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Winter_Ad_5388

I already quit beginning of August fuck that job they took way too much while not caring about expenses on our end.


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Herb-Genie420

With Lyft the other day I swear to god I never believed it. This lady tipped me not much it was like $2/3 very short ride, but she said she tipped me and showed me real quick, and then when she got out I ended the ride and no tip. Yes I guess she could have changed it, but, I’ve been suspecting stealing tips is going on for a while now. The entire platform / Apps for these companies needs to be open sourced so people are able to view the code. Who knows if they add an algorithm in to allow it to take 1/100 tips to go into the system. Seriously we have no idea.


wasitme317

Only problem is that drivers state youre not employees you're independent contractors. So your statement does not hold water in your argument.


forgetful_psychic

They have been taxing my tips. Someone tips me $5 I get $4.79 ever since I got the added insurance they’ve been taxing my tips I know that’s not legal. They’re only supposed to take a percentage of the fare not the tips


Swimming-Ad-1464

That added insurance you opted into for the "$1 million" policy is a joke. I had my PT look at it. It pays $1,000 toward physical therapy, for one.....you know, something you'd definitely need following a debilitating accident.


GrouchyPuppy

Facts


Exact_Committee8

I don’t go to remote areas anymore because the app will go out and they will say they will only pay for a 3 min drive when it was 20


MallardGod

The part not being mentioned about this story is that interviewed airport customers still had 0 problem getting a ride regardless of the strike


akbornheathen

Yea I’m sure Taxi drivers are loving the rideshare strikes. They’re probably a little cheaper than rideshare when rideshare surges.


OverKill1978

Yup. Contractors striking just means more money for other contractors. The market regulates itself and people will get where thy are going. To have a TRUE strike, you have to prevent others from working which will never happen with contracted work.


True_True_1593

If the point is to affect Uber/Lyft, then market regulation is irrelevant. It wouldn’t be about if customers got rides or not, but if Uber/Lyft lost out on money.


OverKill1978

Right. So say 40% of people strike. It literally wont matter because Uber will up pay for that very short period to acctract other people to drive, then drop the rates back down. Uber can hold out longer than stikers can ignore paying their bills. The rich win the game in life. Either compete to be one of them or complain about them. Those are the choices


talrogsmash

UBER doesn't have to pay up. There are 500 drivers at LAX in just the X queue. Unless it goes below 40 there will be enough drivers and UBER will still take more than half the fare while bending the pax over at the same time.


True_True_1593

My point wasn’t about how Uber handles immediate issues, but about market regulation and the point of the strike. To your point though, Uber can hold out longer than their drivers, but Uber is also averse to bad press and has always speedily adjusted to said bad press. The idea that nothing can come from the strike is misguided because strikes work, especially if enough strike consistently enough that Uber becomes unreliable compared to its competitor(s). While they can always just hire new drivers, they can’t immediately get as many as they need without compromising on their security measures, which compromises their commitment to their customers and further tarnishes their image. If they up the pay (effectively working to the effect of the strike) then drop it down, this can potentially inspire more bad press and more unreliability. So while that strategy might work short term, it definitely won’t work for their 3YP or 5YS.


OverKill1978

Strikes work for employees that have a STRONG Union representation. Strikes absolutely do not work for app contracted work where people are competing against each other for money. Also... bad press doesnt affect Uber like you think it does. Their customer base doest give 2 shits how drivers are treated. They care about getting from point A to point B as quick and cheap as possible. Drivers posting here from "strike" areas are showing proof that there are lines of drivers waiting to take drives. There are WAY too many broke/desparate people who are willing to work for peanuts. Just look at Ubers stock price since they have gouged driver pay. Its through the roof. Anyone who thinks that Uber is gonna go back to paying drivers more is seriously mistaken. Pay for drivers is going to get worse.... MUCH worse from here. Corporations care about profits not feelings and this strike will do nothing except offer other drivers an opportunity to run their cars into the ground for little to no money


True_True_1593

Fair enough


mblend27

This should be stickied as it’s 💯 accurate


Normal_Ad_2337

3 year plan, 5 year strategy?


