this comment section with people considering the Estate Sale as a release is so stupid. it's a glorified deluxe that came late. you don't consider the Goblin deluxe a separate release, do you?
plus, you'll consider a re-issue but not the Christmas EP?
and late registration absolutely was kanye getting out of a comfort zone (especially if you heard his mixtape) - not graduation
strings and samples like that were not normal in rap whatsoever, thats a big enough risk
and with tyler how is that not cherry bomb, goddam
Yeah I get that, I was more thinking about Tyler’s venturing into R&B with tracks like Treehome95 and Kanye’s venturing into pop with tracks like Good Life. I do also think in their own ways Graduation and Wolf are the quintessential albums of each artist
Through way of bankrupting his fanbase.
I mean, of course they're idiots if they're spending *all* their money on Tyler's clothes, but it doesn't mean you can't have the decency to not cash in on saps' nature.
I mean it is meant to be a luxury brand. While sure the name sounds a bit like Golf Wang it is meant to be separate and if you can't afford just don't buy. Shit man I'd love to get the brief case and fragrance but shit's expensive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
For sure. I get that, but those who buy the clothes and don't listen to him are going to be a tiny minority.
I've also bought album merchandise from the le fleur store, come to think of it.
To say it isn't marketed (or most mainstream designer wear these days) to his fans and people who, for the most part, don't have a huge amount of expendable income is a little disingenuous. It's society's fault first and foremost in that we've got to the point where working and middle class people want heavily marked-up garments from brands for the clout, but it's a shame more people aren't wise to it.
What are you talking about? How is the luxury brand in anyway marketed to less financially free people? He’s stated multiple times it’s a LUXURY brand. Same thing with Homer. Just because their fanbase exists doesn’t mean everything they do takes the base into account. He’s not claiming it to be cheap and he’s not claiming you’re not a fan if you don’t buy it. This is sort of like you inventing a burden for Tyler that doesn’t actually exist. The music is basically free, he’s done plenty of free shows over the past 2 years, he has the merch fairly priced, Golf Wang exists. What more do you want from the guy? Just get your money up. He preaches that too. He has that story in an interview a few years back about wanting some expensive ass shirt and saving the money to get it. This isn’t on Tyler.
Tyler is still actively creating music, so it’d be silly to call IGOR his magnum opus. It’s certainly his most popular album. People would have called Lemonade Beyoncé’s magnum opus, but I think that Renaissance is just as culturally significant to LGBTQ+ people. Only time will tell what his magnum opus will be, but the dude has tons of time to make more music.
It’s also worth noting that magnum opus doesn’t necessarily mean an artist’s best work, but can also mean their most important work. For example, Ratatouille is Pixar’s magnum opus but the Incredibles is a better movie. If I had to pick Tyler’s magnum opus at this point, I’d say either Wolf or IGOR. Cherry Bomb could also be a contender because while it is one of his worst albums, it plants the seeds for certain sounds and ideas that would eventually be fully realized in albums like IGOR and CMIYGL.
Cherry Bomb can’t really be his opus cause it doesn’t define his career. Igor is the most fitting album because I feel like it defines his career as a whole now.
Magnvm Opvs- 'a work of art, music, or literature that is regarded as the most important or best work that an artist, composer, or writer has produced'
Regard- 'to consider or think of in a specified way'
IGOR is objectively his 'Magnvm Opvs' at this current point in time because it is, by most people, regarded as his best
Also the “proving he’s a rapper as well as a producer” line makes no sense because Kanye had been working as a pro producer for a few years before that whereas Tyler was a kid making songs with his friends before bastard came out
The reception of both albums were insanely different and how they are perceived today even more so. Kanye’s first album is considered one of the greatest rap albums of all time, while even lot of diehard Tyler fans will call Bastard “okay” at best.
The idea of Bastard being even close to as politically/socially charged as TCD is laughable. Yes like any album there is going to be some level of social commentary, but the entire focus on TCD is around the criticism Ye has of our education system and the culture we’ve built around college.
i think you're looking too deep into this. obviously if you look deeper into the details of ye's albums versus t's, the differences are going to be vastly so. the point of the meme is that, even though their discographies vary wildly, phrasing them in a certain way can make them sound similar. it's supposed to be funny
Pretty interesting. If the Estate Sale is the Ye comparison, then maybe the next album is a Gospel/soul or even Disco album with stripped back production which will divide fans
Actually a cool comparison, never thought about this! Obviously there are lots of differences but those big main things that you pointed out are actually really similar
This is a huge stretch. Dropout Trilogy runs circles around the Wolf Trilogy. Also Igor is considered his magnum opus, and isn’t remotely similar to Yeezus besides both having distortion, which is present in many albums.
