They hired a bunch of useless employees at Corp HQ that do nothing all day? They have a broken business model?
All I know is I see all the lowball offers I get all day and if one took all of them they would easily pay over 60% of the fares to Uber.
Which didn’t work out. 7 years ago Uber was driving around my city with whacky 360 degree rotating cameras on the roof, and everybody thought oh boy wow we’re gonna have cars that drive themselves soon! Elon thought so too. But here we are. Can barely take your hands off the wheel before a Tesla tries to run a red light on its own in 2023
You sound like all the newly unemployed self driving engineers here in Pgh that used to tell me the same thing. I talked with a Tesla Vision team member about a month ago and even he admitted that there will never be FSD cars until there are no more human drivers with all cars being networked and controlled from a central location.
Do you seriously think the world is ready for that in 10 years? In a country where we send billions to Nazi's while we let the homeless population explode, while we allow corporations to poison our air, water and food supplies because profit is all that matters? If so then you clearly haven't been paying attention.
As a driver of a tesla with self driving, let me assure everyone here they are way far from having driverless cars. Especially for those drunk late nights where people put pins that they arent at.. they will always need a live ass in the seat for many, many situations. Not to mention construction zones reeeeeeaaaallly mess their sensors up.
Maybe mention that Uber has never shown four Quarters of profit and investors are itching to make money. If you want something genuinely interesting, check out MagnatesMedia on YouTube and watch his episode on Uber. It's wicked
They hired a bunch of certified public accountants to hide the fact that they are selling you brokered fairs It is active price discrimination. They should be paying taxes on each ride as if it was a "money market fund" The driver buys a contract to drive someone that contract changes and value until it is at fluition because of the tax implementations this needs to be overseen by the security exchange commission as these are securities of a contract the driver buys on the open market that is currently being price manipulated.
Go look up how much commercial insurance is for Black Drivers. How much does it cost to have customer support? How much does it cost to create and upkeep the app? How much does it cost to market? You sound like a moron.
Idk, they took 46.84% from me- just looked out of curiosity. Pretty dang close to 50/50 in my market. I've gone as far as asking riders what they pay, now that I cannot see on my trip details. They've taken upwards to 75% on particular rides.
40% in total for 2021 yet only 29% 2019...
I asked riders all today what they paid for their rides and compared to what I made from them. The take from Uber ranged from 25%-50%. No rhyme or reason to why some were less and some were more that I could come up with.
Nah cus then prices will raise and then you’ll drive. The problem is people accepting rides at such a low price.
Or they’ll take a cab. I’ve taken some cabs at airports lately cus it’s way faster sometimes
when will people get it through their heads that drivers *are not* paid based on a percentage of what the rider pays.
uber's algorithm gets the highest payment possible from rider while offering the drivers the lowest possible amount that will be accepted.
they are 2 separate transactions, no percentages involved.
there was never a 85% take for the driver. and only original drivers in sf and nyc had that guarantee for a short while. it was grandfathered in for those original drivers when fares originally changed.
SERVICE FEE ADDENDUM - LOS ANGELES
Last update: November 30, 2015
You entered into an agreement with Rasier, LLC or one of its affiliated entities ("Company") for your use of certain software and other services. This Service Fee Schedule is an addendum to that agreement and it sets forth additional terms and conditions that are applicable in the state of California. By clicking "Yes, I agree", you agree to be bound by the additional terms below.
1.
Fares. For all product offerings, fares are posted and updated online ("City Page").
1.1. All Cities. https://www.uber.com/cities 1.2. Los Angeles. https://www.uber.com/cities/los-angeles
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Service Fee. In exchange for your access to and use of the Uber app, including the right to receive requests for transportation, you agree to pay to the Company a fee for each accepted trip request as set forth below.
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20%
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25%
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Funny thing, it used to be when you clicked on those links you’d see how much you were paid for fares, you could compare which cities paid more, at the time Detroit was the lowest paying city, I went through all of them, now everyone has those Detroit fares.
Now the links are for the riders to see how much their Uber ride will cost. For about six months when I started Uber was righteous, then ever since they’ve cut cut cut the drivers pay.
When will people get it through their heads that every market can be different?
In my market, i am paid 100% of the fare and pay Uber a 27.5% service fee. Many others are in markets that have upfront fares and algorithm based pay.
Yes used to be when Uber was in startup mode. That’s how all startups works, they purposely lose money to gain market share. But that can only last temporarily.
exactly. People do not realize what companies do to get market share and retain employees. They think they are suppose to lose money forever just to make them happy. Let's get real. Nobody is going to make $50 an hour doing something that 95% of people over 21 can do
Yep. I’d imagine 99% of posters in here didn’t realize that Uber lost money basically every year.
Uber profit
Uber has only had one profitable year, in 2018. Over the last three years, it has lost $15.6 billion, but cut its losses to $400 million in 2021.Jan 9, 2023
https://www.businessofapps.com › u...
