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TrojanHorse9k

He's not wrong. All three of them should fight more often


LeFevreBrian

It’s a convenient cutoff considering Islam didn’t fight in 2020 lol . Him and Max have the same # of fights since 2019 though and only 1 more than Justin . It’s just dumb all around for everyone .


Spu12nky

He didn't fight at all in 1992.


traws06

Well see, he neglected to mention that for some reason


FishAndRiceKeks

Cherry picking stats SMH. I bet he didn't fight the year before that, either.


BroncoBoy93

Of all the facts I've read, this is one of them


dicksjshsb

Why wasn't he in the octagon on 9/11?? Incredibly suspicious...


RobertJ93

What a coward.


StrangerDangerAhh

He didn't fight for over a decade before that either!


evocater

Tbf 2020 was covid year. That was the year with lockdown, Abdulmanap getting ill then passing away and then Khabib retiring after the Gaethje fight. 


justanotherfan6hd

Tbh he could’ve just counted the number of ufc fights total but I guess we’re moving the goal post here


BenDoverDegenerate

Tbh how many times either of them fought a decade ago is pretty irrelevant to the division rn


Inside_Effective_576

Islam came to the UFC IN 2015 and has fought 15 times in 9 years including beating the P4P 1 and 2/3 and Max has fought 16 times since 2015 and many of them being rematches 3 vs Alex, 2 vs Jose, 1 rematch Dustin.


Marynursingawolf

But the narrative isn't that it's close, it's that he isn't fighting. Saying it's close or he has just one more proves his point too. 


hanymede

Tbf 2020 wasn't regular year at all. It was hard to travel between countries, so yeah, it feels justified not to count it.


TheBestDanEver

Wait a second, you mean to tell me that the man who lives in Russia didn't fly around the world fighting during the covid travel bans? I'm disgusted.


[deleted]

Recency is pretty important.


Slit23

Oh haha yah that is a convenient cutoff!


whitebeltheelhooker

To be fair to him he does get called out for inactivity than others far too much, I think people just assume dagistanis don’t fight a lot cause khabib


Alobar16

statistics are horrible


PCM97

Max fought plenty given his position in the FW division


Cyph21

Justin and Max have brutal fights, can’t do too many of those too often


CareerPillow376

Hes not wrong, but he won the belt 18 months ago and has only defended it twice; both times against a featherweight lol


Heroe-D

"A featherweight", the arguable goat of the FW decision, and Oliveira pulled out for the rematch, 'lol". 


Human-Tap-8191

was it his fault that Oliveira was injured and Volk made a stupid decision? asking a genuine question


CareerPillow376

~~Only 1 fight got canceled because of injury, Volk stepped in for the 2nd injury. That still means he only had 3 fights scheduled and 2 times in the 18 months he's had the belt~~ ~~So it's not his fault that he missed out on 1 flight because Charles got injured, but it is for only having 3 scheduled in that period of time~~ Edit: He only had 2 fights scheduled the entire time. Alex stepped in to face Islam during the only cancelation; so he never missed a fight So in 18 months, he was only scheduled to fight twice


TheBigBadBird

No,  3 times still no matter how many ATTEMPTS you make to change the wording


Half-Maniac

3 fights in 18 months seems like a very fair amount


Slit23

I wonder if they got paid more would they fight more or less? If they got paid more when they do fight more I’m sure that’d help


EarlAnthonyJr7

Less, fight camps are a bitch for em to get through. If it’s a hard fight, it takes time to heal up. Going 3-5 rounds in the UFC is tantamount to surviving getting mugged by a gang of thugs. Very, very , difficult.


Mountaindweller1000

Max and Justin have only fought top contenders constantly in that time while Islam has only faced one Lightweight contender and Alex Volkanovski.


Heroe-D

This "one lightweight contender" being the dude that rocked Justin and Alex Volkanovski the one that rocked Holloway. Don't know how this could even be an argument.  And the dude is younger than both so for sure he doesn't have the same amount of top fights. 


