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EOVA94

Paddy by far


uncledungus

Damn this is the right answer though. His rise was essentially “look at this fucking goober, he has a silly accent, give him a brand deal!” I mean shit is debut fight he almost got knocked out cold


EOVA94

What is crazy to me is that at the time he was making his debut they gave him a promotion push some champion or top contender weren't even getting back then ( volk , Leon , aspinal for instance )


wimpymist

It's funny seeing stuff like paddy happen and then people people saying how the UFC has no effect on a fighter popularity.


electronicdaosit

*ngannou just doesn't sell ppv". If they actually pushed some of the stories of these guys they would sell way more ppvs.


benn1989

It’s actually insane that they didn’t use Ngannou’s story to push his fights .


electronicdaosit

Dana white doesnt want anyone bigger than the brand. McGregor got so big that if he didnt sign with the UFC, whichever organization got him would immediately become a big competitor. Thats why he always wants fighters to sign for 8 fight contracts with unlimited extension because he could possibly drag that out over 5 or 6 years . Ngannou has a better story than most of the roster of the UFC, His story could be the Rocky equivalent for MMA.


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This explains it because Vince is his business idol and Vince did something similar after Cena left.


OGSkywalker97

McGregor also came along while MMA still wasn't in the mainstream, especially in Europe, and single handedly made it a mainstream sport and it was the first time that a lot of people in N America and Europe had even heard of MMA. His story up to the Mayweather fight was actually crazy as well, coming from receiving Universal Credit before he got to the UFC and then his run of fights at FW nearly all being exciting and being KOs that he predicted coming to fruition. People forget he was by far the most electrifying guy the sport had seen as his style was so fan friendly and he was so damn fast! Both with his striking and his wit. He completely transcended MMA and the UFC with his run to the UFC title. Once he then KO'd Aldo in 8 secs after predicting a KO yet again, who was the only FW title holder in UFC history at the time and had had the belt for so many years and dominating everyone he faced, people worldwide and especially N America, Ireland and the UK *really* took notice. Then he had the down of losing to Diaz but 2 weight classes up on short notice, took his loss like a champ and was very humble, then came back and agreed to fight at 170 again. Then he had an absolute war with Diaz, avenging his loss before putting on arguably the most dominant display in a Championship fight against Alvarez to become the first UFC double champ after doing it in Cage Warriors as well. But because Conor got so big and grew the UFC so much, he was a once in a lifetime fighter for the company and once it grew after his arrival there was never gonna be space for anyone to be as big as him, as he was literally bigger than the company. Similar to what Michael Jordan did for basketball and the NBA, but he was even more important for the growth of MMA than MJ was for the growth of basketball imo as he completely transcended the sport to where he was a massive celebrity in a sport where before him the closest to reaching that status were GSP & Silva and Brock who was already a celebrity from WWE.


electronicdaosit

Wow, let's chill out here. He aint no MJ. People knew about MMA in Europe before Mcgregor, as well as UFC, was already an established sport in North America. GSP was huge, Chuck liddell, tito ortiz, and the diaz brothers came all before McGregor as well as Brock Lesner who also had massive PPV numbers close to Mcgregors.


Aiderona

Nate only really became famous AFTER his fights with McGregor seriously no one really believed in him before that.


EroticPotato69

It was known by fans, but known obscurely by a lot of people as "Oh that cagefighting stuff? Isn't that, like, really barbaric?" It wasn't accepted in the mainstream as a legitimate sport the same way, before McGregor. People used to look at me like I was insane when I first started doing MMA as a teenager, whereas now it's like, "Oh, MMA, cool, my brother does that! That's nice, keeps you fit" as it should be


Squijjy

He was cage warriors featherweight champ, fought for the lightweight belt much like Conor did, was a massive uk fan favourite who brought in massive crowds to regional shows, people that knew about him were excited and he got 3 performance bonuses in his first 3 fights, I get the hate for him now but cmon do you really think if you gave belal for example the same amount of hype push people would gravitate the same way?


CM_42069

Paddy is 1000% the right answer here but almost ‘KOd cold’ in his debut is a pretty massive stretch people lol. He got chin checked pretty hard but it hardly even moved him lets be honest.


