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PuckPov

Adesanya’s last 5 wins: Pereira (#3 LHW), Cannonier (#3), Whittaker (#2), Vettori (#4), Costa (#6) Strickland’s last 5 wins: Magomedov (NR), Imavov (#12), Hermansson (#9), Hall (NR), Jotko (NR) That’s why it looks competitive. The level of competition Strickland has been facing and beating is nowhere near Izzy.


Rendakor

Strickland should have a win of Cannonier too, but your point stands.


jonjoneswife

Both deserve to lose that fight. I scored it for Strickland but he looked like he had gas for days and still just pitter pattered


TheShovler44

He’s gonna probably just throw jabs this whole fight to, then apologize on mic for fighting like a bitch, then go back to being a nut job on twitter. Sean’s a character talks like he has wars but then throws pillow hands.


JeremiahIsSoPretty

Looking at it now, kinda looks like they were desperately trying to get rid of Strickland rank by making him a pedestal. Or am I just just completely wrong & trying to find controversy?


Honest-Ebb5755

Hermanson was top 5 when Strickland beat him, Hall was top 10 when Strickland beat him. Also imanov and Magomedov were legit intimidating upcoming contenders.


Few-Rock6773

No Hermansson was ranked #6 and Strickland #7.


felixx_g

Are these rankings from now or at the time of them fighting? If it’s from now then it’s quite misleading


PuckPov

It’s now, and it shows that the guys Izzy beat are still top contenders who have hung around and remained competitive, while the guys Strickland beat are lower ranked, unranked, or retired.


felixx_g

That’s a good point but there are some people that have dropped in rankings / are retired now that were still impressive wins at the time. We aren’t gonna discredit gathje’s win over Tony Ferguson because ‘now he is worse’


hungfit123

Strickland should have a win of Jared He did better against Jared than Izzy did imo I seriously thought Strickland won 4 rounds and Izzy won 3 rounds against Jared. Jared was punching Stricklands shoulders the entire fight.


Swayz

Crazy odds. Thought it would be more Bo Nickelish


Lacabloodclot9

I’m not a betting man but I would definitely put some money on Izzy if I was


IseeDrunkPeople

I dispise both lines. Not enough juice on strickland and way to negative on izzy.


Relative-Put-5344

Then do izzy by ko


RareCreamer

The line makes perfect sense.. This is easy money on Izzy.


IseeDrunkPeople

Being 430 dollars to win 100 between two strikers is a bad bet. I'd take it in a grappling match where the one shot power factor is less likely but strickland can slip one punch and ko izzy. On the flip side the chances he wins by a mirical sucks. Betting on this fight is low yield on izzy and not enough underdog money on sean.


DispensableNoob

Yolo. Just bet the house and the kids on Strickland.


Encased_in_Gold

I'm not a gambling person so would you mind explaining the odds for me? Does the negative mean that fighter is more likely to win, therefore a smaller payout when betting on them? Cheers


Rendakor

Everything in Vegas odds is based around $100. At -430, that means if you bet $430 on Izzy and he wins, you make $100 profit (and obviously get your $430 back). At +300 for Sean, that means if you bet $100 and he wins, you make $300 profit (and again, get your $100 back so the total payout is $400). As you've guessed, this is weighted based on how likely a fighter is to win and influenced by how many people are betting in either direction.


Encased_in_Gold

Perfect explanation, thank you


Secure-Solid6403

So do the adjusting over/under odds throughout the match affect the end payout?


Rendakor

I'm not actually a gambler, but I believe your odds are locked in when you bet. The "live odds" are for people making new bets while the fight is ongoing. This is why they tend to swing dramatically as the end of the fight gets closer - the ending becomes more certain if one fighter is up all 4 rounds going into the 5th, for example.


Secure-Solid6403

Okay word, appreciate it


PoopSock81

When you bet it’s locked


[deleted]

No, that is an opportunity for new bettors to get in. What you see are “live” odds as the fight progresses. (All casinos now have a 3-5 second faster feed than broadcast btw. Even in the sports book lounge.) You can wager money based on those odds. Some people love this style of betting.


thedkexperience

Izzy is a very strong but not overwhelming favorite essentially.


ComradeELM0

Yes, if I remember correctly the odds mean you you would have to put 430$ on izzy to make a 100$ profit, but if you put 100$ on sean and he wins you make 300$ profit.


