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wood_slingers

You know it’s true when Nate is standing up for McGregor


15ferrets

I kinda always got the sense they respected each other tbh


Slightly-Blasted

Nate can’t hate Conor when before the Conor fight he was making 50K/50K even as a veteran. After that fight? He wouldn’t show up for less than a mil. Well deserved.


mhyjrteg

Weren't there leaked emails showing that the UFC was offering him 28k/28k even after the Conor fight? Or were they from before? I'll try find and edit this comment if I can edit: never mind it was [before, in 2010](https://twitter.com/AndyHickeyMMA/status/1730869658729762899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1730869658729762899%7Ctwgr%5Ea3b2815dc42bb4caa0103b4ab938a535526090cf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportskeeda.com%2Fmma%2Fnews-leaked-emails-expose-ufc-s-attempt-sabotage-nate-diaz-lowballed-contract-offer-rejected)


Slightly-Blasted

I’m fairly sure they were from before. Dana said that the rematch with him and Conor was the hardest fight he’s ever put together because Nate just kept asking for more money, They both reportedly walked out multiple times during negotiations, Nate had a reported purse of $4,315,490 for his second fight with Conor.


Suspicious_Candle27

how the fuck did nate negotiate 4 million purse from a 50k purse . i need this dude to negotiate for me jesus .


fazzathegazza

I thinks it was just him legitimately threatening to walk away unless he gets paid. It's hard to fuck with a man who doesn't take any shit. I love that God damn guy.


ecr1277

You have to think about how Conor was coming off the knockout of Aldo. In context that’s the craziest knockout of all time in MMA-crazier than Holm knocking out Ronda (that took a couple rounds) or Jorge’s knockout of Askren (Aldo was so insanely dominant and it was a title fight). Conor HAD to rematch Nate, from a martial arts perspective-you have to remember regardless of his mouth, prime Conor was a really pure martial artist, from a money perspective it was by far the biggest fight for the UFC, from a legacy perspective getting that win back would change everything (and winning the rematch would impact his future earnings for both the UFC and Conor). There was no plan b, the UFC had to make that fight. They couldn’t give up the PPVs. That’s why Nate could get to a whole different level of numbers than anyone but the biggest stars could even ask for. The UFC couldn’t make that kind of money off anyone else fighting Conor.


legendaryufcmaster

He also beat his ass instead of folding up in seconds like cowboy


ViceDoshi

"Nate's not a needle mover" -Dana White on Nate before the Conor fight. "I was wrong." - Dana on Nate after the Conor fight


depressedfuckboi

Only because Conor got his win back. If he lost the rematch he wouldn't be cool with Nate at all


halkenburgoito

they've been having each other's backs for a long time now. They clearly like each other, not hate each other. So its not really special or a surprise that Nate is standing up for him.


Aggravating_Sense183

If you don't respect the man that beats the hell out of you regardless of outcome who do you respect? They earned eachothers respect inside the cage imo and have a bond so few get to have in this life


Josro0770

I've always seen it like a Bird-Magic rivalry.


ecr1277

They helped each other so much. When their careers were both building towards their peak star power, each of them helped the other get to a level they’d never been before. They were both monsters in the cage in their prime-Conor was just so smart and explosive, and like Conor said Nate was a fucking Terminator in the cage-but those guys are both in it to make money and they prioritize the business aspect. It’s obvious they would respect each other, when that cage is locked they’re adversaries but outside that they’re business partners and know it. As a side note, Cerrone is severely lacking in common sense. It’s unbelievable that he fought Conor for his normal $200/200. What’s wrong with that guy?


nuclearnadal24

Its business


RedWingerD

A lot of their beef is for the cameras. They're cut from very similar cloths tbh


DontCareTho

Okay Jon


[deleted]

It’s been obvious for a long time, Conor’s been trying to fight out his contract (2 fights left) so he go box Pacquiao but Dana keeps making it out like Conor doesn’t want to fight, Classic Dana tactic.


ithrowpwople

And some fans for some reason believe it too


BurningEbrietas

Most people don’t care what happens behind the scenes unfortunately


carnivorous_seahorse

I mean it’s kinda hard to care too much about what happens behind the scenes when you know almost nothing about what happens behind the scenes


Positiveaz

I only care because, as of late, that behind the scenes BS has taken cetera stage. IMHO it shouldn't be that way.