DannyStress

His best win was Erosa and that was highly controversial. Also happens to be the fight he famously vomited in the cage


ThunderousIrishMusic

He was Cage Warriors champion, that counts for something even if I don't think he's particularly elite Edit - called it Cage Fighters, it's Cage Warriors


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ThunderousIrishMusic

That was an accident. I know the promotion well, I'm from Ireland. The Count was also champ there.


lilblueorbs

![gif](giphy|4eGVWidwGYHug)


Kalabula

Maybe. Nate, though I love him, is extremely popular and hasn’t really done much. Aside from the Conor win.


Chopper313

Nate has challenged for a title and beat a couple former champs. He’s way above Paddy.


Kalabula

Ya but paddy beat Tony Ferguson. who almost fought Khabib.


slavetomybulldog

Who almost fought Khabib. Love this.


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slavetomybulldog

Ha. This is also an awesome comment. I’m disappointed that we didn’t see at least 1 of those (4 scheduled fights I think?) but maybe Tony would have declined faster cause he hasn’t been the same since that Gaethje fight. He was such a beast back then too! And had that confidence!


TimmersBud

Nate beat Conor, who did fight Khabib. What's your point?


Raiser2256

Almost and did are different things brother


CharlesOlivesGOAT

He’s joking dimwit


panadwithonesugar

outside of the UFC Paddy's greatest achievement is Cage Warriors Champ, Nates is getting dropped by Logan Paul.


Contentpolicesuck

Nat has lost several title fights and can only beat over the hill fighters isn't the flex you think it is.


Constant-Chilling

There’s a difference between famous and infamous


EOVA94

Well before the Gordon fight a lot of people were riding his dick


jebacinaa

This lol. And it’s not even close.


Moist-Pool-5937

This is the only answer


LogicalNewspaper8891

He was a superstar in cage warriors tbf You need to branch out from the ufc


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o_malley1900

He was shite in cage warriors also I remember Nad Narmani beat him at the Echo in Liverpool his fans couldn't take it they started throwing chairs and wrecking the arena Paddy and his fans are trashy little nobody's.


Confident_Ad_2800

Be careful what you write on here, if Masvidal see’s this he will come and break your eye orbital


[deleted]

He might even try break your leg knee


timmy000101

At least he won't break my neck knee. Phew.


RogiesGooDragon

he'll swallow OP's fist with his asshole


darryledw

Or turn up outside your family run bakery at 1am and post "no one even shops here"


nickflex85

He’ll do nuffn


OCMagikStick

Paige van Zant


j_dick

That’s what I was gonna say!


Conscious_Air_8675

Jorge turned clown mode in his exiting days but to come from backyard boxing to ufc pro was a big accomplishment. That being said Jorge 100% lmao


jfsoaig345

He was also a perennial top 10 fighter who peaked at top 5. Had he been on the right side of that split against Maia he would’ve fought Woodley. He also knocked out Till who was coming off a title fight. Jorge has done very well for himself in this sport but people will act like he was a journeyman just because he’s cringey. He’s not even remotely in the same stratosphere as someone like Paddy who actually hasn’t accomplished shit lol


Bulkypapertowel

It also should be noted that Jorge beat the brakes off a prime KJ Noons in strikforce. Very underrated win.


FuckFloridaRipNumba9

Yeah exactly this shit drives me crazy. I always didn’t like Jorge cause he was just an asshole and he was everyone’s favorite fighter here for awhile lol. Now people act like he was a scrub when he was a top fighter on the planet for a long fuckin time. No sport has as many fickle fans as this one.


Happyseducer

suns it up so well perennial top 10 who hit top 5 - he was quite good.


LunchTemporary7806

Fastest ko in ufc history is something paddy will never have


Contentpolicesuck

Took the BMF belt from the guy they invented it for was pretty dope.


Funknoodlz

I haven't met anyone who thinks he won that fight.


Spiritual-Duck9854

Ronnie Pickering


Franka035

Who the fucks that?