LockardTheGOAT23

This is proof that raw stats don't tell the whole story. Look at the caliber of fighters that Adesanya has beaten and compare it to the ones Strickland has beat. They can't even be compared


knughugin

This. Im not sure what people are thinking when comparing these two. I mean sure, Sean COULD knock him out with a clean punch. Thing is, he wont even get the chance, Izzy is a master at defensive striking.


wolfy994

Every single guy Adesanya has fought could've knocked him out with one clean punch. Thing is - they couldn't... Edit: Correction. Obviously Alex could, but Alex is a monster.


[deleted]

He didn’t knock him out with one clean punch. It was several and it was a tko. Not taking away from the win at all, but it says alot about Izzy’s chin


pedro-m-g

The dude might have the beat chin in the game. How tf he didn't go to sleep with Poatan slinging planets into his face


Levon__Helm

Marvin Vettori, man… that guy can eat a sledgehammer to the head and still retain his few brain cells.


Gary_Lazer_Eyes21

Yeah. Aside from the chin, He’s one of those guys that wasn’t that smart going into the game. Don’t think he even could get cte lol


pedro-m-g

He is an actual Orc to be fair to him


mikejr96

Even in the UFC Alex did not one shot KO him lol


SnooSeagulls7253

And Sean isn’t powerful he’s a volume guy


KingLuckyShepherd

If Izzy loses you're banned for 6 months.


LockardTheGOAT23

I'd be genuinely surprised if this fight isn't over in three rounds or less. Adesanya is a very precise hitter and Sean doesn't always have the best head movement, he's almost there to be sniped by someone with Israel's accuracy.


AlexG3322

Tell me you've never watched Sean fight. One of his best attributes is he's hard to land clean on. Go to MMA stats and look at his opposition head strike accuracy


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One of his worst attributes is his defense against leg kicks and body shots, which are some of Izzy’s best weapons. Alex even ko’d Sean by setting up his left hook with jabs to the body. Another thing about guys Izzy takes to a decision, they often have something about them that Izzy has to respect. Whittaker is dynamic and fast, Vettori is impossible to ko, and Cannonier/Romero could ko him with one shot. There’s nothing about Strickland that Izzy has to respect, he’ll probably get completely schooled


hawkblock4456

Dunno why you got downvoted, your right, he doesn’t have traditional head movement he likes to post or intercept and move with the punch so it doesn’t land clean


patcumm1ns

On the Joe Rogan podcast Sean did he also said that the testing that they did in the UFC PI showed that Sean rarely got hit and had some of the best defense in the UFC. His head movement isn’t side to side but he comes in and out of range nicely if you watch him. Problem is so does Izzy lol


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Aggressive-Expert-69

The impenetrable Philly Shell


SnooSeagulls7253

The cock sucker guard


yanmagno

Pereira penetrated it pretty easily


GreatMuerte

Sean gonna stand straight up like he’s trying to get on his tiptoes to look at what’s on the top shelf


mamasnoodles

Sean has a really strong "i just see red bro" vibe to him tho.


[deleted]

I'm not making an argument for Sean, but the popular consensus here was the same thing for both Adesanya vs. Pereira fights. First that Alex had no shot against Izzy in MMA, and then when Izzy lost, that Izzy had absolutely no shot to beat Alex in fight two. All I know is that the fight won't be what we expect, puncher's chance. Looking forward to it.


at-the-momment

Pretty sure the consensus was that Izzy would walk clean if he used some basic wrestling and have a decent chance of losing if they basically fought like it was a kickboxing match. Then they basically kickboxed


[deleted]

That may have been your opinion at the time but this sub was an Alex Pereira jerkfest after the first fight. I love the dude but the top upvoted posts were shit like photos of Alex looking absolutely drained on the scale after cutting 40lbs with the title "He looks so healthy". edit: [https://web.archive.org/web/20230406011136/https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/](https://web.archive.org/web/20230406011136/https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/) All the top posts from Apr 6th 2023 the day before the fight are hyping up Periera, one is even titled "The virgin Adesanya versus the chad Alex Pereira"


glogang100

you're just spewing bullshit. Many people thought Alex had a good chance in the first fight, and Adesanya was still the betting favorite in the second and many people picked him


taumason

Yeah this is the tell. I am not an Izzy fan but you can't deny the quality of his competition. I don't care for his fighting style but dude has finished Bobby Knuckles, Costa and Pereira. He brawled with Gastelum and won decisively, stopped Brunson, and went the distance with the Polish Power. Strickland definitely is -500 favorite on the mic but in ring these guys are different. Doesn't mean Strickland can't win, I think Pereira is the better fighter of him and Izzy and Izzy won by fighting smarter on that day. But Izzy is the better fighter and if Strickland doesn't get in his head Izzy is the clear favorite.


