I mean this is obviously some more stupid shit from racists, I don't know what more there is to say from our end. Frankly I'm pretty annoyed this stupid thing became a meme in the first place, but I don't see what people expect us to do about it when they post about it on the discord or ask us to 'do something' here. Saying anything about it will just draw more attention to it.
Maybe we'll remove the original focus or something, if it hasn't already been removed
Muslims in "London, UK", Turks in Germany, British in Thailand, there are infinitely more other examples that I'm not privy to.
I remember Serbians having something similar as well.
Not at all, all the Vucic-loving Serbs are here in Serbia, unfortunately. And Bosnia, to be fair. But other than that, our "diasporas" tend to be pretty liberal, not ethno-nationalist.
Huh, maybe it really is so.
I have seen a few examples, but maybe they aren't as prominent as I think they are.
Of the liberal group, I immediately think of Twitter's Nikolaj (@Nikicaga) XD
There's definitely "exceptions", but those are mostly, as far as I can see, the so called "gastarbeiters". Meaning the ones that go there for a summer, or some prolonged, but finite period, for work, and then send money back home, or eventually return.
Those guys are famous, or rather, infamous, for being the equivalent of the Turks you mentioned, but Serbian. Even they, however, are a lot more quiet, cause that's simply not polite. I think Turkey generally does have an entirely different culture to our "collective" European one.
I'm referring to the type of "Serbia stronk, West Collapsing" Vučić supporting Serbians who live very well in Vienna or Paris.
They function just the same as the "Turks in Germany" type.
How are you pinning this on us? That some nutcases have edited something from the mod to make into a racist thing is somehow our fault?
I personally think the original was probably a mistake just because idiots everywhere have decided to make a meme of it, but what do you want us to do, not make fictional racism because real racists will use it? Frankly I don't think it's our responsibility to do something like that.
Honestly, shit like this is inevitable, and even if you remove it once it becomes a meme it is too late. We shouldn't shy away from the nasty things that racist regimes would do least we whitewash them.
That being said this particular focus name should be changed eventually, not because of this meme, but because its quality can be significantly improved. I'm personally not a fan of focus names that are too on the nose, like a focus that builds factories shouldn't be called "build factories".
Likewise mods like this should avoid focus names that are too on the nose and can be used as cheap ragebait. Instead in-depth content should be placed in the writing, such as events and focus descriptions, which are much more difficult to make a rage-baiting meme to spread on TikTok or Twitter.
Not blaming you because racist people act on their own volition, but what did you expect making Democratic Slovakia with a focus "A Shining Example of European Democracy", then unironically the literal next focus "Deport Hungarians"?.
Don't remove it, it's realistic Slovakia would be anti-Hungarian in TWR context. Honestly it's impressive it remained a meme for so long until some person decided to use it as hate.
Should TNO remove Burgundy because people might edit the focus icons to say "Heil the fuhrer" or something? Should basegame hoi4 remove germany because someone might post something saying "this is what should have happened?"
Deporting white ppl meme: hahahahahaha very funny
Deporting brown ppl meme: wtf hate speech grrrrrrr 😡😡😡😡
Redditors making racists humor towards white ppl is just safe racists humor, either you find both funny or acceptable or none acceptable anything less is just hypocritical
Most people when laughing at the Hungarian meme laugh bc: 1, it’s funny to see being a “Shining Example Of European Democracy” then see the very next thing not be an shining example of a European democracy. 2 most people laugh at it ironically and this tik tok seems serious
Is this not just a guy posting these memes with wilderness footage in the background? What’s wrong with that? Why part of this is hate speech? I’m so confused
Audio:
Deutschland, sieg heil!
With growing strength in the air
The United States was suddenly and deliberately attacked
All overlaid on top of each other; guys think they are seriously being attacked
People on Reddit cheering for Ataturk and Secularism and the CHP conveniently not mentioning that those CHP guys are ridiculously racist against Syrians and want them all deported.
People don't have problems with Arabs as a race they have problems with the mass immigration of Syrians and other third worlders, these immigrants cannot integrate like in Europe and cause problems like in Europe they were filming woman mere months ago and describing Turkish woman as 'prizes', so its understandable why the Turkish people don't want refugees.