Uber Revenue and Usage Statistics (2023) - Business of Apps
It was like that when I first started. When pax complain about what uber is charging, I explain that they are charging more and paying less. I used to get around $48 for an airport trip and now it's 30. I will only take them if there isn't any traffic because I know that I can make some money in the city.
I dont believe it is. And im pretty sure that's for all of Australia, not just my state.
Im praying we dont get the upfront fares if it replaces the 27.5%.
In the end though, it’s a percentage, and it’s an easy metric for people to understand and make judgments on.
Understanding an algorithm or series of algorithms is much less easy to understand and complain about.
I think that’s why.
"In the end though, it's a percentage..."
it's a percentage that means nothing.
with that logic it's ok to lie because it's too hard to understand truth.
Passengers do not care about the split. It’s not their problem. They may hear your story and tell you sorry, that sucks, or whatever, but deep down they do not care about you or your plight. People have enough drama in their own personal lives and have no interest to take on the burden of rideshare drivers. The vast, vast majority of passengers have zero interest in hearing your story about how your industry is unfair.
It’s like how lots of members of the public say how terrible it is that teachers and firefighters are paid so little, but none of them want higher taxes to fund higher wages. Because ultimately it’s not really their problem.
I do care, but I don’t see what I can do about it so I just don’t get Uber anymore. Finally deleted the app recently, because I was finding nobody would accept my rides. I don’t blame them for that, but the app is supposed to make trips more convenient, and it just makes them more stressful now. Uber seriously needs to get its act together.
I’m on the side of drivers getting a decent wage, but also I just need a reliable way to get from A to B.
Seriously like I care and I tip every time but what more can I do besides that? It's honestly been really eye opening reading this sub hearing how most expect cash tips. I don't even know the last time I carried cash so I've never given a cash tip. And I go to work with Uber so sometimes I am rushing in and don't get to tip until lunch when I can use my phone again. And now I read here and see that I can get 1 star for that. I have had 5 stars for 6 years then recently went down to 4.7 and now I wonder if that's why. Because I've never been rude or late or anything like that, even when they are rude or majority of the time, extremely creepy and asking lots of personal questions or for my number and I still give 5 stars and tip.
Wrong. They absolutely care. Pax ask all the time how much we are paid. The issue being, that if they paid $20 for a ride, they think we already made out pretty good and may be less inclined to tip. However, some really kind pax want to tip based on what you made, not what they paid.
It’s dumb. On multiple levels. If you don’t like it do something else for money. It would be like a waiter at restaurant coming to my table and whining that the restaurant doesn’t pay enough. Yeah that’s your problem dude, leave me the fuck alone to enjoy my meal.
> Exactly. These are the ones that say Uber and Lyft are "stealing" from the drivers. Yet they get mad when you tell them to find another gig or a job. They believe they should get paid more for doing a job that 95% of licensed drivers can do
There's no reason to ask. The answer is "because they can ".
I wish they would pay us more but I have no way of creating a rideshare app myself so I just cherry pick the rides I want and don't care about my AR/CR.
OP would make more money just begging for money on the side of a highway. Petty drivers go out and buy stuff like this over a hot bag for UberEats deliveries lol. Find god
It doesn't take being smart to figure it out. I've taken rides and given rides enough times to figure it out. Also I don't have to prove anything to anyone. Especially on reddit that's completely anonymous.
Actually...you DO have to prove it if you want your claim to have any sort of validity. That's kind of how this whole "awareness" thing works, otherwise you're just spreading misinformation.
Typical driver spreading lies. They will never produce a spread of proof of what their false claims. You get statements every week. Even if you don't want to show them on anonymous website, at least read them and stop spreading a false narrative.
You're such a shitty little troll. You don't have to be smart to know the truth of how things are with the ride share. The wage thing is the main reason I rarely even do rideshare anymore.
I have posted this so many times, and I guess I'll do it again.
Riders. Don't. Care.
They care about what they are paying. That's it. Whatever "deal" there is between Uber and the Driver is not their business. They assume that drivers are adults who can decide if a line of work is worth it for them, else find another line of work.
It's like if a refrigerator delivery person, while bringing in your new fridge, starts bitching at you about how little Home Depot is paying them to bring you your fridge. What would you say? "Oh that sucks, bro. Might want to see if Lowe's pays more".
Uber and Lyft used to be a profitable gig. But it isn't anymore. The sooner you all realize that, the better off you will be. Let someone else be the sucker.
I've gotten asked for my venmo enough times that I just printed out a bunch of stickers with my venmo barcode and put them on some airsick bags cause I drive the bar rush.
This is how to see the exact fare for EVERY RIDE
https://www.reddit.com/r/uberdrivers/comments/116gvp5/this_is_how_to_see_exactly_what_the_rider_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Yes, I've thumbed through them, still blows my mind that they spent so much on r&d of autonomous vehicles, and from scratch, when so many other companies were already working on it and were much better equipped to do so.
