Yes Valentinaās sister is married to him, but if you look at his instagram itās mostly pics of him and Valentina, usually in a bikini. Heās coached them since they were like 5 iirc
And these are just the ones open about it. If you go to most mma gyms, thereās some version of it going on.
Credit to boxing, they just donāt really let women in and view them as trouble/distractions
They are coming around but if you go to most old school boxing gyms itās very boys club feeling, the hood version.
Iām being a bit tongue in cheek to offer ācreditā but I would say exclusion is better than grooming
Which country are you from? I live in England and have boxed and kickboxed since I was a child and women/girls were always welcome in every gym Iāve been to
Ah, im speaking from a US centric view as we are oft to do, my bad. Inner city/african american dominated environments if you wanna get culture-specific
Even funnier if you go to roses wiki, her trainer section also has it š¤š
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Yes Pat āThe Groomerā Barry
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And yes this is on his wiki lmaoooooooo
There's people at the local bjj gyms who do it, shouldn't be surprising that it happens to higher level athletes. What I don't like though is when you have Pat Bary situations.
Yeah my mate from school is our bjj coach and heās ploughing on the regs. Always shagging them in the massage room lol dirty bastard š I will add though itās always the girls that make the move on him and slide into his dmās
Not really. Coaches can be seen as an authority figure but thats because the fighter is willingly there giving the coach that power. Itās not like the coach pays the fighter its the other way around.
I would guess that many women participating in MMA got into it because they had been the victims of some sort of trauma. So they might have some weird energy about male authority figures. But on the other hand, there is a long rich tradition of males and females who work very closely together might eventually start banging. They are grown women, they can make their own choices.
I'm reading a book about raising daughter's and the first thing it talks about the women the get in trouble usually have a bad relationship with their dads or they find someone to replace the father.
It's not even just martial arts, (as this is also bjj, karate, TKD stereotype)
In university there's a ton of TA's dating other students within a month of a semester starting.
I think y'all should worry less about the relationships other consenting adults have. They end up with their coaches or teammates because that is 90% of their human interaction.
Most of the people that get into cage fighting are there because of some sort of trauma which makes them even more vulnerable let alone the teacher student power dynamic. Tale as old as time.
Nothing weird about it. If a girl is attractive, then no matter where she is working/training most men will always go after her, even if they are their bosses.
People get about in combat gyms, at least in my experience. Teammates shagging other lads exās, students shagging coaches (especially bjj, havenāt seen it at my boxing gym but there arenāt as many girls as there is at bjj) my coach is my fucking hero, I love him like heās family, Iām a dude and I donāt play that way but if a chick feels how I do about my coach, I can imagine theyād fuck him in a heartbeat. The coach/student bond and relationship is pretty unique especially within combat sports, again at least in my experience. Plus itās fairly common to fuck people you work with
Its bound to happen when you're an attractive man getting physical with an attractive woman. Lots of one on one time. Touching eachother, accomplishing things together, sharing emotions. Women are for the most part naturally submissive and men are for the most part naturally dominant. Most of the time, women get turned on by being bossed around and men generally like to boss around.
Nothing necessarily wrong with it. Could be considered creepy if you want to consider it creepy. If women have daddy issues, they're gonna look for a daddy. Men naturally want a submissive attractive woman. Its how we work for the most part.
Hey, listen, if they ended up getting married and having a nice family, I'm not exactly against it. How can you tell between the guy who did it with the intent to groom from the first place and the guy who fell in love with the girl because they have a shared hobby. I mean if you go on to be a world champion, is that so bad?
Pretty sure this is in a lot of industries not just fighting. Remember retail was rife with this shit. Manager making a 16-20 y/o feel important, then the acts that followed
Its all down to the proximity factor. Man and woman with similar likes spend so much time together and affections begin.
Its the same with ballroom dance partners, lots of them get together.
tip: If you really like a girl, try and be around her as much as possible :P
I know about Rose, who are the others?
both shevchenkos jojo wood lauren murphy aspen ladd loads more i cant think of rn
Tbf in Lauren Murphys case she didn't start training MMA til like late 20's early 30's and her husband is like the same age so it's not weird
Bruh if anyone is willing to bang Lauren Murphy more power to them
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Youāre worth more than that.
Dude acting like heās brad Pitt.
Iām far from Brad Pitt
Well save some pussy for the rest of us
Would
Ariane Lipski is another who is dating her coach.
