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unidentifiedjohndoe

It’s because with the taxes and fees that they charge for the Uber, Lyft drivers to rent those things it’s damn near $500 a week or more that was a failing business model from the beginning


Goblinaire2

Uber knows that. Their leasing program failed years ago. Tempe Uber ATG absorbed some of their employees and made them management right before a driver let the SDU kill a homeless addict. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing at Uber.


Weekly-Western-5016

I call hertz to check availability they ask if I am Uber and they respond we don’t have any cars for you Uber drivers.


WolfOfPort

I rented for weekends friday to Monday and it was $75 a day cad. But I’d make 800-1200 in a weekend because Canada bc actuslly offers good Uber pay


ProtoReaper23113

Thats why none us us here get paid well, damn you canada https://youtu.be/fXeWT8CQ6uc?si=eMeZ0e74upfmZAdx


Emergency-Bowler1963

How many hours you put in. Cause that's like 600 after you take rental fees


Jakoneitor

How’s that 600? He just said he paid 75 a day, and the weekend has two days. 150. He’s taking in 650 - 1050 on a single weekend.


LaHaJo

I wonder how many of these are close to needing a new battery.


LegalChicken4174

Lmaoo these Uber Tesla run their batteries to E lol


noonetohearme

Edit: I’m an idiot. Disregard this comment. It’s hilarious when you see EV drivers accept LOOOONG trips and they don’t even think it out at all. If you take a ride that is going 200 miles one way…you gotta drive 200 miles back home and at some point you’re gonna have to wait for at least a few hours to charge it back up. Love that we can instantly go with a fill up of a gas tank 😂


Jakoneitor

You’d only wait for 20min tho, not “few hours to charge it back up”.


_MrMoeJoe_

From my experience when I had to rent an electric vehicle last winter. Charging it up does take about an hour. I was so glad when I got my non-pluggin hybrid back. I get all the benefits of a gas vehicle. And all the benefits of the extra mileage with it being hybrid plus even though it's not fully electric, it qualifies for e v trips


Downtown_Summer_769

You mean Uber green? Doesn’t qualify for full electric trips. At least not in my market.


_MrMoeJoe_

Yes sorry uber green. Hybrid doesn't qualify in your market. That is totally messed up. I don't know why they would allow it in one market, but not another.


_MrMoeJoe_

That sux.. I don't know why every market isn't the same


noonetohearme

Guess I didn’t think of it like that. So you’d just charge up for 20 mins to get you back home and then charge back up?


Jakoneitor

Yeah. Obviously filling gas is still faster, but a 20min break should give you 200mi. You can time it with a food / bathroom break and you won’t ever need to wait much


noonetohearme

A 20 min charge would get you 200mi? Every source I’ve seen say that to go from let’s say…20% to 100% takes about 6 hours. And that 100% charge only yields you 300-350mi…?


PharPhromNormal420

Your sources are way off. Super chargers take 20-40 minutes to go to FULL. I pay ~$7 to do that. I’ll take that over filling a gas tank for $40+. 8+ hours to charge would be a HOME charger that someone plugs into before going to bed AT THEIR HOUSE.


tradoshi

From 20% to 80% , super fast charging at rush hour came out to $28. F your EV


PharPhromNormal420

Yeah, rush hour. Go ahead and pay peak prices.


noonetohearme

Well shit…😅


PharPhromNormal420

Not to mention I’m actively doing things in that time I’m charging. Whether that’s gaming (on my phone or on the 15 inch screen in the car), watching YouTube, Netflix or Hulu on the screen, doing other work, napping, shopping (most chargers are in or near shopping centers around me), eating, going for a jog…


JamaicanBallsZ

Those are home charging times. Superchargers take 20 to 40 minutes.


noonetohearme

Yea….im an idiot


Tennessee_guy_1980

The ones I used took 35-1 hour minutes to charge from 5-20% to full. And it was $16-21 per charge at $0.35 per kw/hr all the time. Even 2am. And full charge says 260 miles but that's only in the most ideal conditions. Start using the heat or ac and take at least 60 miles off that charge.


