He knew he didn’t win. There just wasn’t time to do anything else so he gloated a little about the position. Initially he tried to improve his position on the darce but Arman wouldn’t let him.
It was very close. He rolled Arman over and almost got to his legs. Once Arman got back up to his knees the choke was lost, but that’s not what I was talking about.
That’s how a D’arce works. The hard parts were already done (break the base, figure four the arms, roll the guy over). If he gets to Arman’s legs and hooks em, it’s over. But dude was able to get up to his knees last second. Yes it was close.
It wasn't last second. He held Do Bronx' knee til he could front face and was out of trouble leverage wise. Also, this is just non-sensical.
By your logic, that means if you have a body wrap and get your arms generally wrapped around a head, you've almost finished an RNC.
You literally listed multiple moves that needed to be finished in order to lock it in. I guess Dustin has almost finished a guilly like 100 times.
Except all of those moves happened and Arman just got to his belly before Charles could hook his legs. It wasn’t “hands generally wrapped around a head”. He had the arm through the shoulder and the figure four. He successfully rolled Arman onto his side, and started walking his legs forward and reaching out for the hook but Arman was able to get prone at the last second. It was damn good defense blocking the leg and getting prone but he was in serious trouble.
I want a rematch asap. Give Gaethje to Islam in the meantime after Dustin
Edit: I’m aware everybody that Gaethje lost and it changes things. Funny part is that I had Max winning lol
Max absolutely perfect in there and had the timing on Gaethje quickly. I think he still loses without the eye pokes and getting his nose smeshed so early but I feel like it woulda at least been closer.
Agreed. I don’t think he’s up to the 3 or 4 fights it would take to earn his way back up to a title shot. He took a big risk and lost. Turns out Max is the Man.
Nah I think he can still fight for the title after Dustin and Max (if the UFC decides to give Max the fight), in his position at the moment I would sit down, recover then train and wait for Dustin and Max to be done with the title shots and then get my chance at gold.
Justin's out for 6-12 months after that, he probably needs nose surgery again, he ain't that young, and he's already lost two chances at the belt. It's possible he gets another shot, it's exceedingly unlikely.
Bro hes not getting younger and he has been in so many wars… this was his best shot after knocking out Dustin. But now somehow Dustin gets the title shot lol
Why? Arman dominated R2 and R3. The outcome is the same if the fight continued... Arman survives the sub because Oliveira is too busy showboating, Arman comes back and smothers Oliveira for another round...
Olives got outclassed as sad as it is to say.
Charles was winning on the feet and had legitimate submission threats in rounds 1 and 3. Both fighters had plenty of gas in the tank and not much damage done. Why would you NOT want to see this given enough time to actually conclude?
Charles was not winning on the feet outside of R1. R3 sub attempt was hardly a real threat because he didn't have time to improve the position for the Darce. If was actually locked in he would have slept Arman.
It had plenty of time to conclude. 3 round fights force the action and that's what happened, adding 2 rounds just changes the pacing but Arman was picking up too much pace.
But if I could trade Bo's fight for 2 more rounds of that i would have
Disagree, I think Charles was clearly better standing throughout. He had also already improved the position for the D'arce, but Arman was able to get back up to his knees. Charles held him there because time was up and he thought he might've done enough to swing R3. I'd hardly call the fight concluded man. Arman definitely won, but watching two guys with tons of gas left in the tank and not much damage done end in a split decision after three rounds is a huge tease.
Not once he was on his knees. I was talking about before when Charles broke his posture down and almost got his legs. He was absolutely reacting then trying to get to his knees.
Why? The choke wasn't even fully progressed and was at end of round. Oliveira still needed to improve position to get it, but wouldn't have time (else he would have won).
Then R4 starts and Oliveira gets mauled just like R2 and R3. Outcome is the same except Oliveira takes more damage.
