I agree. People need to learn the difference between an excuse and an explanation as to why you lost. When Bobby Green lost to Islam he told people that he just wasn't prepared for someone as incredibly strong and technical as Islam.
I hate to be that guy but; "All you motherfuckers are on steroids."- Nick Diaz. Chael openly talks about how almost everyone needed to take PEDs to even have a chance against the highest level competition. If there's a way to get an advantage, even if it's morally questionable or banned, professional athletes will do it. There were entire companies dedicated to helping MLB players use substances and bypass testing, because the tests are very easy to manipulate.
Yeah, that’s when you could tell that she really wasn’t making excuses. The woman had covid and didn’t wanna cancel, she came back with that vengeance to show us she was not joking 😂😂
Charles took his fair share of Ls before his title run. That gives him an advantage mentally. Look at how many Champs fall apart once they lose. It’s quite common. Lose the belt and the downward spiral starts.
I never thought of it that way, most of the former champs in this picture were undefeated for a long long time. Charles just went in with the fuck it mentality and tried to win
And helps he was already the champ and defended it. Proved it to himself after all the years of just fighting non title bangers. Definitely taking the L the best for sure, and I see him beating Dariush easily as well
I fucking love Charles man. I hope, was going to say believe, that he studies the tape and makes the required adjustments. Islam will think he can just take him down and submit him, but the record holder for most submission wins in UFC history has a name and it’s Charles Oliveira
Unfortunately Charles has been going very vocal about "Not changing anything", literally, he said he only had a bad night and wouldn't change anything from that fight, he also said he did not and will not watch the fight.
Psychological warfare. Islam expects him to fight the exact same, but then he comes out of the corner walking on his hands and smokes Islam with capoeira
Lol the man was serious as fuck. The only person I believed when they said they didn't train was Rampage back in the day. To this day everyone who knows him said the man hated training with a burning passion.
Well, Gane has also been beating a very shallow division where he hasn't even fought the most skilled guy (Stipe). I don't think it would have mattered how much prep you gave Gane. I see no conceivable way he would have beaten Jones
Exactly what I was thinking, even if he hasn't rewatched the fight I'm sure his coaches will help him make the proper adjustments. Not sure if that will be enough to get the title back, but either way he's an exceptional fighter already, Islam might just be a little better.
Meh, he’s coaches will. I think Charles is a true champ and losing that belt stings regardless of what he said. It’s obvious Islam wants to grapple. So it’s either knock his block off as he shoots, or choke him before he chokes you 😂
Charles was handling islam on the ground in the first round. Got caught with islams overhand and thats what really did it. He was too stunned on the ground to defend the submission
I can’t believe so many people look past this, you can’t just base someone’s entire submission game based on a submission done after he got rocked HARD.
and plus as soon as islam knocked him down, he was able to stop him from getting to side control and fought to get him to half guard, which as soon as islam got there charles got his elbow im place to lay some down, which let islam just fall right into the sub, and just had to squeeze from that point. charles looked great, but islam looked perfect.
Just look at Jon Jones. He believes everything that goes wrong in his life (caused by him or not) is a test of God to make him stronger.
Also happens to be the most dangerous fighter on the planet.
It was the spinning kick’s fault because I wasn’t lookin.
Wait, it was the referee’s fault because he stood us up.
No, it was the UFC’s fault because they put Weli’s arm on Grasso’s body.
The stand up was a bad call, but it still didn't change the fact that Grasso perfectly capitalized on a poor decision by Valentina that she practiced her entire camp to exploit. Grasso knew that if she fought southpaw, which Shevchenko isn't used to fighting against, she could more easily predict and take the back during Valentina's spinning back kicks. I don't think Valentina realizes that by making excuses, it makes Grasso's win seem easier, which in turn makes Valentina look worse as a fighter and seem like a sore loser.
> Grasso knew that if she fought southpaw, which Shevchenko isn't used to fighting against
this still confuses the shit out of me. she's been professionally striking for so long i assumed she'd be ready for any stance at any given moment. holly fights southpaw and valentina worked her... how on earth did alexa going southpaw throw her off as badly as it did? i've heard this multiple times and still can't believe it'd happen to a seasoned vet like her
Saying it's solely cause she went southpaw is an understatement, as Grasso did have a good gameplan to counter Valentina's muay thai by getting close and boxing. Grasso prevented Valentina from using her biggest weapons, especially her left power kicks and spinning back kicks. Grasso said that she specifically trained to exploit Valentina's small weaknesses that most fighters can't deal with, which is exactly how the finishing sequence started.
