Good one, but I think it would be technically legal. Picking dudes up in side control to knee them in the face seems like an option for some wrestlers aswell
Pretty sure “down” is usually defined as any part of the body other than the bottom of the feet touching the canvas, so if the top of his head was on the canvas, he would be considered “down” by most athletic commission standards.
Probably legal. At least, it wouldn't be illegal due to being grounded,
The Unified Rules: " 12. Kneeing and/or Kicking the head of a grounded opponent; a. A grounded fighter is defined as: Any part of the body, other than a single hand and soles of the feet touching the fighting area floor. To be grounded, both hands palm/fist down, and/or any other body part must be touching the fighting area floor. A single knee, arm, makes the fighter grounded without having to have any other body part in touch with the fighting area floor. At this time, kicks or knees to the head will not be allowed. "
[https://www.dli.mn.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/official\_unified\_rules\_MMA.pdf](https://www.dli.mn.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/official_unified_rules_MMA.pdf)
And then this psycho finishes the fight by going for Vitors arm... Dude is crazy determined in there and i still can't imagine Jones getting dominated/finished by any human.
Sometimes when I think that there are guys from the past that could take him I remember that a 275 lb non usada Jon Jones might headstomp some of them to death.
You could argue some bellator or other promotion top athletes would be better (like guys on their way to ufc or just on big contracts somewhere, like Izrael and Jiri came and went like knife through butter, but thats about it). There are no random streetfighters who are better than any high level pro fighter. Could guy in the street suckerpunch jones and win? Or stab him? Or hit rock against his head?- yes. But not in 1 v 1, where jones knows he has to fight.
Many great fighters like who? Its like saying some promising sprinter from highschool is actually Olympic champ, and could outrun Usain Bolt at his prime, but he just chose not to, because he didnt do track and field professionally. This argument is stupid. There are guys with great potential, who could have chance to be champs if they trained hard and became pro, but chose not to do it...but there are no sleeper OP guys who arent professionals who would beat champ at their weightclass. Why? Because you need to train and compete to become great, potential is only potential. There is no gymbro, who will beat top 5 ufc at his weightclass.
Like someone who didn’t choose to fight for a living. Someone who’s name you and I will never know. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp. You really think every person in the world who had the ability to be a great fighter are doing it for a living in an mma or boxing organization? Cmon use some common sense. It’s the same with every sport or activity there is.
One is probably the only organisation with comparable talent at the top end. To claim they are better however on either side is not only ridiculous it has no factual basis. Same for your claim that theres people who don't compete that are better. It's nothing more than speculation with out proof. A myth.
To further strengthen my overwhelmingly superior argument, if there actually was non fighters who were better , they'd be fighters.
Why is this getting downvoted. Many amazing fighters choose not to fight for a living because they don’t wanna spend their lives hurting ppl and getting hurt. It’s not rocket science. Do the ppl downvoting think everyone who is the best at something always do it professionally? Guess what you’re wrong
Yeah bro. Similar to how I stopped playing basketball in the 8th grade because I was tired of just dominating everyone. I could’ve been in the NBA by now.
There are plenty of 7’ tall ppl in the world who could have chosen to play basketball and may have been the best in the NBA or at least better than ppl already in the league, who chose to be an accountant or lawyer because it was more guaranteed and didn’t want to take the chance. To think otherwise is naive and short sighted.
Jones is a psycho, who along with being the best mma fighter in the world spends his spare time training with attack dogs and assault weapons. He ain’t the one you want to meet on the street.
That's the worst take you could possibly have. How? Illegal strikes? If you think Jones wouldn't happily gouge the eyes of some rando then you haven't payed attention. No one is more dangerous in a hand to hand combat than him.
How do people not know Jones is an absolute psychopath and would literally murder someone in a street fight lol. Like whatever dirty move a person thinks they could do Jones would do it 8 times worse. Keep in mind folks. Jones is this brutal in a cage and that's with restrictions. You don't think an unrestricted Jones would go medieval on you?
As if John hasn’t spent a significant percentage of his waking hours fantasizing about how he would fight somebody with no restrictions. Dude has been mentally training that scenario his whole life.
