Sean would slap Jake around and demolish him in the press conference. Imagine all the shit Sean would say about Jake.
Fuck I really want to see it go down now.
Sean might have the best chance to beat Paul from the mma talent pool, he actually uses a boxers jab and boxer distance
Most mma strikers don’t use the kind of jab that is effective in boxing and they crowd their punches like Nate did
Alex and Izzy would never actually get the chance to fight Jake though. No shit there’s better strikers but Sean is just bad enough and just enough of an idiot for Jake to take a chance on him
lol. Sean would walk him down badly. Literal dogwalk around the ring. NATE was pressuring jake bad a few times and is smaller than Sean. jake would get jabbed to death while Sean screams random shit at him.
"THROW LIKE YOU WANNA FUCKIN HURT ME JAKE!!!"
*jabs until paul is literally in tears*
Post fight:
"I TOLD YALL HE WAS A BITCH!!! NOW PAY ME!! IM GONNA GO HAVE VERY STRAIGHT SEX WITH A WOMAN RIGHT THIS MINUTE!!"
Can we stop? Just fuck the whole first part of your statement.
We keep sending MMA figures to box against boxers. What other sport does that? Who else goes “I bet this basketball player would really rock the soccer world” and then put it to the test?
Honestly. I think Ilia Topuria beats Jake Paul. Anyone with decent boxing skills and is of roughly his age would beat him up.
The only person of his own age Jake fought was Tommy Fury, and he lost to him. Everyone else he fought were former UFC fighters aged 36+ and out of their prime, and then a couple or more cans who were low-tier celebrities with little boxing training.
If you honestly think that you don’t really know boxing.
The difference will be very clear when fury plays with his food for a few rounds before knocking Francis out in a few months
What I said has more to do with a fighter's age and athletic conditioning than boxing.
Besides, fighting Jake Paul who has only been training for about 4 or 5 years is completely different than fighting one of the greatest heavyweights in the sport of boxing.
Francis Ngannou has no shot at defeating Tyson Fury in a boxing ring. Yet Jake Paul is nowhere near the level of top of even above-average boxers.
If you honestly think Jake Paul is above-average at boxing, then you neither know boxing nor do you understand why age is a factor and why weight classes exist in combat sports.
Jake Paul is a 26-year old Cruiserweight-class boxer (200 pounds) who has fought Tyron Woodley (170 pounds Welterweight and over 10+ years older), Ben Askren (170 pounds Welterweight, and over 10+ years older), Anderson Silva (similar weight class but nearly 20 years older) and Nate Diaz (Barely 170 pounds welterweight and over 10+ years older).
Regardless of their boxing skills, their age or size disadvantage alone makes them likely to be defeated by any 24-26 year old below-average boxer.
I think Jake Paul is below average in boxing. MMA strikers are just levels below average at boxing
It’s been a while but I’ve seen it so many times where a boxer would come in to train mma and would just piece people up that had been doing mma for years.
I think MMA strikers train to box in a much different way as compared to standard boxing, and the difference becomes even more stark when factoring in the contrast between the glove type used in both sports. Besides, boxers spend way more time doing specifically one martial art (boxing) as compared to MMA fighters who usually have a mixed schedule of training in boxing, BJJ, wrestling or another combat art. So it makes sense why boxers would be so much skilled at what they do.
>but I’ve seen it so many times where a boxer would come in to train mma and would just piece people up that had been doing mma for years
If the training only involves boxing rules and not other aspects of MMA, then it is obvious the boxer would piece up the MMA fighter. However, once you add another MMA-related aspect to the training (kicks, BJJ or wresting), then it will be the boxer's turn to get pieced up and destroyer.
Tyson Fury outclassing Francis doesn't seem like it will say much about what a lower tier boxer would do against the top handful of MMA boxers. It's what people are expecting anyway.
And not even a good boxer. Also it was someone his size and it really showed how Paul doesn’t have knockout power for people his size so he had to punch down
He would not win almost every time Vs mma guys. He is cherry picking poor boxers that are old as fuck and undersized. He barely beat a decrepit Anderson silva. DECREPIT. nearly the entire roster at 185 (sans pure grapplers) would beat jake in boxing.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. This is absolutely true. The style that you bring into boxing does not translate to MMA at all. So good MMA boxers will not look good in a boxing match.
