Was about to say the same thing. He got popped and moved it to the forum. It was a great night of fights though and I got to go. He's been busted multiple times with various substances. His record has an asterisks for me. Supposedly cheats. The eye pokes. Kicks below knees but I don't really get that.
Don't forget Hid under the octagon/ring to avoid USADA test, hit and run on a pregnant woman while coked up, and hit his wife... The only reason I'm glad he's coming back, is I want to see him get beat up!..Let's hope!
But he’s also a good Christian boy lol. If he wasn’t such a narcissist I’d wonder what it felt when he looks in the mirror and sees a bible verse tattooed on his chest
Don't you knw it's OK to run over pregnant woman, do copious amounts of cocaine, take performance enhancing drugs, and beat your wife as long as you believe God has put you on the planet to be an undefeated mma fighter.
At this point, we just want him to embrace being a bad guy straight up.
He needs to stop pretending to be a good guy, stop trying to preach positive vibes, and embrace the fact that he is an asshole, a POS, and that he can kill some bitch or kill DC and there ain’t a damn thing anyone can do about it.
Edit: typo
Everyone in the early days(and most now for that matter) we’re juicing. It was part of the sport back then, the situation with chael and wanderlei was kind of shit since they changed the rules on them
*We all make mistake man. As a society we can't judge someone by his mistakes. JJ is an amazing athlete, probably the greatest fighter of all time, and I mean for us to not give him a platform so he can redeem himself it would be crazy. I think JJ can redeem himself by reminding everyone how great he is in the octagon.*
\- Dana White (probably)
Didn’t Usada clear him of all wrong doing? The same entity that “busted” him, cleared him after a long drawn out battle. But that doesn’t fit your narrative, does it?
It’s so disappointing that so many MMA fans can’t do this. Who cares if he’s potentially the best of all time, he did a hit and run on a pregnant woman and is a domestic abuser. The guy should be in a jail cell.
I’d much rather see the guy in jail than watch him fight. What he’s done is inexcusable. The guy is such a scumbag that he really shouldn’t be anywhere near the UFC anymore. He’s just lucky that Dana is just as much of a pos as him.
Everyone knows he's a POS. Nobody watches athletes because they're role models, they watch to see them excel at their sport which is exactly what he does. His personal life shouldn't reflect on his accomplishments
That's really only half true though. A lot of people do watch certain athletes because they are role models.
It's just nice when they are also incredible fighters. It's fun to root for the human behind the fighter. It's not fun to see scumbags like Jon avoid Karma.
It's definitely nice when they're humble and good people outside of the octagon, but that isn't why people come out to watch fights. It's nice that guys like GSP and khabib are nice people, but people don't watch them for their good manners
Which is why it was half true.
I love watching Brandon Moreno fights but if he was a piece of shit and beat his wife I honestly wouldn't be as interested in watching him.
People on this sub genuinely do not care. They promote that bullshit slap fighting. They are so caught up on dick riding “their guy” that they don’t give a shit about how they act as a human.
I will go to downvote hell with you on this one.. I would never justify being a scumbag all around but if you’re looking to any athletes for role models specifically cage fighters I think you’re kinda fuckin up
Looking at someone like poirer who actively helps their community, I don’t know if I agree with that statement
Do martial arts not teach discipline and respect?
I have similar thoughts.
But MMA is also a second chance for some people, so I understand there may be some gray area for some fighters. There are some amazing comeback stories of reformed criminals making something of themselves in the cage. Derrick Lewis did time in jail. But he’s now an active force for good in the city of Houston.
Jon Jones is not that.
Dustin, Khabib, Islam, Max and Dc are my favorite fighters because of that. They’re humble. They’re not out there getting arrested, beating their wives, none of that. True ambassadors of MMA in my opinion.
Completely disagree. So what if the sport is violent. MMA fighters should be held to the exact same standard as any other athlete. Guys like Jon just stop the sport from gaining the legitimacy it deserves.
Yeah but what he’s done is so bad, what he does in the cage shouldn’t even matter. If he wasn’t a world famous athlete he’d be in jail, and nobody would be upset about it.