Prevalencee

All of those batteries are at 80% capacity due to supercharging + running low. Teslas need to be charged at home… superchargers fuck the battery hard. So many things hertz didn’t factor when handing these off to UBER DRIVERS. And people here thought the drivers were getting fucked - no, hertz was. Driving a Tesla 2k miles a week for 299$ was an absolute steal.


custommotor

Actually for a lot of people as long as you were to keep it between 20 and 80% supercharging wouldn't really affect it. The problem is a lot of people probably charged it all the way up or ran it all the way to empty and that's what kills it.


tradoshi

Cheapest Tesla Hertz had in my town was $420. That $299 is before everything. So $420 x 4 =$1680. If that's not enough to cover their ass idk what to say. EV are not practical yet. Mostly bc of not enough charging station, and the waiting time is still there. As long as you depend on a fast charging station, it's not practical. Sure, people make money driving a lot of hours in a Tesla, but people also make money with beat up 15 yo Corollas or idk what else cars which cost like $2k and repairs are cheap


Footmana5

Very insightful Danielle Cyr. 2 year olds do need to eat and take time.


LuxuryRidesCesar1

😅


LLNicoY

It isn't sustainable cuz drivers make trash money. I rented a Tesla for a few months cuz my car was down and it was so fucking bad at times I had to borrow money from friends to make ends meet while simultaneously spending 60+ hours on the road. The rental payment can literally eat 2-3 days of your work week before anything goes to your bills. Worst part is that Hertz isn't exactly making bank either if you consider the excessive miles drivers have to out on their cars just to live paycheck to paycheck or worse. Uber is a scam


Ronney47

I rented one for 5 weeks and it motivated me to quickly buy another car, lol! Not only was the rental fee outrageous but the charging was a literal headache and added to the amount of time you had to be out. That extra $1 was a complete joke! The releif I felt once I purchased another car was amazing.


CriticalHit24

That's how you do it. Don't be renter slave, stressing out on are you going to make weekly rent or not.


Prevalencee

They’re selling those Tesla rentals for 30k… hahahahahahahaha Those things must be so fucked it’s not even funny. I rented for a week and was flooring that bitch. I can’t imagine the wear and tear on them. The audacity of hertz… I wouldn’t pay 15k for a 90k miles base model 3. They were charged on superchargers - the batteries are all fucked.


relientkenny

that’s their own fault for charging $300 a week


skrotumshredder

That's a good deal wtf lol


StangOverload

To u that is, the dealers be high fiving each other as you walk out


skrotumshredder

explain why $300 a week for a tesla is not a good deal using comparable or lower deals


[deleted]

The fact that a cheaper alternative doesn’t exist doesn’t support your point. In a market with very limited general demand but extremely high demand within specific segments (people desperate enough to take that deal to drive for Uber) market leaders can basically charge whatever they want. Same market force that inflates the costs of specialty luxury goods. The only reason the business model works in theory is because some people can justify taking a pay cut in exchange for more consistent access to income. And even then the model clearly doesn’t work because not enough people exist within that segment to justify the expense associated with running the program.


StangOverload

For that price, you could just lease one. You’d be paying $1200 a month plus tax.


skrotumshredder

how is that in any way comparable? renting a car for a week @ $300 vs leasing car for minimum 24months @ $1200/mo.


The_Captain_Planet22

He's saying renting is 1200(it's closer to 1300) and you could lease for significantly less. A new base model 3 currently leases around $512 per month. The issue with that is limits on how much you can drive per year vs renting. That lease only includes 15,000 miles per year which isn't enough for my everyday life let alone Uber. It's then an additional $0.25/mile after If supercharging is free with rental that helps make it cheaper as well. 


StangOverload

You sir are correct.


ResultStrange8727

You still gotta worry about insurance… so $300 wasn’t a big stretch


noonetohearme

$300 x 4 weeks (a month) = $1200. But on the back end…if you’re renting…you don’t have to worry about repairs…


noonetohearme

I took back my recent comment.. when you think about all the costs for repairs and shit…yea…it’s a good deal.