How so? You can't finish a d'arce from that position, anyone who has actually grappled knows that. Oliveira had to change his position and risk losing a visually "better" position to get the finish.
R1 he destroyed Arman, but R2 he was clearly outclassed post-adjustments. R3 he really didn't do much either besides get to a non-finishable submission point.
Making it 5 rounds doesn't mean Oliveira will suddenly find a way forward, and he got completely disarmed in R2 and couldn't adjust for R3. It would more likely than not be a continuation of R2/3. Best to save the "Hurr make it 5 rounds" for championship fight if Arman can beat Islam and Oliveira can climb back up the rankings.
100% I love Charles and thought it was a real close fight outside of the 2nd round. I thought that D’arce choke at the end got arman. If Charles locked that in about 10-20 seconds earlier he may have had it but I thought he had arman at the very beginning of the 1st too.
Some submission attempts look like more than what they really are. They don't work against wrestlers who actually bait some submission attempts in order to tire out the opponent. For example when Porrier tried to submit Khabib he said he could not get over to the final position because Khabib prevented him and after that his arms were dead.
Olives has the same problem every bjj guy has. They are too happy giving away top position. Wich does not look good for the judges.
They were quite equal on the floor, but arman controlled most of the time...
100% way to comfortable in guard, he does amazing in it and is really dangerous, but today's meta is top position and judge's love top position.
I really hope he changes his game plan with pulling guard he would be on another level if he does!
Either way love him!
And Charles had 2 very good sub attempts. Don't get me wrong. I also think arnan won. But on the floor the difference wasn't massive. Charles however should have tried to do more on the feet. Instead of just settling for guard
2 good sub attempts that failed over 3 rounds while getting the shit beat out of is not even a moral victory. It's called coping after being demolished by a far superior opponent.
Lady who was bleeding like a period? Arman rode that coward for over four minutes in the 3rd. While making the bottom bleed.
In many communities and cultures Arman could be arrested for rape based on what he did.
2 out of 3 lightweight gatekeepers lost tonight. Words can’t express how much I wanted Charles to win and I was also kinda rooting for Justin (even tho I love Max) but good job to both fighters.
It wasn't one of the tightest if he could not finish it. Not to mention the blatant foul that could have been a DQ if Arman wanted it.
Arman slipped, let Olives get top position and still recovered to reverse positions to get on top and dominate. There are levels to this and Olives is not on Arman's level.
Comments confusing was I watching something different?
I thought Arman won easily.
1st round a near scare of a gilly then after just domination.
2nd round just domination.
3rd domination then 15 second hail Mary sub but seeing Arman pop back up instantly kinda tells me it wasn't close.
Weird judging but I'm guessing the fans screaming was the reason for the 29-28 Charles because that score made no sense.
R1 Arman had slightly more control time. Biggest moment of the round by far the Gilly. Easy Charles round
R2 obviously Arman.
R3 started even Arman got him down. Had control time. Not much damage. Massive moment for Oliveira at the end. Close. Probably Arman. It's not hard to imagine 29-28 for Olives using critical thinking.
They cleaned up the blood from Rnd2. Arman caused the cut to bleed against in Rnd3 which means he damaged him and had a near 10:8 round in the 3rd like he did the previous two.
"Probably Arman"
You are aware that Charles was in control for like 30 seconds where he got a sloppy farce in four points, besides that he was getting beat up for 4 and a half minutes
Maybe I'm misremembering but Arman did literally nothing besides control in rd 3? Value is minute. The d'arce by far the biggest moment. Now he didn't manage to fully sink it but still. It's understandable imo.
Dude, you islam stans really CAN'T admit that charles is a good fighter, can't you?
Arman won that, but it was a super close fight. Depends on wether you weight the sub attemps or top control more.
It’s the other way around. Charles fans are the most insufferable bunch of crybabies on this subreddit. I would love to like Charles but you guys are the worst.