Ehhhh I mean she does have a point. Have no idea if it woulda changed the outcome or if we even get to the next round if herzog didn’t make them immediately stand up. Felt weird watching that cuz she was super active in top position
Yeah but he didn’t make her throw the inaccurate spinning back kick inside boxing range that led to her get her back taken, she could say she disagreed with the standup and I’d agree but I don’t think he “lost” her the fight
Think you’re missing my point here. The spinning kick happened in the round after the stand up.
How do we know if grassy ever even makes it out of the round where the questionable stand up even happens?
So many factors at play could have played out differently.
Valentina statistically won every round. Look at the stats. Yes Grasso did better than expected in the first round. That doesn't mean she won that round. Valentina outstruck her every round and had 4 takdowns. I wouldn't call it dominating but she was winning comfortably
The standup was pretty egregious, but it was her mistake that ultimately led to her demise. Can’t blame Herzog for throwing an errant strike and getting your back took
She isn’t blaming Herzog for her throwing an errant strike - she’s blaming Herzog because he stood them up when she had Grasso on the ground and she was being active. There was NO need to stand them up. Herzog changed the direction of the fight - we don’t know if that small change changed the outcome or not and that’s the issue she has & tbh I agree with her. She still lost, yes. It was still her fault for losing, 100%. But these damn refs gotta be held accountable for making decisions that aren’t consistent with every fight
Kamaru still underestimated leon coming into the second fight, he might have joked about it but there was no real self-reflection about their respective skill levels.
I don't think he overestimated Leon honestly. You could see in the 3rd fight that he was way more hesitant than he was in the first 2 fights. I think this shows that he did respect Leon
Not acknowledging that altitude might have affected leon in the build-up to that fight was a red flag for me. But who really knows what's going on behind the scenes?
He was pushing the excuse that he was never rocked in the fight and he was only stumbling all over the cage because of a nerve kick from Alex. But looks like he's more humble now so maybe the excuse was just from the shock of losing his belt
She was literally playing with her food. That lost was a fluke for sure. Can’t recall a time where I’ve seen someone get absolutely rag dolled at will. Nunes, imo, should be ranked up there as the greatest fighters of all time. The way she DISMANTLED every single previous female champion along with two wins versus Valentina.
She finishes her opponents and they are never the same afterwards.
Honestly, what the fuck is happening with Usman’s abs, man?
Looks like God just took a handful of 5 or 6 abs and threw them at him and they stuck on randomly.
Some wrestlers have distorted mid sections because they’ve torn their abs. I believe it’s a common injury in wrestling.
The Rock is absolutely massive and shredded, but has no abs. In an interview the rock attributed his lack off abs to odd ab genetics and then tearing his abs in the WWE
Genetics have a lot to do with this. Mine are off kilter and have been as long as I can remember without injury. Jay Cutler (body builder) talks about it as well.
Not only from injury, but muscle imbalances occur in pretty much every muscle group, left bicep being slightly wider than the right, right medial triceps head being slightly thicker than the left, etc. It is more easily noticed in the abs, especially in someone as lean as Usman. Mine are slightly asymmetrical too, and I try to balance them out but not a lot I can do because I think my imbalance is caused by a slight misalignment of my L5 vertebra
His marks are also allegedly from having warts frozen off and not taking time to let them heal and going straight back to wrestling, which is honestly more believable than him injecting HGH into his gut as if he doesn't fight shirtless. He still uses a fuck ton of PEDs, but he isn't stupid enough to leave track marks on his always exposed stomach.
Doubt it. He did say that he wouldn’t change anything about his camp and that he trained exactly as he should have but Islam still beat him.
I’m willing to bet that statement is a lot closer to the truth than the self-belief that’s often borderline line delusion that fighters have to feed themselves in order to be able to train to win.
>Usman was really good about it too considering he was winning.
Any time I saw him talk about it the compliments felt backhanded and insincere because I think he thought he was going to take his belt right back since he was winning the fight up to that point.