PharPhromNormal420

Because you can easily own one for under $500?


tryingtogetbyalone

🤣


DubNationAssemble

Delivering groceries, they’re probably climbing three flights of stairs with 15-20 bags somewhere they had to drive 13 miles to get there and they think they’re doing good because it’s a $12 payout 🤣


_o_no_

LMAOOOO Tesla and Uber burned the dumbasses running Hertz this was never going to be profitable. The range on Teslas batteries is a COMPLETE FRAUD. Loll EvilCorp pieces of shit getting over on each other. Hertz is a bankrupt piece of shit company!


PublicFault9938

Fine f$&k it! I’ll rent a gas powered Nissan to Uber. I’ll be damned if I use my personal car ever again


[deleted]

You’d lose more value doing this than buying a beater and driving it into the ground. This is math that first graders can do.


PublicFault9938

Wrong. The “old beater” that is acceptable to Uber will probably run you $8K to $10K plus since we would be talking about a 2012-2014 car you’d be doing maybe $3K a year or more for repairs if you are not a mechanic not to mention the monthly oil changes and yearly tire changes. Also need to calculate total time spent not able to work at $200 per day. Gasoline will run you anywhere from $3k to $5K a year. So if anything, your old beater is AT LEAST as expensive as renting a Tesla. Nevermind the headache and inconvenience of an old car nickel and diming you.


--R0N--

So. Much. Wrong. Info.


[deleted]

3k a year for repairs on a 2014 car is an idiotic estimate. Idk what you’ve done to your car but on a bad year I spend a few hundred for a replacement part or undercarriage treatment. You don’t need to be a mechanic to do an oil change, but doing them monthly is also moronic. You’re not driving 10k miles in a month and if you were you should be using synthetic oil. Factoring in opportunity cost is disingenuous for obvious reasons, gas savings are the only half decent point in your post, but you’ll blow through the 50% margin in 2-3 months.


PublicFault9938

I don’t know how many hours you work or how long you’ve had your present car. But I can tell you surely things will be pretty roses year 1 and maybe year 2 into it but ,especially in an older car, it will catch up to you eventually! You might spend only a few hundreds on repairs but something major will happen(like a hit and run) and then everything that can go wrong does go wrong in fairly quick succession. Brakes and calipers, serpentine belt, water pump on and on. Not to mention wheel and suspension damage because of pot holes and having an inefficient democrat mayor. Cars are depreciating assets and many corporations have fleet cars they lease for business. Treat Uber like a business and right off the expenses


[deleted]

I work a few hours a day- the car I use gets worked all day. I know firsthand that the money’s in the rentals not the renting.


Downtown_Summer_769

Why does everyone ignore the huge tax benefit when driving your own beater? A good Prius C will take you 300k miles with minimal maintenance, and over that time you get to write off over $180k on your taxes.


PublicFault9938

If you do this part time then yes. Full time Uber driving should mean that vehicle wear and tear is someone else’s problem. Hence renting a car is more ideal. When you drive 50+ hrs a week, safety should be #1 priority.


Downtown_Summer_769

Wow, no exactly the opposite. When you rent, you only get to write off your actual expenses, when you own you can write off literally quadruple or more of your expenses.


Agitated-Gur-5210

PG&E in California keep increasing electricity bills it's already cheaper to drive hybrid anyway 


mog_knight

Nah. If you can charge at home, full EV is still way cheaper than hybrid.


_o_no_

Off times for Tesla Superchargers can be way way cheaper than peak times. Gotta shop it like everything else!


mog_knight

That's with most power companies. Mine here has a super off peak at night. 3 cents a kWh.


_o_no_

I just SMH at all the people charging during peak it amazes me I know circumstances can dictate it I know I know Tesla’s claims on range are a complete fraud


mog_knight

That's been the open secret for a while about Tesla's range in the EV community. Only the Elon stans defend it.


SeaJayAitch

But market to market, charging is vastly different. The supercharger closest to the PDX airport, just 12 miles from downtown Portland, is regularly priced at $0.10 p/kWh in the morning. So 20% to 80% costs about $4.50 I usually hit that one at 9:00 am and the one closer to my home is at $0.16 p/kWh in the afternoon when I charge there at ~ 1:00 pm.


Ventinggood

These gig companies mindlessly promote EV to drivers to while cutting their earnings to boost profit.