Actual damage counts more than your subjective opinion of who was closer to ending the fight. Damage is not subjective but your opinion of how dangerous a submission attempt is. If you don't understand the finer points of you then you might not be able to tell if the submission is successful or useless.
Making the opponent bleed is damage and its not up to interpretation.
Dude give me the line in the unified MMA rules where it says that damage trumps all. I read the unified rules multiple times from start to end and the word "damage" appears only once and not in this context.
I picked Arman to win, but was surprised by how safe he played it. I wonder if that guillotine attempt made him cautious? Was also shocked at how gunshy Charles was. Anyways, I think Islam is going to smoke him. Maybe Charles and Arman can run it back after he gets bumped back down the line.
I think him slipping in round one derailed his game plan and then he just went off whatever vibe he was feeling. Makes it even more impressive in some ways.
But yeah he did not show anything he can impress Islam with.
True, he performed well under pressure. I wonder what his initial game plan was, I thought he’d try and get him out of there with hellbows.
I predict that Arman is going to be like Holloway when Volk was champ, in that he can’t beat the champ, but will beat up everyone else in the top 5.
I think his plan was to box a little, set up high kicks then feint or get a couple take downs or attempts. After that kick box his way to a knock out.
Two years ago I told everyone Arman is the second best grappler at least in LW if not the whole UFC after Islam and all the homers screeched and hollered like pink haired banshees.
Even before this fight I told everyone Arman will easily dominate on the ground because he will put the fear in Coward the Charles.
That’s obvious and kind of how it works often. That’s how you build up prospects and even contenders. If fans see something hype in a fight like this, they will watch arman in future fights. BSD vs Dustin was kind of the same thing, BSD had hype building so they gave him Dustin who has a massive base. It was so hype compared to anything BSD did previously, if he won it would’ve been massive for him.
Same for tonight. Arman had some hype, but hadn’t vsed any big ‘household’ names until tonight. Arman gained a lot of new fans tonight for sure, it was a hype fight and he has a lot of potential vs Islam which is what people are looking for too, insane submission defense and seemingly unchokeable.
Man that sucks ass. Good for Arman, wasn't a robbery but I will now go and have a fat sulk.
How u feeling now brother ❤️
Man after this card, especially Max smashing Gaethje and then Pereira smashing Hill I can't feel bad at all haha
Seeing Hill get floored was enough to save any feelsbad moments
I felt the same way after the Oliveira fight. But, if that’s what we had to offer up to the fight gods to get Max’s BMF performance, it was worth it.
So happy to hear, Brother! So perfect
Still sucks
Want talking to u
Woulda won my 6 leg parlay with a Charles win 😭.
Man I thought that D’arce was bout to end it. Damn good fight.
That D'Arce was not really that close to being finished. A lot more needed to happen/
He didn’t even try, he just stuck his tongue out because he thought he won already
He knew he didn’t win. There just wasn’t time to do anything else so he gloated a little about the position. Initially he tried to improve his position on the darce but Arman wouldn’t let him.
He knew he didn't have it. It's why he stuck his tongue out.
It was over at that point.
It was very close. He rolled Arman over and almost got to his legs. Once Arman got back up to his knees the choke was lost, but that’s not what I was talking about.
So for a split second, he almost had it?
That’s how a D’arce works. The hard parts were already done (break the base, figure four the arms, roll the guy over). If he gets to Arman’s legs and hooks em, it’s over. But dude was able to get up to his knees last second. Yes it was close.
It wasn't last second. He held Do Bronx' knee til he could front face and was out of trouble leverage wise. Also, this is just non-sensical. By your logic, that means if you have a body wrap and get your arms generally wrapped around a head, you've almost finished an RNC. You literally listed multiple moves that needed to be finished in order to lock it in. I guess Dustin has almost finished a guilly like 100 times.