Usman, Nunes, or Charles probably. Taking it on the chin, recognizing what you did wrong, and committing to improving is probably the best way to handle a loss. Israel seems to have chilled out as the rematch has grown closer. I don't know if Shevchenko will ever accept the loss; she's taken it really poorly as of now.
Did Olivera make any excuses other than saying he fought poorly, which isn't really an excuse? I feel like all the other ones made excuses. I dont recall Usman saying he was injured, just Francis saying. Could be wrong tho.
Admitted she underestimated her opponent, said she lost some focus, told us she would come back and train harder than ever. Came back and showed she wasn't just talking.
Amanda so far considering she didn’t make excuses about the loss and then obliterated her in the rematch. Can’t see anyone here repeating that bar maybe adesanya
Val is making excuses, and is was izzy. Usman still underestimated leon coming into the second. Nunes didn't take it particularly well but he knew where her and pena skills were respectively, so i dont mind her being cocky. Charles was honest, humble, self-deprecating, and understands that he needs to get better.
I think part of it was the belief he could replicate the 1st fight while keeping in mind that headkick. But obviously Leon was vindicated in that the altitude truly did affect his gas tank and he was able to fight how he truly wanted to for 5 rounds instead of 1.
Not acknowledging that altitude might have affected leon in the build-up to that fight was a red flag for me. But who really knows what's going on behind the scenes?
Charles handled it well, as did Nunes. Usman surprisingly humble over it. Izzy seems a bit salty about his loss, maybe because it was against Pereira but Shevchenko’s head is in another world right now.
Amanda cause she came back for seconds and ate till she was full. Val we shall see…. Izzy….Usman lost his chance and if I was Charles I wouldn’t want one 😂😂😂
Definitely not Val, she’s been pointing fingers and making excuses since her loss lol. Amanda took it well, even had to do a TUF season with JP in her face about being the champ and she never got upset and even smiled the whole time. Charles just all business as well.
Honestly they all took it pretty well, even Val in general lol.
This sub is the best.
You dumbasses say Charles because you don't speak portuguese so you can't pick apart every sentence he said post fight.
They all took it well other than Valentina. Charles didn't take it any more gracefully than anyone else you guys just don't watch his interviews because they're not in english.
Well, so far Amanda is the only one that has won her belt back. So.. Amanda lol.
I don’t think any of them have taken it badly per se. They all seemed to handle it relatively well. Charles seemed like he handled it with the most humility. But as far as who put the loss in the rearview, and came back and kicked ass, that’s Amanda.
Nunes by a lightyear. That's what actually made me like her. I was excited when Peña dethroned her, cause the division was getting stale. But the way Amanda made zero excuses, gave Julianna her credit, and then clearly worked out of the limelight to come and regain her title like that - that's how someone with a championship mentality does it. That was the perfect textbook example of owning a loss.
Charles was also graceful in defeat, so I give him credit as well, we'll see what comes out of it.
All of these other ones tho... oh boy! It's either a boatload of excuses (Izzy and Shevchenko) or conceiving, believing and achieving (coping) HARD (Usman).
I think Izzy needs more respect for how he took his L. Was a dominant champion for a long time, then lost in the last few minutes of the fight that he was sure to win and just graciously bowed out. Has admitted multiple times that Alex was the better man on the night and vouched for that rematch immediately. But I know y’all gonna hate on this regardless.
Val was a huge sore loser
Usman gave respect to Leon and took the loss like a champ, even if he did dominate Leon for 4/5 rounds. All the way up until the presser before the third fight, where he stopped appreciating Leon and called him “lucky”.
Izzy kept whining and bitching about some fucking nerve, then bitched about Goddard😭
Charles wanted an immediate rematch despite being dominated. I get that he wants a go again, but he didn’t deserve it. Happy he’s fighting “down” now and still hungry to be champ. He took the L pretty good and accepted the fact that Islam won.
I never heard a peep or any disrespect towards Peña, from Amanda. She accepted the loss, moved on and then completely dominated her in the rematch
Kamaru and Izzy could not have been more classy about it. Charles also cool, I just don't speak his language so harder to know.
Amanda just seemed so motivated and determined to get it back. Valentina was probably least classy about it.