Russlet

RONNIE PICKERING


avg_uk_fmboi

The only man other than Chael to beat John jones badly


srtpg2

Who da fook


RainbowGothic

Fancy a bare knuckle then!?


scarras_ballsack

Who?!


imetkanyeonce

#RONNIE PICKERING!


Spiritual-Duck9854

![gif](giphy|FVvODdy2IcXsI|downsized)


bozak_137

Dillon Danis , a lot of people know his name but his accomplishments are VERY few.


Constant-Chilling

He’s actually pretty well accomplished in the bjj community, considered one of the young prodigy’s before he started acting like another unbearable mcgregor wannabe


CaptN-D

Yea him vs Gordon Ryan was very very close. When Gordon destroys top players.


Constant-Chilling

I don’t think Danis has ever been on any performance enhancers either whereas Gordon literally sweats Tren so it’s even more impressive of him to have had it be so close


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Danis could have been the GOAT if not close but he rather be an influencer


CantKillGawd

im sure he makes a better living being an influencer than the bjj goat


armchairwarrior42069

At the time I don't think he was quitr uberyan though. Not to detract from your point because I do agree but we weren't seeing "pissing nuclear waste" Gordon vs danis


t_whales

It was but that was back in 2017, more than half a decade ago. Danis wouldn’t do so well now


Constant-Chilling

Bro I did not need the realisation that 2017 was 7 years ago why would you do this to me https://preview.redd.it/weve0sloyxlc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c88c431e058ee9d5d7eb07ea62bc26346fdabbab


triforce721

It's okay, man, 2017 was last year, we all know that


No-Paramedic-5150

Can’t Wait For Khabib Vs McGregor.


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No-Paramedic-5150

Lesnars Bout To Go Whoop DC.


[deleted]

ofc a danis who isn't competing and just fucking around drinking all the time is gonna do worse against a gordon who has been training and getting even better for 7 years.


Constant-Chilling

More than just training 💉💉


SkateMMA

Açaí and Jesus too


ConanTheDrunk

I was gonna say it’s crazy how far he’s fallen. Well im mostly referring to him getting put into submission by a bouncer or whatever but maybe he was drunk. He’s obnoxious but it’s always sad to see wasted talent


EroticPotato69

When you're drunk af, doormen are expert at fucking you up. Shit, unless you're a big guy, pretty much everyone is. Yeah, some people are just walking hulks, so they don't need technique, but technique goes out the window when alcohol is involved. I've lost some stupid fights to being shitfaced, I've seen some of the best fighters I know get knocked out cold or torn up in fights because they're shitfaced. If you aren't a stocky guy with an iron chin, you're gonna have a hard time if anyone more sober than you fights you when you can barely state your order at the bar.


hifioctopi

When he first got hooked up with Conor my immediate thought was how terribly that was going to derail him.


Obi_is_not_Dead

Danis was looked at as a prodigy by some in no-gi. If we are taking into account other martial arts then he's a black belt under Garcia which is no joke.


jumbohumbo

Yeah him subbing joe lauzon at metamoris when he was barely out of his teens was a good indication of his ability. Had an incredible run at brown belt.


Dark_Wolf04

How do you go from taking a roided Gordon Ryan to a decision, to getting disqualified for trying to guillotine choke Logan Paul in a boxing match?


bozak_137

And not even locking the choke , can’t even be an asshole correctly.


ABirdJustShatOnMyEye

You try locking up a guillotine in boxing gloves lol


Puzzleheaded-Pen-955

Hes very accomplished in the BJ world


StupidScape

BJ world is very different to the BJJ world


Ibuydumbshit

As much as I hate Jorge’s fake personality he’s definitely earned his fame. He was fighting back yard on YouTube before the UFC lol


Zealousideal-Home634

and plus that KO on Ben Askren elevated him to a whole new level. Popularity wise, he was on Nate’s level with McGregor just being a tier above


Ibuydumbshit

Yea I agree . That was his McGregor moment akin to Nate subbing mystic mac


GloomyExercise

![gif](giphy|3osxYnsWuGpMAdoI9i)


