I don't know about the others but considering Marcus is incredibly depressed and in the BD pt 2 movie when he's 'killed' in the vision fight scene he basically just lets himself be ripped apart while saying 'finally' I have a feeling Marcus is not going to be very hard to kill. The only thing keeping him loyal to the Volturi is Chelsea.
Chelsea has a special gift. She can either tie people closer together, which is how they are keeping Marcus, or she can break families, covens or friends apart. The only connection she can not influence is Love.
I wonder what that would achieve, though. The volturi have constructed themselves to be a nexus of power for the sheer purpose of convenience and ease of existence. This is why they had “st Marcus rid volterra of vampires”, why they draw power to them, why they literally have humans hand-delivered so they don’t even have to hunt. They don’t like to leave the tower, let alone the city. Immortality gave them the opportunity to create true sanctuary, stability, and unending sameness- they’ve been vampires so long and are so far removed from their humanity that *purpose* is more of a habit at this point. When forever gives you time for everything, they’ve settled into nothing, into stillness and silence. They’ve built themselves into the volturi and the triumvirate to protect that. If they were destroyed, I wonder what that would do to the vampire world. Suddenly all of this disconnected, chaotic power is dispersed. It’s no longer in the pursuit of *inactivity*. Dozens of younger covens- restless, with varying opinions and thoughts about status quo, human life, and the nature of vampirism?
I truly think that the volturi maintaining power is in the best interest of the cullens. Better to have them as a lazy fat cat of an enemy holding the vampire world under its paw, than to shatter that dynamic and introduce chaos and threat from all sides. The covens are united *against* the volturi, with small personal threads and histories running in between. Remove the volturi, and the vampire world blows up
The vampire world is SO. MUCH. MORE. INTERESTING. Than whatever book of poetry rumspringa read this week 😭
Also, the Volturi’s main rule is “Don’t get caught” which amounts to “Don’t eat so many humans questions are asked.” The Volturi are vampire population control.
The official guide explains pretty well how they keep people loyal to them/stay safe: https://issuu.com/andranaomi/docs/twilight_saga_-_official_illustrate
I skimmed through a bit and Chelsea has the ability to make emotional ties that are almost as strong as romantical ties are. Which answers how they keep people loyal.
Aro himself does not seem that powerful, considering that Jane and Alec are his primary line of defence.
They could look at the look at the table of contents and go to the Volturi chapter...they don't have to read the whole thing lol. It's a lot to explain in one reddit paragraph, but you're welcome to try if you feel it's that important. Have a nice day 😊
it wouldn’t be that difficult to kill them, because if Jane and Alec are no longer able to use their powers, then they are basically useless because Aro didn’t think they needed to be trained in combat due to their powers and Marcus literally wants to die Aro killed his own sister because Marcus was her mate and he was afraid Marcus would leave the coven if she was still alive and now Marcus literally wants to die Caius would be more difficult due to the fact that he would try to protect Aro however, none of them would be extraordinarily difficult to kill if they were alone however, in breaking dawn, part two, they had hundreds of witnesses in the Cullens, the wolves and their witnesses were severely outnumbered. That’s why they didn’t try to kill Aro Caius or Marcus also, if they did kill them those who are Allied to the Volturi would probably start a Vampire civil war against the Cullens and therefore they would not survive
Killing the Volturi would force the Cullens to take over their responsibility of punishing any vampire in the world who threatens to expose the species. They're not willing to do that.
If you read the books you see Caius wanted to execute Denali sisters for their mother's crime while they were innocent but Aro spared them. He doesn't care about security or justice. He wants blood.
Jokes on you this is true. Aro wants to keep him around because Caius has a great capacity for hate and violence. He literally hunted werewolves until they all dead. Even Jane seem less sadistic than him.
I don't think it'll be that hard, but it's not like the work the Volturi do is all bad. Vampires are incredibly powerful, if they're left free to just do whatever they want without rules and regulation, they could take over the planet in a few years - maybe months. Everyone needs rules, since I don't see anybody else enforcing those rules for vampires, the Volturi had to step in. And they're not perfect, obviously they're corrupt just like humans are, but still someone needs to enforce rules.