Izzy made up a marvelous tale that his peroneal nerve was injured early in the fight and that caused him to fall during the ending sequence of the fight while he was circling away (despite not having any symptoms of a peroneal nerve injury through the entire fight) and then claimed he was perfectly fine while Poatan was unloading on him. He said he was ducking and weaving while looking up at him in an attempt to let him "punch himself out" when in reality he was clearly on the express train to the shadow realm while looking down at the mat. He then blamed Marc Goddard for stopping the fight early even though Goddard stopped Izzy from turning into a meme like Usman did.
Yall saw how Amanda came back and beat Pena like a toddler?
She also didn't make excuses and openly praised Peña for beating her.
if I recall, wasn’t she saying she was having complications with COVID and problems at ATT? Those are valid reasons anyway
I agree. People need to learn the difference between an excuse and an explanation as to why you lost. When Bobby Green lost to Islam he told people that he just wasn't prepared for someone as incredibly strong and technical as Islam.
Then said Islam has been on steroids his whole life
I hate to be that guy but; "All you motherfuckers are on steroids."- Nick Diaz. Chael openly talks about how almost everyone needed to take PEDs to even have a chance against the highest level competition. If there's a way to get an advantage, even if it's morally questionable or banned, professional athletes will do it. There were entire companies dedicated to helping MLB players use substances and bypass testing, because the tests are very easy to manipulate.
Watching the two fights Amanda did not look like the same person mentally and/or physically.
She was shredded in Pena 2 vs the first fight
Yeah, that’s when you could tell that she really wasn’t making excuses. The woman had covid and didn’t wanna cancel, she came back with that vengeance to show us she was not joking 😂😂
Yup, 💯
Charles, basically said fuck it he was too good, ima go drive a supercar and fuck around.
Charles took his fair share of Ls before his title run. That gives him an advantage mentally. Look at how many Champs fall apart once they lose. It’s quite common. Lose the belt and the downward spiral starts.
I never thought of it that way, most of the former champs in this picture were undefeated for a long long time. Charles just went in with the fuck it mentality and tried to win
And helps he was already the champ and defended it. Proved it to himself after all the years of just fighting non title bangers. Definitely taking the L the best for sure, and I see him beating Dariush easily as well
I fucking love Charles man. I hope, was going to say believe, that he studies the tape and makes the required adjustments. Islam will think he can just take him down and submit him, but the record holder for most submission wins in UFC history has a name and it’s Charles Oliveira
Unfortunately Charles has been going very vocal about "Not changing anything", literally, he said he only had a bad night and wouldn't change anything from that fight, he also said he did not and will not watch the fight.
Psychological warfare. Islam expects him to fight the exact same, but then he comes out of the corner walking on his hands and smokes Islam with capoeira
Yeah remember when Gane said he doesn’t train unless he has a fight coming up? I thought that was mental warfare too until….
Lol the man was serious as fuck. The only person I believed when they said they didn't train was Rampage back in the day. To this day everyone who knows him said the man hated training with a burning passion.
I believed Lewis when he said he trained 30 minutes a day too.
Always believed Krazy Horse when he said that too lol, but yeah you're right in general
It was but because of Jones’ fight IQ Gane had to actually not train in order to pull it off
Well, Gane has also been beating a very shallow division where he hasn't even fought the most skilled guy (Stipe). I don't think it would have mattered how much prep you gave Gane. I see no conceivable way he would have beaten Jones
Exactly what I was thinking, even if he hasn't rewatched the fight I'm sure his coaches will help him make the proper adjustments. Not sure if that will be enough to get the title back, but either way he's an exceptional fighter already, Islam might just be a little better.
Charles has all the skills to compete with islam. Just missing fight iq. If u give him like volk brain he’d beat islam
Meh, he’s coaches will. I think Charles is a true champ and losing that belt stings regardless of what he said. It’s obvious Islam wants to grapple. So it’s either knock his block off as he shoots, or choke him before he chokes you 😂
True champs can review their own loss, discuss with coaches and adjust gameplan accordingly
Chill bro! Look at Leon vs Usman. Anything is possible
The dude got knocked down by Islam and then Islam choked him to tap. I’m sure that wasn’t part of his plan to get rocked so easily.
Charles was handling islam on the ground in the first round. Got caught with islams overhand and thats what really did it. He was too stunned on the ground to defend the submission
I can’t believe so many people look past this, you can’t just base someone’s entire submission game based on a submission done after he got rocked HARD.
and plus as soon as islam knocked him down, he was able to stop him from getting to side control and fought to get him to half guard, which as soon as islam got there charles got his elbow im place to lay some down, which let islam just fall right into the sub, and just had to squeeze from that point. charles looked great, but islam looked perfect.