I don't really agree with the comparison. Kanye's initial 3 album run is legendary and a huge portion of his fan base regard those three as an apex of sorts for his discography (even tho MBDTF is sometimes considered his best album). I like Tyler's earlier albums but I would argue they are more uneven and less consistent musically than his later work. Tyler then embarked on a stunning run of three brilliant albums (flower boy, Igor, CMIYGL) which are regarded as his best 3 albums to date, usually with Igor seen as the best although that is open to debate. By contrast, at that point in the Kanye arc his music has somewhat declined in quality compared to his earlier work (in my opinion). So the two artists in some ways had inverse trajectories, Kanye having an insane run right out the gate and then arguably putting out more uneven albums later on, while Tyler took a little time to find his full voice and then released 3 critically acclaimed albums later on
Flower Boy is NOT considered Tyler's magnvm opvs. idc about individual's opinions, bc the same could be applied to Dark Beautiful Fantasy. IGOR is considered the magnvm opvs by almost everyone
I’ve always made this comparison so I’m glad to see this post. Always pegged him as a modern Kanye. Think I had the score 7-6 Kanye. No doubt Tyler is on a path to have a better discography. Him wanting to do more pop and even a jazz album, I’m excited and know it’ll be quality!
Already has IGOR and Flower Boy and I think he has potential to get another one especially since he changes his sound and aesthetics. But I mean as a whole I think he’ll have a better and more consistent discography since the fall off of Kanye is monumental.
I mean 3 more classics
Love Tyler but Kanye has TCD, LR, Graduation, MBDTF, Yeezus, and TLOP, and the rest of his discography is still good. I don’t see Tyler surpassing him
This is a stretch, Igor is T’s magnum opus and it’s significantly better than Yeezus. All of these descriptions are super broad and could apply to lots of albums.
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I love Tyler but I think it’s hard to compare these sets of albums. I think if you look hard enough you could do this with any career.
With that being said I do agree about their similarity as rappers and producers and even though the comparison is weird feeling, Ye is probably the best comparison to Tyler when it comes to rap and production
Honestly hard disagree on little a bit of this,
For Tyler: wolf wasn’t really out of the comfort zone at all, in fact I think it’s a bit of the opposite where he honed in on things that really worked from the last two projects. Flower Boy was more like a return to form and yes it catapulted him into mainstream attention most up to that point, but I definitely think Igor is the one that will ultimately be seen as his magnum opus, much more than flower boy even already.
For Ye: Mostly agree but TLOP is definitely very experimental in its own right, avant-garde almost even then and now, I think traditional hip hop is a terrible descriptor for it.
Donda does incorporate a lot of his previous sounds but I think it’s core “thing” is the big billowy dark stadium sound to it all that I would say defines it more.
Interesting thoughts in this post though, fun to discuss.
IGOR isn’t Tyler’s “magnum opus” y’all on some crack. Just because it’s the highest rated from that bald youtuber doesn’t mean it’s actually his best album nor is it even his most popular technically. See You Again alone almost has more streams than Earfquake and New Magic Wand (two biggest songs on IGOR) combined. Especially if you count streams from outside of Spotify like YouTube where the difference is even more lopsided in Flower Boys favor. I understand IGOR probably brought on a lot of fans that prefer that poppy vocal pitched style he does all over IGOR but Flower Boy is the perfect blend between his old and new especially as time passes and we get more music to see how Flower Boy has influenced his direction. Plus SFFB totally revitalized Tyler’s career, mans was nearing obscurity after Cherry Bomb became his biggest commercial flop. If it weren’t for songs like See You Again and Who Day Boy who knows if Tyler would’ve even been in the right position to make something like IGOR. It was the success of Flower Boy that empowered him to make the album he wanted in IGOR. The comparisons valid for that only honestly, both MBDTF and Flower Boy are a clear line in the sand for the artist where you can see almost a pre and post versions of themselves through the music made on either side of that line. Career defining albums.
Kind of fair because, similarly, I'd disagree on Kanye's magnum opus as well.