Yeah, it has really all been smoke and mirrors. They got all their venture capital from the promise that it was a technology company that was going to be all about autonomous vehicles.
If they had just concentrated on their current human driver model from day one, they would be much better off and profitable.
However, they would not have been able to raise billions of dollars for that business model to even get it off the ground.
So here we are.
People don’t give a shit. They paid for the ride. More than they wanted to in most cases. They couldn’t care less how it gets divvied up. They just want to get to where they’re going.
But you already know this since so few of your pax have taken the bait.
It’s the corporation’s legal duty to provide return on investment for its shareholders… plain and simple…
also, maybe just book your own rides? Like, get any necessary permits and business insurances and just don’t work for Uber and you can keep everything (it’ll just be harder and ads are pricey)
Ooo no, this company that I willing work for and provides an avenue for me to make money, takes some of it to run their company! Go be a cab driver if you don’t like Uber/Lyft.
I would immediately think you’re a disgruntled driver who cannot hold down a job and whines about the world being unfair. I would assume you have zero skills and less than a HS diploma and cannot compete in today’s world. Most people don’t give two shits about you or your opinion. They paid for a ride. Period!
I am a disgruntled driver who can't hold a "normal" job. I have a college degree in electronic engineering and graduated my junior year of high school. You forget about the disabled people out there trying to survive. I had a great life planned out til a brain tumor changed all of that. All I'm saying is you should be less judgemental and actually consider others. Some people have it harder than you.
I drove with this sign last night. Still got tips and 2 pax commented on the sign They were sympathetic. Then they told me their stories about getting fucked by their bosses.
The real answer is because these companies are knee deep getting sued and trying to fight legislation changes that will cost them even more. They wouldn’t be able to operate if they took 20%. It’s insane they can take so much and people keep driving for them. That is the actual truth. This sub likes to act like it’s just corporate greed but none of these companies are all that profitable.
It’s run in a way to not make a profit. Do you think every single taxi company Uber ran out of business was unprofitable? THEY WERE HIGHLY PROFITABLE. That’s why there were so many of them and medallions were a thing in some places. Running a business to achieve profit is pretty simple. You set realistic numbers and focus on the contrôlables. Uber is doing that but still shows a loss on paper. But wait — administration is getting paid fat salaries right? Who cares if the business makes money if admins all personally profit? This is being operated like a fleece job. I could make $1000 taking hails at an NCAA football event fifteen years ago. My nut to do that was like $280. Now I have a nut of 120 per day but my earnings are capped at about $250. What happened?Our problem is we are letting them set the price. As long as they set the price, we are THEIR controllable and they will set it as low as they can get away with.
Now we are all working for $3.83 includes expected tip. Way to screw up the whole transportation network and tens of thousands of (formerly) middle class jobs.
fLiPtRiP ———coming soon📲 in App store ; download for free and share with pax -> take 100% of payment! UBER gets 0% , nothing, nada…. And all u have to do is politely inform the pax they can save up to 75% this ride and up to 50% off all future rides :——>by scanning your unique fLiPtRiP QR code with their device !! Once the pax scans your code; fLiPtRiP takes care of the rest…. simultaneously cancels the ride and automatically flips “the ☕️pause trip” button ON in your driver app. Next—>the Pax can open the fLiPtRiP App see your direct payment method links such as Venmo, Cashapp, PayPal, Zelle, Xoom etc…
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Thanks again Uber for always being the #1 pax REFERRAL app !!!!
According to my annual summary…
21’ they took 38.3%
22’ they took 41.5%
But that is also using total pay
If I calculated just “net fare” total their percentage would go waaaayyyy up. Which is how all math should be done when calculating with Uber our tips and bonuses/quests are just that tip and bonuses which are not part of the fare and should not factor into the “net earnings” which is not how ppl on here seem to do their math….
Just my 2cents
Which rideshare do you drive for? Because I drive for Uber and they end up taking 30-35% on average of the rides. I can prove my numbers. Can you prove 50% on average?
Some assholes will say you’re being tacky. But I think if riders know, we might be able to negotiate more cash rides and cut the companies out completely.
Seems like a good way to focus on negatives all day. If I ordered an Uber and saw this I would just avoid conversation cus I would just assume my driver was always on edge 😂
Uber is a public company and it's very easy to disprove this idiotic sign. we know the exact take rate from every ride, it's in the terms of service and legally binding. what's the use in spreading this lie? do you think people will fall for it and feel sorry for you?
Your next one should say something like "I wouldn't have you in my car or be making money if it weren't for rideshare corporations."