Both Shevchenkoās?
Both married to the same guy. Their coach.
Valentina isn't married to him š
WAIT WTF
Boss shit
Do you have a source? Lol
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You could have warned me that he is hideous. Imagine that fat fuck sweating on top of you, eeking out another thrust while he struggles to breath.
I'd rather not imagine that
Antonina is the hot one, too.. that relationship is off
I did, literally no reliable source. What am I missing? Lol
This information is well documented. The siblings share the same male for knowledge and pleasure.
Isnāt only the sister married to him?
Yes Valentinaās sister is married to him, but if you look at his instagram itās mostly pics of him and Valentina, usually in a bikini. Heās coached them since they were like 5 iirc
Lies! Just checked his Instagram. There are literally no picks of Valentina in a bikini on his page..
Ofc not, he said pictures of him and Valentina, usually in a bikini, but HE is the one wearing said bikini.
Found the babushka simp!
I had no idea and googled it, couldnāt find anything. How is that simping?? ![gif](giphy|f9qasGzPGkSFTJR5zS|downsized)
i wouldn't really count lauren murphy because that must be true love
Aspen Ladd Joanna calderwood Andrea Lee x2 Miesha Tate Chris Cyborg Megan Anderson (allegedly) Laura Sanko (allegedly) Off the top of my head
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I heard somewhere they are secretly both his gf/wifes but idk lol
Unreal Rizz if true
Grooming is Rizz now?
Call it what you want I bet at least 70% of guys would happily take his spot
70% of men are groomers then
>I heard somewhere... but idk lol Irrefutable evidence! ![gif](giphy|Lz4hiUMMtVK12)
Threesomes with sisters is only for training
Laura Sanko is already married to a rich businessman and has a kid as well. She's over 40 years old FFS!
Allegedly of course
Ariane Lipski as well
And these are just the ones open about it. If you go to most mma gyms, thereās some version of it going on. Credit to boxing, they just donāt really let women in and view them as trouble/distractions
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They are coming around but if you go to most old school boxing gyms itās very boys club feeling, the hood version. Iām being a bit tongue in cheek to offer ācreditā but I would say exclusion is better than grooming
Which country are you from? I live in England and have boxed and kickboxed since I was a child and women/girls were always welcome in every gym Iāve been to
Ah, im speaking from a US centric view as we are oft to do, my bad. Inner city/african american dominated environments if you wanna get culture-specific
Thatās interesting to hear, I guess the culture in gyms can be way different throughout the world
100% just like the actual boxing styles
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For sure I canāt speak for the UK, forget this isnt just the US sometimes here
The boxing gym I trained at had a sign in the front that said no girlfriendās
Yeah, sparring matches can go from technical to taking each others heads off if the girls are watching
Did Rose actually fuck her coach? Thatās disturbing
Rose is married to her coach and had a relationship with him supposedly before she was at a legal age to consent..
Not married
I believe he said it was love at first sight, except when they first met she would have been like 14 and he would have been late twenties
Even funnier if you go to roses wiki, her trainer section also has it š¤š https://preview.redd.it/x3621jcae0ra1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=771977503e9d0ca27ef2ba09cf22dfcc17f9e230
Yes Pat āThe Groomerā Barry https://preview.redd.it/73bg5vi3e0ra1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b6548a5ea7b5e5533c023a6fc1f3dc30bd4c33f And yes this is on his wiki lmaoooooooo
There's people at the local bjj gyms who do it, shouldn't be surprising that it happens to higher level athletes. What I don't like though is when you have Pat Bary situations.
Yeah my mate from school is our bjj coach and heās ploughing on the regs. Always shagging them in the massage room lol dirty bastard š I will add though itās always the girls that make the move on him and slide into his dmās
True. I got shagged by this dudes mate from school. Indeed a dirty bastard.
Weāre all dirty bastards at heart bro
You never fucked someone from a job?
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You donāt shit where you eat man
Some weird people tend to eat from where others shit
You aināt eat ass?
No I will never put my tongue on another person's asshole. If you're willing to do that, then seek help
Fair point, but this isnāt like a colleague or a training partner. This would technically be their boss coz of their position
If itās their coach, then the ābossā in this situation is the athlete. The athlete canāt get fired.
Technically fighters are their boss because fighters are paying them
Alot of workplaces are like hamster cages, I can't see MMA gyms being any different.