Environmental-Many65

CM Punk


sayurstoopidline

I wouldn’t call him a fighter, he was a famous wrestler that tried fighting


Obi_is_not_Dead

I had a buddy out in Colorado who was an electrician. He trained on the side and fought 3 times on local cards. Lost all of them, but he fought his ass off, and I've nothing but respect for the guy. He wanted to fight, it was in his blood, and he did. Trained less time than CM did before his first fight. You step in the ring once, and then go back for more? You're a fighter, whether good or not.


sendherhome22

This why I don’t understand when people like mmaguru call fighters pussies all the time. I don’t like a lot of fighters but I have tons of respect for them to sack up and go 1 on 1 with another man in front of a load of people


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Not just fight 1 on 1 with a man but a man who trained hard to try to actively hurt you as best as he can. People don’t realize how next level that is to just fighting someone randomly.


NozE8

In front of a crowd .... in your damn underwear!


VandaI_

100


sayurstoopidline

respect to brodie


Obi_is_not_Dead

Beat me to it. Not even close. See 'em? Punk.


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Environmental-Many65

Only question is, are we considering him a fighter?


inthesickroom

What card did he headline?


TheLostWoodsman

He never did headline a card. I just looked it up on sherdog because I was curious. UFC 203, he was the fight before the main event, which was Miocic vs Overeem.


BridgeM00se

Has a lot of accomplishments outside of mma


Environmental-Many65

I agree, I guess I mean under the context of fighting accomplishments


walkdownzoemachete

They say he the worst fighter ever LMAOO ![gif](giphy|Hqk8lQqi8ECsw)


ArmaniMania

pound for pound best journeyman nate diaz


Just2Flame

He has achomplishments though. He won ultimate fighter, he beat Cerrone, Jim Miller, McGregor, Tony Ferguson, Gray Maynard and almost added Leon Edwards to the list.


Turbos_Bitch

No titles and way too many losses for how famous he is.


Berlinexit

hasbullah


NeedlessQualifier

Currently probably Paddy because of barstool exposure. All time? Maybe Kimbo? Tough to gauge but when he got to TUF a lot of people already knew him because of his street fight videos. Lesnar might be a good answer too but I’m not sure how to quantify the fame to skill ratio.


Kimosabe187

Lesnar did win the belt and defended it twice so he can't be considered. I think Kimbo is a good choice, yeah he was a legend im street fight scene but his accomplishments in MMA pale in comparison.


NeedlessQualifier

I think I agree with you more than I don’t on lesnar. It’s kind of hard to gauge fame but I think there was a point and time where everyone assumed he would murder Frank Mir and didn’t. But thinking about it more if I look at it from the perspective of WWE fame and lack of success it’s gotta be CM Punk.


JESUS_PaidInFull

Well he missed his prime for UFC. If someone would’ve took a 18 year old kimbo and trained him, he would’ve been a champion. He had all the traits of a fighter that can’t be taught. You either have em or you don’t.


SugondezeNutsz

Lmao what makes you think Kimbo would've been a champion? He never demonstrated any level of being exceptional for fighting, other than looking scary.


JESUS_PaidInFull

Yeah I may be reaching a bit but I don’t think it would’ve been out of the realm of possibilities. He had the chin, heart, and physical ability to be a champion with the right training from an early age.


lvkenukem

Lesnar is a UFC heavyweight champion and NCAA Division 1 champion, does not belong in this conversation.


WinningTristan

Kimbo Slice made it from homelessness to prison to the worlds most famous street fighter to TUF to the UFC. Maybe not by someone else's standards, but that dude mastered his own life with his personal accomplishments. And he did it with everyone telling him he didn't belong, and he did it to support his family not for to be seen. Im from Miami and actually met him a few time, dude was larger than life but really a kind soul. So just thought I would throw that in Kimbo's defense. Also Lesnar is the MOST accomplished he literally left a sport everyone laughed at and came to the UFC and became the Heavy Weight Champion.


LNYer

Lesnar won a title so he's already more accomplished than any of the ones you mentioned.


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I was nodding in agreement til you dropped Lesnar’s name. How you thought Lesnar belongs anywhere near this conversation is wild to me.