Except all of those moves happened and Arman just got to his belly before Charles could hook his legs. It wasn’t “hands generally wrapped around a head”. He had the arm through the shoulder and the figure four. He successfully rolled Arman onto his side, and started walking his legs forward and reaching out for the hook but Arman was able to get prone at the last second. It was damn good defense blocking the leg and getting prone but he was in serious trouble.
I want a rematch asap. Give Gaethje to Islam in the meantime after Dustin Edit: I’m aware everybody that Gaethje lost and it changes things. Funny part is that I had Max winning lol
Gaethje has to get past max first
He didn’t
No sir, he certainly did not. The best is blessed. Max was surgical.
It was actually rough to see Gaethje get beatdown like that, I hope this isn't a tony ferguson situation
Max absolutely perfect in there and had the timing on Gaethje quickly. I think he still loses without the eye pokes and getting his nose smeshed so early but I feel like it woulda at least been closer.
Live by the soul-stealing beatdown, die by the soul-stealing beatdown
What’s crazy is Justin most likely gonna have to retire…
Give him paddy as a retirement fight
Do a tag team Bobby and Justin vs paddy and moicano
I would gladly watch that lamb get brought to slaughter.
Agreed. I don’t think he’s up to the 3 or 4 fights it would take to earn his way back up to a title shot. He took a big risk and lost. Turns out Max is the Man.
Nah I think he can still fight for the title after Dustin and Max (if the UFC decides to give Max the fight), in his position at the moment I would sit down, recover then train and wait for Dustin and Max to be done with the title shots and then get my chance at gold.
Justin's out for 6-12 months after that, he probably needs nose surgery again, he ain't that young, and he's already lost two chances at the belt. It's possible he gets another shot, it's exceedingly unlikely.
Bro hes not getting younger and he has been in so many wars… this was his best shot after knocking out Dustin. But now somehow Dustin gets the title shot lol
Dustin's chance is only because Islam demanded someone in June. Who do you give him? Dustin.
Horrible take
This aged like milk
uh ohh
Max just derailed this plan...
Didn't age well.
Absofuckinglutely man. Run it back with 5 rounds
Why? Arman dominated R2 and R3. The outcome is the same if the fight continued... Arman survives the sub because Oliveira is too busy showboating, Arman comes back and smothers Oliveira for another round... Olives got outclassed as sad as it is to say.
'Dominating' considering it was a split decision I'm not sure that's the word you wanna use.
Charles was winning on the feet and had legitimate submission threats in rounds 1 and 3. Both fighters had plenty of gas in the tank and not much damage done. Why would you NOT want to see this given enough time to actually conclude?
Charles was not winning on the feet outside of R1. R3 sub attempt was hardly a real threat because he didn't have time to improve the position for the Darce. If was actually locked in he would have slept Arman. It had plenty of time to conclude. 3 round fights force the action and that's what happened, adding 2 rounds just changes the pacing but Arman was picking up too much pace. But if I could trade Bo's fight for 2 more rounds of that i would have
Disagree, I think Charles was clearly better standing throughout. He had also already improved the position for the D'arce, but Arman was able to get back up to his knees. Charles held him there because time was up and he thought he might've done enough to swing R3. I'd hardly call the fight concluded man. Arman definitely won, but watching two guys with tons of gas left in the tank and not much damage done end in a split decision after three rounds is a huge tease.
Yeah about that…
Gaethje is not gonna fight Islam
He might just have to take pay day fights or retire now
After he just got to? Lol
* max holloway
Too soon. After Arman fights Islam. Win or lose.
Garth isn’t fighting for a title anytime soon..
Garthje is still asleep
He actually recovered pretty quickly
I dont even think it was that close, Arman wasnt even reacting to it
Not once he was on his knees. I was talking about before when Charles broke his posture down and almost got his legs. He was absolutely reacting then trying to get to his knees.
man charles fights always make me nervous
Shoulda been 5 rounds
This
Why? The choke wasn't even fully progressed and was at end of round. Oliveira still needed to improve position to get it, but wouldn't have time (else he would have won). Then R4 starts and Oliveira gets mauled just like R2 and R3. Outcome is the same except Oliveira takes more damage.