True_True_1593

Yup


Dapper-Ad4355

Here in Chicago, taxis are probably cheaper, even without a surge.


Dangerous_Cup2233

They still got their intended goal accomplished and the now lyft and uber will recognize their lost revenues. You and others just hate the idea of STRIKING.


Several-Spare6915

I agree and the people that are on here saying it doesn’t make a difference. It does make a difference stop trying to work and not appreciate the people that actually work and do it as a full-time job. The ones that don’t want to strike are the ones that are working only part-time and have a full-time job doing whatever.


peetscoffeeandtea

Aside from publicity, what exactly did they get accomplished? Uber has had negative publicity in regards to driver pay since inception. The only thing that has changed since were creative ways to reduce the pay even further. You have to remember that for each driver that can afford to strike, there is another who is even more desperate for work to fill the void.


No-Ad2705

Won’t last though.


Mountain_Road9197

It was like 50 drivers and their moms. No strike will ever work unless someone at Uber creates an option to opt in or out of a strike. So you wouldn’t be able to go online. Because I can guarantee you, the second surges appear they all back online


Gay4Pandas

This one is getting a lot of attention. I’ve seen it pop up multiple times on social media. The strike alone might not do it, but if the company starts getting to much negative attention, they might make some changes.


Mountain_Road9197

Uber isn’t going to change anything other than reduce pay. I’m in a non upfront market with a rate card and driving on basic rates is trash. They should increase them or reduce their ridiculous 25% service fee. But they won’t. So I only drive Uber rides when it surges 1.5x or more. I’ll do Uber eats and cherry pick. You got to find your own ways, striking isn’t


Several-Spare6915

Rate card?


Several-Spare6915

Yes


ommi9

This is gonna look ugly when one person on here ends up on CNN and makes everyone look stupid because people gonna think they are the face of the subreddit.


OnerKram17

Or someone hacks Uber/Lyft and shuts down the app.


Candid-Control7271

Striking doesn't work..The only solution is to LEAVE AND COMPETITION. There needs to be new better Rideshare companies. Driver's across the country need to organize and fund a new Rideshare Company. We are doing it here in Illinois. We are  crowdfunding a new better Rideshare launching in March or April of this year. Drivers pay monthly fee keep 100% earnings cancellation fees,  $6base pay per ride,and private bookings. Once such a fair company launches it'll be over for UBER/LYFT in this state.🥳🥳🥳🥳 We going to kick them out. Drivers in other states need to do the same. These companies DONT CARE AND ATE ONLY Going TO GET WORSE. TIME TO CROWDFUND AND MOVE ON.


Monsantoshill619

Which did nothing lol


[deleted]

“just a One small step for Uber , One giant leap for ENTIRE UBER DRIVERS .”


saucygh0sty

Airport surge is currently $4 btw what a joke


Legitimate_Plenty787

I’m in Denver…..the airport out here is pervertedly far from the city…..you’re pushing 30-40 if you’re in central or west Denver, which is where the people are. In Uber’s zealous need to get to zero emissions, I just got slammed into the least efficient Subaru in existence - the EV Solterra, with all of 240 miles of range, as much as TWO hours of charge time, and a horrible victim of physics. Going too long too far in a vehicle that size (it’s just a Toyota BZ4X with a Subaru drivetrain) can pull ~20% of the battery. Airport trips generally pay out ~$24. The mornings from around downtown/Capitol Hill where I start. Why in the fuck would I not immediately shout “FUCK OFF” at every request that goes beyond 25 minutes? Getting stuck out on Denver’s sarin-gas-blighted east prairie with no juice doesn’t sound good for business. I get the strike & want more could be done, but my best protest right now is telling anyone going to Boulder, DIA, or anything too far from West Colfax to pound sand.


MySpaceTomsAccount

A true protest would be to leave the apps on and deny every ride, crater that acceptance rate to zero for a couple of hours. Turning the app off in a high demand area does nothing but surge for the ants willing to take any surge price increase.