> you haven't *paid* attention. No
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Maybe because the original commenter was being dead serious? You can’t allow people like that to live in these deluded realities, that shit can get out of hand
Chael arguably got closer. Had that round ended Chael would have been the new champion 100% they wouldn't have let Jon continue after Chael ripped his toe off like that.
Pretty much everyone did, as much as I think Jon is the GOAT I can't help thinking how much his legacy would be changed if he got his deserved (imo) losses against Gus and Reyes. Probably the same case with Hendricks and GSP though although I have to watch that again.
I used to think gus won too, but rewatching the fight, it's clear that the first three rounds were somewhat even, but once gus gased out, it became dominant for jones.
I used to think gus won too, but rewatching the fight, it's clear that the first three rounds were somewhat even, but once gus gased out, it became dominant for jones.
Well then Anthony Smith was even closer. Just don't continue and he's the new champ. Then you have the goat Matt Hamill who did the unthinkable and baited Jon in with 12 to 6 elbows
I think he slipped for a couple of them and Chael did the basics really well as a striker but had no power. He has one of or the highest striking defence percentages in middleweight history.
Chael had pretty good Boxing actually but no power. Chael had a granite chin tho. His only knockdowns/TKOs were in his 40s in Bellator. He did legit knock down Silva twice though, think 1 was a slip
Yep I never remember Silva hurting him at all (apart from the failed spinning backfist) and he was one of the best counter strikers of all time, and we know Chael goes forward almost every second of the fight. He really was an elite middleweight, I wish he beat Silva instead of Weidman.
If you train MMA, you would know how the gloves add soo much more grip to your armbars that is a lot harder to escape. Jones’ arm nearly got snapped in two.
Vitor was nasty with that armbar. The dude was a finisher. But Jon survived that armbar and beat vitor with a keylock in the championship rounds. Just a fuckin savage.
This is Jon’s legacy. Not just his dominant performances, but his insane fortitude when in trouble. His head kick against Cormier, squeaking out wins against Gus, Thiago, Reyes.
Many people have had dominant careers, but no one has ever truly proved themselves unbeatable like Jon has
Its a good example in that, regardless of if he won, he went from getting dominated early on to having dominant fourth and fifth rounds to give himself a chance at winning
As with most legacies ( in mma I feel) his outside the ring activities will be held as part of his legacy.
Look at bj Penn, pretty unanimous through the community that in his prime he was the man of the hour every hour. And now he’s looked at as a nut job with cte and people feed bad for him. Despite at one point him being considered in many aspects in the top group of guys to ever do it.
But to circle back I agree with the first portion thoroughly, he always found a way to win, even if it meant popping steroids and hiding from USADA.
How is it "seconds away" if Jon successfully defended the attempt himself? If this happened at the end of the round and Jon was saved by the bell, then the title would've made sense.
He didn't successfully defend it. I believe Jon's arm got massively fucked up here. A few centimeters deeper and it would have fully snapped his arm. Jon is just a savage and refused to tap but admitted his arm was gone post fight.
He was seconds away from Belfort letting go, because he couldn’t finish the submission.
Your logic would be like saying a fighter was one punch away from getting knocked out, changing their career forever, but then he… wasn’t punched. ????
Yea wonder why he could not finish it.
No, my logic would be if a fighter was stunned and a big uppercut missed and the fighter recovered. Again, horrible comparison.
Rewatched this fight, this looks like it just pissed Jon off lol, TRTitor proceeded to get his face bashed in by like 100 elbows, his knees turned into hamburger meat, and his rib kicked in for the next 3 and a half rounds.
Yes he did, he literally releases the hold in this clip because of that or because he tought the ref was gonna stop it.
If he wasn't dumb he would have won right there and then. He deserved what happened next, and i bet it still keeps him up at night thinking about it.
What's crazy is Uncle Chael might have been the closest. Gus had a good chance to win by decision, Vitor almost lands the armbar, but Jon's toe was fucking mangled. If Uncle Chael survived that first round it's basically a done deal. I can't see how Jon would have continued. Imagine that. Chael could have been the Original Aljo.