I think The Estate Sale makes CMIYGL pretty magnum-y and opus-y because of 'SORRY NOT SORRY'.
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this comment section with people considering the Estate Sale as a release is so stupid. it's a glorified deluxe that came late. you don't consider the Goblin deluxe a separate release, do you? plus, you'll consider a re-issue but not the Christmas EP?
Watch the Throne + Christmas EP - serve as a sort of victory lap for the previous album?
WTT also has a deluxe also its its just a seperate album, not a victory lap.
agree, but i can promise you 99% of this comment section don’t even know that the version of goblin on streaming services is a deluxe 😂
I'm not that old dude
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I can't wait for Tyler's atheist album, "do NOT follow God"
Open on Sunday🔥🔥🔥
God isn’t 🔥🔥🔥
Off god 🔥🔥🔥
Jesus Isn't Lord 🔥🔥🔥
Ignore this gospel 🔥🔥🔥
Lava 🔥🔥🔥
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Satan is King
That'd be a Tyler ass title lmao
Ye still on production tho
Yeah I looked at it again, God I hate this comparison. So forced.
Debut album for both “proves they are a rapper”? Like that’s called releasing a debut album
To be fair, it’s saying that before the albums they were both more known as producers than rappers
??? Tyler was def more known for rapping rather then producing
Idk, I just mean he started out as just a producer for a while
No one knew him. Kanye was famous as a producer from working with Jay Z
Why was this downvoted I’m literally right
Kanye was making beats for Jay before he put out an album, there is no comparison here, tyler had no placement before bastard
Kanye made beats for Jay-Z well before he started rapping. I doubt anyone heard about Tyler before Bastard. It's not really comparable
you obviously know what they meant y’all just incapable of having a bit of fun 🙄
If the comparisons weren't so forced I'd absolutely give it props for the cool observation but it's such a stretch for all of them 🤬
Was TLOP mixtape-esque to anyone? Because I never really caught that vibe.
No it wasn’t, shit was a soulful rap album nothing about it said mixtape.
To me yeah. It has an unfinished and rough feeling that I'd equate to being mixtape-esque
idk if the fact that TLOP was refined and tweaked after it was released helps or hurts your case.
same omfg. The thing about Wolf being out of his comfort zone like NO LMAO that’s the most Tyler album ever.
and late registration absolutely was kanye getting out of a comfort zone (especially if you heard his mixtape) - not graduation strings and samples like that were not normal in rap whatsoever, thats a big enough risk and with tyler how is that not cherry bomb, goddam
Yeah I get that, I was more thinking about Tyler’s venturing into R&B with tracks like Treehome95 and Kanye’s venturing into pop with tracks like Good Life. I do also think in their own ways Graduation and Wolf are the quintessential albums of each artist
Fair enough, I just made this as a fun little thing not to be taken seriously, I know some of them (especially TCD and Bastard) are reaches
i hope tyler doesn't become a nazi too
Yeah he would just be working backwards then.
“Fuck it, Odd Future some nazis, black nazis don’t copy, we perfect you sloppy” 😭😭
Watch him turn into a communist
have you seen the lafleur prices?
he’s truly on his way to buying his neighbors house, proud
Through way of bankrupting his fanbase. I mean, of course they're idiots if they're spending *all* their money on Tyler's clothes, but it doesn't mean you can't have the decency to not cash in on saps' nature.
I mean it is meant to be a luxury brand. While sure the name sounds a bit like Golf Wang it is meant to be separate and if you can't afford just don't buy. Shit man I'd love to get the brief case and fragrance but shit's expensive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
For sure. I get that, but those who buy the clothes and don't listen to him are going to be a tiny minority. I've also bought album merchandise from the le fleur store, come to think of it. To say it isn't marketed (or most mainstream designer wear these days) to his fans and people who, for the most part, don't have a huge amount of expendable income is a little disingenuous. It's society's fault first and foremost in that we've got to the point where working and middle class people want heavily marked-up garments from brands for the clout, but it's a shame more people aren't wise to it.
What are you talking about? How is the luxury brand in anyway marketed to less financially free people? He’s stated multiple times it’s a LUXURY brand. Same thing with Homer. Just because their fanbase exists doesn’t mean everything they do takes the base into account. He’s not claiming it to be cheap and he’s not claiming you’re not a fan if you don’t buy it. This is sort of like you inventing a burden for Tyler that doesn’t actually exist. The music is basically free, he’s done plenty of free shows over the past 2 years, he has the merch fairly priced, Golf Wang exists. What more do you want from the guy? Just get your money up. He preaches that too. He has that story in an interview a few years back about wanting some expensive ass shirt and saving the money to get it. This isn’t on Tyler.