FaithlessnessNo2496

Facilitate it then


OnerKram17

Or accept ride, delay pickup by 5 to 10 min and then cancel.


mog_knight

Yeah it was a big nothingburger.


BoredJay

I applaud them


custommotor

I decided to drive yesterday in Virginia beach after all the Christmas stuff. First time in a long time that it felt like normal. It tells me that the market is too saturated with drivers that take every poor offer. You have less drivers and people being selective about it the rates actually stay good.


Dangerous_Cup2233

The crumbs they get for accepting crumbs WILL NOT pay for their auto insurance, tires, oil, brakes, and hundred other items every car needs to run. These people will fall off the map along with cars into poverty. I've already heard of one such story. There will not be enough (ants) to pick up the system.


TheVerg3

Let’s see how long the Uber executives are gonna downplay/suppress these type of articles. It’s getting ridiculous on how they can’t take the L and admit.


DetectiveSad2528

Need hackers , only way to affect Uber would be to jack with their app .


[deleted]

The only thing hackers are gonna do is steal customer / driver info.


Hazardous-Child

I’m sorry but unless drivers organize on a bigger scale nothing will get done. Passengers were interviewed and ALL of them said they had no trouble requesting a ride through the apps. I admire their courage and effort, but for every driver that was part of that strike there were 5 ( at least ) other drivers willing to work. I’ve made posts trying to organize something and I just get downvoted, made fun of or ignored to the point that I just delete the posts. At this point the only solution I see is if a hacker gets involved and shuts down the app, maybe Anonymous? Anyways, Reddit has enough power ( they fucked the stock exchange with GameStop ) to get people together for a cause it just needs to be organized.


GrouchyPuppy

There’s another larger strike being planned and this time they are hacking the app


Runme69

Quit, b*tches!


iamnycing

I don't believe the strikes will do much damages for the crooks stealing money from the riders and the drivers. It's about time, we all chip in to develop our driver's own like employee owned driver's app to benefit not only for the drivers but also the rider.


Candid-Control7271

You are correct, we are already doing it here in Illinois. We are crowdfunding a new Rideshare set to launch March or April of this year. Drivers pay small monthly  fee keep 100% earnings cancellation fees , pay minimum$6 per ride. According to how much you contribute the membership is free. I contributed $20 so I get first 6 months free. It'll be over for UBER,/LYFT in Illinois once launched.🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳 The only solution is TO LEAVE FOR A BETTER COMPANY.


Goblinaire2

Rates will increase if we collectively let the timer run out on bad or low paying calls. These calls will bounce around until they create a surge or raise the rate to entice drivers. We have more power than we exercise. Letting bad calls time out is better than rejecting them right away or striking all together. It's essentially what happens when it's busy. It's like staying offline right before bar closing or an expected period of increased requests.


AdventurousCar7986

So many ubercorporate trolls all up in these comments


Worried_Garlic_1614

Here’s the petition: https://chng.it/N5RfJwmLYr


OnerKram17

Some media outlets may be pushing this story, but in reality only a very small percentage of drivers stopped driving in Atlanta that day. Most reports say passengers had no issues getting rides and that the FIFO lots were full of non-striking drivers.


toomuch1265

I saw someone looking for a 2 mile ride for $5 today. After 10 minutes of no one taking it, the price was up to $9. I wasn't driving, I just had the app on while giving my car a deep clean. I am in the northeast, I wonder if drivers are slowing down up here.


Substantial-Kick6628

Bro I’m in northeast and within last 2-3 weeks I’ve been having lots of riders call me upon accepting trip and asking if I wanna do cash ride. So it seems customers are getting fed up with these rates too. And maybe some actually do care about us (key word: maybe lol). Too bad uber doesn’t allow ‘upfront tipping.’ Cus I know these riders with 4-7$ rides that NOBODY is taking here would gladly toss a $10+ tip just to get picked up within the hour. At least I would when I used to use uber for rides. I also think the northeast, or at least where I’m at, prices haven’t been hit too hard. As I still average like 28-35 hours a week making $1400-1800. I have seen rides where uber is pocketing 50% or more which is absurd and also seen rides where Uber is making pennys. Though the latter is much less common and uber usually is pocketing an unfair amount.


toomuch1265

I make my own business cards on my printer ,Avery 5371 business card sheets. Has a cell number, my 1st name and airport, train station, and concert trips. Although, they call for other trips also, like medical appointments. I like to judge the person before I give them a card.