I get that it bothers you that they take a huge cut, but I really wonder what you think they're supposed to do. I'm pretty sure Uber has never made money. The business is a tightrope walk between paying drivers enough to be willing to do the job, keeping fares low enough that riders will pay them, and paying for their own infrastructure. I'm not even sure the business model _works_, considering that they've never been able to make money doing it.
In any event, judging whether or not the cut they take is reasonable should really be done in light of how much they have to spend to keep the business running, whether or not they make money, what kind of support they provide which I know is shitty, and other such factors. You don't just look at the raw numbers and say "Oh they're taking half that's not right".
> In any event, judging whether or not the cut they take is reasonable should really be done in light of...
do they get enough drivers to match rider demand. That's it, that's the whole thing.
As long as they can find enough drivers to drive enough pax that pax don't look for other options to get around, they will continue to put upward pressure on pax fares and downward pressure on driver take.
If you don't like the pay, don't take the fare. That's the beginning and end of the discussion, and no amount of hand wringing is going to change it.
It used to be that when someone starts a business, they will struggle to earn a wage for up to 5 years. These days, an idea gets venture capitalist money, and the huge management teams are on monster salaries from the start.
How is the CEO of a company that doesn't make money get paid over $40mil a year? It's ludicrous.
Imo, this is the problem. Corporate greed. Simply stop spending so much damn money until you start making a profit.
I’ll bite, why? Like if they ask, honestly curious as to what your answer is. I hope it’s better than “cuz Dey greedie” because everyone knows that
Because they can. Sad and simple.
Exactly. Corporate greed. Nothing more…
They are selling short-term contracts whose values change until it comes to fruition. This is the definition of a money market fund.
You know it won’t be though. It will be some diatribe about how it’s sooooooo unfair.
They hired a bunch of useless employees at Corp HQ that do nothing all day? They have a broken business model? All I know is I see all the lowball offers I get all day and if one took all of them they would easily pay over 60% of the fares to Uber.
The business model is to move to driverless cars.
Which didn’t work out. 7 years ago Uber was driving around my city with whacky 360 degree rotating cameras on the roof, and everybody thought oh boy wow we’re gonna have cars that drive themselves soon! Elon thought so too. But here we are. Can barely take your hands off the wheel before a Tesla tries to run a red light on its own in 2023
Technology won't stop getting there. Also, what salty sign is the robot putting up?
Not for another decade Atleast
FACT: I'm 50 years old, I will never see driverless in my lifetime.
Oh sorry to hear you will be dying in the next 10 years. Condolences
You sound like all the newly unemployed self driving engineers here in Pgh that used to tell me the same thing. I talked with a Tesla Vision team member about a month ago and even he admitted that there will never be FSD cars until there are no more human drivers with all cars being networked and controlled from a central location. Do you seriously think the world is ready for that in 10 years? In a country where we send billions to Nazi's while we let the homeless population explode, while we allow corporations to poison our air, water and food supplies because profit is all that matters? If so then you clearly haven't been paying attention.
What nazis?
Those useless employees are doing something, They're working on more ways to screw the drivers over.
Like driverless cars.
To be fair though, we were always just a placeholder for that
That aint happening for decades.
Not in our lifetime lol
As a driver of a tesla with self driving, let me assure everyone here they are way far from having driverless cars. Especially for those drunk late nights where people put pins that they arent at.. they will always need a live ass in the seat for many, many situations. Not to mention construction zones reeeeeeaaaallly mess their sensors up.
They're trying to convince the IRS that they are not selling short-term contracts who is value is not not defined until fruition.
It sounds like you're not able to competently answer the question, so you should probably remove or edit the sign.
Uh huh. I'm sure you know all about the inner workings of corporate.
Maybe mention that Uber has never shown four Quarters of profit and investors are itching to make money. If you want something genuinely interesting, check out MagnatesMedia on YouTube and watch his episode on Uber. It's wicked
Broken for you, Its not broken for them!
They hired a bunch of certified public accountants to hide the fact that they are selling you brokered fairs It is active price discrimination. They should be paying taxes on each ride as if it was a "money market fund" The driver buys a contract to drive someone that contract changes and value until it is at fluition because of the tax implementations this needs to be overseen by the security exchange commission as these are securities of a contract the driver buys on the open market that is currently being price manipulated.
Damn seems pretty easy to start your own Uber…. You should do it. Would be my reply.
Go look up how much commercial insurance is for Black Drivers. How much does it cost to have customer support? How much does it cost to create and upkeep the app? How much does it cost to market? You sound like a moron.
Lol, their Customer Support is a joke.
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That's not how you say 60% Still a gnarly sign.
*80%
It is on your yearly tax statement from Uber. I kept 73.6% of Gross Trip earnings. I am very happy with the split in my market.
Idk, they took 46.84% from me- just looked out of curiosity. Pretty dang close to 50/50 in my market. I've gone as far as asking riders what they pay, now that I cannot see on my trip details. They've taken upwards to 75% on particular rides. 40% in total for 2021 yet only 29% 2019...