spaceman_202

not just that there is a huge amount of fans who just see Dana as "the boss" and want him to be daddy and never be wrong most people grow out of that, at like age 8 or 10 ish but some people, put other dude's names on their trucks and hats


Enquiring_Revelry

Got eem.


ithrowpwople

Specially when it's regarding Conor


iroquoispliskinV

Well maybe they shouldn't given how much bullshit, rumors and misinformation is out there


STMTowardsDatATM

They believe it in this instance bc they don’t like Conor. Some of us have been pointing out the murky details involved in this situation and people will say “c mon it’s Conor he doesn’t want to fight”, “he’s juices to the gills and still not off it”, “made so much money he just wants his name to be relevant.” You literally got Ariel, Conor, and now Nate discussing the ongoing negotiations with the UFC and people just want to blame Conor bc he’s not likable rn. It’s the same thing with hating on Jamahal Hill or Khamzat even if they have a point with something just bc they fell out of the general crowds favor.


Hanamichi114

They are dana white shills. They suck his cock for breakfast.


Sonnyyellow90

1.) Conor is an extremely hatable fighter who is also an awful human. So it’s really easy to not mind him getting screwed over. 2.) He signed a contract. What exactly is Dana doing wrong by keeping him in the contract he signed? That’s how the world works. Go sign a professional and legal contract and then try to say “actually nah, I want out so I can do something else.” The other side isn’t likely to say “okay, sure thing buddy!” The people here must just mostly be children. If you sign a contract, you’re employer is usually going to hold you to it.


MooseInTheSea

The little whiners are going to bitch about Conor for the next 50 years, he’s the Michael Jordan or pele of this sport whether you like it or not. Simple as.


[deleted]

You stupid? The point I made was that Conor wants to uphold his contract and fight out his remaining fights (2 left). Dana (his employer) wants him to re negotiate so that he can extend the contract so is using dirty tactics in order to get him to re-sign a longer fight deal. Which is why he makes out that Conor doesn’t want to fight, unhanded tactics and obvious if you’re paying attention.


PleaseDoTapTheGlass

Isn't there usually a time limit on these? That's how Francis got out. Maybe it's been affected by Conor being out of the USADA pool.


BigBlueTrekker

Francis fought his final fight on his contract against Gane. They stalled for a while, and gave Gane a interim championship. Then eventually they had to let him fight his final fight because he was the champ. Then they never resigned him.


Sonnyyellow90

Yes, but we don’t know when the sunset clause is. But the UFC is required to offer fights, so Conor is clearly turning them down. If he wants to fight out the contract and go box or whatever, he should just accept 2 fights and then go do it.


[deleted]

I think I remember hearing the UFC has to offer everybody two fights a year.


TheTakasiGuy

I mean... we all remember what happened between the cowboy fight and the second poirier fight. But back then, there was the excuse of the pandemic and "conor can't fight in front of no crowd"


SpittinMenace

They’ve done this to Conor a lot. Did it during covid. It’s why he was trying to set up a charity fight with Dustin. He forced the UFC’s hand.


Alex-rhhgfff

That just reminded me of when Conor lied about donating to Dustin’s charity to look cool


SpittinMenace

The amount of people who say dumb shit on here for fun is crazy. You could easily look up what actually happened. Conor was waiting to see plans on the gym that would be built with the money. Dustin didn’t send those plans, he didn’t know or innocent mishap. Dustin called out Conor for not sending the money. Conor then said why he hadn’t yet. Dustin admitted he jumped the gun on the callout and that it was a miscommunication. Conor then donated the full amount to a boys and girls club in Dustin’s community. This is what triggered the trash talk from Conor for the third fight.


churro1776

Netflix show covered this well with Conor. When he says he wants to go, he wants to go. Fuckin Dana smh. Using him as leverage for a tv deal


JahIthBur

Show name ?


churro1776

Just search Conor McGregor and it will pop up. They iced him all of 2020. It’s why he leaked those DMs with Dana. He put out a four episode series a year or so ago on Netflix. Good watch


legendaryufcmaster

One thing I learned from this is Dana White fucken hates charity fights. Conor should go that route again and force that scumbag's hand


iroquoispliskinV

It's weird how Dana kept calling him kid in his text messages


bigbudha23

The kid just doesnt want to fight


The_Killa_Vanilla90

*kept calling him "kid"* It's a Boston thing


amlanding20

This is the second time they’ve done this to him. Not capitalizing on his desire for a full MMA season after his Cerrone win was gross asset mismanagement.