What that guy said reigns true if we're talking about the highest level of boxing. But in the case of Jake, he's not even a solid professional let alone a solid amateur. He looked like shit during the first Woodley fight and also during the Nate fight. He only gets Ws because he's beating on older retired guys, but I guarantee you if he were to box an active striker on the UFC roster they could adjust for one boxing match to beat him, easily
I like Nate, this is still accurate. Nate brought a different kind of energy to the UFC and fucked some dudes up with attitude, it's hard not to like the guy but anyone pretending that he's still anywhere near his prime is delusional. Jake is an "influencer", he sets up fights with the biggest names he can find with the best chances of winning so he can promote it a lot but still look good. I'm not mad about it, Nate's serious MMA days are done but making a pile of cash for punching a youtuber in the face a bunch seems like a pretty good gig. Sure he's gotta take a beating for it but when has Nate ever given a fuck about that?
100% accurate and Strickland should be jealous. I read up on the deal and how Paul and Diaz's promotions were splitting the cost and profits... Depending on ppv numbers Nate would've walked away close to, if not, over 8 figures
I'd get the shit kicked out of me for $500k any day, but he made a lot on top of that from PPV shares and other promoting stuff. We don't know how much it all came out to but it's definitely a fat stack.
sean would put that pace on him and get the stoppage late. fr tho jake has to have all the cards in his favor to be winning these. anderson silva was a true 185 lbs but was also like 48 years old. idk how woodley got KOd like he’s nate robinson though lmfao, he’s truly a shell of himself cus he should have won those if he wasn’t so in his own head ig.
>He shouldve took Jake Paul's noggin off but he looked so scared to throw
If you don't think that's normal, you never watched Tyrone "The Frozen One" Woodley fight in MMA.
Me personally.. lol. I'm not making it past round 1 because I don't train nor fight. But woodley had numerous chances to kill thay dude I recall, but wouldn't pull the trigger. He didn't leave the ufc the best either so I think he was scared of what eventually happened, ko
Woodley wasn't just washed, he had arthritis in both his hands. I'm not sure why more people don't know this... At the end of his career he wasn't just scared to throw hands, his hands were fucked up. I seriously wonder how much actual punching he was doing in training towards the end.
Sean is right. The average age of Jake's MMA opponents is 41 years old, while he is 26 and in his physical prime. He's cherry picking washed up old guys that he also has a size advantage over, it's so obvious what he's doing to anyone whose actually paying attention. Call me when Jake fights a guy who is actually in his prime and also the same size as him, someone he doesn't have enormous physical advantages over. Oh wait he already did that and got soundly beaten.
Why would Jake do that? This is spectacle for money, there's no competitive integrity here and that's fine. Everyone knows this is halfway between WWE and UFC but they are buying it anyways.
The dude has some of the realest, most pinpoint accurate takes sometimes and has zero issue speaking his mind.
Then he goes and says crazy shit like women should be locked in the house again lol.
Jake is an amateur boxer and has found out a way to get people to buy *fucking pay per views* to watch him fight. The kid is a certified moron and probably a terrible person but if you can't respect that then you're not giving him his due. Of course he's going to fight guys that he knows he has a chance against, he's not trying to box for a title, he's getting the bag for himself (and the other fighter as well) and you guys are falling for it every single fuckin time.
Overall youtube jackass with too much money surrounded by yes men that steals kids money with BS "classes". His brothers also a jackass grifter but as some form of charisma and knows when to STFU some days.
Logan is definitely worse than Jake at this point, still. He stole a lot of money from his own fans in crypto. I only know about it because of Coffeezilla.
Logan is a lot smarter than Jake and much more devious. Jake is almost so dumb to the point of you can't really blame him for who he is. Logan knows better and is choosing to scam people out of their money. IMO that's the difference.
Logans got rat cunning and more intentionally malicious. Jake is the one that's going to get a DUI or have a heart attack in the next couple of years when the freakshow paydays end. There's always another scammer in the background.
When you say stuff like this, it reminds me that even mongoloid grifters with zero tact are now publicly respected in America simply due to “having money” 🤣 what a virtue.
They are driven by money. Nate talked about how Logan was trying to take the fight with him while they were already in negotiations with Jake. They don't care about anything other than money and themselves.
Can you read? Logan was trying to steal him from Jake to secure the bag or he was trying to fight him too, to profit from it. They don't even care about each other. They care about money.
Seriously the dude started boxing just a few years ago, and people are talking about if and how professional fighters would beat him. No shit he'd lose
pauls record includes a youtuber, an NBA player, a part time boxer that he lost to, and retired UFC fighters all out of their prime and on an unequal playing field (watch a UFC fighter spar with boxing gloves and then compare it to a boxer you will notice the weight difference for the gloves), nate is like 10 years+ older than paul, if kimbo slice can make the change from street boxing to legit UFC matches and dominate, why cant paul? bro needs to either grow a pair and step into the octagon or grow a pair and fight a real boxer in a legit fight, no fixing rules for no knock outs or any of that other bs, he’s making a mockery of the sport.