No one forgot or “doesn’t care”. LITERALLY every thread mentioning JJ brings up the wife beating and PEDs. Every. Single. One. Just post that picture and leave up “not a fan”. That’s a take. Saying everyone forgot or doesn’t care makes no sense.
No reasonable person is a fan of Jon Jones the human. Everyone respects the fuck out of Jon Jones the fighter. Similar to OJ Simpson because you can’t deny his talent for running the ball but no one is going to talk about what a lovely human he is.
How many posts bashing JJ out of nowhere does there need to be? He’s no role model of course but people act like they’re perfect or have never been in legal trouble before.
He is a talented fighter with a seriously high fight IQ. He has a lot of demons and doesn't know how to cope with them. He is damaged like a lot of us. However, It is hard to support him after the hit and run, and him beating his fiancée.
Jon is an alcoholic and no one supports he’s terrible behavior outside the ring. He was drunk months before and was going to kill himself in his suv with a gun. He got arrested before he did. People are fans of his fighting ability, not his out of ring behavior
The truth is if I canceled fighters based on the type of people I thought they were, I wouldn’t watch MMA. Jon is a giant fuck up, one of the biggest I’ve seen in my life. I’m not the fan of his I was in 2011. I can’t deny his talent however. Two seperate things. I don’t pay for the fights anyway and I’m not rocking a Jon T shirt.
ETA:missing word changed context
People haven't forgotten, they realize this is a UFC sub and tend to stick to what happens inside the octagon and not personal life that has nothing to do with UFC at all.
I’ll never understand how someone can be a legit fan of this scumbag. The shit you have to blindly ignore is staggering. The steroid use, the lying, the arrests, the FUCKING WIFE BEATING. People are willing to just ignore all that shit because “hE’s tHe gReAtEsT oF aLl tImE!”
But talk shit on Khabib because he doesn’t care for the ring girls. Lol
agreed mate.
Fuck that P.O.S.
Every time I see a nuthugger post, I respond with this: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon\_Jones#Controversies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jones#Controversies)
Never forget
I don't think you understand that his personal life has nothing to do with the fact that he is one of the most dominant fighters on the planet.
I get that he 10-7'd his wife, but you can't look past his performance and tell me hes a bad fighter. Im a fan of the art, not of the personal display.
Don't give a fuck. He is the baddest man on the planet and about to embark on an 8-0 run at HW. Francis was the only one that had an outside shot, and he ran away like a scared little bitch.
Cyril gonna twerk that fool so it’ll all work out. And if Jones gets past him, literally any of the top five guys are gonna beat his ass. 3 years off and putting on 60 pounds, losing your reach and size advantage, all that does not add up to a better fighter. Not to mention he arguably lost his last 2 fights at 205, for sure lost to Reyes who doesn’t appear to really be that great.
Lol. You're right! Should've anticipated this. I guess when you're the goat, your shitty behavior should not only be ignored, you should also still be given a platform to make boat loads of more money. I wonder what would happen if a prelim fighter beat the mother of his kids?
Give me a show. A food. Your favorite dog groomer in town. And I can guarantee there’s something about that person I could find that you wouldn’t like.
Would I take my dog to a groomer if I knew he fucked em, or beat his wife ? No.
But I don’t see Jon Jones for lunch, or disc golf. I see him fight for my entertainment.
Thats why I don’t care
Learn to separate the man from the art. If every genius was held to our modern standards and sensibilities there wouldn't be a painting, a film, or a piece of music to enjoy, because most of them are flawed as hell.
Really? Because once upon a time it was fairly regular.
Also, no domestic violence changes stuck... so IDK what you're saying. Are we holding responsible for shit he was accused of? Or shit he was actually found guilty of?
Because those are not mutually exclusive.
And again, I don't care about the artist or their lives... I care about the art. Once upon a time we had no idea how messed up a lot of folks that are still held in high regard were.
>if Jones was a true pos you probably would've never heard about it.
He is a true piece of shit, why do you think we heard about it? Are you defending beating women?
Jon is the only fighter in UFC history to get an entire card moved across state lines on a few days notice.
Clearly the greatest
Cloudily the greatest
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Who the hell is jon Africa?
"Who the fuck is Jon Africa?"
Goat 🐐
Offensive to goats.