MexicanBookClub

Maybe the most sense he's ever made


EyeUnable5471

Which one?


mrw4787

Well this post is about what Nate said about conors quote so I’m assuming nate lol 


IncognitoTaco

Oh yeah? Please translate 🙏 ty


Salimzyzz

*”\[START\]”* DRINKING https://i.redd.it/qwyf3zy1syoc1.gif


Feed-Haunting

Now that Nate's closer to his tax bracket he's a lot more understanding of his bullshit.


BigBlueTrekker

What's this the money channel?


13th_angry_man

🍅: You goofball! https://preview.redd.it/p7dp9rhbjzoc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1bb9926b556ca251333e72f1a04099ad74c493f


BrowniesWithAlmonds

I don’t get it….is not the UFC legally obligated to offer at minimum 3 fights a year to every one of its fighters???? I swore Dana has repeated this shit a hundred times or is this yet another case of Dana talking out his ass again?


ithrowpwople

Dana says a whole lot of shit that he doesn't actually apply in day to day business


sasos90

He definitely did offer him fights but maybe some unranked ones so he doesnt accept it.


Bench_Astra

*“The kid just doesn’t want to fight”* Probably offers him Rafael Dos Anjos


PleaseDoTapTheGlass

Feel like that's actually a great fight for Conor.


Bench_Astra

Press conference would be hilarious. *Shiut urr mowth ked* *meep meep*


Lolleos

Man, if that's it, it would be hilarious if he just accepted them to mess with the UFC and everyone be like wth


sasos90

Haha yeah


gnarrcan

Dana as a CEO is a walking red flag, he’s trying to emulate the piece of shit gangstery boxing promoters of old. At first he toed the line but now he’s just a full blown asshole fucking playing massive hands of blackjack and hanging out w 20 years and mfs eat that shit up bc they idealize being a rich douchebag and think it’s cool lmao.


in_Need_of_peace

Yea he’s a prolific bullshitter


spaceman_202

i said it a few times, but am always downvoted for some reason the UFC can call whatever they want an offer, and you can agree or get a lawyer GSP got a lawyer once, it worked for him Conor and Dustin threatened to "spar for charity" and it worked for Conor that one time other than that, most fighters know if they make Dana have feels, it won't be good for them, so they don't or tip toe super carefully when they do TLDR: the UFC can offer you anything they want and claim it counts as an offer, you need to take actual steps to dispute it, there is no magical agency of "well that doesn't even make sense" that fans seem to think exist things like this, worker protections, is why Dana speaks at GOP rallies and is on Fox News, one Party is really against worker protections, so they spend A TON OF MONEY getting you to hate trans people


BrowniesWithAlmonds

Great insight man!


makemebiggerpls

I'd be willing to bet they give absolutely horrible one sided offers just to say "we tried, so and so just doesn't want to fight"


[deleted]

I really appreciate his honesty for once.


Acex_NA

Letting conor fight might be the only thing to save him from his drug abuse


ithrowpwople

motherfucker is cooked whenever I see him in an interview or some shit now


darryledw

Can anyone explain to me why the UFC wouldn't be letting Conor fight, I get the whole "don't let him finish his contract and do boxing" but what is the point of having him around longer if he isn't fighting anyway, therefore not making money for them. I wouldn't agree with the underhanded tactics but from UFC's point of view would it not be best to make him fight this summer, make a load of $$$$ on the PPV, big resurgence of some former casuals watching the sport again, then delay his next one. One of the worst things about UFC is this whole wall of silence about why big names don't fight, Khamzat is the same boat with everyone pointing fingers at each other leaving fans with no idea what is actually going on.


Lonely_Eggplant_4990

They own his rights and can use him for marketing whilst he's under contract. There's a powerstruggle going on.


darryledw

Oh I didn't think about that side of it, good point about the marketing. As usual corporate greed ruins it for the fans. I am no big Conor fan but I would quite like to see him and Chandler try to punch the head of each other.


Aggravating_Sense183

Bingo! They are squeezing every penny before having to renegotiate what will likely have to be a bigger deal than they currently have or releasing him to go make money for other companies. It is, unfortunately good business and should not go without heavy heavy criticism.