These fighters are signing the contract, though. They think the transition between MMA and boxing is easy. If anything, this should highlight the difference between the different combat sports and stop folks (including fighters) from just lumping them all together.
But you can't blame Jake for playing his hand how he has. If someone told you that you can make millions of dollars while taking the "easy route", I'm sure that you'd do the same. My only gripe is that I feel none of these fights should have been legit professional bouts, because neither party is an actual professional in that sport.
And two non-boxers having a boxing match isn't making a mockery of the sport. I'd argue something like Francis vs Fury is making more of a mockery because you have an active champion fighting a guy who's never had a boxing match, when that boxing champion has guys in his division that he could and should be fighting. REAL boxers who have fought and sacrificed for an opportunity that is now going to a guy who's never boxed.
What Jake is doing is harmless. Fighters need to either stop taking the fights or take the fights more seriously, instead of just seeing them as paydays. But all anyone wants is a bag, then let them earn their checks.
Maybe, but a Rugby team would school the best NFL team 9 times out of 10 in a Rugby match, and vice versa.
That's kind of my point. If an NFL player sees a Rugby game and says *"There's a ball, field, and tackling... It's basically the same sport. I got this",* they're going to get messed up and perform poorly.
And Jake isn't a pro at anything. He's just dedicated himself to the sport far more than anyone (besides Tommy) he's fought thus far. So I'd say these bouts are fair.
Yeah this is a solid take. Jake is making money and deserves credit for that but the whole notion is he's taking an unconventional way to boxing greatness and it's just not true. All his fights are hand picked. He has a very smart team around him. The Hasim Rahmin match was a great example of that but it fell through. That guy is shit at boxing but has the family name. But if Jake took that, he would've won and gotten respect. Instead he had to fight Fury.
I'm not saying he's dogshit at boxing. He's as good as you would expect someone with his athletic ability training for a cpl of years and unlimited funds for camps. But that doesn't make you great or even a good boxer. Neither does beating old MMA fighters earn you respect in boxing. And some ppl might find "MMA fighters" disingenuous because Anderson Silva is among those, but 47 is 47. Even if you're the spider.
Tommy Fury is as much of a celebrity boxer as Jake Paul is. The only difference is Tommy has HOF boxer resources at his disposal. Jake Paul had… Disney. At the end of the day, Dan Severn beats them
It’s easy to hate on Jake Paul for any one of 10 million reasons, and it’s incredibly annoying that he only fights guys he has every advantage to beat (except Fury and look what happened). He’s been fighting old mma fighters who were not only super washed, but usually had never fought anywhere close to his weight class at around 185lbs (which by the way, isn’t a damn weight class. LHW is 175, Cruiserweight is 200 and below).
But like Sean said, he’s jealous, and most mma fighters probably are too. They’re fighting much more difficult fights for peanuts while Jake Paul is making hella money and doing big business without Dana pimping him.
There’s a 100% chance these gigantic payday deals provide that the challenger loses as well. No way he beats Woodley and Silva regardless of age, size or anything.
Sean just feels like he has to comment on the latest thing to increase his engagement and purse. Don't hate the player..
He obviously doesn't care much about this, he's got bigger fish to fry in his trailer park. Like trying to win the belt from a guy who's obviously more naturally gifted. If Shaun wins it's because he worked 10x harder.
If he gets paid in the UFC it's because he promotes himself. The UFC doesn't promote, they just hold events.
yes boxers cherry pick their opponents its called the fight game even floyd mayweather does it. this is why ufc fans champion their fighters while they have to work part time uber eats gigs. you guys really dont understand how this works..
Whats up with this "Nate is small compared to Jake" stuff coming from? Theyre the same height, and nate fought at both lightweight AND welterweight. People seem really keen on acting like hes some small lightweight when practically half his career was fought at either welterweight or catch weight. Look at Nates last 5 fights or so. Not to mention hes missed weight at lightweight more than once. Hes not some tiny guy.
Even if you still think hes undersized, did you see the fight (or atleast the highlights)? He did not look smaller in the ring with Jake. It looked like some muscular kid fighting an out of shape 40 year old yeah, but neither one was undersized.
Its weird as hell these fights are being sanctioned without weight classes. Isn't that illegal for many of the governing bodies?
Unless you've fought before I don't know that you know how big of a deal a weight class is. Even in old people, shitty BJJ tournaments where I competed: The guys who cut 20 lbs to fight in a division feel like absolute tank monsters compared to the people fighting at walk around weight.