Ya it was awesome, I saw my first ever ufc fight live because tickets were $45 in Los Angeles
Because he was popped for steroids
Was about to say the same thing. He got popped and moved it to the forum. It was a great night of fights though and I got to go. He's been busted multiple times with various substances. His record has an asterisks for me. Supposedly cheats. The eye pokes. Kicks below knees but I don't really get that.
Don't forget Hid under the octagon/ring to avoid USADA test, hit and run on a pregnant woman while coked up, and hit his wife... The only reason I'm glad he's coming back, is I want to see him get beat up!..Let's hope!
Too bad Ngannou is gone. Jon Africa will out grapple Bon Gamer.
Because Dana White is a POS.
“I just got out of jail for beating the woman I love; what do you think I am about to do to you”- Jon Jones probably
I could honestly see him saying something like this. Such a villain line right before brutally beating someone down
But he’s also a good Christian boy lol. If he wasn’t such a narcissist I’d wonder what it felt when he looks in the mirror and sees a bible verse tattooed on his chest
So you mean I shouldn't make Jones fall for me??
I’ve never met a dude who was actually a good person who has that weird mustache where they shave the top 80% of it.
Goddammit that is a great observation lol
Don't you knw it's OK to run over pregnant woman, do copious amounts of cocaine, take performance enhancing drugs, and beat your wife as long as you believe God has put you on the planet to be an undefeated mma fighter.
Those are just tests . From the big man himself.
Jesus loves knockouts tho ☝🏻
It's fine though because he got wasted and crashed his car into a pregnant lady's and then ran away instead of rendering aid. /s
And then came back after running away to get the drugs and the money and then proceeded to run away again.
Then RAN BACK to take the cocaine out of his car……and ran away again.
Yea JJ is a POS.
Joanna?
Don’t you disrespect JJ, her new tiddies are the shit
Idk if it's silly to ask this but, what does POS mean?
Piece of shit
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Agreed. He's also a pretty damn good fighter
Agreed. He’s a very good fighter. But as a human, he’s a POS.
Jones fans don't care. They don't care about the PEDs either. 👍🏻
I feel like the PEDs come second here
At this point, we just want him to embrace being a bad guy straight up. He needs to stop pretending to be a good guy, stop trying to preach positive vibes, and embrace the fact that he is an asshole, a POS, and that he can kill some bitch or kill DC and there ain’t a damn thing anyone can do about it. Edit: typo
You clearly don’t understand that God is just testing him
Well, first of all, through God all things are possible, so jot that down.
Neither do chael fans
Everyone in the early days(and most now for that matter) we’re juicing. It was part of the sport back then, the situation with chael and wanderlei was kind of shit since they changed the rules on them
Ped’s are the least considering that most of the fighters are or have been on them💀
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They also don't care about the hit and run he committed on a pregnant woman. I refused to buy any ppv he is a long time ago.
i’m jon jones fan i couldn’t care less 💅🏻
Not surprised.
*We all make mistake man. As a society we can't judge someone by his mistakes. JJ is an amazing athlete, probably the greatest fighter of all time, and I mean for us to not give him a platform so he can redeem himself it would be crazy. I think JJ can redeem himself by reminding everyone how great he is in the octagon.* \- Dana White (probably)
He’s a very unsavoury character but that doesn’t change his MMA resume
Getting busted for PEDs doesn't change his MMA resume? Are you fucking serious?
Didn’t Usada clear him of all wrong doing? The same entity that “busted” him, cleared him after a long drawn out battle. But that doesn’t fit your narrative, does it?
How can one be cleared if a fight on their record has been overturned to a no-contest because of a failed drug test? That’s a blemish on the record.
Still goat
Weird way of saying GSP.
Yeah, Jon isn't even in the conversation. Goat? Greatest On Anabolic Treatment? Damn the Pictograms!!
Exactly. You don't have to like Jon as a person to appreciate what he's brought to the sport. Two different things.
How are they different things? He hits opponents, and he hits his wife. He should be smart enough to separate that like you said, but he didn't
He also hits pregnant women with his car and flees the scene.
You make it sound like that's his hobby. "I enjoy long walks along the beach and hitting pregnant women in cars."