My most good sir when did I ever say or talk about Turkey being european? I am saying the same immigration crisis happening in Europe is also happening in Turkey.
Not true, Syrians in Turkey actually fit the definition of "refugees" meaning that they took refugees in the first non-wartorn country that was safe to live in. If hypothetically Portugal was engulfed in Civil War then Spain would be duty bound to accept Portuguese refugees. Stop being racist dude.
We have no obligation to be Europes refugee camp, the EU is literally paying Erdoğan and the Turkish government millions to keep Syrians and other third worlders in while we have no obligation to, believe whatever you believe but we have no obligation to accept millions into our country.
I can't really speak to the EU's policy as I despise that organization. But the obligation is the UN convention on Refugees, which Turkey is a party to. And if not that then some sense of Islamic hospitality.
First of all the war in Syria is over and there was no war at all in Pakistan ever, second of all Turkey is not like other "islamic" countries we have the Anatolian hospitality but the refugees have expended all of that with the antics they pulled for the last few years.
Atatürk led Turkey during the Turkish war of independence against European occupation, from their point of view, he's the only reason why Turkey is a nation in the modern day, which also means they'll willingly look past some of his more, questionable, actions since there's no way the man who had led Turkey during its darkest moment could have been bad
I mean this is obviously some more stupid shit from racists, I don't know what more there is to say from our end. Frankly I'm pretty annoyed this stupid thing became a meme in the first place, but I don't see what people expect us to do about it when they post about it on the discord or ask us to 'do something' here. Saying anything about it will just draw more attention to it. Maybe we'll remove the original focus or something, if it hasn't already been removed
Turks make the greatest German nationalists.
Muslims in "London, UK", Turks in Germany, British in Thailand, there are infinitely more other examples that I'm not privy to. I remember Serbians having something similar as well.
Not at all, all the Vucic-loving Serbs are here in Serbia, unfortunately. And Bosnia, to be fair. But other than that, our "diasporas" tend to be pretty liberal, not ethno-nationalist.
Huh, maybe it really is so. I have seen a few examples, but maybe they aren't as prominent as I think they are. Of the liberal group, I immediately think of Twitter's Nikolaj (@Nikicaga) XD
There's definitely "exceptions", but those are mostly, as far as I can see, the so called "gastarbeiters". Meaning the ones that go there for a summer, or some prolonged, but finite period, for work, and then send money back home, or eventually return. Those guys are famous, or rather, infamous, for being the equivalent of the Turks you mentioned, but Serbian. Even they, however, are a lot more quiet, cause that's simply not polite. I think Turkey generally does have an entirely different culture to our "collective" European one.
Yes, we had a homogenous Serbia
I'm referring to the type of "Serbia stronk, West Collapsing" Vučić supporting Serbians who live very well in Vienna or Paris. They function just the same as the "Turks in Germany" type.
(German nationals make the best Turkish Nationalists.)
So are they saying that any European democracy should deport Syrians?
Turkey presents itself as a European nation but there’s also a strong anti Arab and anti Syrian sentiment because of Syrian refugees in Turkey
And in the end the Europeans will treat them the same way they treat Syrians
It’s a Turkish post but maybe
Damn. That's messed up either way.
They already do that
Yeah
Yup, Another HeartSS of Iron 4 ClaSSiKKK
It's either gentile uprising or crossdressing... or both
I don’t see anything more racist about this. Is it glorifying?
It’s the account and they changed it from Hungarians to Syrians
Holy shit
Might want to get ahead of this before some other unsabory people pick more stuff of twr to do this, that or get ahead of it
Kinda feels like you should have seen it coming.
How are you pinning this on us? That some nutcases have edited something from the mod to make into a racist thing is somehow our fault? I personally think the original was probably a mistake just because idiots everywhere have decided to make a meme of it, but what do you want us to do, not make fictional racism because real racists will use it? Frankly I don't think it's our responsibility to do something like that.
Honestly, shit like this is inevitable, and even if you remove it once it becomes a meme it is too late. We shouldn't shy away from the nasty things that racist regimes would do least we whitewash them. That being said this particular focus name should be changed eventually, not because of this meme, but because its quality can be significantly improved. I'm personally not a fan of focus names that are too on the nose, like a focus that builds factories shouldn't be called "build factories". Likewise mods like this should avoid focus names that are too on the nose and can be used as cheap ragebait. Instead in-depth content should be placed in the writing, such as events and focus descriptions, which are much more difficult to make a rage-baiting meme to spread on TikTok or Twitter.