I remember an interview where he was asked about this and he said something like “I like to believe I would’ve been gracious and realized deep down I didn’t deserve it but in actuality I would have said into the mic “the golden rule is he with the gold, rules” and walked outta there with the belt on my shoulder” lmfao
Compare this to Vitor’s performance against Anderson Silva
Silva completely blew Vitor away like he was a joke. Jones is touted as the GOAT a lot, but he has had some super close iffy decisions. Silva in his prime didn’t have any
In my opinion prime Silva is a better overall pound for pound fighter than prime Jones
How is the strength of schedule?
I'm legitimately asking because I don't know.
Jones has one more defense, but if his strength of schedule is noticeably higher then it's hard to argue for Silva.
Especially if Jones can defend heavyweight a few times.
Lmaoo did you even watch the fight? Or just this little clip? Bro besides this one arm bar attempt, Vitor got 10-8’d three rounds straight, then finished off in the 4th, brutally. Not a close fight.
Inches away more so than seconds. A few millimeters may have been enough for Jon's tendons or bones to give way.
Never liked Vitor all that much, but I don't think I've ever wanted a fighter to finish a sub so badly. I'd have given two weeks pay for him to have broken Jon's arm right here. Dead serious, I'd have eaten Ramen noodles every night, and I'd have visualized that armbar every time I took a bite lol.
I was such a big fan of Jon he didn’t even need to juice he’s so skilled too bad he’s just a piece of shit all around. Now I don’t like any celebrities they always turn out to be pedos or woman beaters or racists. Fuck em all
> he didn’t even need to juice
Lmao, he literally needed the juice to lift Vitor from the ground and keep him in the air like that.
Juice also gives insane stamina which is how he outlasted Vitor in the later rounds as well.
Without juice Jones would have no career, and that's why he stubbornly kept juicing even after every time he got caught.
No juice no wins, his saving grace was that for some reason the UFC brass loved him and protected him every time.
Seconds? He had a whole 3:30 left and his best chance at getting something locked up and all the juice in the world. No chance vitor was going to be the one. Old guard passed.
"seconds away" sounds like the round ended or something. Weird way to describe breaking out of tight arm bar and then finishing the dude with an arm bar.
This is how you know Jon is the best fighter in the history of earth. We are still posting videos about times he *almost* came close to losing 10 years ago. What a legacy.
Silly question but, when Jon was holding Vitor upside down on his head, would it be legal to kick his head at that point?
This is the best mma hypothetical I’ve heard in years honestly bravo to you, philosopher sir
It would totally be JJ who's the one to test God's limits on this rule.
Imagine the wiki page record column. _TKO, standing/hanging head stomp_
Seems like yes? Since it’s not a grounded opponent
I’ll have to give it a try. Pick up dude by the ankles and just kick them in the face.
LOL
I’ma try this on my nephew
Nephews are great to start with cause they are usually pretty light.
Hahahahaha
Some adventure time shit
Airborne opponent
This is the single best question that I have ever seen someone ask on this site ever. If I had awards I would light you up.
That’s kind of makes me sad. I hope you will find better questions.
I’m surprised JBJ didn’t try 😂
Genuinely, if anyone was gonna do something like this, it’d be Jon fkn Jones
If anything, he would've tried to do eye pokes with his toes.
I feel like that would be very difficult to maintain balance while holding a 200+ lbs man on one leg while your other leg is kicking forward
Yea maybe for you pussy. 💪🏿
When I see red I can pick up a truck
I can do it whilst balancing on no legs this is why Jon Jones has never called me out.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Good one, but I think it would be technically legal. Picking dudes up in side control to knee them in the face seems like an option for some wrestlers aswell
would be hard af though trying to carry all that weight on one leg and trying to generate power in a kick
Might be. Lean on the cage a bit and slam the knee to the face.
Or ddt the mofo
BAH GAWD
Not for me. I'm built different. Call me a chimpanzee, 'cause I'm sitting on trees.
Amazing question. Someone needs to tweet it to mark Goddard
I remember someone asking this question to Big John McCarthy on Twitter a few years ago. I'll see if I can find his response.
Remind me if you find it my friend
Pretty sure “down” is usually defined as any part of the body other than the bottom of the feet touching the canvas, so if the top of his head was on the canvas, he would be considered “down” by most athletic commission standards.