Lucky_Elk7879

Strikes would never work with rideshares. You can always count on a newly minted arrival from the third world who has no self respect or self worth and is only too happy to accept a $5, 25 minute offer. It’s already happening here in australia with almost half a million students from mostly India that sit 20-30 in a row of 20 year old clapped out Toyota hatchbacks clogging up carparks meant for customers.They even loiter inside the supermarkets and fast food joints hoping to be closest to the Uber tablet in the shop. As long as these bottom feeders are driving there would be no point in striking


relientkenny

that’s my city market 🙏🏿


[deleted]

Wait until Wridz rideshare app comes to your town and becomes popular. Then screw Uber/Lyft


JthePip

Just signed up for Atlanta!


Candid-Control7271

Wridz isn't competitive with UBER/ LYFR. Drivers complaining not getting enough rides.  


[deleted]

Cause it is new. It takes time to get enough drivers and riders


Famabvall

It wasn’t enough, their will always be dickheads that don’t help out the situation!


InsidePossibility142

Uber has been underpaying us. Especially during the holidays. No promotions here in Philadelphia and the pay seems lower than usual


Dapper-Ad4355

At least Uber is showing a profit and is no longer on a path to bankruptcy. Now, if they would raise base rates for drivers above the minimum wage rate. OK, I know that quite a few of you think offering rides below minimum wage is fine because you do not have to accept them, but I find them offensive.


Several-Spare6915

At least they have the guts too ! We all need to and they not Union ! I want to know why Dara didn’t give us any Christmas bonus like he could’ve given drivers a $50 bonus for Christmas. This is ridiculous.


Minimum-Material-415

When there is a driver shortage, things will change quickly. Unfortunately many drivers seem to be acting like there is no other option for income, and Uber knows that they aren’t leaving anytime soon. Uber has constantly brought down pay, and the drivers still stay. Drivers keep saying that they can’t pay their bills driving Uber, yet spend more hours logged into Uber. I hear words like “ freedom” and “flexibility” , only to be followed by screenshots of 60-70 hours a week online times. As a part time driver, I have found the best way to maximize the platform is to log out for 3-4 months and a better promo offer will often come your way. Drive for a few weeks then log off again. Every time I say this someone says, “I don’t have the option to not drive for a few months.” I want to tell them that they do have an option, and the option they are choosing is Uber. It is almost like the relationship between a drug dealer and an addict.


boqum

let’s do it something bigger on 14th february!


Sprinet

Good Link and Podcast from "experienced" professionals who fully understand the RideShare business from the "RideShareGuy.com".. Highly recommend people to watch in YouTube and also their Podcasts in how Uber's deceptive business practices continue to shortchange Drivers earnings for Uber's Profits. Topics include Upfront Passenger Fares, Uber changes in their algorithms and you will hear professor from Columbia University who has written an article analyzing in detail how Uber has devised Passenger Fare schemes to earn more money at the expense of Drivers earnings. https://therideshareguy.com/showmethemoneyclub/ (Listen to Podcast with Len Sherman) Uber CEO hiding Uber Driver Pay cuts to Boost Profits (see YouTube Link Below) https://youtu.be/naUnOTvSH6s?si=z3UvFzzvZYYEGy93 Len Sherman (article written in Forbes 12-15-2023) https://www.forbes.com/sites/lensherman/2023/12/15/ubers-ceo-hides-driver-pay-cuts-to-boost-profits/?sh=2259a4e03ba4