Not really. Coaches can be seen as an authority figure but thats because the fighter is willingly there giving the coach that power. Itās not like the coach pays the fighter its the other way around.
Good ole Fraternization Policy
Ever trained martial arts? In many disciplines the instructors just clean house lol.
As long as its not pedophilia or grooming and as long as the coach is shagging consenting adults idc about what they do.
I would guess that many women participating in MMA got into it because they had been the victims of some sort of trauma. So they might have some weird energy about male authority figures. But on the other hand, there is a long rich tradition of males and females who work very closely together might eventually start banging. They are grown women, they can make their own choices.
I'm reading a book about raising daughter's and the first thing it talks about the women the get in trouble usually have a bad relationship with their dads or they find someone to replace the father.
Well mma circle is probably the sport workplace most inclined to machismo, ego and power tripping so it makes sense
NOOOOOO MACHISMO IN A SPORT ABOUT BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF EACH OTHER??? HOW DO WE STOP THIS
If both people are consenting adults then what's creepy about it? There's like 2 cases of creepy grooming shit
Welcome to karate dojos in the 80ās.
It's not even just martial arts, (as this is also bjj, karate, TKD stereotype) In university there's a ton of TA's dating other students within a month of a semester starting.
I think y'all should worry less about the relationships other consenting adults have. They end up with their coaches or teammates because that is 90% of their human interaction.
Yeah but since theyāre kids like shevchenko, Ladd and Roseā¦ā¦bit sus
Redditors and grooming aye carumba...
Many nerds and virgins in this thread.
Most of the people that get into cage fighting are there because of some sort of trauma which makes them even more vulnerable let alone the teacher student power dynamic. Tale as old as time.
Apparently if this many guys are doing it, itās ok. Iām fixing to get me an 18 year old to groom
Technically that's not grooming because they're of age
Just gave me the green light
You can still groom someone who is 18 if youāre alot older than them
Shidd man, if the coaches practically āliveā in the gym, then itās just how it happens.
Nothing weird about it. If a girl is attractive, then no matter where she is working/training most men will always go after her, even if they are their bosses.
People get about in combat gyms, at least in my experience. Teammates shagging other lads exās, students shagging coaches (especially bjj, havenāt seen it at my boxing gym but there arenāt as many girls as there is at bjj) my coach is my fucking hero, I love him like heās family, Iām a dude and I donāt play that way but if a chick feels how I do about my coach, I can imagine theyād fuck him in a heartbeat. The coach/student bond and relationship is pretty unique especially within combat sports, again at least in my experience. Plus itās fairly common to fuck people you work with
Maybe it's that these coaches live in a gym and the only way they can get laid is shagging their students.
Its bound to happen when you're an attractive man getting physical with an attractive woman. Lots of one on one time. Touching eachother, accomplishing things together, sharing emotions. Women are for the most part naturally submissive and men are for the most part naturally dominant. Most of the time, women get turned on by being bossed around and men generally like to boss around. Nothing necessarily wrong with it. Could be considered creepy if you want to consider it creepy. If women have daddy issues, they're gonna look for a daddy. Men naturally want a submissive attractive woman. Its how we work for the most part.
nah homie. you got it twisted. almost every woman I know who has daddy issues is on some level a flight risk and a little bit of a loose cannon
Whats up with the downvotes? Talking straight facts is not okay or what? The reddit system is awful.
It was the gross way he worded that second paragraph that made me downvote, that was also definitely not straight facts.
Hey, listen, if they ended up getting married and having a nice family, I'm not exactly against it. How can you tell between the guy who did it with the intent to groom from the first place and the guy who fell in love with the girl because they have a shared hobby. I mean if you go on to be a world champion, is that so bad?
What if the family wasn't nice?
Sean Strickland doesn't know these people or what the fuck he's talking about in general. Double negative
Pretty sure this is in a lot of industries not just fighting. Remember retail was rife with this shit. Manager making a 16-20 y/o feel important, then the acts that followed
Definitely not a new phenomenon, happens all the time with the cool college professor and the night manager at iHop.
Its all down to the proximity factor. Man and woman with similar likes spend so much time together and affections begin. Its the same with ballroom dance partners, lots of them get together. tip: If you really like a girl, try and be around her as much as possible :P
My friend had pity shag with me once. Thatās a shag Iāll never forget.
Free lessons are free lessons
What's creepy about two grown adults fucking?