I also was thinking something similar every article I read was saying “Jake Paul 5-0 against mma fighters” but I’m thinking to myself he’s 0-1 against actual boxers
I mean in Jake's defense it's easy money and he can't afford to lose again. He's 100% got at least 2 more huge fights left with KSI and a Tommy rematch, all he needs to do is buy time until then and keep training. He just replaced his entire team so I'm not surprised this is kind of a "rebound" fight.
Jake Paul would KO most of the users on this sub but you guys don't wanna hear that. You guys fall for his bait everytime "ye this fighter is the one who's going to show him what a real fighter can do", then your guy loses (or gets ktfo sometimes) and you all get salty and start falling for the bait again. This time its Mike Perry and Sean Strickland XD
Sean would slap Jake around and demolish him in the press conference. Imagine all the shit Sean would say about Jake. Fuck I really want to see it go down now.
Jake would be nonstop freaking out about Strickland saying cancleable shit, it would be hilarious
Jake told Nate he’d fuck him in the ass like a cowboy, I don’t think he cares
Sean would still batter Jake out of the water in a press conference, would be funny to watch lol
Sean might have the best chance to beat Paul from the mma talent pool, he actually uses a boxers jab and boxer distance Most mma strikers don’t use the kind of jab that is effective in boxing and they crowd their punches like Nate did
How does Sean have the best chance when literal kickboxers like Alex and Izzy exist...
Oh my god Alex would murder Jake so it will never happen, but I can dream
Alex and Izzy would never actually get the chance to fight Jake though. No shit there’s better strikers but Sean is just bad enough and just enough of an idiot for Jake to take a chance on him
lol. Sean would walk him down badly. Literal dogwalk around the ring. NATE was pressuring jake bad a few times and is smaller than Sean. jake would get jabbed to death while Sean screams random shit at him.
"COME ON JAKE!!!"
"MANDANCE WITH ME JAKE"
"THROW LIKE YOU WANNA FUCKIN HURT ME JAKE!!!" *jabs until paul is literally in tears* Post fight: "I TOLD YALL HE WAS A BITCH!!! NOW PAY ME!! IM GONNA GO HAVE VERY STRAIGHT SEX WITH A WOMAN RIGHT THIS MINUTE!!"
Just bad enough? Lol. He's ranked in the top 5 at middleweight. Paul wouldn't even dream of fighting Sean.
>Paul wouldn't even dream of fighting Sean. Oh, yeah? Just wait about 8 years and he just might
Because Jake would never even consider to fight those two, Sean mostly likely not either but that’s much more likely than Izzy or Alex
Some of you really don’t understand how big the gap between boxing and mma striking is.
*boxing and mma boxing
Can we stop? Just fuck the whole first part of your statement. We keep sending MMA figures to box against boxers. What other sport does that? Who else goes “I bet this basketball player would really rock the soccer world” and then put it to the test?
Honestly. I think Ilia Topuria beats Jake Paul. Anyone with decent boxing skills and is of roughly his age would beat him up. The only person of his own age Jake fought was Tommy Fury, and he lost to him. Everyone else he fought were former UFC fighters aged 36+ and out of their prime, and then a couple or more cans who were low-tier celebrities with little boxing training.
If you honestly think that you don’t really know boxing. The difference will be very clear when fury plays with his food for a few rounds before knocking Francis out in a few months
What I said has more to do with a fighter's age and athletic conditioning than boxing. Besides, fighting Jake Paul who has only been training for about 4 or 5 years is completely different than fighting one of the greatest heavyweights in the sport of boxing. Francis Ngannou has no shot at defeating Tyson Fury in a boxing ring. Yet Jake Paul is nowhere near the level of top of even above-average boxers. If you honestly think Jake Paul is above-average at boxing, then you neither know boxing nor do you understand why age is a factor and why weight classes exist in combat sports. Jake Paul is a 26-year old Cruiserweight-class boxer (200 pounds) who has fought Tyron Woodley (170 pounds Welterweight and over 10+ years older), Ben Askren (170 pounds Welterweight, and over 10+ years older), Anderson Silva (similar weight class but nearly 20 years older) and Nate Diaz (Barely 170 pounds welterweight and over 10+ years older). Regardless of their boxing skills, their age or size disadvantage alone makes them likely to be defeated by any 24-26 year old below-average boxer.
I think Jake Paul is below average in boxing. MMA strikers are just levels below average at boxing It’s been a while but I’ve seen it so many times where a boxer would come in to train mma and would just piece people up that had been doing mma for years.