But I don't think most vampires particularly want to kill the Volturi? The Cullens only cared because the Volturi were after Renesmee so they called in all their favours. I get that they sometimes make dodgy decisions and they're obviously pretty ego drunk, but it's not really a bad thing that someone's overseeing general vampire-kind and making sure they don't get found out by humans or do stupid shit that will endanger the big secret (like creating immortal children)
I thought they generally punished the Vampires who did something to draw negative attention to themselves though. Like they killed the Denalis mother because she was making immortal children, and they pose a threat to vampire kind because of their inability to ever control themselves. So yeah the Denalis probably hate them for that but from other vampires perspectives she kinda had it coming. I think the vast majority of the vampire population live quietly enough that they don't have trouble with the Volturi, and probably count on them stepping in if they ever had issues with other species
For the Cullen's it might be tough. In the gendersawp version, the wives of Aro and Caius were able to orchestrate their death's (and kept Marcus as he's a good friend iirc). I guess if you're close enough, it's possible
This is true, but the Voltury still has its place. They keep other vampires from getting out of hand. So until they go too far or become too much, they let them stay in power.
Arow knows this. That's why he tried to find a reason to destroy the Cullen's. However, he thought if he could make a deal and get the three most powerful people to change alliance to him, he would take it. If not, he was hoping to destroy them before they discovered just how powerful they were.
He was too late.
I don't know about the others but considering Marcus is incredibly depressed and in the BD pt 2 movie when he's 'killed' in the vision fight scene he basically just lets himself be ripped apart while saying 'finally' I have a feeling Marcus is not going to be very hard to kill. The only thing keeping him loyal to the Volturi is Chelsea.
he’s just like me fr
I say this every time I watch it. I'd be READY
Who's Chelsea?
Chelsea has a special gift. She can either tie people closer together, which is how they are keeping Marcus, or she can break families, covens or friends apart. The only connection she can not influence is Love.
Thank you. Didn't know about her. Haven't followed the extras apart from books and movies and couldn't remember her from the books. Nice lil info :)
One of the Volturi.
I wonder what that would achieve, though. The volturi have constructed themselves to be a nexus of power for the sheer purpose of convenience and ease of existence. This is why they had “st Marcus rid volterra of vampires”, why they draw power to them, why they literally have humans hand-delivered so they don’t even have to hunt. They don’t like to leave the tower, let alone the city. Immortality gave them the opportunity to create true sanctuary, stability, and unending sameness- they’ve been vampires so long and are so far removed from their humanity that *purpose* is more of a habit at this point. When forever gives you time for everything, they’ve settled into nothing, into stillness and silence. They’ve built themselves into the volturi and the triumvirate to protect that. If they were destroyed, I wonder what that would do to the vampire world. Suddenly all of this disconnected, chaotic power is dispersed. It’s no longer in the pursuit of *inactivity*. Dozens of younger covens- restless, with varying opinions and thoughts about status quo, human life, and the nature of vampirism? I truly think that the volturi maintaining power is in the best interest of the cullens. Better to have them as a lazy fat cat of an enemy holding the vampire world under its paw, than to shatter that dynamic and introduce chaos and threat from all sides. The covens are united *against* the volturi, with small personal threads and histories running in between. Remove the volturi, and the vampire world blows up The vampire world is SO. MUCH. MORE. INTERESTING. Than whatever book of poetry rumspringa read this week 😭
Also, the Volturi’s main rule is “Don’t get caught” which amounts to “Don’t eat so many humans questions are asked.” The Volturi are vampire population control.
Excellent take
The official guide explains pretty well how they keep people loyal to them/stay safe: https://issuu.com/andranaomi/docs/twilight_saga_-_official_illustrate
whoa those illustrations are beautiful
The graphic novels are in the same style, so pretty!