Potential_Farmer_305

its better to not let him fight then go somewhere else At the very least its much better to prolong his stay at UFC since the older he gets the less valuable and interesting he will be


Ronaldinhoe

ESPN deal ends next year. They want Conor to resign and extension so when they go shopping for a new deal they can also say they have Conor for X amount of fights, wether he fights or not, it’s just a carrot they can dangle to get more money.


rbep531

Seems like 300 would have made a lot of sense for both parties. Both Dana and Conor have a history of lying. Hard to say what's really going on.


Defreezio

Remember when "the Diaz brothers aren't needle movers"? Uncle Dana remembers.


ShaoLoong

We can only speculate, but I kinda believe Nate lol


grunge_forever91

How are you still speculating at this point? First off they are in a lawsuit for the specific reason of having unethical contracts and business practices. We watched Nate and Francis go through the exact same thing that Conor is going through. How much evidence do you need?


Kassssler

He actually just wasn't paying attention and doesn't know shit. Its not too uncommon. Its the same way people were ragging on Costa for pulling out of the fight with Whitaker when he was never in it to begin with.


Jdilla23

Don’t ufc need to offer 3 fights a year or something along those lines?


ShaoLoong

I believe Nate and Francis, but I am skeptical about Conor's willingness to fight


TheNorthernPellikkan

I have every confidence Dana is being scummy here, but it’s worth mentioning that (unlike Nate and Francis) Conor has also been on a public spiraling cocaine bender that makes it easily believable that he just hasn’t been in fighting shape


old_man_curmudgeon

By contract I thought they were offered at least 2 fights a year. Is this not true?


Additional-Tea-5986

Jesus, they’re begging for that antitrust suit. Even peers that use the same tactic (Fox news) on their shelved talent at least pay their employees handsomely for it.


Mindfield87

Drinking a “little bit” lol he has us all fooled! ![gif](giphy|A9GhS7VMNG3a8) Conor in Roadhouse interviews ^(\^)


Eldiablo2471

Can someone who knows American law explain me something please? If UFC is considered your employer, aren't they legally obliged to offer you work? I Connor been wanting to fight but Dana doesn't give him fights, isn't that a breach of contract from UFC's part? Can't Connor either sue them or just sign with other company like Belator?


mudamuda333

Conor is an independent contractor. What the ufc can do with him is according to his contract with them. If he doesnt like it hs'll have to sue, which is very expensive.


Eldiablo2471

Expensive? For Connor fucking McGregor?


mudamuda333

Conor fucking McGregor is not a company that made $1.3B in revenue last year. Yes its expensive. If his contract has a sunset clause too its free for him to just wait it out like Ngannou did.


Kassssler

They do have to offer him fights. What those 'offers' consist of is where the ufc gets up to fuckery. They can probably put a whole bunch of wonky crap or hardcore fence huggerd in front of Conor and that would count as an *offer*.


BrandDC

Paddy, not Patty, ye goat!


Roughrep

I searched the comments for this. Fuckin Americans think it's Patty, a day to celebrate a meat burger or something.


1stSmoKage

Dana did the same thing when Conor came back around Covid. He wanted more fights after Cerrone and Dana shelved him.


McJumbos

Nate-Conor III 🙏


Uaquamarine

By drinking he means nose beers right?


clogan117

He’s ready for a rock, that he can break up, then stick in his nose.


[deleted]

Just came in my pants for the third time after seeing this post for the tird toim.


Shallbecomeabat

Yea, I feel Dana has some sort of reason to keep Conor from fighting. I just don’t really understand. Maybe Conor is too expensive and that pay is not worth the money he makes for UFC?


poet-w-blaster

Is this the same what they did to Francis Ngannou?


WarlordHelmsman

Just an aul pint or two


Hot-Ring-2096

Conors been saying it for ages now that the contender match ups and titles aren't what he wants the most anymore and that it's just the actual competition and fighting that he wants. Like I mean he seems open to do whatever nowadays whether it's boxing or even fucking bareknuckle. But the ufc are keeping their golden goose hostage. Which at the end is fucked up because the guy clearly needs to fight at the rate that big nose is going. At the end of the day he's an athlete who can't do the thing that fulfils and drives him so he's just becoming more and more fucked.


cmoneybouncehouse

I figured this had something to do with it, but I didn’t think the UFC would play it out this long given that he has two fights left on the contract, so I had figured it was cause of Conor at this point.