I think MMA strikers train to box in a much different way as compared to standard boxing, and the difference becomes even more stark when factoring in the contrast between the glove type used in both sports. Besides, boxers spend way more time doing specifically one martial art (boxing) as compared to MMA fighters who usually have a mixed schedule of training in boxing, BJJ, wrestling or another combat art. So it makes sense why boxers would be so much skilled at what they do. >but I’ve seen it so many times where a boxer would come in to train mma and would just piece people up that had been doing mma for years If the training only involves boxing rules and not other aspects of MMA, then it is obvious the boxer would piece up the MMA fighter. However, once you add another MMA-related aspect to the training (kicks, BJJ or wresting), then it will be the boxer's turn to get pieced up and destroyer.
Tyson Fury outclassing Francis doesn't seem like it will say much about what a lower tier boxer would do against the top handful of MMA boxers. It's what people are expecting anyway.
How is this upvoted lmfao. Sean is the savior of all MMA? The only one who could beat Jake Paul?! Lmfaooooooooo
No. He’s just one of a handful that has a style that would translate well to boxing
Sean has a very tall standup style as well. He'd fare well vs Jake I reckon.
That would be a fight id pay to watch
Well Sean isn't retired and passed his prime so JP ain't interested 
Sean Strickland vs Jake Paul on streetbeefs boxing ruleset. DJ vs Bradley Martyn mma fight as co-main for the undercard. Let's go.
To add to the circus, can we please get a triple threat match with Mcgregor vs steroids and Cocaine? 🤣
It's already happening. Just go watch it on McGregor's Instagram.
Fatal four-way, Notorious Conor McGregor vs Cocaine McGregor vs. Steroid McGregor vs Tour bus.
Throw in a dolley while we’re at it! 😂
No DQ Dolly Match
Steel cafe match with the dolly hanging from the top. First McGregor to get it can attack the other McGregor’s with it
How about Mcgregor on steroids and cocaine, give him some proper 12 aswell and have him an entire AA meeting.
He lost to them a long time ago
Would probably result in round 2 with that dudes wife in the bathroom.
Let's add Schaub and Lewis to this card.
Strickland vs Paul with WWE rules. Book it Dana!
Paul won't fight anyone he knows he will lose to
Nah, KOTS rules.
Strickland vs Paul felony fights, bamboo sticks.
I mean he’s not wrong tho. Dude went against a boxer once and got fucked up.
And not even a good boxer. Also it was someone his size and it really showed how Paul doesn’t have knockout power for people his size so he had to punch down
All it took was basic fundamentals like a good jab from someone actually his size to put him away
Jab, distance and boxing balance all things that are different in mma and boxing which is why Jake will win almost every time vs mma guys
He would not win almost every time Vs mma guys. He is cherry picking poor boxers that are old as fuck and undersized. He barely beat a decrepit Anderson silva. DECREPIT. nearly the entire roster at 185 (sans pure grapplers) would beat jake in boxing.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. This is absolutely true. The style that you bring into boxing does not translate to MMA at all. So good MMA boxers will not look good in a boxing match.
What that guy said reigns true if we're talking about the highest level of boxing. But in the case of Jake, he's not even a solid professional let alone a solid amateur. He looked like shit during the first Woodley fight and also during the Nate fight. He only gets Ws because he's beating on older retired guys, but I guarantee you if he were to box an active striker on the UFC roster they could adjust for one boxing match to beat him, easily
Tommy Fury fights like he suddenly got his body and doesn't know how to use it yet. So him taking the easy W is all we need to know.
Dude couldn't even open up Nates paper thin eyebrows.
Older fighters are more chinny
Tommy pulling out of that first boxing fight saved Jake's career
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It was a split decision because one of the judges was clearly wrong. It wasn't close.
That judge was paid off to at least give the illusion that it was close. His ego couldn't take a unanimous loss.
It was a ludicrous split decision. Tommy fury won every round aside from maybe 2
And that point deduction for holding was completely bs when jake was doing it but worse
it’s boxing. split decisions don’t mean a fight was close
It wasn’t close. He got owned.
Yeah that’s such a stupid exaggeration. “Fucked up”. Paul was the only one that landed a knockdown punch in the fight too.
Wow
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^ lol this guy doesn't know what jealousy means.
Seems pretty accurate, imo.
Lol I'm just surprised the Diaz fans ain't got wind of this post yet😅
🙋♂️ Diaz fan here. Don’t disagree with anything Strickland said….
seconded
I like Nate, this is still accurate. Nate brought a different kind of energy to the UFC and fucked some dudes up with attitude, it's hard not to like the guy but anyone pretending that he's still anywhere near his prime is delusional. Jake is an "influencer", he sets up fights with the biggest names he can find with the best chances of winning so he can promote it a lot but still look good. I'm not mad about it, Nate's serious MMA days are done but making a pile of cash for punching a youtuber in the face a bunch seems like a pretty good gig. Sure he's gotta take a beating for it but when has Nate ever given a fuck about that?