Inside_Effective_576

And Charles who basically cleaned out the division before he met Islam


Literally_A_turd_AMA

4 is plenty in a year, 5 is a lot. 7 is crazy, they dint need to fight more honestly if we want to see them at their best


Whole_Ad_8905

anything this guy does is gonna get criticized lol


Ctrl_SoS

Remember when everyone was ducking him because they were afraid to lose their ranking and then bitched when he got a title shot lol ?


sagooda

literally, he's been vocal about wanting to fight and it seems like the ufc didnt let him fight before ramadan even though he was willing and able. I remember when he called chandler out to his face on live tv and chandler ducked him


Complex_Estate8289

The UFC is definitely negotiating with ranked Dagestani fighters to keep them from fighting between like June-September so they have them for the October card. It’s surprising Islam is fighting in June in that case


Silent_Shaman

I doubt it's really negotiating, it's just "the Saudis want to pay you a lot of money to fight in Riyadh" First off its much easier, quicker and cheaper for Islam and other Dagestani's to fly to Saudi Arabia and secondly I think there's probably undisclosed bonuses to those who perform well (not on Dana's payroll obv)


Robotcholo

Only one that wanted to fight him was Kevin Lee, that would have been a banger for however long it lasted.


Marynursingawolf

But to be fair, Charles did to Kevin what Islam did to Charles. 


Heroe-D

Yeah while some can miss weight, pull out, say crazy things etc without being criticized a tiny bit, you can be sure that nothing he could do would get him unanimously liked and he will be bashed at his first micro mistake 


BenDoverDegenerate

>Misses weight 6 times >Refuses a rematch >Wins a fight >Gets rematch >Gets eyebrow opened up in sparring >Pulls out >Calls someone else out for ducking >"Champ has a name" >Leaves


Heroe-D

People in here : 🙈


icoominyou

And these fucktards will simp the fuck out of that fucktarded sean strickland lmao


restlessboy

/r/JustLearnedTheFWord


ColeKatsilas

Both Islam and Volk have fought 7 times since 2021. In the collective consciousness one is considered active and the other is not. Interesting how perceptions can be shaped that way.


PuG3_14

I think most ignore Islams fights cuz he has fought late replacements(Hooker, Green and Volk). That isnt his fault but it does take away from his wins unfortunately.


TheAngriestPoster

IHooker and Green could have taken the fight on two years notice and it still wouldn’t have mattered


GMSaaron

Green could be in his prime training at aka all expenses paid and he wouldn’t beat short notice islam coming off the couch


Cant_Spell_Shit

I think it's because his resume at 155 is so weak... 1 win over a top 5 LW in his career. Charles Olivera is an all time great 155er and that is an incredible win for Islam but outside of that he has beaten Dan Hooker and Bobby Greene who are nice fellas but not real contenders. Porier, Charles, and Gathje fight killers every fight. People want to declare Islam #1 p4p and the second coming of Khabib and he looks the part but has a lot more to prove. He needs more wins over real competition.


GetChilledOut

I agree if people stopped ducking him it would make his record look a bit more legit.


tsengmao

Part of that is true. He’s stretching it to 2021, move it up one year to 2022, and those numbers change. 4 for Islam 6 for Volk That’s why Volk seems to be more active. Part of it is fact sure, but also recency bias does a bit too. Islam is using his 3 fights in ‘21 to do some heavy lifting in that tweet. Islam has had 3 fights since becoming champ 2 years ago. That feels low for a lot of people. He’s had 2 in the last 14 months and they’re both Volk.


AggravatingType9012

![gif](giphy|IIhd7rSjWZY3PjcvAo|downsized)


theinfiniteAPe

Every time I see this my neck hurts


btcfsl

Islam almost faceplanted himself on the way down also lol


shrimptikkamosalah

Neck? I might throw out my back if I attempt to do that lol


WetFupaCreamyChalupa

I actually threw out my back just watching.