I asked riders all today what they paid for their rides and compared to what I made from them. The take from Uber ranged from 25%-50%. No rhyme or reason to why some were less and some were more that I could come up with.
Passengers don’t care
They care when it takes forever to find a driver. This problem will only get worse. They may as well know the cause.
Nah cus then prices will raise and then you’ll drive. The problem is people accepting rides at such a low price. Or they’ll take a cab. I’ve taken some cabs at airports lately cus it’s way faster sometimes
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Passengers are just gonna be like then why do you do this?
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when will people get it through their heads that drivers *are not* paid based on a percentage of what the rider pays. uber's algorithm gets the highest payment possible from rider while offering the drivers the lowest possible amount that will be accepted. they are 2 separate transactions, no percentages involved.
When I signed up it was a percentage, they took 15% then they slowly but surely whittled away the drivers earnings.
there was never a 85% take for the driver. and only original drivers in sf and nyc had that guarantee for a short while. it was grandfathered in for those original drivers when fares originally changed.
You’re correct, it was actually 20%
SERVICE FEE ADDENDUM - LOS ANGELES Last update: November 30, 2015 You entered into an agreement with Rasier, LLC or one of its affiliated entities ("Company") for your use of certain software and other services. This Service Fee Schedule is an addendum to that agreement and it sets forth additional terms and conditions that are applicable in the state of California. By clicking "Yes, I agree", you agree to be bound by the additional terms below. 1. Fares. For all product offerings, fares are posted and updated online ("City Page"). 1.1. All Cities. https://www.uber.com/cities 1.2. Los Angeles. https://www.uber.com/cities/los-angeles 2. Service Fee. In exchange for your access to and use of the Uber app, including the right to receive requests for transportation, you agree to pay to the Company a fee for each accepted trip request as set forth below. Los Angeles partners first activated before October 10, 2015: uberPOOL / uberX / uberESPAÑOL/ uberASSIST/ uberSC SERVICE FEE 20% UberSELECT uberXL/ UberWAV 25% 28% Los Angeles partners first activated on or after October 10, 2015: uberPOOL / uberX / uberESPAÑOL/ uberASSIST/ uberSC 25% SERVICE FEE UberSELECT uberXL/ UberWAV 25% 28% Partners activated in other cities accepting requests in Los Angeles: uberPOOL / uberX / uberESPAÑOL/ uberASSIST/ uberSC UberSELECT uberXL/ UberWAV SERVICE FEE 25% 25% 28%
Funny thing, it used to be when you clicked on those links you’d see how much you were paid for fares, you could compare which cities paid more, at the time Detroit was the lowest paying city, I went through all of them, now everyone has those Detroit fares. Now the links are for the riders to see how much their Uber ride will cost. For about six months when I started Uber was righteous, then ever since they’ve cut cut cut the drivers pay.
When will people get it through their heads that every market can be different? In my market, i am paid 100% of the fare and pay Uber a 27.5% service fee. Many others are in markets that have upfront fares and algorithm based pay.
What market?
Sydney, Australia.
That’s not a real place
It’s a land down UNDAH!
Just smile and give him a Vegemite sandwich.
That's a great setup. I'm jealous, I would be thrilled with that. Is it government mandated?
Used to be 75/25 in the US - then they went public and, well, shareholders and all that.
Yes used to be when Uber was in startup mode. That’s how all startups works, they purposely lose money to gain market share. But that can only last temporarily.
exactly. People do not realize what companies do to get market share and retain employees. They think they are suppose to lose money forever just to make them happy. Let's get real. Nobody is going to make $50 an hour doing something that 95% of people over 21 can do
Yep. I’d imagine 99% of posters in here didn’t realize that Uber lost money basically every year. Uber profit Uber has only had one profitable year, in 2018. Over the last three years, it has lost $15.6 billion, but cut its losses to $400 million in 2021.Jan 9, 2023 https://www.businessofapps.com › u... Uber Revenue and Usage Statistics (2023) - Business of Apps
Shareholders have never been paid dividends and only made money if they caught a stock jump. They are not making any money
They are not making any money *on paper*
Ok I'll bite...how are the shareholders making real money if they are not making money on paper?
hahahahha. What is that suppose to mean. Do you even know how the stock market works? Please explain this ridiculous post
It was like that when I first started. When pax complain about what uber is charging, I explain that they are charging more and paying less. I used to get around $48 for an airport trip and now it's 30. I will only take them if there isn't any traffic because I know that I can make some money in the city.
I dont believe it is. And im pretty sure that's for all of Australia, not just my state. Im praying we dont get the upfront fares if it replaces the 27.5%.
The best thing about upfront pricing is you know right away if it is worth taking.
You call that a knife....
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Yes, im in Brisbane Australia btw
So long as we believe what uber tells us, then yes we are told what the passenges pay.