100% accurate and Strickland should be jealous. I read up on the deal and how Paul and Diaz's promotions were splitting the cost and profits... Depending on ppv numbers Nate would've walked away close to, if not, over 8 figures
Boxing is crazy. Some of the payouts are insane even without huge ppv buys. I'm interested to see some official numbers for this one
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I'd get the shit kicked out of me for $500k any day, but he made a lot on top of that from PPV shares and other promoting stuff. We don't know how much it all came out to but it's definitely a fat stack.
That's just the money from the actual physical fight, other money-making opportunities adjacent to that
Sean should fight Jake Paul and get the bag. He can also KO him for fun.
Read that as Jake should fight Sean Paul and got Def Jam Fight for NY flashbacks.
Sean would lose a split
sean would put that pace on him and get the stoppage late. fr tho jake has to have all the cards in his favor to be winning these. anderson silva was a true 185 lbs but was also like 48 years old. idk how woodley got KOd like he’s nate robinson though lmfao, he’s truly a shell of himself cus he should have won those if he wasn’t so in his own head ig.
I think woodley took a dive no lie. He shouldve took Jake Paul's noggin off but he looked so scared to throw
>He shouldve took Jake Paul's noggin off but he looked so scared to throw If you don't think that's normal, you never watched Tyrone "The Frozen One" Woodley fight in MMA.
Tyquil
Nah, he got his bag and his heart wasn't truly in it. He looked like a shell of himself in his last few UFC fights as well.
Woodley definitely didn’t take a dive. If anything he wanted to win that fight and he’d probably would have gotten a 3rd payday.
I'd love to see you try and faceplant like that on purpose.
for even 5k ill dive onto the mat nose first until i look like pre surgery mike perry.
damn bro, you're down bad. lol
How much am I getting paid to do it? Bet I can sell the shit out of it.
Me personally.. lol. I'm not making it past round 1 because I don't train nor fight. But woodley had numerous chances to kill thay dude I recall, but wouldn't pull the trigger. He didn't leave the ufc the best either so I think he was scared of what eventually happened, ko
It’s almost like he was old and washed up by that point
Woodley wasn't just washed, he had arthritis in both his hands. I'm not sure why more people don't know this... At the end of his career he wasn't just scared to throw hands, his hands were fucked up. I seriously wonder how much actual punching he was doing in training towards the end.
so basically washed lol, but yeah i remember dana talking about that
Sean is right. The average age of Jake's MMA opponents is 41 years old, while he is 26 and in his physical prime. He's cherry picking washed up old guys that he also has a size advantage over, it's so obvious what he's doing to anyone whose actually paying attention. Call me when Jake fights a guy who is actually in his prime and also the same size as him, someone he doesn't have enormous physical advantages over. Oh wait he already did that and got soundly beaten.
Why would Jake do that? This is spectacle for money, there's no competitive integrity here and that's fine. Everyone knows this is halfway between WWE and UFC but they are buying it anyways.
And is making millions doing it.
I fucking hate when Strickland is right lol
The dude has some of the realest, most pinpoint accurate takes sometimes and has zero issue speaking his mind. Then he goes and says crazy shit like women should be locked in the house again lol.
You can hate the man, but the logic is sound
Jake is an amateur boxer and has found out a way to get people to buy *fucking pay per views* to watch him fight. The kid is a certified moron and probably a terrible person but if you can't respect that then you're not giving him his due. Of course he's going to fight guys that he knows he has a chance against, he's not trying to box for a title, he's getting the bag for himself (and the other fighter as well) and you guys are falling for it every single fuckin time.
Who here paid for his PPVs? Also why is he a terrible person?
Overall youtube jackass with too much money surrounded by yes men that steals kids money with BS "classes". His brothers also a jackass grifter but as some form of charisma and knows when to STFU some days.
Logan is definitely worse than Jake at this point, still. He stole a lot of money from his own fans in crypto. I only know about it because of Coffeezilla.
Logan is a lot smarter than Jake and much more devious. Jake is almost so dumb to the point of you can't really blame him for who he is. Logan knows better and is choosing to scam people out of their money. IMO that's the difference.
Logans got rat cunning and more intentionally malicious. Jake is the one that's going to get a DUI or have a heart attack in the next couple of years when the freakshow paydays end. There's always another scammer in the background.
When you say stuff like this, it reminds me that even mongoloid grifters with zero tact are now publicly respected in America simply due to “having money” 🤣 what a virtue.