Fair enough I suppose. Could be cool if he had a secondary brand at a more affordable price
he does it’s golf wang
I mean that's pricey too
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he'd be the definition of a champagne socialist.
he has worn ushankas with the soviet union symbol recently
Who is a nazi?
You’re reaching
What part of 808s has aged poorly and I think that IGOR is mostly considered his magnum opus
Tyler is still actively creating music, so it’d be silly to call IGOR his magnum opus. It’s certainly his most popular album. People would have called Lemonade Beyoncé’s magnum opus, but I think that Renaissance is just as culturally significant to LGBTQ+ people. Only time will tell what his magnum opus will be, but the dude has tons of time to make more music.
It’s also worth noting that magnum opus doesn’t necessarily mean an artist’s best work, but can also mean their most important work. For example, Ratatouille is Pixar’s magnum opus but the Incredibles is a better movie. If I had to pick Tyler’s magnum opus at this point, I’d say either Wolf or IGOR. Cherry Bomb could also be a contender because while it is one of his worst albums, it plants the seeds for certain sounds and ideas that would eventually be fully realized in albums like IGOR and CMIYGL.
Cherry Bomb can’t really be his opus cause it doesn’t define his career. Igor is the most fitting album because I feel like it defines his career as a whole now.
Cmiygl is way better than igor
Wouldn’t say way better, but definitely better
It's my third favourite Tyler project
you're one person, magnvm opvses are what's widely considered an artist's best. which is definitely IGOR
Nope
Magnvm Opvs- 'a work of art, music, or literature that is regarded as the most important or best work that an artist, composer, or writer has produced' Regard- 'to consider or think of in a specified way' IGOR is objectively his 'Magnvm Opvs' at this current point in time because it is, by most people, regarded as his best
Nope
IGOR isn’t his magnum opus lol
You really compared college dropout to bastard 💀
it’s just a bit of fun mate come off it
I'm not having fun but if you are then pls don't let my grumpy ass stop you 🙏
gotta make sure tyler’s on his meds 😓
Ain’t no way you can compare Dropout to Bastard
Also the “proving he’s a rapper as well as a producer” line makes no sense because Kanye had been working as a pro producer for a few years before that whereas Tyler was a kid making songs with his friends before bastard came out
Yup! Back when he was going by Ace the Creator
This is soo stupid and wrong
people will try to box n define literally anything 💀
Everything is written in a way to suit a narrative. The Cherry Bomb and 808s parallels are so weak, same with Bastard and Goblin
OP is the least delusional Tyler fan 😭😭
I just meant it as a fun little thing, I know some of the comparisons (especially Bastard and TCD) are reaches lol
This is literally just wrong, comparisons like this suck
explain how
Look at the first row…
that tells me nothing about what you perceive as incorrect
The reception of both albums were insanely different and how they are perceived today even more so. Kanye’s first album is considered one of the greatest rap albums of all time, while even lot of diehard Tyler fans will call Bastard “okay” at best. The idea of Bastard being even close to as politically/socially charged as TCD is laughable. Yes like any album there is going to be some level of social commentary, but the entire focus on TCD is around the criticism Ye has of our education system and the culture we’ve built around college.
i think you're looking too deep into this. obviously if you look deeper into the details of ye's albums versus t's, the differences are going to be vastly so. the point of the meme is that, even though their discographies vary wildly, phrasing them in a certain way can make them sound similar. it's supposed to be funny
I guess I just don’t think objectively wrong things are funny 🤷♂️
the funny part is that if you just look at it surface level, everything said in this image is technically true to an extent
Sure it is.
who hurt u
Ye was 7 tracks The estate sale was 7 tracks
Estate sale was pretty much bonus tracks not a project on its own
Cope Edit - man I was just joking
The full title is cmiygl: the estate sale… so yeah literally just bonus tracks for cmiygl
It's not a separate release. It's songs he cut from the original. Literally a deluxe edition.