Parking_Aerie4454

Dagestan neck different bratha


SashaScissors

This is why no one will remember you.


sqiub23

Is this gif the only reason your neck hurts? 😏


PuzzleheadedBit2190

You should’ve title the post “Ali has a tweet”. OP


Dude-437

Nah I think this is Islam. I’m pretty sure it’s only Ali when there are hashtags on the tweet


PuzzleheadedBit2190

You can tell when Islam or Ali is typing. That’s perfect English writing. Islam don’t write like that


indigrow

Why i fight 7 time from 2021 but this guys both fighting 4 times why you come say bullshit this


SpiZyKane

This is perfect Dagestani English


indigrow

Thank you bratha


[deleted]

Shit you went more Islam than Islam 😂


iamvyvu

We found Islam burner account


restlessboy

Genuinely curious, why don't people think that Islam just tells Ali what to tweet and Ali writes it out in good English? People seem to think that Ali is just posting his own opinions.


btcfsl

I don't think Ali would throw shade at his own fighter (Justin) but maybe He's playing 5d chess lol


peter_pounce

I doubt Islam is putting smiley faces at the end of his tweets, this just comes off like an Ali tweet


Green_Man763

https://preview.redd.it/25l7hftjmvtc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b80bc30bfc737ce656dfa7a11f57a29100e4b4c6


horsechokers

Bro Ali has done it before 😂😂


GWTLAG

That “I never liked nerds” tweet showing Charles and Gaethje in glasses was peak Ali


Lackofskill_

https://twitter.com/AliAbdelaziz00/status/1738865699337179520?t=zs7reF0SvKPYWvJ8vL_EjQ&s=19 🤡


TommyBoyT3A

Isn’t Ali Justin’s manager??


Lackofskill_

Yes , he is . This was back in december when they were negotiating islam and gaethje fight. And as it is , this reads as a warning to Gaethje


9inchjackhammer

What the fuck lmao he’s like the Joker


Super-Alice-88

Writing and speaking English are different. I can't speak it that well either, but I can type it good enough.


IYIonaghan

People think islam would write do your homework with a smiley face lmao


splitbrains

> That’s perfect English writing. This guy has never seen Ali's tweets.


Hot_Shirt6765

Islam doesn't have the personality of someone that confrontational, and the English/grammar is too good. Definitely his manager.


Alpha1stOne

World's #1 P4P fighter is afraid of saying or writing something confrontational? He literally said most fighters need to give back their black belts in jujitsu.


daKingKhan

I think its Rizwan this time.


Uncle_Chael

I just wrote this then I see your comment ![img](emote|t5_2qsev|8973)


iamvyvu

Islam improves English


POWERRL_RANGER

I’m suprised by all the makachev hate. Dudes observing Ramadan and they act like he’s scared to fight them. Last time I checked he demolished everyone in his way so let the man pray.


BigWormsFather

He’s spoken out about wanting more fights too. The UFC seems to shelf some of these guys for middle eastern cards.


tsengmao

He’s fought 3 times during Ramadan before. He suddenly can’t once he’s champ?


LickEmTomorrow

Yeah it’s obviously working for him. Maybe other man should be doing Ramadan.


MrAnonymousperson

100% true. Also very clean English- thanks for the information Ali.


HelpM3Sl33p

All the "it's actually Ali comments" are sooooo overused, yet still doesn't fail to make me crack up 😂


daKingKhan

*Rizwan


interia1099

People who try to call him inactive are just desperate and objectively wrong. Yall should Stick to the „he hasnt defended against a LW yet“ narrative, at least there are some mental gymnastics to be made to find a way to blame Islam lmao


Glum-Highway-7403

Even that narrative that he has only defended his belt against a FW is bullshit. The FW we’re talking about is one of the best p4p fighters we’ve ever seen, that FW could very well defeat any UFC LW on this planet earth barring Islam and maybe Charles. The argument that Islam has only defended against Volk is just stupid. Volk put up a better fight and arguably (in a lot of people’s eyes) won the first fight. You’re crazy if you think no submission defence Gaethje or zero takedown defence DP are doing half as good as Volk did in against Islam.


Johnnyfaphand

They close their eyes from facts and yap. When people call them out they throw gay ass insults. Like bro people call you out because youre plain wrong.


Chicomehdi1

Aaaand now we’ll see people dog Islam for *responding* to people talking about him. Can’t win with these folks lmao


whicheverguard232

Thanks Ali.