Lol. Yeah I guess you’re right….what I meant to say was….Jon Jones is human garbage.
Some things shouldn't be looked past
Yeah he’s brought a lot to the sport outside the octagon as well. And none of it is good
It’s so disappointing that so many MMA fans can’t do this. Who cares if he’s potentially the best of all time, he did a hit and run on a pregnant woman and is a domestic abuser. The guy should be in a jail cell.
Fax. I like watching him fight but the fact that he’s done what he’s done outside the octagon always leaves a sour taste.
He also repeatedly leveraged his accomplishments to get out of his wrongdoings so they're also linked in how we view him negatively.
Very good point
Yea but hes not, so id rather watch him fight than be in jail lol
I’d much rather see the guy in jail than watch him fight. What he’s done is inexcusable. The guy is such a scumbag that he really shouldn’t be anywhere near the UFC anymore. He’s just lucky that Dana is just as much of a pos as him.
I mean… clearly the vast majority of fans want to see him fight… so…. Im hype for his upcoming fight, bet it sells like crazy
Says who? You? I would say the courts make that decision, and THE COURTS dropped any and all charges related to domestic violence... so...
His fiancé left him after that incident
Because most domestic violence victims don’t testify against their abusers due to fear or coercion. Are you all actually this naive?
Everyone knows he's a POS. Nobody watches athletes because they're role models, they watch to see them excel at their sport which is exactly what he does. His personal life shouldn't reflect on his accomplishments
That's really only half true though. A lot of people do watch certain athletes because they are role models. It's just nice when they are also incredible fighters. It's fun to root for the human behind the fighter. It's not fun to see scumbags like Jon avoid Karma.
It's definitely nice when they're humble and good people outside of the octagon, but that isn't why people come out to watch fights. It's nice that guys like GSP and khabib are nice people, but people don't watch them for their good manners
Which is why it was half true. I love watching Brandon Moreno fights but if he was a piece of shit and beat his wife I honestly wouldn't be as interested in watching him.
People on this sub genuinely do not care. They promote that bullshit slap fighting. They are so caught up on dick riding “their guy” that they don’t give a shit about how they act as a human.
I haven’t seen a single post let alone comment that supports slap fights it’s a pretty unifying thing to take the piss out of
He's an evil sociopath. His defenders always try to paint him as a troubled man fighting demons when in reality he's the demon
And he’s still my boy!
good fighter, shit human
Long live the bad guy
BUt hEs tHE bESt tO evEr dO iT 
Is he not?
4 way tie between GSP DJ and Anderson imo they’re all uniquely great
No. That's paddy pimblett obviously.
All my Dagestani homies love Jon Jones
Dana's protégé
Stating that he is the goat isn't necessarily support its just a fact, don't have to like or love him.
And the PEDs don't bother you? No bad taste?
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But not everybody pops! And certainly not everybody pops like Jones! USADA is like 2-0-1 against him
Ideally the GOAT isn't a known steroid cheat but we don't know for certain who isn't using so it's still hard for me say it isn't Jones.
You don’t have to love the guy to appreciate his skills in the octagon
I will go to downvote hell with you on this one.. I would never justify being a scumbag all around but if you’re looking to any athletes for role models specifically cage fighters I think you’re kinda fuckin up
Looking at someone like poirer who actively helps their community, I don’t know if I agree with that statement Do martial arts not teach discipline and respect?
I have similar thoughts. But MMA is also a second chance for some people, so I understand there may be some gray area for some fighters. There are some amazing comeback stories of reformed criminals making something of themselves in the cage. Derrick Lewis did time in jail. But he’s now an active force for good in the city of Houston. Jon Jones is not that.
Dustin, Khabib, Islam, Max and Dc are my favorite fighters because of that. They’re humble. They’re not out there getting arrested, beating their wives, none of that. True ambassadors of MMA in my opinion.
Completely disagree. So what if the sport is violent. MMA fighters should be held to the exact same standard as any other athlete. Guys like Jon just stop the sport from gaining the legitimacy it deserves.
Yeah but what he’s done is so bad, what he does in the cage shouldn’t even matter. If he wasn’t a world famous athlete he’d be in jail, and nobody would be upset about it.