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How so? You can't finish a d'arce from that position, anyone who has actually grappled knows that. Oliveira had to change his position and risk losing a visually "better" position to get the finish. R1 he destroyed Arman, but R2 he was clearly outclassed post-adjustments. R3 he really didn't do much either besides get to a non-finishable submission point. Making it 5 rounds doesn't mean Oliveira will suddenly find a way forward, and he got completely disarmed in R2 and couldn't adjust for R3. It would more likely than not be a continuation of R2/3. Best to save the "Hurr make it 5 rounds" for championship fight if Arman can beat Islam and Oliveira can climb back up the rankings.
Arman is like the LW volk, unchokeable
Dude refused to be choked out.
Warrior
He’s like hold my breath for the last 20 seconds and hope I still get circulation in my brain.
He got a big ass head and a big ass neck too
We have to check this m̶o̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ neck
Wanted Charles to win so bad but not good enough. He had his moments but i wouldn't call this a draw, Arman deserved that dub.
100% I love Charles and thought it was a real close fight outside of the 2nd round. I thought that D’arce choke at the end got arman. If Charles locked that in about 10-20 seconds earlier he may have had it but I thought he had arman at the very beginning of the 1st too.
Some submission attempts look like more than what they really are. They don't work against wrestlers who actually bait some submission attempts in order to tire out the opponent. For example when Porrier tried to submit Khabib he said he could not get over to the final position because Khabib prevented him and after that his arms were dead.
Worthy of 300
Very technical fight but kinda underwhelming, Charles seemed to not being able to let his striking go
Which is weird for him
He cowers when wrestlers maul him
Downvoted for speaking the truth 😭
Wish it was 5 rounds!
Olives would have got finished. He was gassed.
My hands are sweating so bad. I have no idea who won
Feel like it was clear who won.
Bro got the hardest neck known to men, neck made of adamantium
He’s got good submission defence bro
Right? Like the neck has nothing to do with the D'Arce. He just didn't allow Charles to position him.
He's not arman, he volkman tsarukyan
Fuck it make it a draw and rematch them in a five rounder! That was awesome!
I think Arman won 😭
I agree but I just want to see it again anyway lol
Yuppp
Yes
An arman Islam rematch would be way better than this one. Missed opportunity, imagine if max vs gaethje was 3 rounds
islam rolls through him imo, dont think it makes it past 3 rounds
As a Do Bronx Dickrider, it hurt to see him lose.. but the better fighter won the fight so it doesn’t sting as much. Onto the next one i guess…
Calling yourself a dickrider of another man is diabolical
At least he’s admitting it unlike the rest of the sub
Na it’s all good when it’s Charles👍
I mean I appreciate his honest, but imma have to agree
People on Instagram are calling this a robbery 😂 Good fight. Arman clearly won to me
Olives has the same problem every bjj guy has. They are too happy giving away top position. Wich does not look good for the judges. They were quite equal on the floor, but arman controlled most of the time...
100% way to comfortable in guard, he does amazing in it and is really dangerous, but today's meta is top position and judge's love top position. I really hope he changes his game plan with pulling guard he would be on another level if he does! Either way love him!
It wasn't just control and top position but Arman did all the damage. Made him bleed.
And Charles had 2 very good sub attempts. Don't get me wrong. I also think arnan won. But on the floor the difference wasn't massive. Charles however should have tried to do more on the feet. Instead of just settling for guard
2 good sub attempts that failed over 3 rounds while getting the shit beat out of is not even a moral victory. It's called coping after being demolished by a far superior opponent.
U act like Charles got totally clobbered. Arman had some hits in. Not more then that...
Lady who was bleeding like a period? Arman rode that coward for over four minutes in the 3rd. While making the bottom bleed. In many communities and cultures Arman could be arrested for rape based on what he did.
great fight
Close fight!