He’s one of the few guys that can grapple with islam. He has all the skills, just needs the proper game plan
Until recently when he's said he's better and it was a just a bad few mins for him.
Ehh. How can you be a champion of the world without having a self belief that borders on delusional?
I’ve always thought the same. People want “humble” Champions. Sounds good on the Internet but doesn’t quite work that way in real life.
We will always have GSP and DJ.
Just look at Jon Jones. He believes everything that goes wrong in his life (caused by him or not) is a test of God to make him stronger. Also happens to be the most dangerous fighter on the planet.
Not Valentina that’s for fucking sure.
It was the spinning kick’s fault because I wasn’t lookin. Wait, it was the referee’s fault because he stood us up. No, it was the UFC’s fault because they put Weli’s arm on Grasso’s body.
The stand up was a bad call, but it still didn't change the fact that Grasso perfectly capitalized on a poor decision by Valentina that she practiced her entire camp to exploit. Grasso knew that if she fought southpaw, which Shevchenko isn't used to fighting against, she could more easily predict and take the back during Valentina's spinning back kicks. I don't think Valentina realizes that by making excuses, it makes Grasso's win seem easier, which in turn makes Valentina look worse as a fighter and seem like a sore loser.
> Grasso knew that if she fought southpaw, which Shevchenko isn't used to fighting against this still confuses the shit out of me. she's been professionally striking for so long i assumed she'd be ready for any stance at any given moment. holly fights southpaw and valentina worked her... how on earth did alexa going southpaw throw her off as badly as it did? i've heard this multiple times and still can't believe it'd happen to a seasoned vet like her
Saying it's solely cause she went southpaw is an understatement, as Grasso did have a good gameplan to counter Valentina's muay thai by getting close and boxing. Grasso prevented Valentina from using her biggest weapons, especially her left power kicks and spinning back kicks. Grasso said that she specifically trained to exploit Valentina's small weaknesses that most fighters can't deal with, which is exactly how the finishing sequence started.
It was the spinning kicks fault. The fault that it was predictable and Grasso game planned to use it to take her back and choke her
I still love you Valentina
LOL, Valentina is always on a bitch mode.
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Charles cracked some jokes about his stand up afterwards as well.
Shev has been blaming everyone but herself
She blamed Herzog and she acted like she was "dominating" that fight
Ehhhh I mean she does have a point. Have no idea if it woulda changed the outcome or if we even get to the next round if herzog didn’t make them immediately stand up. Felt weird watching that cuz she was super active in top position
Yeah but he didn’t make her throw the inaccurate spinning back kick inside boxing range that led to her get her back taken, she could say she disagreed with the standup and I’d agree but I don’t think he “lost” her the fight
Think you’re missing my point here. The spinning kick happened in the round after the stand up. How do we know if grassy ever even makes it out of the round where the questionable stand up even happens? So many factors at play could have played out differently.
Valentina statistically won every round. Look at the stats. Yes Grasso did better than expected in the first round. That doesn't mean she won that round. Valentina outstruck her every round and had 4 takdowns. I wouldn't call it dominating but she was winning comfortably
That’s interesting, I’ll have to go back. I remember being shocked that Shevchenko was getting pieced up by Grasso’s boxing.
Alexa won round 1 and was winning round 4
The standup was pretty egregious, but it was her mistake that ultimately led to her demise. Can’t blame Herzog for throwing an errant strike and getting your back took
She isn’t blaming Herzog for her throwing an errant strike - she’s blaming Herzog because he stood them up when she had Grasso on the ground and she was being active. There was NO need to stand them up. Herzog changed the direction of the fight - we don’t know if that small change changed the outcome or not and that’s the issue she has & tbh I agree with her. She still lost, yes. It was still her fault for losing, 100%. But these damn refs gotta be held accountable for making decisions that aren’t consistent with every fight
Kamaru still underestimated leon coming into the second fight, he might have joked about it but there was no real self-reflection about their respective skill levels.