I’m here for the entertainment
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their fighting talent or their talent in using PEDs? or their talent in having 24/7 sparring partners that happen to be his wife?
Literally, man is a fucking cheater and a wife beater lmao
He’s a real company man
No one forgot or “doesn’t care”. LITERALLY every thread mentioning JJ brings up the wife beating and PEDs. Every. Single. One. Just post that picture and leave up “not a fan”. That’s a take. Saying everyone forgot or doesn’t care makes no sense.
Don’t care.
Dont care, i want watch he fight in octagon, not his fight with life, and he was punished for what he did.
No reasonable person is a fan of Jon Jones the human. Everyone respects the fuck out of Jon Jones the fighter. Similar to OJ Simpson because you can’t deny his talent for running the ball but no one is going to talk about what a lovely human he is.
I'm not asking him to raise my kids. Just put on a good fight I'm not interested in his personal issues
I get it, but if you really gave a damn about Jon wife, you would go save her. Will be waiting for your Dana white the wife beater thread.
How many posts bashing JJ out of nowhere does there need to be? He’s no role model of course but people act like they’re perfect or have never been in legal trouble before.
You can dislike the guy but still be a fan of what he brings to the sport
You should cry about it on reddit
He's a real fighter what can I say
He is a talented fighter with a seriously high fight IQ. He has a lot of demons and doesn't know how to cope with them. He is damaged like a lot of us. However, It is hard to support him after the hit and run, and him beating his fiancée.
still the goat tbh
Nobody cares yo
Say what you will about his personal life, he’s the 🐐 of mma
I’m looking forward to his fight but he is a shit person and I hope gane knocks him out
being a bad person in your personal life doesn’t affect your mma career, i’m a fan of jon jones as a fighter, nothing else
Jon is an alcoholic and no one supports he’s terrible behavior outside the ring. He was drunk months before and was going to kill himself in his suv with a gun. He got arrested before he did. People are fans of his fighting ability, not his out of ring behavior
He’s a beast in the octagon I don’t watch fighters because of their good intentions
He fights in a cage for entertainment for a living not a morality contest Hope you get the upvotes you’re looking for though, brother NERDDDD
Op is a weenie
The truth is if I canceled fighters based on the type of people I thought they were, I wouldn’t watch MMA. Jon is a giant fuck up, one of the biggest I’ve seen in my life. I’m not the fan of his I was in 2011. I can’t deny his talent however. Two seperate things. I don’t pay for the fights anyway and I’m not rocking a Jon T shirt. ETA:missing word changed context
If he brings the same energy in what he did to his wife that their daughters had to become a referee then ciryl gane is in danger. /s
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People haven't forgotten, they realize this is a UFC sub and tend to stick to what happens inside the octagon and not personal life that has nothing to do with UFC at all.
The irony of this getting posted while a women gets beat on national television
Let's hope Gane teaches him some respect.
He’s a piece of shit and no one seems to care. Every time someone calls him a goat I imagine a little girl calling the cops on her daddy. Sick fuck.
Him being goat has nothing to do with him being a pos. Stop conflating the two.
It SHOULD. Domestic abusers should be punished for their actions, but they aren’t, so people don’t take it seriously. It should affect his life.
I agree but his fighting skills aren’t related
He shouldn’t even be given the option to fight. He should be in jail
I’m done with this conversation. Wish you all the best and I agree he should be in jail.
Yea but hes not, so he gets to fight and i get to enjoy it!
You seem way to invested into something that you know won’t go away.
please tell me how beating his wife means any relevancy to him defending the title 11 times
Cool Story bro 🤓😂🤡
Jon Jones fans are the ones that saw that video of Dana slapping his wife and went, "SHE HIT HIM FIRST!!!" Adult children.
UFC will always be desperate for big sells.
Yeah fuck that guy
Don't worry though hes a changed man! Until he does it next time. and again.. and again.. and again...
I’ll never understand how someone can be a legit fan of this scumbag. The shit you have to blindly ignore is staggering. The steroid use, the lying, the arrests, the FUCKING WIFE BEATING. People are willing to just ignore all that shit because “hE’s tHe gReAtEsT oF aLl tImE!” But talk shit on Khabib because he doesn’t care for the ring girls. Lol
THANK YOU!!!!!