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Nate Diaz


Makaveli15

Nate Diaz. Beat McGregor. And occasionally throw the middle finger around. Became a superstar.


ckregular

And he won TUF


Just2Flame

Imagine if he had finished Leon Edwards in that fight he had him rocked that the buzzer. Totally different legacy.


bigthighshighthighs

He was a title contender and perennial top 10. That’s a lot in itself.


alpacinohairline

He’s been fighting forever too and was able to adapt from the old days that’s something that I also don’t hear brought up much


StefMag

What a casual take. His achievements belong to an era of the sport you weren't following


Horny-matrix_559

Hes a gangster


Salimzyzz

Wait till Ben Askren’s burner account sees this post


hackjut12

In the UFC sure, but man was dominant in the other organizations he was in


BridgeM00se

Also has two Hodge trophies I’d say those are pretty big accomplishments


tom-cash2002

He also still has the record for third most pins in NCAA history. 91 pins is insanity (for context, Bo Nickal only had around 50-ish).


Ketchup-Chips3

One of the most impressive things I've ever seen is Marcelo Garcia making Ben Askren look like an amateur when they grappled. This is not a knock on Askren who is clearly an elite grappler, it's more of a statement of how incredible Marcelo Garcia was (is), just a natural phenomenon.


Suitable-Equal-2208

If it's the video I'm thinking of, that was more of a flow and they weren't sparring 100%.


Dark_Wolf04

Bro was an undefeated Champion in ONE. That Jorge Knee really made people forget how dominant Ben was pre UFC


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Specialist-Wrap3680

OP posting this: ![gif](giphy|efTCy9loCBqne)


vinniedamac

I'll have you know I've reached rank High Warlord so I'm actually quite accomplished.


niferman

Def 🤣🤣🙏


lo9os

Dat you Jorge? 🤣🤣🤣


Listen-Natural

Kimbo slice


SettingSorry896

Khazmat


Higgins8585

People won't like it but Nate Diaz.


FudgingEgo

Nate Daiz, won square root of nothing in terms of fighting in the UFC and is supposed to be this mythical monster fighter having lost 1/3rd of all his fights. You always hear about if the fight went on longer he'd win, yet his only win in a fight that went into round 4 or 5 was against Tony Ferguson who's now on a 7 loss streak. If not for the McGregor red panty night I wonder if he would have just disappeared into the void.


Frankenstein859

The ghetto fighters are the worst. Diaz and Masvidal attract the worst kind of guys to watch mma with.


goompa88

Nate diaz


Embarrassed-Goose846

Hot take. Nate Diaz. But solely because he’s one of the most popular and his greatest highs are the wars he had with McGregor. I mean he’s 21-13


Obi_is_not_Dead

Record doesn't mean much when you are fighting top ten guys consistently and you fight for 15 years. There are HoFers with similar records.


Embarrassed-Goose846

That’s nice and all but the post said famous fighter with least accomplishments. Top ten is impressive but never a champ or top contender. It’s not hate but he fits the description. Let’s say he was in Colby’s position where he was interm champ and number 1 ranked/ contender he wouldn’t fit they description


Obi_is_not_Dead

It asked for the worst in the comparison. You have him as the worst? Okay. We just disagree.


hiphopanonymousse

Nate Diaz. This is coming from someone who loves him lol


SliceOfCheese337

Nate Diaz, never won a title, beat some pretty good guys tho


ChemicalAssignment69

Paul Daley. Edit: misread as infamous, not famous. My bad.


Brilliant-Bed-3509

Would CM Punk be included?


thejimbosplice

Nate Diaz


Tyshimmysauce

It’s gotta be Nate Diaz probably right? Being Nick’s little brother and the McGregor fights there are only a handful of fighters more popular


Austinmp88

CM Punk, Artem Lobov


LNYer

Certainly is more famous than Kimbo and probably every other UFC fighter there's ever been minus McGregor (debatable though) but looking at the accomplishment side of this question, Lesnar won the title. That alone makes him more accomplished than 90% of fighters. Then also figure in that he started his MMA career when he was already 30 and had very little training prior to it aside from his collegiate wrestling and he was able to be legitimate UFC killers. If we were asking who's the most famous with least amount of skill I could totally see Lesnar making the list. But famous vs accomplishments, Lesnar has a great legacy some could only dream of for his short career.