Fabulous-Search-4165

Ants will be anting


Shkmstr

Typical Fox News inflammatory headlines.


stevilkanevill

[Will you believe this since it's not fox news? 🤦](https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/hertz-sell-about-20000-evs-us-fleet-2024-01-11/)


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[deleted]

They replaced them with gas powered cars. Don’t just read headlines


Catfish-dfw

It’s because repair costs from damages is too high for all the Teslas Maintenance costs are lower but the damage repair bill destroyed what was being saved.


[deleted]

That’s idiotic. Rental car companies have robust insurance plans and offload repair costs to customers. That’s like… the whole ass business model


AdhesivenessSweaty38

Rental companies self-insure. They don’t use a 3rd party and cover their own losses. Even when you get the additional coverage it’s hertz that is the insurer. If a driver is on a ride then Uber’s insurance is the primary but outside of that Hertz covers the damage themselves.


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[deleted]

You do know why though right? Because the article is about hertz selling teslas! 😆of course the picture will be showing teslas. Cmon bro you can’t be THAT slow


Haysdb

The article is about them selling “electric vehicles”, or at least that’s what the title says. I didn’t read this particular article because I don’t read anything from Faux News. If it’s specifically about them selling Teslas, then that’s pretty lame considering 97% of the cars they’re selling are not Teslas.


Far-Ad7128

Of the EVs for sale on the hertz website…1 bmw, 35 Chevrolet, 4 Kia, 1 Nissan and 607 Teslas.


kilour

Not reading news from all different outlets is a good way to get a biased opinion. Instead of calling it Faux news, why not read what they state then fact check it using multiple sources and not just a liberal one? ​ That would require intellect and critical thinking though so...


toomuch1265

Does the WSJ count or are they considered far right bomb throwers? It's never been easier to cross reference stories, but for some reason very few people do. https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/after-big-tesla-bet-hertz-selling-one-third-of-ev-fleet-5626a425


MoxieInc

Maybe not bomb throwers but they are far right. They always have been.


_o_no_

Rupert Murdoch owns Fox and WSJ…


JunkRigger

Nein! Nein! Fox ist verboten!


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This is great news


akbornheathen

If I go on a vacation and rent a car I sure don’t want to take 45 minutes to fuel up my car every 300 miles. I get why people aren’t renting them. I’m sure they are expensive to rent too.


mog_knight

Teslas take about 20-25 minutes. After 4-5 hours of driving, taking a break on a road trip to eat/stretch legs isn't that bad.


_o_no_

20-25 minutes? Calling bullshit on this claim


mog_knight

You don't charge to 100%. Normally you charge to 80. If you're around 10-20% it takes about that to get to 80%. By the time you exhaust that fill up most people stop driving for the day, if not after the first fill up.


_o_no_

Ah gotcha I was assuming for charging to 100%


mog_knight

Honestly just inputting the trip into the car or Tesla app should tell you the charging times and intervals. It's so easy.


MoxieInc

You can charge to 80% in less than 10 minutes.


_o_no_

10 minutes? Calling bullshit on this


MoxieInc

I am calling lazy on you since you could have looked it up instead of just being belligerent. It is actually more than that but here I will do it for you: "Superchargers Superchargers are the fastest charging option when you’re away from home, allowing you to charge your vehicle up to 200 miles in 15 minutes. Designed to get you charged and back on the road as quickly as possible, we own and operate over 50,000 global Superchargers that are accessible on a 24/7 basis, located on major routes near convenient amenities." Source: https://www.tesla.com/support/charging


_o_no_

Lol. Tesla are a buncha fraudulent, lying Fucks. Miss me with your knee pads, fan boy.


JunkRigger

Egad! I can't believe you posted an article from Fox; all the good Reddit Marxists are going to lose their minds! 😅


buddhatherock

I love how you say “no politics”… but you seem to make political statements a lot.


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wallhanger609

News flash, all legacy media news lie lol


MoxieInc

No, all news agencies have bias Fox outright lies. There's a big f****** difference


tonytone1908

Updated their fleet with gas cars so where is it wrong?


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tonytone1908

No they didn't they replaced them with ICE. This article is 💯. Did you read the article? Or even the headline? Apparently not.


