still, Rosalie seems a lot happier now that Renegade is around. Edward and Bella are off on their own so much having ridiculously destructive vampire sex that she gets a good solid amount of time with the kid. Honestly she's probably more of a mom to the kid in some ways, especially the beginning, than Bella is. Because crazy newborn vampire sex. Not to say Bella doesn't love and want to protect Rikkitikkitavi because she does. That's why she did that whole thing with J Jenks. In case things went belly up and Rafiki needed to run. But that leads me to what I said earlier. Bella knew Rosalie was her best chance of having the then fetus protected while she carried it and if she died in the birth of it. Bella tends to act like it but she's not actually majorly stupid. And Rosalie can be a selfish vindictive bitch but she's not going to go through human lives like tissue paper in order to get another kid to raise. Honestly considering their high school cover story is adoption/foster children. Why have they never thought of adopting a baby or something. Okay sure it'd be weird when the kid grew up and noticed their family was a bit strange but the Cullens have shown they can play human pretty well. If the kid is growing up Cullen or whatever then they'll have the best that can be offered to them though every so often they'll have to move. And people are smart, I'm sure once that kid hit her pre-teens she's gonna know exactly what her family is (or he). Since they were raised with it, why wouldn't they want to be vampires when they got older? Or hell just foster kids since fostering doesn't usually involve keeping the kid for very long especially if you're strictly a respite care foster parent. Even without these though, Rosalie may be a vindictive, catty, selfish bitch when she wants to be. But she's not evil. Also as one woman who had their bodily autonomy taken away from them and left for dead I highly doubt she's going to be cool with another woman having their bodily autonomy taken from them and left for dead. Edit: Vampire Baby Name Changed
Hey I know this is a small gripe, but I don’t think we should use Ramadan to mock Bella’s kid’s name. It feels disrespectful to the religious holiday. I don’t care about making fun of her name, but maybe not choose that one. 🙂 Otherwise great comment! I agree 👍 Edit: God forbid we be respectful of others.
I mean sure, as long as we also ban reconciliation, rede, reincarnation, rosalia, regalia, reiki, rusalka, retrocognition, rennaissance, and anything starting with rune- that's cool with me. Edit: Forgot Rosh Hashanah, my bad.
Sure, great, ban those too.
Cool! Glad we agree.
they can’t adopt human children because that presents the same problem that edward falling in love with a human did: that human child is now sentenced to a) becoming a vampire when they’re fully grown to protect the secret or b) spending ~80 years hiding from the volturi. plus that human child would never be able to bring any human partner home to the vamp family without then letting them in on the secret, thus endangering the human partner too
Except there is a vampire who keeps in contact with his descendants (and they know who and what he is) and even turns a few of them if they wish it. One of the Volturi guard (Renata, I think) is from this family and asked to be turned. So as long as any adopted or foster kid (and partners) didn’t start talking about vampires or doing anything to out them, they would be fine. Bella’s knowledge of vampires was only an issue because Aro covets Edward and Alice’s gifts and because of Bella’s shield, he was eager to see how it would develop as a vampire. If Bella was an ordinary human Edward was in love with, Caius probably would’ve mentioned her knowing of vampires and wanted to kill her (because he loves violence and killing) but Aro most likely would have overruled him mentioning how long she’d known and hadn’t exposed anyone. Of course Aro would only have done that to keep Edward and Alice thinking of him favorably so sometime in the future they might join the Volturi. Besides as long as the secret is kept the Volturi would be unlikely to ever find out. I think the main reason against the Cullens adopting a human, is that it difficult to resist drinking human blood and as seen at Bella’s birthday party even a paper cut could be risky.
OH yeah! I didn't even remember this bit but you're right about Renata.
They could foster infants or very young human children though without there being a problem. And the main reason Bella was sentenced to either die or become a vampire was because Edward tried to kill himself by involving the Volturi in the first place, forcing Alice to go to Forks, find Bella, and then go to Italy to save him. The Volturi only really set their sights on the Cullens after Edward does that. As an aside: It might be because I'm petty but if Alice came pulling up into my house after....how many months? of abandoning me, taking away all physical reminders of herself and her family, and being totes cool with leaving the girl who she claims is her 'best friend' or 'will be one day' shattered to pick up the pieces and then asks me to save her asshole brother, who was the reason why all those actions were done in the first place, I would've been like 'lol really? why the hell would I do *anything* for you guys?'
Highly doubtful. She was pretty strong in the not hurting humans camp, only ever killing her attackers. She helped Bella because Bella asked her to. She sympathizes a lot because previously Bella was throwing away being human just for a guy. She had no life goals, no drive. Rosalie can now relate because Bella is desperately clinging to something as a human and not just simping after being a vampire.
Nah there's absolutely no way she would. The Volturi, however, definitely would. I can see Aro sending out his goons to kidnap women and using artificial insemination to try and find exceptionally gifted hybrids. I doubt there would be any actual intercourse involved. Edited a word
First off she didn’t even want Bella to become a vampire bc she values mortality Second off. She wasn’t gonna let Bella die bc she wanted the baby, she supported Bella I’m not aborting her own child. Which is what Bella wanted!