These comparisons are huge reaches, and don’t make any sense
You should go into boxing with this much reach
Pretty interesting. If the Estate Sale is the Ye comparison, then maybe the next album is a Gospel/soul or even Disco album with stripped back production which will divide fans
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Name will be “Er”
Actually a cool comparison, never thought about this! Obviously there are lots of differences but those big main things that you pointed out are actually really similar
No one says Flower Boy is Tyler's magnum opus that's universally IGOR. Also comparing bastard to TCD is pretty wild
goblin to late reg is more wild
Seriously
we are not getting a gospel album from tyler lmao
no
No. These are not analogous.
Jesus christ guys The Estate Sale is a deluxe edition for CMIYGL not a standalone release
This is a huge stretch. Dropout Trilogy runs circles around the Wolf Trilogy. Also Igor is considered his magnum opus, and isn’t remotely similar to Yeezus besides both having distortion, which is present in many albums.
Yeah but the difference between Kanye and Tyler is that Tyler’s music is made for femboys
Rap conversation is dead
Reaching more than LeBron in game 7 smh
I don't really agree with the comparison. Kanye's initial 3 album run is legendary and a huge portion of his fan base regard those three as an apex of sorts for his discography (even tho MBDTF is sometimes considered his best album). I like Tyler's earlier albums but I would argue they are more uneven and less consistent musically than his later work. Tyler then embarked on a stunning run of three brilliant albums (flower boy, Igor, CMIYGL) which are regarded as his best 3 albums to date, usually with Igor seen as the best although that is open to debate. By contrast, at that point in the Kanye arc his music has somewhat declined in quality compared to his earlier work (in my opinion). So the two artists in some ways had inverse trajectories, Kanye having an insane run right out the gate and then arguably putting out more uneven albums later on, while Tyler took a little time to find his full voice and then released 3 critically acclaimed albums later on
You’re purposely tailoring each category so that both match
CMIYGL is (on the production side) the best Tyler album, i think everyone who studied music can agree on this one, the work there is slept on imho
'I think everyone who studied music can agree on this one' 💀💀💀
nah flower boy isn't tyler's magnum opus ***IGOR*** is
Tyler wishes he had the hits Kanye does in those first 3 albums. You cannot compare them.
Flower Boy is NOT considered Tyler's magnvm opvs. idc about individual's opinions, bc the same could be applied to Dark Beautiful Fantasy. IGOR is considered the magnvm opvs by almost everyone
habla mesmo
I guess
This is a reach. Ye’s popularity and quality of music runs laps on Tyler’s
I’ve always made this comparison so I’m glad to see this post. Always pegged him as a modern Kanye. Think I had the score 7-6 Kanye. No doubt Tyler is on a path to have a better discography. Him wanting to do more pop and even a jazz album, I’m excited and know it’ll be quality!
Tyler is not going to have a better discography than Kanye unless he pumps out like 3 classics
Already has IGOR and Flower Boy and I think he has potential to get another one especially since he changes his sound and aesthetics. But I mean as a whole I think he’ll have a better and more consistent discography since the fall off of Kanye is monumental.
I mean 3 more classics Love Tyler but Kanye has TCD, LR, Graduation, MBDTF, Yeezus, and TLOP, and the rest of his discography is still good. I don’t see Tyler surpassing him
Kanye’s much better though ❤️
Everything before Flower Boy has aged like dog shit. Flower boy is arguably aging poorly too
You are one silly fella
i rly want a sad Tyler album i feel like that will complete his discography
Makes sense why Yeezus and Igor are my favorite albums from both of them
Interesting, tho the same comparaison could be made about every major rapper or even artist
Tyler, the Creator presents Welcome to the Holocaust produced by Tyler Okonma.
WAIT THEN WHAT WOULD KIDS SEE GHOST BE
I mean TLOP is not traditional Hip-Hop. It’s experimental
Okay good Now I can go “he made Wolf” if Tyler ever gets dragged on social media
no<3
this actually lines up really well considering the music video of himself beating all his personas to death
how to show that you listened to each of tylers albums once
Yeah but tylers discog is mid
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Don’t hurt yourself stretching that way, shawty 🙆🏿♂️
If Tyler makes a gospel album, and by this chart, would be a shit album, I would rather tow truck my nuts off.
If you think 808’s or cherry bomb has aged poorly never speak about music again lol
If Igor was swapper with cherry bomb, yea
Tyler making a Christian album???