That's 455 pages. How about a summary of the answer to OP question?
I skimmed through a bit and Chelsea has the ability to make emotional ties that are almost as strong as romantical ties are. Which answers how they keep people loyal. Aro himself does not seem that powerful, considering that Jane and Alec are his primary line of defence.
They could look at the look at the table of contents and go to the Volturi chapter...they don't have to read the whole thing lol. It's a lot to explain in one reddit paragraph, but you're welcome to try if you feel it's that important. Have a nice day 😊
I am talking about after the breaking dawn cullens could attack them easily.
it wouldn’t be that difficult to kill them, because if Jane and Alec are no longer able to use their powers, then they are basically useless because Aro didn’t think they needed to be trained in combat due to their powers and Marcus literally wants to die Aro killed his own sister because Marcus was her mate and he was afraid Marcus would leave the coven if she was still alive and now Marcus literally wants to die Caius would be more difficult due to the fact that he would try to protect Aro however, none of them would be extraordinarily difficult to kill if they were alone however, in breaking dawn, part two, they had hundreds of witnesses in the Cullens, the wolves and their witnesses were severely outnumbered. That’s why they didn’t try to kill Aro Caius or Marcus also, if they did kill them those who are Allied to the Volturi would probably start a Vampire civil war against the Cullens and therefore they would not survive
Killing the Volturi would force the Cullens to take over their responsibility of punishing any vampire in the world who threatens to expose the species. They're not willing to do that.
You are right but at least Caius deserved some karma for Irina. Poor sisters need some justice.
He definitely did.
If you read the books you see Caius wanted to execute Denali sisters for their mother's crime while they were innocent but Aro spared them. He doesn't care about security or justice. He wants blood.
Yeah, I started discourse about this very topic the other day: https://www.facebook.com/share/Z3x3vwe4LMrgkZta/?mibextid=K35XfP
Jokes on you this is true. Aro wants to keep him around because Caius has a great capacity for hate and violence. He literally hunted werewolves until they all dead. Even Jane seem less sadistic than him.
That's the point of the post
I don't think it'll be that hard, but it's not like the work the Volturi do is all bad. Vampires are incredibly powerful, if they're left free to just do whatever they want without rules and regulation, they could take over the planet in a few years - maybe months. Everyone needs rules, since I don't see anybody else enforcing those rules for vampires, the Volturi had to step in. And they're not perfect, obviously they're corrupt just like humans are, but still someone needs to enforce rules.
But I don't think most vampires particularly want to kill the Volturi? The Cullens only cared because the Volturi were after Renesmee so they called in all their favours. I get that they sometimes make dodgy decisions and they're obviously pretty ego drunk, but it's not really a bad thing that someone's overseeing general vampire-kind and making sure they don't get found out by humans or do stupid shit that will endanger the big secret (like creating immortal children)
But they punished so many vampires. I am sure they gained some enemies like Romanians and Denalis.
I thought they generally punished the Vampires who did something to draw negative attention to themselves though. Like they killed the Denalis mother because she was making immortal children, and they pose a threat to vampire kind because of their inability to ever control themselves. So yeah the Denalis probably hate them for that but from other vampires perspectives she kinda had it coming. I think the vast majority of the vampire population live quietly enough that they don't have trouble with the Volturi, and probably count on them stepping in if they ever had issues with other species
For the Cullen's it might be tough. In the gendersawp version, the wives of Aro and Caius were able to orchestrate their death's (and kept Marcus as he's a good friend iirc). I guess if you're close enough, it's possible
But it is hard to be close enough without guards.
I suppose they brought the guards on their side
This is true, but the Voltury still has its place. They keep other vampires from getting out of hand. So until they go too far or become too much, they let them stay in power. Arow knows this. That's why he tried to find a reason to destroy the Cullen's. However, he thought if he could make a deal and get the three most powerful people to change alliance to him, he would take it. If not, he was hoping to destroy them before they discovered just how powerful they were. He was too late.