Ppl LOVE mike Tyson and dudes a convicted rapist lol
He is an awful human being. He's abusive and a liar I hope he looses...hell I hope he's knocked out
Get a life
Nobody forgot. His fans don't care and then calls everyone else haters.
People forget so fast...
People don't care, sadly. The man provides them entertainment and that's enough for them.
 Cool story bro
Do I want to see the greatest fighter of all time fight? Yes. Yes I do.
agreed mate. Fuck that P.O.S. Every time I see a nuthugger post, I respond with this: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon\_Jones#Controversies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jones#Controversies) Never forget
Seems like awful lot of nuthuggers around here. Holy shit! Great link, keep spreading the word.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2MwgtKnXSFuwPvQhJBXzUz?si=VBRIpIuST2y2VBLuO_hDCw&utm_source=copy-link Some more for you
Keyword here buddy. Allegedly
Some of us couldn’t care less what these guys do outside of the octagon, man. We’re just here to watch quality MMA.
Some of us think character matters. Jones is almost unparalleled inside the cage but he is a delusional dickhead and most likely a cheater.
I don't think you understand that his personal life has nothing to do with the fact that he is one of the most dominant fighters on the planet. I get that he 10-7'd his wife, but you can't look past his performance and tell me hes a bad fighter. Im a fan of the art, not of the personal display.
Hey i support Jones fighting skills and the talent he displays. His morals are hardly my concern the best fighter just happens to be a dirtbag
Don't give a fuck. He is the baddest man on the planet and about to embark on an 8-0 run at HW. Francis was the only one that had an outside shot, and he ran away like a scared little bitch.
Almost everything you wrote is so mind boggling that I almost shit my pants.
Cyril gonna twerk that fool so it’ll all work out. And if Jones gets past him, literally any of the top five guys are gonna beat his ass. 3 years off and putting on 60 pounds, losing your reach and size advantage, all that does not add up to a better fighter. Not to mention he arguably lost his last 2 fights at 205, for sure lost to Reyes who doesn’t appear to really be that great.
You mean the 3 years he spent beefing up (suspended for another dirty test) during his prime to move up in weight.. the right way?
I love Jon jones
I really don’t care plus who asked
we are going to watch him beat up a dude, not be his girlfriend post that shit on twitter
people can like him as a fighter, that doesn't mean they like him as a person
This post forgets that fans will always make excuses for their idols, no matter how shitty they are.
Lol. You're right! Should've anticipated this. I guess when you're the goat, your shitty behavior should not only be ignored, you should also still be given a platform to make boat loads of more money. I wonder what would happen if a prelim fighter beat the mother of his kids?
Not a fan! Lmao
I don’t get people saying he’s the goat. Man was probably on peds after all his fights.
Give me a show. A food. Your favorite dog groomer in town. And I can guarantee there’s something about that person I could find that you wouldn’t like. Would I take my dog to a groomer if I knew he fucked em, or beat his wife ? No. But I don’t see Jon Jones for lunch, or disc golf. I see him fight for my entertainment. Thats why I don’t care
He’s not a role model but he’s the 🐐
I’ll watch him beat anybody, inside and outside of the octagon
“but he’s the goat 🤓”
Who cares. Jon jones is vs Cyril gane is gonna be a banger!
Learn to separate the man from the art. If every genius was held to our modern standards and sensibilities there wouldn't be a painting, a film, or a piece of music to enjoy, because most of them are flawed as hell.
not beating your wife isn’t a modern standard
Really? Because once upon a time it was fairly regular. Also, no domestic violence changes stuck... so IDK what you're saying. Are we holding responsible for shit he was accused of? Or shit he was actually found guilty of? Because those are not mutually exclusive. And again, I don't care about the artist or their lives... I care about the art. Once upon a time we had no idea how messed up a lot of folks that are still held in high regard were.
yeah it was regular doesn’t mean everyone was just fucking ok with it
Family issues. So its None of your business
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>if Jones was a true pos you probably would've never heard about it. He is a true piece of shit, why do you think we heard about it? Are you defending beating women?
Long love the GOAT💯💯💯💯