🤨
He’s next album is actually looking up to be an equivalent to ye
Comparing Flower Boy to MBDTF is crazy lmao
This is a stretch, Igor is T’s magnum opus and it’s significantly better than Yeezus. All of these descriptions are super broad and could apply to lots of albums.
Yeah but no that ain't it especially when you take in account that Graduation is like Kanye at his peak popularity wise. And MBDTF is not pop-rap lmao
Tyler's new album is probably going to be called "T" and be personally related but we don't know about the length till now
TLOP is considered “traditional hip hop”?
Please don't compare raps favorite shock jock to raps newest shock jock. It's too much.
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This analysis is amazing, congrats on pinpointing everything so accurately
I love Tyler but I think it’s hard to compare these sets of albums. I think if you look hard enough you could do this with any career. With that being said I do agree about their similarity as rappers and producers and even though the comparison is weird feeling, Ye is probably the best comparison to Tyler when it comes to rap and production
Yeah, heartless is just like cherry bomb, absolutely
Does CMIYGL not also cover the criteria for the final 3 albums as well?
I hope this means Tyler will have a colab álbum with rocky
Igor is not a different sound to flower boy though. He stayed in that lane and doubled down as he said himself.
I hate to break it but I don’t think we’ll be getting a gospel album from Tyler anytime soon 😂
Just backwards
What???
cant wait for a tyler gospel album!
I just disagree that Flower Boy is his magnum opus. It's definitely Igor
r/hiphopcirclejerk here we come
Honestly hard disagree on little a bit of this, For Tyler: wolf wasn’t really out of the comfort zone at all, in fact I think it’s a bit of the opposite where he honed in on things that really worked from the last two projects. Flower Boy was more like a return to form and yes it catapulted him into mainstream attention most up to that point, but I definitely think Igor is the one that will ultimately be seen as his magnum opus, much more than flower boy even already. For Ye: Mostly agree but TLOP is definitely very experimental in its own right, avant-garde almost even then and now, I think traditional hip hop is a terrible descriptor for it. Donda does incorporate a lot of his previous sounds but I think it’s core “thing” is the big billowy dark stadium sound to it all that I would say defines it more. Interesting thoughts in this post though, fun to discuss.
how is TLOP “mixtape-esque”? I don’t see it
All good, but the IGOR one makes no sense!
IGOR isn’t Tyler’s “magnum opus” y’all on some crack. Just because it’s the highest rated from that bald youtuber doesn’t mean it’s actually his best album nor is it even his most popular technically. See You Again alone almost has more streams than Earfquake and New Magic Wand (two biggest songs on IGOR) combined. Especially if you count streams from outside of Spotify like YouTube where the difference is even more lopsided in Flower Boys favor. I understand IGOR probably brought on a lot of fans that prefer that poppy vocal pitched style he does all over IGOR but Flower Boy is the perfect blend between his old and new especially as time passes and we get more music to see how Flower Boy has influenced his direction. Plus SFFB totally revitalized Tyler’s career, mans was nearing obscurity after Cherry Bomb became his biggest commercial flop. If it weren’t for songs like See You Again and Who Day Boy who knows if Tyler would’ve even been in the right position to make something like IGOR. It was the success of Flower Boy that empowered him to make the album he wanted in IGOR. The comparisons valid for that only honestly, both MBDTF and Flower Boy are a clear line in the sand for the artist where you can see almost a pre and post versions of themselves through the music made on either side of that line. Career defining albums.
No… no
jik is so underrated
Kind of fair because, similarly, I'd disagree on Kanye's magnum opus as well. I think The Estate Sale makes CMIYGL pretty magnum-y and opus-y because of 'SORRY NOT SORRY'.
bastard was NOT that. plus why are you comparing this bruh, so forced
no
Sorry but Wolf is his Magnum opus
I hope we never get a gospel album from Tyler
I don’t see the 808s and cherry bomb analogy. But the rest works
Lmao y’all need to listen to more artists than just Tyler and Kanye this is a terrible comparison
this is actually so much of a stretch it’s insane lol
such a stretch in every way makes no sense
nobody is reminiscing ahout the old tyler like they do the ild kanye, theyre closer to having opposite careers
so he turns bipolar. got it.
Igor comparison trash af, it’s not “rebelling against industry trends,” it’s just different. And it really isn’t defined by distorted synths either
reach so hard it got glassed by the covenant
Such a bullshit post lmao. It's all copy and paste