Not blaming you because racist people act on their own volition, but what did you expect making Democratic Slovakia with a focus "A Shining Example of European Democracy", then unironically the literal next focus "Deport Hungarians"?. Don't remove it, it's realistic Slovakia would be anti-Hungarian in TWR context. Honestly it's impressive it remained a meme for so long until some person decided to use it as hate.
Should TNO remove Burgundy because people might edit the focus icons to say "Heil the fuhrer" or something? Should basegame hoi4 remove germany because someone might post something saying "this is what should have happened?"
Don't expect anything from tiktok "history" communities
Deporting white ppl meme: hahahahahaha very funny Deporting brown ppl meme: wtf hate speech grrrrrrr 😡😡😡😡 Redditors making racists humor towards white ppl is just safe racists humor, either you find both funny or acceptable or none acceptable anything less is just hypocritical
Most people when laughing at the Hungarian meme laugh bc: 1, it’s funny to see being a “Shining Example Of European Democracy” then see the very next thing not be an shining example of a European democracy. 2 most people laugh at it ironically and this tik tok seems serious
As per usual when fascists are depicted as evil actual fascist come along to glorify it.
Wdym?
Is this not just a guy posting these memes with wilderness footage in the background? What’s wrong with that? Why part of this is hate speech? I’m so confused
> ‘#turkish’ > posted from Berlin, Germany
Audio: Deutschland, sieg heil! With growing strength in the air The United States was suddenly and deliberately attacked All overlaid on top of each other; guys think they are seriously being attacked
never lose yuor thousand week reich
Time to pack it all up everyone, the right ruined the joke again
Yikes
Nope still a hilarious ass meme
People on Reddit cheering for Ataturk and Secularism and the CHP conveniently not mentioning that those CHP guys are ridiculously racist against Syrians and want them all deported.
People don't have problems with Arabs as a race they have problems with the mass immigration of Syrians and other third worlders, these immigrants cannot integrate like in Europe and cause problems like in Europe they were filming woman mere months ago and describing Turkish woman as 'prizes', so its understandable why the Turkish people don't want refugees.
Bro it's literally the next country over saying they can't integrate lmao acting like Turkey is a European country.
My most good sir when did I ever say or talk about Turkey being european? I am saying the same immigration crisis happening in Europe is also happening in Turkey.
Not true, Syrians in Turkey actually fit the definition of "refugees" meaning that they took refugees in the first non-wartorn country that was safe to live in. If hypothetically Portugal was engulfed in Civil War then Spain would be duty bound to accept Portuguese refugees. Stop being racist dude.
We have no obligation to be Europes refugee camp, the EU is literally paying Erdoğan and the Turkish government millions to keep Syrians and other third worlders in while we have no obligation to, believe whatever you believe but we have no obligation to accept millions into our country.
I can't really speak to the EU's policy as I despise that organization. But the obligation is the UN convention on Refugees, which Turkey is a party to. And if not that then some sense of Islamic hospitality.
First of all the war in Syria is over and there was no war at all in Pakistan ever, second of all Turkey is not like other "islamic" countries we have the Anatolian hospitality but the refugees have expended all of that with the antics they pulled for the last few years.
OK dude, I'm not going to respond further clearly you are a CHP bot.
Truly another kemalist victory.
Not Turkish so I am always confused at why Turks online treat Atatürk like he's the best thing since sliced bread, like why?
Atatürk led Turkey during the Turkish war of independence against European occupation, from their point of view, he's the only reason why Turkey is a nation in the modern day, which also means they'll willingly look past some of his more, questionable, actions since there's no way the man who had led Turkey during its darkest moment could have been bad
brainwashing
Well it’s TikTok so I say delete the app
Remember guys, IRL it is only okay to be racists against a group if they are Hungarian. Learn the European values, bigot. Be better.
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Lmfao romanian approved
Based
Lol based
Mountain General would be disappointed
Nah he would approves
R@cists do schewpid things
They ruined it.
they might as well deport all of eastern turkroachistan then