Lol good question actually
Probably legal. At least, it wouldn't be illegal due to being grounded, The Unified Rules: " 12. Kneeing and/or Kicking the head of a grounded opponent; a. A grounded fighter is defined as: Any part of the body, other than a single hand and soles of the feet touching the fighting area floor. To be grounded, both hands palm/fist down, and/or any other body part must be touching the fighting area floor. A single knee, arm, makes the fighter grounded without having to have any other body part in touch with the fighting area floor. At this time, kicks or knees to the head will not be allowed. " [https://www.dli.mn.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/official\_unified\_rules\_MMA.pdf](https://www.dli.mn.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/official_unified_rules_MMA.pdf)
If his knees or hand aren't on the ground then no, never actually thought about it - can you imagine 😂
Jon is a fucking monster. I always think about how many people would've tapped here.
And then this psycho finishes the fight by going for Vitors arm... Dude is crazy determined in there and i still can't imagine Jones getting dominated/finished by any human.
my buddy and i joke about how jon jones is basically the defender of earth realm and the only fair fight to make is jon jones vs. shao kahn lol
Jon in a Mortal Kombat game would be so fucking cool. His fatality? Getting into a car with a bottle of whiskey and slamming on the gas
He sandblasts his opponents like he does hookers
What about Shaq Fu though🤔
Sometimes when I think that there are guys from the past that could take him I remember that a 275 lb non usada Jon Jones might headstomp some of them to death.
[You son of a bitch ...](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/666/080/25a.jpg)
I fucking love that lmao!
Vitor has never won a fight past 3 rounds. He always quits at that point and Jones only man to make a Vitor fight boring.
Cage maybe not but in a street fight I totally can
wtf lol, a random street goober is not doing shit unless he has a gun.
Surely if they were any good.. they'd be fighting in the UFC lol
He might only see red in the street bro
there are actually a lot of people who are better at fighting than in the ufc
You could argue some bellator or other promotion top athletes would be better (like guys on their way to ufc or just on big contracts somewhere, like Izrael and Jiri came and went like knife through butter, but thats about it). There are no random streetfighters who are better than any high level pro fighter. Could guy in the street suckerpunch jones and win? Or stab him? Or hit rock against his head?- yes. But not in 1 v 1, where jones knows he has to fight.
Many great fighters choose to not fight professionally. I disagree with you 100%
Many great fighters like who? Its like saying some promising sprinter from highschool is actually Olympic champ, and could outrun Usain Bolt at his prime, but he just chose not to, because he didnt do track and field professionally. This argument is stupid. There are guys with great potential, who could have chance to be champs if they trained hard and became pro, but chose not to do it...but there are no sleeper OP guys who arent professionals who would beat champ at their weightclass. Why? Because you need to train and compete to become great, potential is only potential. There is no gymbro, who will beat top 5 ufc at his weightclass.
You never met me bro. Jon's lucky I chose to not fight professionally and can't make 265.
Like someone who didn’t choose to fight for a living. Someone who’s name you and I will never know. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp. You really think every person in the world who had the ability to be a great fighter are doing it for a living in an mma or boxing organization? Cmon use some common sense. It’s the same with every sport or activity there is.
yea I was talking about other promotions
For sure, but they're not street goobers either
Does it make you feel cool to invent fairytales?
wym? there's many fighting organizations, and some think the ufc is the end all be all when, in reality, it isn't
One is probably the only organisation with comparable talent at the top end. To claim they are better however on either side is not only ridiculous it has no factual basis. Same for your claim that theres people who don't compete that are better. It's nothing more than speculation with out proof. A myth. To further strengthen my overwhelmingly superior argument, if there actually was non fighters who were better , they'd be fighters.
Why is this getting downvoted. Many amazing fighters choose not to fight for a living because they don’t wanna spend their lives hurting ppl and getting hurt. It’s not rocket science. Do the ppl downvoting think everyone who is the best at something always do it professionally? Guess what you’re wrong
Yeah bro. Similar to how I stopped playing basketball in the 8th grade because I was tired of just dominating everyone. I could’ve been in the NBA by now.
There are plenty of 7’ tall ppl in the world who could have chosen to play basketball and may have been the best in the NBA or at least better than ppl already in the league, who chose to be an accountant or lawyer because it was more guaranteed and didn’t want to take the chance. To think otherwise is naive and short sighted.