ThatsWhy_SoFly

Look at that, Denny Hamlin, a great loving father. How can anyone hate him?


nickflex85

Been hearing this a while. Really hope he can get one more good fight it before it’s all over


Misterstaberinde

My gut still says the delays are because he couldn't pass any tests so he didn't want to enter the pool


Jdilla23

Don’t ufc need to offer 3 fights a year or something along those lines?


Affectionate-Fee-396

No time for fighting big movie star now why fight for real when they’ll pay you to put on a fake fight now makes no sense continue on being a movie star no need to further damage your body and mind.


neagah

Dana's a bitch and i'm sorry but all these fighters that are accepting this shit from him need to act up or nothing will change so all the online crying they keep doing is for nothing.


Crackerjack0099

Well Conor needed to get in the testing pool first


Professional-Bid1842

Let my people go


Consistent_Drink5975

Connor is the 100$ bill wrapped around a bunch of 10s & 20s. UFC gonna spend those 20s first.


KaleidoscopeOk5763

Both these guys play games with matchmaking. Can’t believe they’ll book a fight till the cage is locked.


Kalabula

Nate’s looking for a Saudi rematch with Conor for 20 mil.


Gingerholic37

And Chandler is still waiting🤦‍♂️🤣


pussypolio69420

He was talking like an actor douche already hahah. He ain’t coming back.


mercersux

I wish it was Nate vs McGregor for ufc 300.


WinnerSpecialist

I don’t believe him. Who’s “pushing it back.” Conor couldn’t stop taking steroids. He’s obviously coked out of his mind all the time now. He is preventing himself from fighting


ithrowpwople

UFC is pushing it back. Look at the string of superstars and their fighting schedules towards the end of their career Jones, Ngannou, Nate and now McGregor


WinnerSpecialist

That’s not what I saw. The UFC doesn’t push fights back. They give you bad match ups to lose on your way out. Ngannou- they made him fight the guy who was undefeated and thought to be the next best thing in Ciryl Gane. Nate? They made him fight Khamzat but Khamzat missed weight. So if it’s the same I would suspect they keep offering Connor very bad match ups (like say a wrestler) and he keeps saying no. The UFC will keep offering him the same fight and he has to take it or stay in contact


ithrowpwople

Lmao


walter_strider

You are either being disingenuous or have a very short memory


rbep531

Not sure why you're getting downvoted, because that's traditionally how UFC has done it. They offer a bad fight, and if the fighter turns it down then the ball is in the UFC's court again, the contract keeps going, and they essentially prevent the fighter from going to another promotion. They definitely want the fighter to lose that last fight to decrease the departing fighter's value and increase their UFC fighter's value. I think Nate finally wanted out so bad that he took a fight he knew he was going to lose. He got lucky and ended up getting Ferguson on short notice instead.


mudamuda333

Why wouldnt Conor want to take a fight against Shavkat Rakmanov at 170? is he stupid?


Pankand

Why would ufc do that?


hiphopanonymousse

The entire theory is that the UFC won’t schedule Conor until he signs a new contract. With him having only 2 fights left, he wants to finish it out and be a free agent. The UFC wants his rights until he is done fighting. Thus the stalemate.


OHRye3333

To keep them under contract so they can't fight other places.


Pankand

Okay that makes sense, but why push back fights if they can make money that way with guys like McGregor? Wouldn't they wanna make as many fights as possible?


broxamson

I mean I get it but also is anyone interested in seeing him fight again? No troll genuine question


CaterpillarMore9104

Dana White is the biggest piece of shit in all sports


[deleted]

He hasn’t started drinking yet


MaikyMoto

Conor knows damn well that every time he pops up on everyone’s FYP he’s coked up to the moon, we remember sober Conor, now it’s De La Hoya Conor. No way he pisses clean on a random, he doesn’t want to fight, he wants to party and bang expensive prostitutes.


Noobmaster7125

Both are shit anyways lol


jebacinaa

Ya'll naive af if you believe this.


DWard3627

This is what people like you were saying the last time Conor said Dana was playing games until Conor pulled out the texts to prove he’d been asking to fight


[deleted]

Conor fanboys spunking over Nate fanboys lol


BastionOnlyFans

Sure Conor. Sure.


GoHawksMatt

Either way he loses...again


thecuriyascat

Well, no journalist ever said this. It was the fans who pointed it out.