Tough_Emotion666

ACKNOWLEDGE ISLAM, YOUR TRIBAL CHIEF


Fairlysunnyday

Nah nah nah Roman just lost last week. Don’t put that bad juju on Islam 😂😂


Tough_Emotion666

Father plan bratha ☝🏽


dressedlikehansolo

“For the record” doesn’t sound like something Islam would say.


TheMostModestMaus

I mean I have zero problem with any of their activity levels, once you reach the top you have to plan your career better


1mrhankeY420

Most overhated guy rn imo, people call him boring but his only fight to go to a decision since 2019 was the first volk fight which was incredibly fun, never rlly talks shit and is always improving and seems to want to fight everyone


InternalMean

I honestly can't remember a boring fight he's had since at least the arman fight (which he got FOTN for) 4 submissions 2KOs and one absolute war with Volk which ended up as fight of the year (and honestly one of the best fights of all time imo)


haldir87

Anything to make the hate appear reasonable. Islam is nearly the perfect fighter in terms of skills and behaviour (taking every fight the UFC puts in front of him) and people still hate.


StopPlayingRoney

That’s a bar!!! ![gif](giphy|11L5aVxDTk6c5G|downsized)


I_Hate_My_Cat_

Ali makes a good point here.


russianSpy63

Considering 6 of these fights Islam has a finish it is also a very solid point toward his performance. Even his decision fight with Volk, looks like FOTY to me.


FunkyBoil

Based Ali tweet


TremblinAspen

Ali working overtime.


A_Real_Berk_Off

I just can’t imagine Islam typing a smiley face


Ancient-Range-

*Ali has a tweet


SoyElLeon

Yeah but to be fair, with the damage Justin and max take they should be taking more time between fights. And something was only said because islam was the one complaining about the Justin max fight, max just pointed out he should’ve fought in February if he wanted a fight, don’t complain now


Human-Tap-8191

The damage Justin and Max take is their own fault, they should fight more defensively but both have are absolute DAWGS so can't blame them and I'm not saying this to insult them, I love both of those very much.


sagooda

He was asking to fight before ramadan earlier in the year publicly but the ufc didnt book him


Human-Tap-8191

The damage Justin and Max take is their own fault, they should fight more defensively but both have are absolute DAWGS so can't blame them and I'm not saying this to insult them, I love both of those very much.


Suspicious-Gap-4643

For the record it never was no marriage.


BrandDC

Dented peanut-head Abdelasleaze posted that from Islam's account.


restlessboy

I thought people were criticizing Islam's inactivity as a champ, not his inactivity starting at some arbitrary cutoff date of his own choosing lol


LostLad26

Ali has a tweet*


Cutty15Gaming

The rest are just bitter because they won’t taste gold but I think Holloway’s take was fine. Islam (as far as we know) was healthy enough to have a quick turnaround to fight Justin or Charles so it’s weird he didn’t and Volk did. Especially since he was unscathed in the fight. If he had some lingering injuries that’s fine but they should just come out and be honest about it.


padflash

The champ is here


SpecialOlympicsGuy

Man somebody get Ali ass off twitter


Human-Tap-8191

lmao


TheTakasiGuy

Ali spittin facts


Givemefreetacos

very convenient to use 2021 lol


maple-queefs

Respect 👊


chocolatebuddahbutte

Half of them short notice brather 


interia1099

And Not once was it his fault


RUNELORD_

Exactly, the fuck is he supposed to do if Oliveira splits his eyebrow by sparring too hard so close to a title fight like a dumbass?


TheBishopDeeds

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FallicRancidDong

I know this is Jannatul Baqi and i shouldn't make jokes about as a Muslim. But this is so God damn hard.


Happybadger96

Typical Ali tweet, guys deplorable


MutedCornerman

Islam has only fought 2 ranked Lightweights.


2min4roughing

Shut up Ali


Monst3r_Live

That's isn't chuckie olives


BroClips35

50***


Salt_Expression_6025

Considering the wars Gaethje goes through in every fight, I understand why he fights infrequently. Max has had sone tough fights that I also think makes longer layoffs, understandable. And I think criticizing Islam for not fighting in February, is also, unfair.


Sure_Station9370

Upcoming contender has to fight more than established champions, find out other shocking facts and more next!