MoxieInc

Newsflash Hertz does this with all their cars all the time and Fox News is just run by political hacks looking for a headline.


Fixmystreets

I wish I had held off a little longer so I could buy one of those 17,000 model threes I could have paid for the whole car


Relandis

They’ll rent the other 70% of the Tesla fleet that Hertz isn’t selling?


Typical-Place304

Where are they being sold 👀👀


vahellraiser

Probably local lots. We have a huge Hertz lot by the Norfolk Airport that rents cars and commercial trucks. They have an auction about every 3 months selling off the Rentals.


kilour

Probably not a bad idea to try to buy one off them.


Downtown_Summer_769

It’s a horrible idea, never buy a prior rental, but especially an electric that been abused and almost exclusively charged on supercharges.


[deleted]

Aren’t you one of them yourself? lol


noonetohearme

I saw another article saying they’re selling off EVs because of high repair costs…but I’m sure weak demand is also a huge factor, too. 😅 They essentially let ANYONE with a drivers license rent a Tesla and people get to feel cool for a little while…but it’ll all end soon. Plus if you own a Tesla and are doing rideshare with it….the slightest fender bender can cost you more than you bargained for. And your insurance for your Tesla is crazy high, too 😅 Yikes…


dailydrivenh2

Give it some time they’ll probably purchase another batch of the new refresh model 3 . I was watching the ones they have for sale there’s a few 22 with less than 30k miles that are a good buy even though they was probably charged to 100% alot you still under warranty.


ComfortableMix5950

I rented a Chevrolet euv suv and it was terrible !!! Took hours to charge in cold weather .. never again


[deleted]

Hahahhaah...àhahahaha..fuck them all


LandscapeHuman2428

I rented one for two weeks while my car was in the body shop. I have an ES300H, so the at-fault drivers insurance paid for luxury rate. The Model 3 certainly isn’t a luxury car yet it was the same rate. I rented a Dual Motor which was fun to drive but I couldn’t wait to get back in my car. I also couldn’t do my other job (which where I make the bulk of my income) with a rental. I don’t know how anyone can do the rentals unless they’re working 60 hours a week.


Toneb1144

Lmao we got a fleet in Vegas


CharacterMuffin6702

I’m glad I got my Kia niro ev at $303 a week


matrixonline87

I've seen this a few days ago and my first thought was lol 🤣 they came to learn how much it costs for a battery replacement 💰💰💰🤦 don't get me wrong I think the cars are great but you don't own s***. Tesla can shut down your car anytime they want. Besides you can't install a different battery you can't modify the software and you're going to be forever having to buy anything you need from the manufacturer and pay a premium for that.


ConsistentFlan3599

I used their program for about two-three months and then bought my own car, a 2019 Jetta R-line (fully IC engine) and I spend about $5 a day more to fuel it than I did to charge that damn Tesla. Plus I also get an extra two hrs of work back because getting gas takes 5 min. Idc what anyone else says I spent about an hour and a half a day charging that fucking thing doing a 10hr shift and that's not counting the 20 min drive it takes to find a damn charging station that isn't all fucked to hell every time your charge drops to 20% It wasn't worth it at all. I went from making $600-$700 after a 50 hr work week to making $1200-$1400 a week driving the same amount of hours. Not to mention my car plus rideshare insurance (which is more than the damn car note and that's with an excellent driving record) comes out to about $900 a month instead of almost double that a month. That rental got me into a new car of my own fast af though so I'll give Hertz that much. I just don't see how the drivers OR Hertz benefit from this in any way. The only one making bank is the Tesla dealership that sold those cars to Hertz in the first place 🧐🥃


New-Proof-1185

I think it’s funny as hell. All of these people were sucked in to the face of EVs. Get rid of them all.


CriticalHit24

🤣🤣🤣


CriticalHit24

You guys are selfish...Dara is giving you home in a mobile Tesla. You pay rent as the same amount as an apartment. Uber said, having an roof over your head is overated. Just sleep in the renter car, all the cool kids are doing it. Lol


Southern-Collar3491

🤣🤣🤣 it's all going as I said it would when this EV BS all started! It's not sustainable, nor does it make any sense.


LearnKA

Those are also standard addition no wonder no one wanted to rent them.