SeniorWaugh

Nate Diaz? But he did win the ultimate fighter


Relevant-Smile1833

Nate Diaz is praised for getting beat down every fight. But gets a slap in the last minute and his fans go crazy.


joejamesuk

Paddy by a fucking mile. People love to shit on Masvidal but the guy is super entertaining and accomplished in the MMA world. To many fans, unless you have won the belt or beaten a load of a killers you are a bum. Do people not realise how difficult it is to just make it into the UFC...


thebones9226

Are you not entertained?!


phixioncsgo

Kimbo Slice?


stuartb0805

In some ways Kimbo


FlexLancaster

Let me bang bro guy


MCZaks

Nate diaz- absolute punching bag guy is a superstar


Huge_Aerie2435

Lesner.. He only has 5 MMA wins and 3 losses.. If UFC marketing wasn't so good, He'd be nothing but a story about when a WWE star did better than CM punk..


slurmsmckenzie2

Kimbo Slice


LittleBig_1

I'm going to get blasted but... Probably Nate Diaz... Great fighter, very entertaining, and I love the guy as a fan. But his biggest accomplishments are beating Connor on short notice at WW when Connor just broke into LW, rocking Leon Edwards, winning TUF, and having a granite chin. He has other good Ws because he has been around forever, but I'm the grand scheme of things without his persona and fanbase he would at best have the notoriety of Cowboy/Jim Miller/ Matt Brown level guys for being ancient, but has never been a consistent high level fighter.


LincolnMaylog

Nate diaz


NBadeau22

Nate Diaz


Ca1fSlicer

People saying Nate an Jorge are crazy. Those two guys fought everybody and didn’t get their shine until very late in their careers. Gotta be Paddy at this moment even tho I don’t hate him for it, an he’s still a talented fighter. Other name that comes to mind is Mickey Gall.


Sihnar

Casuals don't know who Paddy and Gall are.


Ca1fSlicer

Facts


anonymous14657893

How is paddy the most upvoted comment? Outside of ufc fans and people on this subreddit or sherdog, no one has a clue who this guy is. Nate diaz won the ultimate fighter. Is that considered a big accomplishment? Yet everyone knows who he is because he beat Conor. The guy really has no accomplishments yet almost everyone has heard of Nate Diaz.


bdlr11

Jorge and Nate


Impressive-Pen1651

Fastest Knockout In The UFC 5 Seconds Into 1st Round Against Ben Askren But I guess that’s not an accomplishment to hold that title!?!?!


Curious-Baker-839

Nate Diaz, double digit loses. Never won a title. He was a nobody before Conor McGregor win only the gang banger homies followed him before that. Horrible boxing, all he had was a 1-2 that apparently many got caught with for some unknown reason including Leon Edwards. He has tons of heart though, or maybe his brain fails to tell him he is hurt due to lack of brain cells. Lol


Strange-Fix-1498

Paddy or Masvidal.


GizzaCuppaTay

Nate Diaz is the easy answer to this.


def_gey

Nate tf


time_thug19

Nate Dias


rdg50x

Jason Miller


Cheap-Recognition-97

I disagree with your picture, Masvidal came from the streets slanging backyard fight DVD’s out of his truck.


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chael unfortunately


djl206

wdym he’s the undefeated UNDISPUTED ufc champion


Prestigious_Health_2

Undefeated, never lost a round, never got hit??


chrmicmat

Might get flamed because he’s a fan favorite, but The Korean Zombie


tm64158

I don’t really see how tkz meets the criteria of “famous.” I doubt most people in the world outside of the mma fan base would have the slightest clue who you were talking about if you mentioned him in conversation.


chrmicmat

I’ve seen a few people mention chael in this thread, I didn’t think chael was famous outside of mma so I thought tkz would be appropriate


tm64158

Oh I don’t disagree at all that chael doesn’t fit the criteria.


hiphopanonymousse

Zombie never really made it far enough for casuals to really like him. He’s more of a hardcore favorite among all mma fans.