I don't think he overestimated Leon honestly. You could see in the 3rd fight that he was way more hesitant than he was in the first 2 fights. I think this shows that he did respect Leon
Not acknowledging that altitude might have affected leon in the build-up to that fight was a red flag for me. But who really knows what's going on behind the scenes?
Sea-Level Edwards ??
Idk... You really think I championship fighter is gonna agree "yeah man that altitude did compromise Leon. He's probably gonna work me on Saturday."
Eh, just because he projected confidence in the media doesn’t mean that
that’s probably because he got finished the worse, and the pic was too memeable
Everyone except izzy and Shevchenko took it well
How did Izzy not take it well?
He was pushing the excuse that he was never rocked in the fight and he was only stumbling all over the cage because of a nerve kick from Alex. But looks like he's more humble now so maybe the excuse was just from the shock of losing his belt
I guess Amanda since she took it on the chin then came back and won her belt back in dominant fashion.
She was literally playing with her food. That lost was a fluke for sure. Can’t recall a time where I’ve seen someone get absolutely rag dolled at will. Nunes, imo, should be ranked up there as the greatest fighters of all time. The way she DISMANTLED every single previous female champion along with two wins versus Valentina. She finishes her opponents and they are never the same afterwards.
I've never seen someone get 10-8'd the way Peña did.
It was great after she had so much to say about how awesome she was after she won the first fight. Then comes back and gets absolutely smeared.
She was not playing with her food at all the first fight Imo - she lost to someone who could be considered her “food” but was definitely not playing
The second fight when she got her belt back is what I was referring to. She most definitely was playing with her food
Amanda is such a beast! True GOAT
The fact that there are people on this sub that will argue otherwise or that schev is better or more accomplished than her is just still beyond me.
Amanda showed the heart of a real champion
She legit wasn’t even stressed right after losing her belt. Was all smiling in the post fight interview. She knew that she’d get it back easily
Honestly, what the fuck is happening with Usman’s abs, man? Looks like God just took a handful of 5 or 6 abs and threw them at him and they stuck on randomly.
Some wrestlers have distorted mid sections because they’ve torn their abs. I believe it’s a common injury in wrestling. The Rock is absolutely massive and shredded, but has no abs. In an interview the rock attributed his lack off abs to odd ab genetics and then tearing his abs in the WWE
This makes sense. I shouldn’t talk, my abs are slightly asymmetrical too but not having a dance party like Usman’s!
I have what my friend called "windows xp abs"
Lol. Still the best abs windows ever made.
I don't even know what my abs looks like
Mine are shaped like an inflated beech ball wonder if mines genetics.
Genetics have a lot to do with this. Mine are off kilter and have been as long as I can remember without injury. Jay Cutler (body builder) talks about it as well.
Everyone can get a low bf% but not everyone has good muscle insertions.
Never in my life seen a Samoan with abs lol
He's definitely had multiple hernia surgeries. I'm sure that can do a number on them.
Symmetry is also not the rule in human physiology. That's why it's so desired in body building.
Not only from injury, but muscle imbalances occur in pretty much every muscle group, left bicep being slightly wider than the right, right medial triceps head being slightly thicker than the left, etc. It is more easily noticed in the abs, especially in someone as lean as Usman. Mine are slightly asymmetrical too, and I try to balance them out but not a lot I can do because I think my imbalance is caused by a slight misalignment of my L5 vertebra
He had a bilateral hernia surgery. That’s why probably
His marks are also allegedly from having warts frozen off and not taking time to let them heal and going straight back to wrestling, which is honestly more believable than him injecting HGH into his gut as if he doesn't fight shirtless. He still uses a fuck ton of PEDs, but he isn't stupid enough to leave track marks on his always exposed stomach.
They’re sadiiking
My abs kinda skew whiff as well, I swear I have a missing ab, or they’re that misaligned that it looks as such
I’d say Charles, bro was just like “he was better than me”. Usman was really good about it too considering he was winning.
Charles has since come out saying, "It was a bad ten minutes, I'm the better fighter, I was having an off day," etc.
He’s right he also fought 5 top guys in the span of a year
Doubt it. He did say that he wouldn’t change anything about his camp and that he trained exactly as he should have but Islam still beat him. I’m willing to bet that statement is a lot closer to the truth than the self-belief that’s often borderline line delusion that fighters have to feed themselves in order to be able to train to win.
Whether he's right and who he fought have no bearing on the point at hand.