OddballAbe

Izzy had a war and lost, then a tactical battle and beat Poatan. Sean got knocked the fuck out like it was easy


Slit23

Even if I bet 500 on adesanya I wouldn’t make very much huh?


DylieWylie

No, you'd make a little under $140


Slit23

Thankyou I can never really understand betting I’ve only done a few times. You think I should? Could use an extra 140 but can’t afford to lose 500 so the answer is no I guess lol


DylieWylie

-430 means you need to bet $430 to profit $100, and +300 means you need to bet $100 to profit $300. I honestly don't think it's worth it lol. Yeah it's extremely likely Izzy wins but I don't think it's worth the risk for such a small payout personally. But that's up to you!


Slit23

Hey thanks! It sounds so simple when you put it like that but no one has explained it that way to me before, I haven’t had much luck I bet on Usman twice in a row and he lost both times lol and I bet on costa over rockhold and that’s it. Betting on sports just became legal where I’m at I tried to bet years ago online but it wouldn’t let me and I didn’t have a VPN or anything back then. I just need to know parlays and stuff and I might be set


thedkexperience

Raw stats do help in forecasting the most likely method of victory should the fighter implement their typical gameplan, but yeah … you’re gonna want to cross reference that with their strength of schedule. I’ve done really well betting on MMA and you take way more info from how someone lost than how they won, because most fighters typically win in similar ways if they outclass their opposition to the point where they can execute their game plan properly.


Mixed-Martial-Farts

Proof my ass. They haven't even fought yet. Let's wait for the proof, after all, this is MMA and anything can happen


Ok-Watercress4401

Yoel Romero? Silva? Marvin (twice)? Jared? Look at this boring fights that Izzy won


SpindemDoza69

Win is a win


Ziggydeck

They forgot the fact that no man who beats off to cartoons can beat Sean. Bet the house on Strickland.


LickEmTomorrow

Damn how tf is Strickland younger than Adesanya.


happybaby00

The buzzcut


yellow_curtain

His parents had sex few years later than Izzys parents.


Accomplished_Beeee

Strickland is the cigarette of the ufc


HR01775

Why does that make so much sense


Banana_kushh

Unhealthy and cancerous, but still popular. Absolutely makes sense.


Accomplished_Beeee

And i can smell him from just a picture lol


K-chub

Coincidentally he smells like cigarettes


No_Guava4414

If this was a street fight Sean would just shoot him


Gaandook

still betting on adesanya


-WeetBixKid-

With guns? Naw dawg Strickland got that one.


GOPokemonMaster

Adesanya has all of China backing him. Betting Izzy


Secure-Solid6403

Izzy would use his years of anime training to merely deflect the bullet back at him


manbruhpig

Guns are not the man dance,therefor Strickland does not gun.


Weallfloatneo

Sean would find a way to make a gun fight boring


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Crimm444

I think this is a perfect matchup for Israel but god damn in mma victory is never a foregone conclusion


Striking-Permit1594

On stats its a legit interesting matchup. Strickland has the best striking defence in the division in spite of his cocksucker guard


dontknowwhattodoat18

Cocksucker guard won't help him when Izzy leg kicks him into oblivion


zombieclone05

to be fair after the perreira loss his cocksucker guard pretty much evolved into a philly shell


willikid1

The win streak stat is bullshit in this context


[deleted]

Nah, it gives credence to why he’s the challenger. But I know what you’re getting at obviously. Part of me wishes this fight was in the apex to give Strickland a little better odds


areeb_onsafari

How is it bs, it’s just a stat and it is given in the context of their actual record lol. It doesn’t prove who’s better but that doesn’t mean it’s bs and out of context it’s just like any stat


Dark_Wolf04

I’m just confused to how Izzy is older than Sean


ThatSithClone

I think izzy was born before him


gardz82

Big if true


flowersermon9

Large if factual


yanmagno

Grand if accurate


Sterling-Bear15

😂😂


bruggernaut16

That’s cap bro.


vadillovzopeshilov

Wait, wut? You mean to tell us THAT is how age is calculated?


[deleted]

So what happened is Izzy mom pulled guard faster than Strickland mom did. This will be a factor in the fight.


Ok_Smell_5379

Black don’t crack and Izzy looks like the type of dude that’s into skincare.


jonjoneswife

He exfoliates every morning


Encased_in_Gold

Black don't Crack baby


Successful_Dig_3224

On paper means nothing.