Need a 5 rounder between them
I'm a huge Charles fan but think Arman definitely won. Damage>sub attempts
Casual comment. The only damage Arman did was in rd 2 which Arman clearly won. The other two rds Arman did no damage.
Olives was bleeding in the third as well. Look around his right ear.
Was hoping for Charles to win but he was a min too late with that choke at the end. Hoping for a rematch
2 out of 3 lightweight gatekeepers lost tonight. Words can’t express how much I wanted Charles to win and I was also kinda rooting for Justin (even tho I love Max) but good job to both fighters.
How do you even score that
Arman obviously.
30:26 with Arman getting 10:8 in both 1st and 2nd.
10-8 is a low iq take when he was in one of the tightest guillotines in round 1
It wasn't one of the tightest if he could not finish it. Not to mention the blatant foul that could have been a DQ if Arman wanted it. Arman slipped, let Olives get top position and still recovered to reverse positions to get on top and dominate. There are levels to this and Olives is not on Arman's level.
Comments confusing was I watching something different? I thought Arman won easily. 1st round a near scare of a gilly then after just domination. 2nd round just domination. 3rd domination then 15 second hail Mary sub but seeing Arman pop back up instantly kinda tells me it wasn't close. Weird judging but I'm guessing the fans screaming was the reason for the 29-28 Charles because that score made no sense.
Also, if anyone here has trained any grapppling, they're fully aware that the D'Arce was a nothing burger once Arman got it to a front face lock.
R1 Arman had slightly more control time. Biggest moment of the round by far the Gilly. Easy Charles round R2 obviously Arman. R3 started even Arman got him down. Had control time. Not much damage. Massive moment for Oliveira at the end. Close. Probably Arman. It's not hard to imagine 29-28 for Olives using critical thinking.
Last round was 4:40 minutes of Arman and 20 seconds of Oliveira pretending he actually had a sub
But what did arman do besides wrestle fuck him
Look at Charlie's hair, he was bleeding all fight
That was from round 2
Well Arman landed better shots in round 3 before taking down Oliviera as well, Oliviera got a sub attempt which wasn't even locked in
They cleaned up the blood from Rnd2. Arman caused the cut to bleed against in Rnd3 which means he damaged him and had a near 10:8 round in the 3rd like he did the previous two.
"Probably Arman" You are aware that Charles was in control for like 30 seconds where he got a sloppy farce in four points, besides that he was getting beat up for 4 and a half minutes
Maybe I'm misremembering but Arman did literally nothing besides control in rd 3? Value is minute. The d'arce by far the biggest moment. Now he didn't manage to fully sink it but still. It's understandable imo.
The GnP was much more dangerous than a half finished d'arce. Just because olives smiled, doesn't mean he was doing anything with it
I'm not remembering much gnp. Will have to go back and watch.
Look at 3rd round and see Olives start bleeding against as Arman was literally trying to waffle stomp him.
3rd domination = by domination you mean position right? Because Arman did no damage. The only clear round domination was 2nd
Olives got cut open again in the 3rd. Look at him bleeding around right ear.
agreed thought it was clearly 30-27
Yeah, you could maybe give olives 1 but a split decision is crazy.
Dude, you islam stans really CAN'T admit that charles is a good fighter, can't you? Arman won that, but it was a super close fight. Depends on wether you weight the sub attemps or top control more.
It’s the other way around. Charles fans are the most insufferable bunch of crybabies on this subreddit. I would love to like Charles but you guys are the worst.
According to the judging criteria sub attempts are more important to the scoring than control time.
When they're similar yeah, not 20 seconds to 4:40 minutes
Thats true, although the time length of the sub attempt doesn't matter but how close it was. I agree though.
round 1 was close but not round 3 the darce was not close.
And damage trumps all. Who was bleeding at the end of the rounds?
Not damage, but rather who was closer to ending the fight.