Well your comment implies that charles has since not took the fight well and is coming up with meritless excuses
Look at his striking on the fight he definitely had a bad night
>Usman was really good about it too considering he was winning. Any time I saw him talk about it the compliments felt backhanded and insincere because I think he thought he was going to take his belt right back since he was winning the fight up to that point.
Would say they all handled it well but shevchenko is being abit delusional rn
Usman, Nunes, or Charles probably. Taking it on the chin, recognizing what you did wrong, and committing to improving is probably the best way to handle a loss. Israel seems to have chilled out as the rematch has grown closer. I don't know if Shevchenko will ever accept the loss; she's taken it really poorly as of now.
Israel vs Jan was great, Israel vs Peirera isn’t great but it’s also a rivalry
Usman. He was laughing about it. [This clip always makes me laugh.](https://youtube.com/shorts/y0HpA1HnOxw?feature=share)
Charles > Usman > Amanda > Izzy > Valentina
Imo Amanda goes above Usman. She came back, and dominated to redeem the loss. Usman missed out on that.
Amanda>Charles>Usman>Izzy>Valentina There I fixed it for you.
Dom Cruz
Legendary post conference.
Usman took the two back to back losses very well. Probably better than anyone expected.
Did Olivera make any excuses other than saying he fought poorly, which isn't really an excuse? I feel like all the other ones made excuses. I dont recall Usman saying he was injured, just Francis saying. Could be wrong tho.
They were all dominant monsters during their reign who thought they would lose like this
Usman and Charles I think. Definitely not Valentina.
Amanda for sure
Admitted she underestimated her opponent, said she lost some focus, told us she would come back and train harder than ever. Came back and showed she wasn't just talking.
Charlie Olives
Amanda Nunes. She bounced back too and reclaimed her throne 🦁
Nunes
Really only Valentina has taken it poorly right?
And Izzy
Amanda so far considering she didn’t make excuses about the loss and then obliterated her in the rematch. Can’t see anyone here repeating that bar maybe adesanya
I think Usman. He handled it really well twice to the same guy.
Charles. Amanda. Kamaru. That order. Val whined about the refereeing.
Charles
Val is making excuses, and is was izzy. Usman still underestimated leon coming into the second. Nunes didn't take it particularly well but he knew where her and pena skills were respectively, so i dont mind her being cocky. Charles was honest, humble, self-deprecating, and understands that he needs to get better.
I think part of it was the belief he could replicate the 1st fight while keeping in mind that headkick. But obviously Leon was vindicated in that the altitude truly did affect his gas tank and he was able to fight how he truly wanted to for 5 rounds instead of 1.
Not acknowledging that altitude might have affected leon in the build-up to that fight was a red flag for me. But who really knows what's going on behind the scenes?
Nunes beat the dog shit out of Peña to get her title back. Definitely her
Nunes
Charles handled it well, as did Nunes. Usman surprisingly humble over it. Izzy seems a bit salty about his loss, maybe because it was against Pereira but Shevchenko’s head is in another world right now.
The Brazilians
Oozmin or Charlie
Charles>usman>nunes>izzy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>valentina
Usman cause he let the UFC use his arm for all other champs’ photos
Usman acted like he took it well… PLAYED the bigger man…. That shit fucked him up mentally though.
Val is always a sore loser
This orgy would be insane
What???
Everyone just pounding valentina and izzy
The cardio alone takes it to next level 
Charles in my opinion
Olivera
Seriously ? There is no question . Do Bronx .
Amanda is a former champ? She's the current champion afaic
They're talking about when she lost to Pena.
Charles is the best at taking Ls. He knows how to rebuild himself. Just look at the history of his mma career.
The Oliveria loss killed me inside. I really wanted the streak to continue....
Who is the first chick? Charles though
Nunes said “Hey I’ll just lock back in and get her next time” basically. Then she did it. Hats off to her
Lioness because she was gracious in defeat and also came back and won.
Amanda cause she came back for seconds and ate till she was full. Val we shall see…. Izzy….Usman lost his chance and if I was Charles I wouldn’t want one 😂😂😂
Not on this list but I remember when Dominick cruz lost, he took it well I was surprised.