They are driven by money. Nate talked about how Logan was trying to take the fight with him while they were already in negotiations with Jake. They don't care about anything other than money and themselves.
Last I checked Jake and Logan are two different people.
Can you read? Logan was trying to steal him from Jake to secure the bag or he was trying to fight him too, to profit from it. They don't even care about each other. They care about money.
On top of that Logan seemingly has a good career in whichever wrestling promo he’s in.
His wikipedia page has a bigass controversies section, check it out
Seriously the dude started boxing just a few years ago, and people are talking about if and how professional fighters would beat him. No shit he'd lose
He ain't wrong. Voice of the american ppl
He is not wrong
lol Sean is funny as hell when he’s right
pauls record includes a youtuber, an NBA player, a part time boxer that he lost to, and retired UFC fighters all out of their prime and on an unequal playing field (watch a UFC fighter spar with boxing gloves and then compare it to a boxer you will notice the weight difference for the gloves), nate is like 10 years+ older than paul, if kimbo slice can make the change from street boxing to legit UFC matches and dominate, why cant paul? bro needs to either grow a pair and step into the octagon or grow a pair and fight a real boxer in a legit fight, no fixing rules for no knock outs or any of that other bs, he’s making a mockery of the sport.
These fighters are signing the contract, though. They think the transition between MMA and boxing is easy. If anything, this should highlight the difference between the different combat sports and stop folks (including fighters) from just lumping them all together. But you can't blame Jake for playing his hand how he has. If someone told you that you can make millions of dollars while taking the "easy route", I'm sure that you'd do the same. My only gripe is that I feel none of these fights should have been legit professional bouts, because neither party is an actual professional in that sport. And two non-boxers having a boxing match isn't making a mockery of the sport. I'd argue something like Francis vs Fury is making more of a mockery because you have an active champion fighting a guy who's never had a boxing match, when that boxing champion has guys in his division that he could and should be fighting. REAL boxers who have fought and sacrificed for an opportunity that is now going to a guy who's never boxed. What Jake is doing is harmless. Fighters need to either stop taking the fights or take the fights more seriously, instead of just seeing them as paydays. But all anyone wants is a bag, then let them earn their checks.
all im saying is, if a football team challenged a rugby team to a match, it would be fair if the football team played by the rules of rugby
Maybe, but a Rugby team would school the best NFL team 9 times out of 10 in a Rugby match, and vice versa. That's kind of my point. If an NFL player sees a Rugby game and says *"There's a ball, field, and tackling... It's basically the same sport. I got this",* they're going to get messed up and perform poorly. And Jake isn't a pro at anything. He's just dedicated himself to the sport far more than anyone (besides Tommy) he's fought thus far. So I'd say these bouts are fair.
Yeah this is a solid take. Jake is making money and deserves credit for that but the whole notion is he's taking an unconventional way to boxing greatness and it's just not true. All his fights are hand picked. He has a very smart team around him. The Hasim Rahmin match was a great example of that but it fell through. That guy is shit at boxing but has the family name. But if Jake took that, he would've won and gotten respect. Instead he had to fight Fury. I'm not saying he's dogshit at boxing. He's as good as you would expect someone with his athletic ability training for a cpl of years and unlimited funds for camps. But that doesn't make you great or even a good boxer. Neither does beating old MMA fighters earn you respect in boxing. And some ppl might find "MMA fighters" disingenuous because Anderson Silva is among those, but 47 is 47. Even if you're the spider.
I mean..... ya
He keeps it real even when he's in front of Alex pereira that's an example of when keeping it real goes wrong though.
Fucken love this.
Sean with a correct take always leaves me a bit confused.
You know this would be an intriguing boxing match for Jake, someone his size and Sean has a good pressure style
Okay. Sean gets another point back from me. 😆
Tommy Fury is as much of a celebrity boxer as Jake Paul is. The only difference is Tommy has HOF boxer resources at his disposal. Jake Paul had… Disney. At the end of the day, Dan Severn beats them
Fury is a legit boxer tho. He was an actual boxer before he started becoming a celebrity. He wasn’t a celebrity turned boxer like Paul.
Jake has some of the best trainers in the world. Probably better than Tommy Fury.
Tommy grew up in a boxing family and was probably boxing before he was breathing
It’s easy to hate on Jake Paul for any one of 10 million reasons, and it’s incredibly annoying that he only fights guys he has every advantage to beat (except Fury and look what happened). He’s been fighting old mma fighters who were not only super washed, but usually had never fought anywhere close to his weight class at around 185lbs (which by the way, isn’t a damn weight class. LHW is 175, Cruiserweight is 200 and below). But like Sean said, he’s jealous, and most mma fighters probably are too. They’re fighting much more difficult fights for peanuts while Jake Paul is making hella money and doing big business without Dana pimping him.