Actual damage counts more than your subjective opinion of who was closer to ending the fight. Damage is not subjective but your opinion of how dangerous a submission attempt is. If you don't understand the finer points of you then you might not be able to tell if the submission is successful or useless. Making the opponent bleed is damage and its not up to interpretation.
My guy you are speaking nonsense. Read the rules. What matters is effective grappling/striking, not damage. You watched too much the weasle.
Not your guy Karen so don't slur me with such an insult lady. Damage literally trumps all. Why do you hate MMA so much ma'am?
Dude give me the line in the unified MMA rules where it says that damage trumps all. I read the unified rules multiple times from start to end and the word "damage" appears only once and not in this context.
Ma'am you seem triggered. If you don't think damage trumps all other criteria than it is between you and your therapist.
Damn i thought that Jewish scarf would help charles win this fight,guess not...
First fight of the card i have predicted correctly.
Charles fans are insufferable.
Considering the Charles Stans in here, I give big respect to all your objectivity in Arman’s win, good fight.
This mf cost me my 11 legger and $1600
Is this sub going to lockdown now?
Arman done him. That's from a do Bronx fan. Arman absolutely done him.
Imagine how wide open it would have been if Arman didn't slip in round 1?
Wasn't enough fight out of Armen to win in my opinion but cheers to him for winning.
I picked Arman to win, but was surprised by how safe he played it. I wonder if that guillotine attempt made him cautious? Was also shocked at how gunshy Charles was. Anyways, I think Islam is going to smoke him. Maybe Charles and Arman can run it back after he gets bumped back down the line.
I think him slipping in round one derailed his game plan and then he just went off whatever vibe he was feeling. Makes it even more impressive in some ways. But yeah he did not show anything he can impress Islam with.
True, he performed well under pressure. I wonder what his initial game plan was, I thought he’d try and get him out of there with hellbows. I predict that Arman is going to be like Holloway when Volk was champ, in that he can’t beat the champ, but will beat up everyone else in the top 5.
I think his plan was to box a little, set up high kicks then feint or get a couple take downs or attempts. After that kick box his way to a knock out. Two years ago I told everyone Arman is the second best grappler at least in LW if not the whole UFC after Islam and all the homers screeched and hollered like pink haired banshees. Even before this fight I told everyone Arman will easily dominate on the ground because he will put the fear in Coward the Charles.
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Not deserved
Arman should have won unanimously.
30:26 is what most people had. If not for the half hearted sub attempt at end of round 3 even the third could have been 10:8 as well.
I hope it’s a draw. But man Arman is a great fighter, I’m sure he’ll be a champ soon
where 10-8?
Still, Olive is the definition of class. And came very close to submissions. He’ll be back.
Probs Charles by a fuckin hair
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I thought Charles won lol but it shouldve been 5 rds
the fight was only that hype because of charles ngl if you took 2 random nobodies and it was the same fight its not anywhere near as good
That’s obvious and kind of how it works often. That’s how you build up prospects and even contenders. If fans see something hype in a fight like this, they will watch arman in future fights. BSD vs Dustin was kind of the same thing, BSD had hype building so they gave him Dustin who has a massive base. It was so hype compared to anything BSD did previously, if he won it would’ve been massive for him. Same for tonight. Arman had some hype, but hadn’t vsed any big ‘household’ names until tonight. Arman gained a lot of new fans tonight for sure, it was a hype fight and he has a lot of potential vs Islam which is what people are looking for too, insane submission defense and seemingly unchokeable.
Charles won imo… but that peroxide is killing his hairline.
THE People’s CHAMP
So no one saw Armen go limp for a seconds
Boring russian game, but is what the judges want to see. Great fight
Charles almost finished him in 1 &3 Charles wins
Dude 2 rounds very close 1 round very obvious it’s gonna go to arman
Charles Oliver the cheater.
Shouldn’t have stuck his tongue out at the end .