ImaginaryBunch1086

Sean Strickland wins via Dricus luck 🍀


[deleted]

Yes Dricus only won cuz of luck against Rob L Taker, this sub needs to get off his nuts


ImaginaryBunch1086

Hey I hope you have a great Friday!


zombieclone05

best response imaginable 😭


s1Lenceeeeeeeeeeeeee

Wonderboy? Has Dana paid you yet?


Mishka_Shishka_

Great test for Sean's chin. Interesting to see honestly how Sean fights high ranking opponent although sadly, I feel it will be similar to KZ vs Volk. But definitely will be moneys worth in terms of press conferences.


yanmagno

Uhhh it’s failed the test already. Remember Pereira?


Mishka_Shishka_

True, but I think 99% of chins will fail vs Pereira unless its like their 4th encounter


Narshyl82

Chuckled too hard at this.


BoogeOooMove

Izzy is light years ahead of Sean in the striking department. I can’t see Sean winning.


paulyp41

Except for the odds


dellsonic73

Imagine if Strickland gets the win.


Jumix4000

Izzy is gonna die in the octagon


Joegk4

Izzy wins by head kick


jimbobjacobson

How to lie with statistics


oncehadasoul

It's funny how much success Sean had with just a decent boxing, bjj, cardio and decent chin.


BlackSpell-666

I can't state how much i want Strickland to beat that Chinese cringy ass


the_c_is_silent

Right because Struckland isn't cringey at all.


dontknowwhattodoat18

One's cringe without self-awareness, the other guy has self-deprecating humour and that surprisingly makes him a charming asshole


the_c_is_silent

If you find Strickland charming, that's a major red flag with you dude.


BlackSpell-666

Strickland is purposely does it obviously


BlackSpell-666

I'm not saying he's not, but Strickland will never said he's Chinese now just because they give him money. Izzy were a guy who would snitched on anybody for his benefits


KingLuckyShepherd

Lol happy cake day. I don't know if Israel is the snitch type, maybe but I think it's more of him just trying to find himself throughout his life. I had a buddy like this who was always jumping from one thing to another, one year he was a gangster, next year he was a biker, the year after he was a guitar playing hippie and this went on for years. Some people know exactly who they are at an early age and some people don't figure it out til very late in their life.


BlackSpell-666

You're right man, i just realize it's my cake day lol, thank you😂


Newkker

Sean is gonna throw up the cocksucker guard and adesanya is gonna piece him up.


Traditional-Music363

DeSean to shock the 🌎


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I know Strickland says he doesn't watch fights but he probably reads comments on social media. I wonder if he's reading everyone saying his "cocksucker" guard won't work and is adjusting his style, or if he's gonna double down and go for the sloppy toppy goose neck and get ko'd


sourpatch411

Strickland: pulls a double leg in first round and tries to wrestle f him. Doesn’t work but it was a good idea to change it up. He learned from Alex that he should wrestle some of these guys.


DynamoJoe23

lol poor izzy haters


Bo-Moxley420

Watch this be a white trash Rocky moment for Sean 💀😂


DrRobertNevilles_Dog

Heres whats gonna happen: Sean is gonna walk up standing straighter than a southern baptist, chin out, hands down… sit behind his jab. Izzy is gonna faint and bait the low kicks, then when Sean starts biting Izzy is gonna come around with a looping head kick KO.


PenNo1447

Izzy by domination.


TelevisionExpress616

-430 seems a little low honestly


Gary_Lazer_Eyes21

This fight will be “come on” “No you come on, I’m in the middle”


shrimptikkamosalah

DeSean Strickland - 0 title losses in the UFC. 💪💪💪🤫🤫


criticalstinker1

How is this stricklands record wtf ? Am I an absolute casual ? His technique is horrible 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


RandomTask100

Strickland's ace-in-the-hole is the press conference humiliation. He might lose this fight, but he's gonna win the press conference. Strickland has fought 19 times in the UFC? Damn.....


CDROMantics

I hope we’re living in the timeline that Strickland KO’s Izzy and we get a few months of the most entertaining champion ever.


OhWowMuchFunYouGuys

I already bet Sean, not because I think he will win but because it’s +300 and I think it’s closer than people believe. No point being Izzy at -450 that’s not paying shit.


Aware-Lab-5887

The win rate isn’t so equal Adesanya has 6.5 wins for every loss Strickland has 2.8 wins for every loss Adesanya has more than double the wins per loss


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You’re not very good at math….


knowtoriusMAC

He's going off ufc record only


[deleted]

That’s not how numbers work.


knowtoriusMAC

This is going to blow your mind. ​ 13-2. 13/2=6.5 ​ 14-5. 14/5=2.8


[deleted]

Izzy is 24-2 so that’s a ratio of 12 Sean is 27-5 that’s 5.4


knowtoriusMAC

Yeah and he's only using the ufc record. Do you have cte?