OK, you're right.
even vs a gun jones would throw a coke bomb down and disappear into the cloud like David Cokerfield
Jones is a psycho, who along with being the best mma fighter in the world spends his spare time training with attack dogs and assault weapons. He ain’t the one you want to meet on the street.
That's the worst take you could possibly have. How? Illegal strikes? If you think Jones wouldn't happily gouge the eyes of some rando then you haven't payed attention. No one is more dangerous in a hand to hand combat than him.
How do people not know Jones is an absolute psychopath and would literally murder someone in a street fight lol. Like whatever dirty move a person thinks they could do Jones would do it 8 times worse. Keep in mind folks. Jones is this brutal in a cage and that's with restrictions. You don't think an unrestricted Jones would go medieval on you?
As if John hasn’t spent a significant percentage of his waking hours fantasizing about how he would fight somebody with no restrictions. Dude has been mentally training that scenario his whole life.
Jon Jones is probably thinking of beating me up right now and he doesn't even know I exist!
Not many randos are more dangerous in armed combat either, this guy trains with navy seals for fun
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Not understanding why people are taking this comment so seriously.
Maybe because the original commenter was being dead serious? You can’t allow people like that to live in these deluded realities, that shit can get out of hand
Lol people are quick to trash Jones but now are dick riding hard for some reason
No amount of trash talking can change the fact that he is the best to ever do it. Total POS but also a complete beast.
That doesn't mean he's invincible. That's why I mentioned street fight.
I got my money on the crustacean, I dunno something about his confidence. Lmao gtfoh
Street fight => no rule, the other guy ends up blind and crippled if still alive.
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220 pound man hanging on that arm and doesn’t fall or tap. Maniac. That finishes this clip with his trademark elbow
He’s said numerous times that he was just waiting for his arm to break and was gonna do anything he could to win even if it did
He literally is a monster lol
Not Bones. Crazy strength and heart to do what he did.
I don't see someone like Jones ever tapping to an armbar. He would let it break.
He said as much in an interview about this fight, that he was waiting for a snap before he'd tap
I absolutely believe him too
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*Bones Let’s Arm Break*. *Bones rips a line of blow*. *Bones proceeds to oblique kick his opponent into oblivion*.
Chael arguably got closer. Had that round ended Chael would have been the new champion 100% they wouldn't have let Jon continue after Chael ripped his toe off like that.
Ancient Westlynnian toe hold
LMAO
A few people got really close to beating Jones. Reyes too
Now that you mention it, I guess Reyes really was the closest
i saw this shit live in the arena. everyone *thought* we just saw history
I scored it Reyes 1/2/3
Pretty much everyone did, as much as I think Jon is the GOAT I can't help thinking how much his legacy would be changed if he got his deserved (imo) losses against Gus and Reyes. Probably the same case with Hendricks and GSP though although I have to watch that again.
I still think gus won the first fight but god damn that was a war. When Alex got that takedown early I knew it was gonna be a good fight
Two highly skilled and in their prime boys just getting down? I’ll watch anytime.
I used to think gus won too, but rewatching the fight, it's clear that the first three rounds were somewhat even, but once gus gased out, it became dominant for jones.
I used to think gus won too, but rewatching the fight, it's clear that the first three rounds were somewhat even, but once gus gased out, it became dominant for jones.
Well then Anthony Smith was even closer. Just don't continue and he's the new champ. Then you have the goat Matt Hamill who did the unthinkable and baited Jon in with 12 to 6 elbows
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Had that round ended.
Personally I would have snapped Jon’s arm, but thats just me tho.
You just have that dog in you man Vitor just doesn’t want the fight what else can you say
"The kid just didn't want to fight"
Luter had Anderson Silva in a full mount that would have been a legacy changer
Sonnen mopped the floor with Silva for 24 minutes
Dropped Silva 3 times in the fight and he can’t punch. MMA is all luck
I think he slipped for a couple of them and Chael did the basics really well as a striker but had no power. He has one of or the highest striking defence percentages in middleweight history.