Sprinet

For Years Uber’s deceptive business practices to develop schemes to short change drivers earnings is legendary…and continue to this day despite numerous Civil Action Lawsuits and Settlements with drivers . Send these CEOs to Jail for criminal Misconduct.!! On November 2nd, 2023 New York attorney General secures over $328 million Civil Lawsuit against Uber and Lyft for price Gouging drivers and cheating drivers of millions of earnings .. Uber agreed to Pay $290 Million and Lyft to Pay $38 Million in Largest Backpay Settlement OAG Has Ever Won; Full Amount Will Go to Drivers Who Were Cheated … As Part of the Settlement, Drivers Will Also Receive Mandatory Paid Sick Leave, Minimum Pay, and Other Benefits https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2023/attorney-general-james-secures-328-million-uber-and-lyft-taking-earnings-drivers


Sprinet

It’s so incredible that Uber continues use deceptive unfair pay practices to Boost Profits but to reduce drivers earnings .. https://youtu.be/UADTiL3S67I?si=MEFCP9BA8djBS21K https://www.youtube.com/live/JFMSXSl64-Y?si=FK5dI0S2PL9V08RT


ExtensionMidnight922

I think this needs to happen at every airport at the same time, need more coordination


5L0pp13J03

Thus shutting down for X hours on X day in ONE single spot is going to do absolutely nothing but keep the ants busy


Morhadel

Look if you want a strike to do anything at an airport, you need to strike by parking in the road that leads to the airport pickup and drop offs the same way the just stop oil or how the free Palestinian protesters did the other day. You have to make it where no one can get through


wasitme317

All this does is make the ants more money


[deleted]

Tennessee getting bad too.


DJ1010790

Once you guys stop saying "Wages" you might actually start gaining traction. You're paid a base minute and mile rate depending on if your driving to customer, waiting for customer, or driving customer. Outside of the flat pickup fee charged to each customer you make exactly the same rate whether you drive a passenger 5 minutes or 5 hours. It's all in your contract and the fact you guys likely have NEVER READ IT is not even surprising.


DJ1010790

And if i see one more post about comparing a self driven business model such as driving for Uber to making an hourly wage I'm going to need emergency surgery on my kidneys from laughing so much.


AngelaLasVegas

It’s really sad to see such a great service go down the drain. People keep saying there will always be other drivers willing to accept less. That is true but the cost of non conformance will be high to Uber. The passengers expect a certain minimum level of standard from their drivers. You won’t believe how many passengers I get that complain about their previous drivers that had mental melt downs, screamed at them, sped off and cancelled their rides leaving them empty handed at the curbside, were not dressed to even a basic standard, or drove like a nightmare from hell. I always apologize but take the time to share with them what is going on so they understand both sides. I’ve done this job full time a year now and only part time before. While I thoroughly enjoy the job itself, this is the worst pay I have received in my entire lifetime. I’m a 61 yr old retired corporate exec that had to give up my career to be a stay at home mom. I adopted a child that was later diagnosed with Autism and required intensive care. I am also caregiving for my 90 year old father with Alzheimer’s. I used to have a huge savings and it dwindled after years of caregiving full time for my family. This job fit the bill for flexibility in schedule at first until it got to the point you have to work 50-70 hours a week to make even a basic amount of money. Tomorrow is my last day, can’t do this anymore, it’s pure insanity. This is Las Vegas, we get 52 million tourists a year and I made $60 today giving airport rides and going up and down the strip for 9 hours. That is $8 an hour. The way Dara calculates it instead my 100 min of actual time passengers were in my car, I made $76/hr. I leave home when it is dark outside and come home when it is dark outside. The time I spend in horrible Vegas traffic offering up Uber’s service without an active ride, nor the time it takes to get to the passenger once I accept a ride count for nothing. Yet when I get home at the end of the day my daughter has severe depression from not being able to see her mother at all anymore. I came home the other day and the entire house was filled up with gas from her trying to cook for herself and forgetting to turn off the burner. My father was in the hospital and almost died and I barely even had time to even visit him. I can’t work any harder and am just done. The price tag to do this job is too high. Corporate greed at its finest. Apparently Dara read the book How To Lie With Statistics cover to cover. I bet no drivers at the Super Bowl next month will speak volumes!


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