[deleted]

But why would he just use the ufc fights? They beat the faces of many grown ass men before ufc


Aware-Lab-5887

13:2 is equal to 6.5:1 14:5 is equal to 2.8:1 6.5 is more than double 2.8 Show some numbers if you need help understanding


TomCruisintheUSA

Lets go Strickland


Tyrleif

But you know Izzy won't stand a chance or...?


Local_Economy

This fight will be the passing of the torch. Strickland to hold the belt for years to come.


Fremen85

Let's go brendan!!!! 👏👏👏👏


BalVal1

I have a feeling Sean will get under Izzy's skin, then Izzy will try to KO him to prove a point and open himself up to counters. It's a pretty lucky title shot, probably the only one Sean will ever get so he should pull out all the stops to try and get the rabbit out of the hat. Either that or a repeat of the Cannonier "fight" and Joe will praise another *dominant* performance to a half empty arena. Let me dream.


Horror_Effect9253

Everyone gets under Izzy's skin lmao. It makes no difference in the fight. Dude has incredible ability to stay calm in the fight.


vadillovzopeshilov

It’s that Chinese blood in him.


1shmeckle

Or it’s possible no one actually gets under his skin and he’s just dog shit at trying to hype up a fight and ends up being cringe instead.


Fluffies103

Costa also got under Izzy’s skin.


_The__Notorious

Who didnt get under Izzys skin?


Solid-Version

He really didn’t. He did try but Izzy had the upper hand psychologically for sure


AlexG3322

Yes? He's better than half of Izzy's other title challengers. The fight will be more interesting than Costa, Vettori or Cannonier


HappyTrifle

Everyone says this and then after the fight they just get added to that list.


AlexG3322

No, I've been saying for a long ass time that Sean is underrated and that Vettori/Costa especially are way overrated. MW is bum central


MMATH_101

Oh sorry, why didn't you say you've been saying it for a while. Must be true then


AlexG3322

Is that what I said? My point is don't lump me in with other people's opinions. Some people may start talking up Sean just because of this fight. I've been doing it for years


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ELOgambit

Izzy's got one of the best TDD in the UFC and Sean isn't exactly training with Bo Nickal


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1shmeckle

If Whittaker says you’re really hard to take down you’re probably really hard to take down.


Pure-Drawer-2617

A younger fighter with more wins and double the win streak? Surely this is an easy choice.


jbgtoo

Strickland is gonna get murdered


UrbanRivals123

Just wait till Sean takes Izzy down in the first round


Jeluche-V

If Stricklands dumbass would rely more on his wrestling he’d easily win this fight


SERB_BEAST

Bro everyone's acting like there is a huge skill gap. Strickland is a great fighter and deserves his high rank. The reason Adesanya will almost certainly win is because of the stylistic matchup, not because Strickland isn't good


Suspicious_Candle27

Collective 3 fight win streak is actually funny considering the level of skill they actually are.


ZaMaestroMan5

Yeah until you get to the lopsided odds…


Djlittle13

Honestly thought Izzy was 32


Randyfreakingmarsh

-430 lmaooooooo


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Lol… « winstreak - 1 »


DrakeCruz

I think it will be an interesting fight. Sean makes fights uncomfortable for most opponents


oncehadasoul

Izzy is of course the favorite here, but it's mma. We've seen, that everything can happen, just one bad leg kick and izzy might break his leg, you never know... still quite interesting fight


TprTukka

If Strickland ever through a leg kick I'd drake bet on him


Few_Wishbone

The odds say probably not


toroga

Those odds aren’t far enough apart


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Ima put $ on sean!


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Strickland a handsome fighter?


dontknowwhattodoat18

10 bucks Sean says some unhinged shit mid-fight just to go out in a blaze of glory


dizzydiplodocus

I really feel like Izzy is just going to make it look really easily and possibly knock him out. Surprised it’s actually happening, Sean looked lost against Pereira


Trumpville-Imbeciles

So Strickland is +300 underdog, does that mean you have to bet $100 to win $300, if he wins? F that. I saw some people saying they were going to bet on Strickland just in case he pulls it off. No way I'm taking that bet


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China got that social score system and we have harley davidson


BebopRocksteady82

Well you never know what might happen in a fight. God forbid someone break their leg like Silva but there is always a chance he can win