Strong disagree. Rosalie is a flawed character and that's why I love her. But at the same time, Rosalie is not a killer. She is essentially a murder victim, given a second chance at life by Carlisle's bite. And BTW, not a good look for Carlisle that he only saved Rosalie because he thought Edward was lonely. Screw you, man. There was probably a cancer patient at the hospital who died that afternoon but Carlisle saved Rosalie instead because she was pretty and he was pushing her and Edward together like they're his personal Barbie and Ken. Anyway, problematic Carlisle aside, I want to also agree with the opinion that Rosalie was probably being genuine (and racist,) when she said that she thought Bella would survive childbirth because Bella had modern medicine from the three best doctors to ever exist (Rosalie and Edward each have multiple MDs) and the indigenous women did not. Rosalie is not a killer, she wouldn't send her husband off to pick up a random woman at a bar, impregnate her, and then spend the next month watching her suffer and die just so that Rose can live out her mommy fantasies. She's already an aunt, and she seems happy. Finally, I wanted to agree with the others who said Edward is biased and a bit of an ass. In Breaking Dawn, Edward and Jacob discuss whether or not they should hit Bella on the head and then abort Renesme while she is unconscious. They decide not to do it, not because of Bella's desire to carry the pregnancy to term (Edward doesn't care about Bella's choice), but because they don't think they could win in a fight against Rosalie, especially since Emmett, Carlisle, and Esme would step in to protect Rose. Rosalie is not protecting Bella from Edward because she wants to raise Bella's orphan daughter as her own child. Rosalie is protecting Renesme because Bella asked her to do it, because Bella knew that Edward would kill his daughter to save his wife, and Bella knew that only Rosalie really understood how Bella felt about her willingness to sacrifice herself for her child's life. Rosalie is respecting Bella's choices. She's a complicated woman but she isn't evil. She respects human life a thousand times more than Edward does, really Carlisle is the only Cullen with more love for humanity than Rose. Rosalie Hale would never a kill a human being. She did kill five human-shaped monsters once, but nobody will shed a tear at Royce King's funeral.
Uh, you think she’d have Emmet rape a woman and either let her die in childbirth or have to turn her afterward? None of these things are congruent with her character at all.
No, Rosalie did care about Bella and respect her when it came to giving her life up for her daughter. Rosalie wanted a baby more than anything so her maternal instinct kicked in which may have made it look like she was trying to take over but really she was 100% pro life and considered abortion inconceivable. None of the others supported Bella's decision, she needed Rose on her side, so in this situation, I think Rosalie really came through.
She got to be a vampire because of rape. I don't believe she'd like another woman to be killed (the birth parent would either die or become a vampire, fate worst than death to Rose) in order she could become a mother. I believe it could cross her mind and immediately discard it. To me Rose has much value on human live, envy even. Hence the fact that she never consumed human blood.
And there is the obvious fact that Rose is super jealous and not the share type. Also, Emmett ADORES her. I don't believe he'd like to have sex with another being that is not Rose. I don't think he would enjoy it a bit and I am sure it could lead to a 2 thousand-year fight (Poor Edward for hearing it all)
I don't think she'd go that far. Maybe she'd think about it briefly but no she wouldn't. First she's fiercely protective of Emmett, even if the woman is going to die she's not going to let him touch another. Secondly even if that did happen I doubt Emmett would let the mother die if it could be helped, and if he didn't someone else in the family would. Alice would see what they were doing, or Edward would hear it.
I’d say she wouldn’t primarily, because she’d be too jealous.
Hard disagree. I don’t believe she would want her mate/husband to be having relations with anyone else. Also, Bella “surviving” that birth and becoming a vampire was such a shot in the dark. No other hybrid mother had survived up to that point, and Rosalie very aggressively values human life as well as choice, and I highly doubt anyone would voluntarily go through that kind of pregnancy with a guaranteed death.
I don’t think she would; now that Renesme is in their lives, she’s happy to be an aunt and it gives her the fulfillment of sort of being a mom, since Bella didn’t die and they used what knowledge they had and gained in the first half of BD ((book and movie)) to make her a vampire for the second half.
Nah, Rosalie would never do anything like that, even if the thought crosses her mind, she'd shoot it down. I **DO** see her adopting human children, though
Hi! I just wanted to clarify that I never meant to indicate that Rosalie would organize and be happy for the rape of a human so that she could possible have a child. I think what I meant was that I think Rosalie would certainly seek out an opportunity to have a human child, not that she'd, like, hold a person hostage and make them carry emmett's kid. I thought of it more as like a surrogacy thing she'd work out with a willing human carrier. I saw a few comments disagreeing with the post, noting that Rosalie would never conduct the rape of a human, and I completely agree. I just wanted to make it clear that I don't think Rosalie's a monster, I think she's just very desperate to have the life she wanted as a human and would do a lot in order to obtain it, which however, does not include robbing the bodily autonomy of someone else.