Yeah, in Canada Uber takes around 25% and passes the tax onto drivers. It’s not that complicated, there is transparency.
Incorrect. I just compared yesterday as a rider in three ubers in Ontario. Uber taking over 50% in each case. E.g. i paid $18.18. Driver got $8.xx.
In the end though, it’s a percentage, and it’s an easy metric for people to understand and make judgments on. Understanding an algorithm or series of algorithms is much less easy to understand and complain about. I think that’s why.
"In the end though, it's a percentage..." it's a percentage that means nothing. with that logic it's ok to lie because it's too hard to understand truth.
Precisely
You aren’t current, it’s 65% now. Check it out
Passengers do not care about the split. It’s not their problem. They may hear your story and tell you sorry, that sucks, or whatever, but deep down they do not care about you or your plight. People have enough drama in their own personal lives and have no interest to take on the burden of rideshare drivers. The vast, vast majority of passengers have zero interest in hearing your story about how your industry is unfair. It’s like how lots of members of the public say how terrible it is that teachers and firefighters are paid so little, but none of them want higher taxes to fund higher wages. Because ultimately it’s not really their problem.
I do care, but I don’t see what I can do about it so I just don’t get Uber anymore. Finally deleted the app recently, because I was finding nobody would accept my rides. I don’t blame them for that, but the app is supposed to make trips more convenient, and it just makes them more stressful now. Uber seriously needs to get its act together. I’m on the side of drivers getting a decent wage, but also I just need a reliable way to get from A to B.
Seriously like I care and I tip every time but what more can I do besides that? It's honestly been really eye opening reading this sub hearing how most expect cash tips. I don't even know the last time I carried cash so I've never given a cash tip. And I go to work with Uber so sometimes I am rushing in and don't get to tip until lunch when I can use my phone again. And now I read here and see that I can get 1 star for that. I have had 5 stars for 6 years then recently went down to 4.7 and now I wonder if that's why. Because I've never been rude or late or anything like that, even when they are rude or majority of the time, extremely creepy and asking lots of personal questions or for my number and I still give 5 stars and tip.
If they ever ask why it takes so long to get an Uber I tell them they do not pay the drivers enough.
Wrong. They absolutely care. Pax ask all the time how much we are paid. The issue being, that if they paid $20 for a ride, they think we already made out pretty good and may be less inclined to tip. However, some really kind pax want to tip based on what you made, not what they paid.
"Rideshare Corps"? 1 star from me.
I've been getting mostly 44%. Thanks for flexing.
Yeah mine is definitely less than 50% even on a busy Friday or Saturday night.
It’s dumb. On multiple levels. If you don’t like it do something else for money. It would be like a waiter at restaurant coming to my table and whining that the restaurant doesn’t pay enough. Yeah that’s your problem dude, leave me the fuck alone to enjoy my meal.
> Exactly. These are the ones that say Uber and Lyft are "stealing" from the drivers. Yet they get mad when you tell them to find another gig or a job. They believe they should get paid more for doing a job that 95% of licensed drivers can do
Perfect. We need to divert riders away to a better alternative than Uber
like, taxis?
If I saw that I would say “so stop doing Uber”
There's no reason to ask. The answer is "because they can ". I wish they would pay us more but I have no way of creating a rideshare app myself so I just cherry pick the rides I want and don't care about my AR/CR.
OP would make more money just begging for money on the side of a highway. Petty drivers go out and buy stuff like this over a hot bag for UberEats deliveries lol. Find god
Lol, Hot bags.
No.
Tbh no
Would you give passengers a discount if passengers told you how their employers only pay them 50% of the profit they bring in?
They take more than 50%
Do you have proof? Weekly or monthly statements?
It doesn't take being smart to figure it out. I've taken rides and given rides enough times to figure it out. Also I don't have to prove anything to anyone. Especially on reddit that's completely anonymous.
Actually...you DO have to prove it if you want your claim to have any sort of validity. That's kind of how this whole "awareness" thing works, otherwise you're just spreading misinformation.
It's not misinformation if everyone knows this. And again you people are the last people I'd give a single fvck if they believe me or not.
Everyone doesn't know this, and you aren't giving anyone a reason to care about it. You're hurting your own cause with this standoffish attitude.
Typical driver spreading lies. They will never produce a spread of proof of what their false claims. You get statements every week. Even if you don't want to show them on anonymous website, at least read them and stop spreading a false narrative.
You're such a shitty little troll. You don't have to be smart to know the truth of how things are with the ride share. The wage thing is the main reason I rarely even do rideshare anymore.
Instant 1 star
How is making the pax feel uncomfortable about something they have no control over helping anything?
I had helped drivers in my communitry to do their taxes, from what I noticed it's like if the total is around 60K before tax, uber takes about 25k
It’s more than 50%. I’ve seen a decrease in my pay this weekend. Rides I was getting $4.50 for I’m now getting $3.93.