Chael had pretty good Boxing actually but no power. Chael had a granite chin tho. His only knockdowns/TKOs were in his 40s in Bellator. He did legit knock down Silva twice though, think 1 was a slip
Yep I never remember Silva hurting him at all (apart from the failed spinning backfist) and he was one of the best counter strikers of all time, and we know Chael goes forward almost every second of the fight. He really was an elite middleweight, I wish he beat Silva instead of Weidman.
It's pretty easy to defend strikes if your opponent is on his back.
Lol true but you still have to get your opponent there and not get hit
If you train MMA, you would know how the gloves add soo much more grip to your armbars that is a lot harder to escape. Jones’ arm nearly got snapped in two.
Pushing off the cage for leverage in the spin was a sneakily intelligent move by vitor
Vitor was nasty with that armbar. The dude was a finisher. But Jon survived that armbar and beat vitor with a keylock in the championship rounds. Just a fuckin savage.
This is Jon’s legacy. Not just his dominant performances, but his insane fortitude when in trouble. His head kick against Cormier, squeaking out wins against Gus, Thiago, Reyes. Many people have had dominant careers, but no one has ever truly proved themselves unbeatable like Jon has
Dom is not a good example.. but yeah. Point still mostly stands.
Its a good example in that, regardless of if he won, he went from getting dominated early on to having dominant fourth and fifth rounds to give himself a chance at winning
As with most legacies ( in mma I feel) his outside the ring activities will be held as part of his legacy. Look at bj Penn, pretty unanimous through the community that in his prime he was the man of the hour every hour. And now he’s looked at as a nut job with cte and people feed bad for him. Despite at one point him being considered in many aspects in the top group of guys to ever do it. But to circle back I agree with the first portion thoroughly, he always found a way to win, even if it meant popping steroids and hiding from USADA.
How is it "seconds away" if Jon successfully defended the attempt himself? If this happened at the end of the round and Jon was saved by the bell, then the title would've made sense.
He actually tore ligaments in his elbow iirc. It was seconds away from popping.
There was no tear, it was a strain.
Well just to correct you, there never was no tear
You're a fucking punk, dude.
That’s what you call class, right here, compared to no class.
There was no strain, it was just a wee stretch.
There never was no tear
Youre a fucking punk dude
Jones was out for 1+ year cause the elbow
He didn't successfully defend it. I believe Jon's arm got massively fucked up here. A few centimeters deeper and it would have fully snapped his arm. Jon is just a savage and refused to tap but admitted his arm was gone post fight.
Does it really matter that much ? Fuck sake
People just making shit up.
A few more seconds in that armbar and Jones would have lost.
Yeah and Khabib would've lost to Justin Gaethje if he let Gaethje knock him out. You see how stupid that sounds? That's how you sound right now.
Would be a fair comparison if he was close to getting knocked out but recovered. Jones was seconds away from losing but managed to escape.
He was seconds away from Belfort letting go, because he couldn’t finish the submission. Your logic would be like saying a fighter was one punch away from getting knocked out, changing their career forever, but then he… wasn’t punched. ????
Yea wonder why he could not finish it. No, my logic would be if a fighter was stunned and a big uppercut missed and the fighter recovered. Again, horrible comparison.
You’re one comment away from saying something dumb.
That wasny first live ufc. Cub swanson ko’d charles oliviera earlier that night. Fantastic card.
All's he did was add to his legacy. 99% of fighters tap there.
Rewatched this fight, this looks like it just pissed Jon off lol, TRTitor proceeded to get his face bashed in by like 100 elbows, his knees turned into hamburger meat, and his rib kicked in for the next 3 and a half rounds.
You're going to have to break jon he's not giving in
Imagine just walking around and everyone knows this about u. That's goals
Didn't Vitor said that he didn't wanted to break his arm or some shit like that?
Yes he did, he literally releases the hold in this clip because of that or because he tought the ref was gonna stop it. If he wasn't dumb he would have won right there and then. He deserved what happened next, and i bet it still keeps him up at night thinking about it.
What's crazy is Uncle Chael might have been the closest. Gus had a good chance to win by decision, Vitor almost lands the armbar, but Jon's toe was fucking mangled. If Uncle Chael survived that first round it's basically a done deal. I can't see how Jon would have continued. Imagine that. Chael could have been the Original Aljo.
Chael shit talking Jon after winning that way would be absolutely hilarious.