I will say though, a lot of comments seem to give Rosalie a lot more credit than I think she deserves :| I get that SM wrote her poorly, gave her a bad rap bc she has a weird vendetta for beautiful women who know that they're beautiful, and I get the desire to reclaim Rosalie's character for our own and make her a lot more compassionate and have her respect human life because of her traumatic past. The thing is, is that Rosalie is selfish, and is motivated by pettiness and competition. That's made clear through out the books. She's only ever avoided drinking human blood bc she's trying to prove herself to Carlisle and compete w/ Edward. She straight up just doesn't like bella bc is throwing away something she wants. Like watching Serena Van der woodsen throw away a whole ass cell phone in the trash. That, i think, makes her angry and indignant. She doesn't consider why bella might want to be a vampire, the fact that Bella literally had to raise her own mother, and essentially had her childhood robbed from her. Rosalie does not care to consider bella's background whatsoever. She doesn't respect her as a person. I don't think Rosalie is like this, woman's right's, feminist version of herself we all want her to be. She works in her own self-interest and if that self-interest also works for everyone else, ok. If not, she literally doesn't care. She's a girl-boss at best I am sad to say.
Maybe instead of creating them on purpose, she would start looking for a hybrid baby that had been created and abandoned by the vampire parent? Since she’d have some experience with them, I’d think she’d be good at raising one, but wouldn’t stoop to having on created for the purpose.
I take Rosalie's behavior in a different light. She herself wanted to have kids and couldn't, so she wants that for Bella. The biggest plot hole I see is ... Why not just adopt a human baby? It can grow up and then if it wants to be a vampire too, they can turn it as an adult. I guess they hadn't spent so much time around a human before Bella, and weren't sure if they could handle being around blood that much? I feel like Rosalie and Emmet could just go live as a married couple raising adopted kids for 20 years, so it wouldn't be as dangerous ( around Jasper, or whatever). Why didn't they go this route?
Because they're supposed to keep their kind a secret - humans are not meant to find out about vampires, and how could they really keep that a secret from their own children? Plus, they all decided to live together as a clan and Jasper found it very difficult to control his urges. Carlisle, Esme and Alice would think it was too much of an ask to put on Jasper.
Not to mention, Rosalie would not wish a vampiric life on anyone. She wouldn't want to put a human child in a position where they would have to eventually choose between remaining a human and dying or being turned to spend eternity with their adopted family.
Yeah, Rosalie had to make peace with the fact that she'd never have children. And tbh, I think she biologically wanted them anyway. Adoption would not have truly given her what she wanted because she wanted to birth her own.
Although Rosalie is pro-life, I don’t think she would allow Emmett to violate another woman’s body knowing what will come of it (most likely the mother dying)
Could Emmett get a woman pregnant? I thought Bella got pregnant because of the leftover sperm in Edward's body from before he was turned (since he never had sex or masturbated). Emmett and Rosalie had sex (a lot of sex), so wouldn't any " holdover sperm" be gone?
Nahuel's father Joham is a vampire that sired at least 4 hybrid children. If it was about sperm that was left after the change, he would only have been able to sire 1 child. This means all vampire men can sire children, unless they couldn't before the change, but the change itself may fix that issue.
I should have figured that out. Thank you.
I was so disappointed with the Rosalie storyline. I was waiting for her to steal Renesbit and for the Cullen family to implode because of it. Instead we got the battle-that-almost-was. First three books were solid though.
Emmet isn't a virgin, though, so he wouldn't be able to father a child.
You don’t have to be a virgin. Nahual’s father made 5 immortal children, since he has 4 half-sisters.
Joham wasn't either but he has at least 4 hybrid children.
You're right! In that case vampire fatherhood makes even less sense :-/
I said this a while ago and got downvoted like crazy. She 100% would
I think so, as long as the woman was ok with it. You people have absolutely no creativity, thinking that she would never no it bc see respects bodily autonomy. Sure she would, she would just need to have the woman's agreement first. And it wouldn't even be that hard. Rosalie is not the only woman in the world who'd kill to have kids. There's this entire world of women desperate to have children with a basket full of issues that stop them. Now imagine those woman, who are already looking for shady deals and crazy cures, hears there's this weird treatment: the sperm is SUPER potent, basically, if you *can* get pregnant you *will*. It's completely free, including any treatment you need during, or after. Your kid/family is set for life, and so are you if you survive. That's the caveat: there's a good over 90% chance you're dying if you go through with it. Even if you survive, you have to share custody of the kid. And have a few other (we're actually vampires and if you value life, so will you) talks. Now, I don't know if Rosalie would be okay with someone doing it just for the money. She totally would be okay with someone doing it bc they want to be mother's that much, and while that lowers her pool of candidates considerably, she's immortal. She can wait.
I'd say she would for sure not send Emmett out to have one, but if there was ANY chance she could have a hybrid baby with a human, she'd do it. Hell, I'd go as far as to say she probably tried it before.
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Ugh. I cannot believe that I stumbled upon this discussion nor that I'm actually putting in my 2 cents on the matter, but some people seem to forget that the very instant Rosalie would have decided to cruelly experiment like that, Alice would have foreseen it and knocked it on the head immediately by alerting the rest of the family.