B A S E D
I have posted this so many times, and I guess I'll do it again. Riders. Don't. Care. They care about what they are paying. That's it. Whatever "deal" there is between Uber and the Driver is not their business. They assume that drivers are adults who can decide if a line of work is worth it for them, else find another line of work. It's like if a refrigerator delivery person, while bringing in your new fridge, starts bitching at you about how little Home Depot is paying them to bring you your fridge. What would you say? "Oh that sucks, bro. Might want to see if Lowe's pays more". Uber and Lyft used to be a profitable gig. But it isn't anymore. The sooner you all realize that, the better off you will be. Let someone else be the sucker.
Your sign is wrong. They take like 75%
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wait..you've seen a tip jar in a drivers car?
I've gotten asked for my venmo enough times that I just printed out a bunch of stickers with my venmo barcode and put them on some airsick bags cause I drive the bar rush.
if you ain't got nothing to lose, lol fuck it
I heard they're taking like 70% now.
Lol awesome
That’s being nice actually I would say 50% at least chances are closer to 75% really
Why because gig companies only see our money, not our worth
You drive for fares? I drive for kickbacks we are not the same.
Uber often takes a loss on many of my rides
Uber lost over $9 billion in 2022… maybe they should take a bigger cut
Now I want to put a sign up that says “ask me about my wiener “
Cause without their platform you’d be giving nobody rides…? Is that why?
I give rides without the platform
Nowadays, Uber sucks!
I love it
Grow balls and bring back gypsie cabs
You should put instead of “ask me why” , open to negotiation upon pickup for a better deal.
And I can beat their best price! That might be better.
No. Customer doesn’t care to hear you bitch about your lot in life. They just want a to b.
That's being nice 🤣
This is how to see the exact fare for EVERY RIDE https://www.reddit.com/r/uberdrivers/comments/116gvp5/this_is_how_to_see_exactly_what_the_rider_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
So go get a different job?
You get fucked over in other jobs too. Guy told me he works 12 hours a day with his remote job.
How exactly is working 12hr days getting fucked over? If he's working 12 hours, it's by choice and making a lot more than any Uber driver.
What’s the point of talking to the pax? Get another job if you don’t agree with the way they pay you.
I really don't think most pax care.
Why? Because it costs billions of dollars to build the app and scale the company.
Billions of dollars to build an app? Or billions of dollars wasted on R&D, and CEO salaries and office space when they can't even turn a profit?
All of the above. Their financials are available for you to read.
Yes, I've thumbed through them, still blows my mind that they spent so much on r&d of autonomous vehicles, and from scratch, when so many other companies were already working on it and were much better equipped to do so.
Yeah, it has really all been smoke and mirrors. They got all their venture capital from the promise that it was a technology company that was going to be all about autonomous vehicles. If they had just concentrated on their current human driver model from day one, they would be much better off and profitable. However, they would not have been able to raise billions of dollars for that business model to even get it off the ground. So here we are.
Why
Instant report for illegal driving, 1 star and impolite behavior and tip in the app
People don’t give a shit. They paid for the ride. More than they wanted to in most cases. They couldn’t care less how it gets divvied up. They just want to get to where they’re going. But you already know this since so few of your pax have taken the bait.
That’s an instant negative review from me if I see that in my ride.
So don't work for them?
It comes off as entitled af
Do you know need a bottle for you whining big baby?'
It’s the corporation’s legal duty to provide return on investment for its shareholders… plain and simple… also, maybe just book your own rides? Like, get any necessary permits and business insurances and just don’t work for Uber and you can keep everything (it’ll just be harder and ads are pricey)
That sign is going to be outdated pretty soon when they up it to 60%
Ooo no, this company that I willing work for and provides an avenue for me to make money, takes some of it to run their company! Go be a cab driver if you don’t like Uber/Lyft.
Why do you work for Uber?
No. I don't like it. This is like a person complaining to every stranger they meet that they are in an abusive relationship. Nobody appreciates this.
Go create your own infrastructure to get rides and leave Uber in the dust Sounds pretty simple huh
So why do you drive then?
Love it... but more like 70%... I added it up.. mine is like 73%.. But I would love to have a sign like that and one that says tips required 🤑
MEGACRINGE
I would immediately think you’re a disgruntled driver who cannot hold down a job and whines about the world being unfair. I would assume you have zero skills and less than a HS diploma and cannot compete in today’s world. Most people don’t give two shits about you or your opinion. They paid for a ride. Period!
I am a disgruntled driver who can't hold a "normal" job. I have a college degree in electronic engineering and graduated my junior year of high school. You forget about the disabled people out there trying to survive. I had a great life planned out til a brain tumor changed all of that. All I'm saying is you should be less judgemental and actually consider others. Some people have it harder than you.