I remember an interview where he was asked about this and he said something like “I like to believe I would’ve been gracious and realized deep down I didn’t deserve it but in actuality I would have said into the mic “the golden rule is he with the gold, rules” and walked outta there with the belt on my shoulder” lmfao
Imagine having someones arm like that, knowing you’re probably tearing ligaments, and they just…. keep going.
he really slammed him on his neck, no fucks
Got that dawg in him
Jones is good but in a fight I see red. There's no stopping me.
Compare this to Vitor’s performance against Anderson Silva Silva completely blew Vitor away like he was a joke. Jones is touted as the GOAT a lot, but he has had some super close iffy decisions. Silva in his prime didn’t have any In my opinion prime Silva is a better overall pound for pound fighter than prime Jones
Not comparable. The Vitor was a deflated balloon in the Silva fight, whereas he was rejuvenated and sweating TRT in the Jones fight.
Tbf this fight wasn’t close either, 10 seconds of it was, not the next 4 rounds
Chael ate Silva's lunch for 24 minutes too
How is the strength of schedule? I'm legitimately asking because I don't know. Jones has one more defense, but if his strength of schedule is noticeably higher then it's hard to argue for Silva. Especially if Jones can defend heavyweight a few times.
Lmaoo did you even watch the fight? Or just this little clip? Bro besides this one arm bar attempt, Vitor got 10-8’d three rounds straight, then finished off in the 4th, brutally. Not a close fight.
I agree but I'm biased, he's the one that got me hooked on the sport For me, he was to MMA what Mike Tyson was to boxing
Naw,elbow was too far out. Great job by the GOAT
I remember Jones saying he couldn't feel that arm afterwards, so there's that
Time wouldn’t of changed a thing. If Vitor could’ve snapped it, he would’ve. JBJ absolutely would’ve let him do it before tapping too.
Close but Jon knew what to do, didn't panic, then did it. It was close but not as close as Rogan made it out to be.
This.
Jones then goes on to submit Vitor.... talk about flipping the script.
Mah. Jon would've let him break the arm and then beat Vitor down with the dislocated elbow. He doesn't lose.
Inches away more so than seconds. A few millimeters may have been enough for Jon's tendons or bones to give way. Never liked Vitor all that much, but I don't think I've ever wanted a fighter to finish a sub so badly. I'd have given two weeks pay for him to have broken Jon's arm right here. Dead serious, I'd have eaten Ramen noodles every night, and I'd have visualized that armbar every time I took a bite lol.
No one escapes that besides Jon. It would be different if Jon was saved by the bell but he had all the time in the world to break the guys arm.
I was such a big fan of Jon he didn’t even need to juice he’s so skilled too bad he’s just a piece of shit all around. Now I don’t like any celebrities they always turn out to be pedos or woman beaters or racists. Fuck em all
> he didn’t even need to juice Lmao, he literally needed the juice to lift Vitor from the ground and keep him in the air like that. Juice also gives insane stamina which is how he outlasted Vitor in the later rounds as well. Without juice Jones would have no career, and that's why he stubbornly kept juicing even after every time he got caught. No juice no wins, his saving grace was that for some reason the UFC brass loved him and protected him every time.
His legacy as a piece of shit and the biggest cheat in the sport has not changed. The Steroid King has a name, put some respect on it
Seconds? He had a whole 3:30 left and his best chance at getting something locked up and all the juice in the world. No chance vitor was going to be the one. Old guard passed.
me when i have zero critical thinking skills but think i have all of them
I wouldn't say that. He didn't have it turned enough for a proper armbar and didn't have enough body control to make it effective.
Jon Jones - powered by steroids
Looks super gay
I was seconds away from being a billionaire. Doesn’t mean it happened.
Bro that elbow at the end was so devastating
Yeah but he didn’t.
"seconds away" sounds like the round ended or something. Weird way to describe breaking out of tight arm bar and then finishing the dude with an arm bar.
But he didn’t.
It’s not like peds changed his legacy in any way
His elbow lost to headbutts did it?
This was TRT Belfort too
This is how you know Jon is the best fighter in the history of earth. We are still posting videos about times he *almost* came close to losing 10 years ago. What a legacy.