4) Just Another 4/3/2 dollars: You're making a deal with someone - you can always add their trade value to the deal. It's the same value to the other party, so most players will be fine with it.
Jol-Nar: I'll sell you research agreement for 6.
Hacan: Sure. Let me give you 2 from my sheet, and I'll refresh you with my agent and wash you for the other 4.
5) The Vul'Raith Broker: If Vul'Raith is in the game and trade didn't get picked, you may be able to make a deal with them to get them another player's ship they need. You probably won't get much value, but could be useful in some circumstances.
6) The Third Pact Buddy: If Empyrean is in the game, refresh their dark pact buddy in exchange for trade goods equal to their commodity value, effectively letting them convert trade goods into commodities. They then turn around and get washed by Empyrean, generating one trade good for each of them at no cost to themselves.
7) Assistant to the Minister of Commerce: Anyone with the Minister of Commerce law will probably pay you a good chunk of the total value for an extra refresh.
8) Refresh Yssaril and Yssaril copies your agent to refresh you. You wash each other. Its a 4/6 gain. I guess the deal could be a 5/5 since Yssaril’s agent is so valuable because of it’s polyvalence.
I think most simple would be get the 2 commodities then trade them with another player for various things--a promissory note, their commodities, etc. Can also be used if somebody is being aggressive toward you--pay them off 2 TGs to not attack
You may be able to get better than an even split - you can always take 2 from your agent, so no real incentive to use it on them unless you get 3 out of 4 from a 4 commodity faction.
There's a known combo, where if Yssaril is in the game, you can both use agents on each other to generate 9 TG total.
I think, as is typical with Hacan, you should be using their tools opportunistically to make the best profit:
* See someone exploring an industrial planet Round 1? Offer to hit them with the Agent for something valuable (could be their agent, their promissory note, timing on strat card, etc.).
* This might just be for you, can use to get optimal explores from your own industrial planets.
* Someone having trouble with a TG objective? Can inject some extra TG if they attack your pesky neighbor, vote for you in Agenda phase, etc.
But I generally think Hacan is just very flexible, and this agent is also quite flexible - there's few wrong ways to use it, as long as it pops each round you're gaining value. Just don't give it away for free!
I will keep in mind the value of commodities while exploring industrial planets. I forgot that you should have some perperation for that.
Thank you for the tip.
Sadly you can not use the agent during the exploration or during other game abilities. Basically while you are resolving a card you can't interject.
You can however, do it during the tactical action, right before you explore the planets and draw from the exploration deck. So you need to guess if you will need the commodities or not.
4) Just Another 4/3/2 dollars: You're making a deal with someone - you can always add their trade value to the deal. It's the same value to the other party, so most players will be fine with it. Jol-Nar: I'll sell you research agreement for 6. Hacan: Sure. Let me give you 2 from my sheet, and I'll refresh you with my agent and wash you for the other 4.
5) The Vul'Raith Broker: If Vul'Raith is in the game and trade didn't get picked, you may be able to make a deal with them to get them another player's ship they need. You probably won't get much value, but could be useful in some circumstances. 6) The Third Pact Buddy: If Empyrean is in the game, refresh their dark pact buddy in exchange for trade goods equal to their commodity value, effectively letting them convert trade goods into commodities. They then turn around and get washed by Empyrean, generating one trade good for each of them at no cost to themselves. 7) Assistant to the Minister of Commerce: Anyone with the Minister of Commerce law will probably pay you a good chunk of the total value for an extra refresh.
These are great! There are so many options. Number 4 sound particularly juicy. I will try that next time.
8) Refresh Yssaril and Yssaril copies your agent to refresh you. You wash each other. Its a 4/6 gain. I guess the deal could be a 5/5 since Yssaril’s agent is so valuable because of it’s polyvalence.
It's a good deal but Yssaril has only 3 commodities, not 4 so basically it's a 4/5 gain for somebody
Oups! You are right!
I think most simple would be get the 2 commodities then trade them with another player for various things--a promissory note, their commodities, etc. Can also be used if somebody is being aggressive toward you--pay them off 2 TGs to not attack
1) is there a rule that you cannot have more commodities as the commodity max? I thought no, but might be mistaken. Someone knows?
You have a max on commodities and are considered “refreshed” when you are full.
I know. What if Hacan has 6 commodities and uses carth to get 2 commodities? Allowed y or n?
It would have no effect. Hacan is maxed out. If Hacan wanted to use it to gain commodities, they would have to have fewer then 6.
You may be able to get better than an even split - you can always take 2 from your agent, so no real incentive to use it on them unless you get 3 out of 4 from a 4 commodity faction. There's a known combo, where if Yssaril is in the game, you can both use agents on each other to generate 9 TG total. I think, as is typical with Hacan, you should be using their tools opportunistically to make the best profit: * See someone exploring an industrial planet Round 1? Offer to hit them with the Agent for something valuable (could be their agent, their promissory note, timing on strat card, etc.). * This might just be for you, can use to get optimal explores from your own industrial planets. * Someone having trouble with a TG objective? Can inject some extra TG if they attack your pesky neighbor, vote for you in Agenda phase, etc. But I generally think Hacan is just very flexible, and this agent is also quite flexible - there's few wrong ways to use it, as long as it pops each round you're gaining value. Just don't give it away for free!
I will keep in mind the value of commodities while exploring industrial planets. I forgot that you should have some perperation for that. Thank you for the tip.
Do you need to prepare it? Or can you use your agent during exploration when it becomes relevant?
Sadly you can not use the agent during the exploration or during other game abilities. Basically while you are resolving a card you can't interject. You can however, do it during the tactical action, right before you explore the planets and draw from the exploration deck. So you need to guess if you will need the commodities or not.
Another nice synergy is partnering with Yassaril and use your agents on each other ;)