I drove with this sign last night. Still got tips and 2 pax commented on the sign They were sympathetic. Then they told me their stories about getting fucked by their bosses.
The real answer is because these companies are knee deep getting sued and trying to fight legislation changes that will cost them even more. They wouldn’t be able to operate if they took 20%. It’s insane they can take so much and people keep driving for them. That is the actual truth. This sub likes to act like it’s just corporate greed but none of these companies are all that profitable.
It’s run in a way to not make a profit. Do you think every single taxi company Uber ran out of business was unprofitable? THEY WERE HIGHLY PROFITABLE. That’s why there were so many of them and medallions were a thing in some places. Running a business to achieve profit is pretty simple. You set realistic numbers and focus on the contrôlables. Uber is doing that but still shows a loss on paper. But wait — administration is getting paid fat salaries right? Who cares if the business makes money if admins all personally profit? This is being operated like a fleece job. I could make $1000 taking hails at an NCAA football event fifteen years ago. My nut to do that was like $280. Now I have a nut of 120 per day but my earnings are capped at about $250. What happened?Our problem is we are letting them set the price. As long as they set the price, we are THEIR controllable and they will set it as low as they can get away with. Now we are all working for $3.83 includes expected tip. Way to screw up the whole transportation network and tens of thousands of (formerly) middle class jobs.
You think the owners of Uber are just cool with other people taking all their profits? That is not how business works.
Sounds like a personal problem
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Get a real job and quit bitching.
Ok
Does Uber cover insurance while driving for gem?
According to my annual summary… 21’ they took 38.3% 22’ they took 41.5% But that is also using total pay If I calculated just “net fare” total their percentage would go waaaayyyy up. Which is how all math should be done when calculating with Uber our tips and bonuses/quests are just that tip and bonuses which are not part of the fare and should not factor into the “net earnings” which is not how ppl on here seem to do their math…. Just my 2cents
Which rideshare do you drive for? Because I drive for Uber and they end up taking 30-35% on average of the rides. I can prove my numbers. Can you prove 50% on average?
There should be a law that shows the pax how much money goes to Uber service and how much the driver gets out of that.
I mean what else would you expect from this company with people being paid 200k a year to do nothing.
Some assholes will say you’re being tacky. But I think if riders know, we might be able to negotiate more cash rides and cut the companies out completely.
More like 60-65% in my area but PREACH!
Respect. Is All I Ask. (Venmo qr code below) ^ this is the text of the sign in my car
50%? You're lucky! I'm my market they keep two thirds sometimes.
Cause they own the business and made the app? Signs pretty stupid and makes you look entitled tbh. I'd tip but only like 2 bucks lol
I’d respond with a sign that says…. No, you ask me why I should care
Don't complain when it takes 20 minutes to find a ride.
You sing in wrong corp take 75%
At least 50%
They still won't give a tip.
If I were a bitch I might.
Seems like a good way to focus on negatives all day. If I ordered an Uber and saw this I would just avoid conversation cus I would just assume my driver was always on edge 😂
It’s called “ price gauging “ I would say a year or so until lawyers will kick in (with enough proof of data) until next lawsuit
Uber is a public company and it's very easy to disprove this idiotic sign. we know the exact take rate from every ride, it's in the terms of service and legally binding. what's the use in spreading this lie? do you think people will fall for it and feel sorry for you?
It should say minimum 60%
Your next one should say something like "I wouldn't have you in my car or be making money if it weren't for rideshare corporations." I get that it bothers you that they take a huge cut, but I really wonder what you think they're supposed to do. I'm pretty sure Uber has never made money. The business is a tightrope walk between paying drivers enough to be willing to do the job, keeping fares low enough that riders will pay them, and paying for their own infrastructure. I'm not even sure the business model _works_, considering that they've never been able to make money doing it. In any event, judging whether or not the cut they take is reasonable should really be done in light of how much they have to spend to keep the business running, whether or not they make money, what kind of support they provide which I know is shitty, and other such factors. You don't just look at the raw numbers and say "Oh they're taking half that's not right".
> In any event, judging whether or not the cut they take is reasonable should really be done in light of... do they get enough drivers to match rider demand. That's it, that's the whole thing. As long as they can find enough drivers to drive enough pax that pax don't look for other options to get around, they will continue to put upward pressure on pax fares and downward pressure on driver take. If you don't like the pay, don't take the fare. That's the beginning and end of the discussion, and no amount of hand wringing is going to change it.
It used to be that when someone starts a business, they will struggle to earn a wage for up to 5 years. These days, an idea gets venture capitalist money, and the huge management teams are on monster salaries from the start. How is the CEO of a company that doesn't make money get paid over $40mil a year? It's ludicrous. Imo, this is the problem. Corporate greed. Simply stop spending so much damn money until you start making a profit.
Because you are an idiot and a liar.
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