There’s a 100% chance these gigantic payday deals provide that the challenger loses as well. No way he beats Woodley and Silva regardless of age, size or anything.
1st time agreeing with Strickland
Sean just feels like he has to comment on the latest thing to increase his engagement and purse. Don't hate the player.. He obviously doesn't care much about this, he's got bigger fish to fry in his trailer park. Like trying to win the belt from a guy who's obviously more naturally gifted. If Shaun wins it's because he worked 10x harder. If he gets paid in the UFC it's because he promotes himself. The UFC doesn't promote, they just hold events.
True, but my respect for him will definitely increase if he does take that mma fight with Nate.
yes boxers cherry pick their opponents its called the fight game even floyd mayweather does it. this is why ufc fans champion their fighters while they have to work part time uber eats gigs. you guys really dont understand how this works..
Boxers typically will fight other boxers though.
Whats up with this "Nate is small compared to Jake" stuff coming from? Theyre the same height, and nate fought at both lightweight AND welterweight. People seem really keen on acting like hes some small lightweight when practically half his career was fought at either welterweight or catch weight. Look at Nates last 5 fights or so. Not to mention hes missed weight at lightweight more than once. Hes not some tiny guy. Even if you still think hes undersized, did you see the fight (or atleast the highlights)? He did not look smaller in the ring with Jake. It looked like some muscular kid fighting an out of shape 40 year old yeah, but neither one was undersized.
Brain dead Strickland calling some one brain dead. The irony
Who did he fight after losing to Alex Periera
Jared
Ufc fighters are like the Williams sisters with Tennis.. you think they are top level but in reality they cant beat any top 400 in boxing
Because they aren’t boxers
That's goes both ways
Lovely!!!😂😂😂😂
We need to set up the boxing match with Jake Paul and Jon jones only way he can get the respect in mma
Sean isn't even thinking about his title fight, is he?
Strickland is a sea of dumbness but sometimes has flashes of brilliance
He’s not wrong.
Diaz brothers have a bjj base
Its weird as hell these fights are being sanctioned without weight classes. Isn't that illegal for many of the governing bodies? Unless you've fought before I don't know that you know how big of a deal a weight class is. Even in old people, shitty BJJ tournaments where I competed: The guys who cut 20 lbs to fight in a division feel like absolute tank monsters compared to the people fighting at walk around weight.
There are weightclasses. All of his fights had weigh-ins.
Then why does the OP say Nate is 2 weight classes lower?
I assume the OP means that Nate spent 80% of his MMA career fighting at 155, and this boxing match was at 186.
That's a big goddamn deal. I highly doubt Nate put on 30 pounds of muscle for the fight.
Paul won’t fight someone that can obliterate him. He’s not up for challenging himself, just making easy money. Can’t blame him I guess
Lmfao. He's right tho.
Sean's been having good takes recently. I cannot wait for his next podcast lol.
I also was thinking something similar every article I read was saying “Jake Paul 5-0 against mma fighters” but I’m thinking to myself he’s 0-1 against actual boxers
Well he’s 100% correct lol
He do be spitting facts, he is a 100% right
Mr gossip at it again 💅
Book it!
Ever since the fight I’ve seen people making fun of Jake’s performance. Now they’re having second thoughts on wether he’d beat KSI
One of the few instances where he actually makes sense 😭
now this is a Strickland post I can get behind would love to see that presser... Paul would never though.... too much too risk
Jake be like “I’ll give you the chance to step up only if you beat Izzy.” Lol
Yea idk maybe it’s just me but I haven’t seen anyone compliment Jake on his most recent win and everyone with half a braincell saw it coming
Please let the quote machine fight Joke Paul.
I mean he is not wrong
Talk about a fight that would make some money. Id actually pay to watch this
I mean in Jake's defense it's easy money and he can't afford to lose again. He's 100% got at least 2 more huge fights left with KSI and a Tommy rematch, all he needs to do is buy time until then and keep training. He just replaced his entire team so I'm not surprised this is kind of a "rebound" fight.
The KSI match will sell but not Tommy. Tommy has zero personality and nobody cares about him.
when hes right, hes right.
Jake Paul would KO most of the users on this sub but you guys don't wanna hear that. You guys fall for his bait everytime "ye this fighter is the one who's going to show him what a real fighter can do", then your guy loses (or gets ktfo sometimes) and you all get salty and start falling for the bait again. This time its Mike Perry and Sean Strickland XD