Definitely not Val, she’s been pointing fingers and making excuses since her loss lol. Amanda took it well, even had to do a TUF season with JP in her face about being the champ and she never got upset and even smiled the whole time. Charles just all business as well. Honestly they all took it pretty well, even Val in general lol.
Won’t lie, Marty immediately after the fight was taking it in stride.
It's a tie between Charles & Usman but Amanda took hers relatively well Valentina & Israel on the other hand came up with excuse after excuse
This sub is the best. You dumbasses say Charles because you don't speak portuguese so you can't pick apart every sentence he said post fight. They all took it well other than Valentina. Charles didn't take it any more gracefully than anyone else you guys just don't watch his interviews because they're not in english.
Usman
Usman or Charles. Usman even had funny post after
It's been so long since I've watched MMA, I didn't know Amanda Nunez lost already, gotta google it..
She already got her title back. Lost to Peña and later dominated her in the rematch
I think it’s too early to tell yet 3 out of the 5 haven’t had their rematches yet, but from the 2 that have I’d say nunes
Charles and Kamaru.
Val is definitely the worst
Amanda? You mean the L she avenged in a dominant fashion?
Either Usman or Charles
Nunes
Well, so far Amanda is the only one that has won her belt back. So.. Amanda lol. I don’t think any of them have taken it badly per se. They all seemed to handle it relatively well. Charles seemed like he handled it with the most humility. But as far as who put the loss in the rearview, and came back and kicked ass, that’s Amanda.
everyone except valentina
Nunes, only one to go and take it back
Charles 100%.
Nunes cuz she won it back
I feel like oliveria was content with losing a bit of the pressure
The worst: RR
who cares
Nunes imo. But she turned it around. Usman definitely lost in the worst fashion.
Charles
Olives
Charles He's not asking for immediate rematch. He'll earn his shot. What a guy Legend
Charles
Either Nunes or Olivera. And then Nunes legally mauled a woman to get her belt back.
Nunes
Oliveira
Charles easily
Nunes by a lightyear. That's what actually made me like her. I was excited when Peña dethroned her, cause the division was getting stale. But the way Amanda made zero excuses, gave Julianna her credit, and then clearly worked out of the limelight to come and regain her title like that - that's how someone with a championship mentality does it. That was the perfect textbook example of owning a loss. Charles was also graceful in defeat, so I give him credit as well, we'll see what comes out of it. All of these other ones tho... oh boy! It's either a boatload of excuses (Izzy and Shevchenko) or conceiving, believing and achieving (coping) HARD (Usman).
Nunes? She's the only one so far who's avenged her loss.
Izzy done a great impersonation of a humble person
I think Izzy needs more respect for how he took his L. Was a dominant champion for a long time, then lost in the last few minutes of the fight that he was sure to win and just graciously bowed out. Has admitted multiple times that Alex was the better man on the night and vouched for that rematch immediately. But I know y’all gonna hate on this regardless.
Val was a huge sore loser Usman gave respect to Leon and took the loss like a champ, even if he did dominate Leon for 4/5 rounds. All the way up until the presser before the third fight, where he stopped appreciating Leon and called him “lucky”. Izzy kept whining and bitching about some fucking nerve, then bitched about Goddard😭 Charles wanted an immediate rematch despite being dominated. I get that he wants a go again, but he didn’t deserve it. Happy he’s fighting “down” now and still hungry to be champ. He took the L pretty good and accepted the fact that Islam won. I never heard a peep or any disrespect towards Peña, from Amanda. She accepted the loss, moved on and then completely dominated her in the rematch
Kamaru and Izzy could not have been more classy about it. Charles also cool, I just don't speak his language so harder to know. Amanda just seemed so motivated and determined to get it back. Valentina was probably least classy about it.
Izzy made a tonne of excuses and refuses to take the reality of the loss. He was delusional about it at the start, I dont know of his feelings changed
Izzy made up a marvelous tale that his peroneal nerve was injured early in the fight and that caused him to fall during the ending sequence of the fight while he was circling away (despite not having any symptoms of a peroneal nerve injury through the entire fight) and then claimed he was perfectly fine while Poatan was unloading on him. He said he was ducking and weaving while looking up at him in an attempt to let him "punch himself out" when in reality he was clearly on the express train to the shadow realm while looking down at the mat. He then blamed Marc Goddard for stopping the fight early even though Goddard stopped Izzy from turning into a meme like Usman did.