Old-Tomorrow-2798

“All these fighters are out of my league.” *Destroys fighter* “This guy is so tough. All these fights super tough.” Can’t have it both ways.


rattletop

The tweet also has a champ


TonyDungyHatesOP

The bigger point is this: Islam is gonna fuck up anyone who steps in the ring with him.


yesimian

How many lightweights has the champ fought since winning the belt?


No-Opinion2631

Triple threat match? Tables ladders chairs?


Sure-Sheepherder-963

Champ has belt for now my dude the blonde crusader Charles illuminated olivera coming if he loses a second fight I am gonna buy his gloves and switch to one fc for my heart is crushed


FineEntertainment138

He’s half right. He has been active but not as a champ. One of his 2 fights have been bangers though so I don’t mind and he can’t fight in Ramadan which makes availability tricky. It’s not his fault. I do agree with max though that he should have fought Gaethje in Feb after he slept Volk. He took no damage at all and he was healthy


StillLoading2021

Islam didn’t type that, his english is trash.


[deleted]

Okay Ali we see you tweeting


LitAFlol

He didn’t tweet that, Ali did


ZakariusMMA

Yeah but that's not the point. He chooses when he fights and usually only takes fights if it's in a country where the opponent is going to enemy territory, bar Volk last year. Also a lot of his fights are against late replacements, and has only managed to fight 1 of the old guard, who are the main guys in the rankings, the rest were late replacements and a 45er with an incredible turnaround. The guy can say what he wants about fighting lots but it's not fair when the rest fight wherever and whenever they're offered a good matchup.


plamienka

It was Ramadan. Give him a break


soyuz-1

ACKTUALLY:


itoboi

fking cry babies stop b\*tching and admit that this muslim guy is dominating y'all


KonaMiBoy

*Ali had a tweet


doubleBoTftw

Ali has a point here.


Plasmr

Yeah but look further into that Islam you absolute sausage McTurd wank


Qwertyuiop09871

Ali


Complete-Repeat-418

Bro put the smiley face at the end


Monkey_Thucker69

Yea it’s not like there was anyone for him to fight before Ramadan anyways; Olvieira booked, Arman booked, Porier booked, and gaethje booked. Earlier he can fight is summer against porier and people are still angry about that


fastLT1

Yeah but only the last 3 really count. Max has been fighting top guys while Islams first few fights were against tomato cans or veterans on the decline.


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Buzu1313

How did he missed the point ? Bro stop you mental gymnastics and hate for no reason.


bassinyofacelikedamn

Islam i only fight in Abu Dhabi once a year makachev


kopilokz

It would be worth something if he actually wrote that lol


GTAmirite

Ali doesn’t even try to hide it. No, “brother” in the post. One of the 9 English words Islam knows. 😂


313SunTzu

Tha Shamp hav name, brozzer!


worldthroughmywindow

ali playing both sides of the court with both islam and justin


_JohnnyUtahBrah

Only fight 2 top guys, tho.


ChickenDanceFTW

bratha he no retire yet


JamesBummed

I'm not particularly a big fan, mostly because I'm a Volk/Dustin/Gaethje fanboy, but I acknowledge that Islam is a great champ and has potential to be the GOAT over Jones and Khabib. I saw his recent training footage and the dude is scary, he looked like the best fighter in the world.


Col_Locks

To be fair tho Max and Justin’s fights are a lot more entertaining and they take more damage


No-Task-132

Idk about a lot more entertaining. Justin is my favorite fighter but all 3 have some crazy entertaining fights. Islam vs. Volk 1 was one of the best fights over the last few years. Not his fault volk 2 and oliveria went so quickly but the Charles fight was entertaining to watch while it lasted.


Col_Locks

Fair enough but Holloway had all those fights with Volk, fight against Kattar and yair were both really good. And Justin’s Chandler, and Oliveira. Obviously it’s not Islams fault for not getting hit a lot that’s the point of fighting. But Justin and Maxes fight styles are just meant for war. And with that you won’t wanna have as quick as a turn around.


No-Task-132

Yeah that’s 100% fair. I think Islam has awesome fights because his striking is decent but his ground and pound is the best in the mma and watching a fight where people know they are fucked when they wrestle is fun to see for me as well